i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of sony
Or you guys could just return it and get the Z1? Why do people care about the camera which aren't even what the phone is about?
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Or you guys could just return it and get the Z1? Why do people care about the camera which aren't even what the phone is about?
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I don't know.. Last time i used the camera was in september.. and before that when i used my Note i would maybe take 20 photos a year. People who bought the ZU and thought that the camera would be great, didn't do enough research. BUT still, the camera is fantastically bad, and Sony should correct this so it's possible to use it without being shocked every time we use it. It's currently on the same level as my old Game Boy camera. Fine, it's not but it's close.
And about the "petition". Forget about it. It's the least effective thing in the world. Contact them directly and talk to a human being. It works much better, and you'll know that your message has been received. If possible, try to get transfered to the dev section.
When I bought this phone, I knew I was getting a dismal camera. I don't know anyone that bought the phone thinking this was something that they were going to use a lot. It was the screen size...
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hykhleif said:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of sony
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I like where your heads at... however Lord is right. Partitions don't do anything.
- What is it now 700,000 about not getting GTA5 on PC? LOL... I'm sure the 500,000,000 dollars they would lose not releasing it for PC would be worth a smile on 700,000 faces.
email/ messages/ written can be look and moved on.
Voice and calling is more personal and will get more attention. I don't mind the camera for quick snaps. My DSLR will always win in a shoot off..
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When I first got my device, I called my mobile provider to enable 3G connectivity, and had to quote my IMEI number. The guy at the end of the phone didn't have a clue what device it was. He did a google, and almost sh*t himself. How did you get that? I've never seen it before... I want it!..
Suffice to say I had to do it myself.
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When I bought this phone, I knew I was getting a dismal camera. I don't know anyone that bought the phone thinking this was something that they were going to use a lot. It was the screen size...
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Precisely. The camera I knew was average having done my due diligence before purchase. The rest of the phone is by far the best I've ever had for screen size, light weight and battery life among the other features. If you buy phones to take pictures then this isn't meant for you.
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ota screen protector is suckS!!! I just take off my aftermarket one to replace with new one....cleaned my screen and I saw my fingerprint coating coming away !! can you F believe it !!! second device guys...not funny
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ota screen protector is suckS!!! I just take off my aftermarket one to replace with new one....cleaned my screen and I saw my fingerprint coating coming away !! can you F believe it !!! second device guys...not funny
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sorry mate. I did have a chuckle, but only because I've now been 7 days without my Ultra.
Apparently reports are in about removing the OEM protector, and replacing with your own one improves display and colour quality.
But the pain and time to do it is quite intensive. If mine does this, I think I will remove it.
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And about the "petition". Forget about it. It's the least effective thing in the world. Contact them directly and talk to a human being. It works much better, and you'll know that your message has been received. If possible, try to get transfered to the dev section.
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Pal, we aren't getting any Software improvements. Chromatic aberrations shows clearly the use of a very simple and compact.camera module with reduced optical compounds to fit into less-than-six millimeter space (6.4mm less the fit case support) but we didnt get the xzu expecting stunning camera performance, as long as Sony never promised onit. Right? There is much far other cool stuff on the device..
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sorry mate. I did have a chuckle, but only because I've now been 7 days without my Ultra.
Apparently reports are in about removing the OEM protector, and replacing with your own one improves display and colour quality.
But the pain and time to do it is quite intensive. If mine does this, I think I will remove it.
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Dude, the day I HAVE to remove my protector, I'll... burn something down.. I don't want to spend a weekend removing a stupid protector
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hykhleif said:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask Sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of Sony
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I totally agree that the camera of the XZU is a waste (especially the low light performance) but whilst I sort of knew this from the review and the fact that it has no flash, my reasons for buying this phone are totally different-it is my 1st true Phablet.
Is a Petition needed to bring this to the attention of Sony, I think so considering how much money we have all paid or are paying through our contract deals via our network providers. of all the things annoying is why not put a bloody flash of some sort into this beast, you idiotic product designers in Sony. At least they should have the guts to learn from budget Chinese brands like Oppo, HDC, Zopo and UMI.
I have heard that a kickstarter project by the name of IBlazr is soon to launch an 4X Led embedded external flash unit for Mobile Phones and I will get this when it is released but why should we rely on external accessories to complete a faulty design.
To help you all make the best of your camera app, I strongly urge everyone to download the leaked Camera app of the Nexus 5/Android Kitkat 4.4, I installed this and I see that it makes a real difference. Hope the mods will customize it for better usability on the XZU as when I use it the controls of the camera appear to be partially hidden behind the Navigation Buttons of the XZU, whilst this is annoying, the app is very useful and can be used as the daily camera app replacement and to those that want to praise all other replacement apps, I tried all and if you want near stock experience, this is currently our best hope.
Here is the link;
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g3i3i9skdh8s6xl/GoogleCamera.apk
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To those that will complain that I should buy an Ipants or switch to another phone, don't waste your breath, I like my phone and I want it to be better.
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Dude, the day I HAVE to remove my protector, I'll... burn something down.. I don't want to spend a weekend removing a stupid protector
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guys please lets not start creating a false xperia z ultra fan boy base like iPhone fan boys that cheer anything apple does even if its crap.
Anyone who does not agree on a petition or find a better way to solve this, or at least find a way to get us the knowledge if its hardware or software issue, then please get out of this thread. This thread is for creating a petition to voice our voices loud to sony to solve this problem if it is a software issue, if its hardware related then we must learn how to cope with this crap camera
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I totally agree that the camera of the XZU is a waste (especially the low light performance) but whilst I sort of knew this from the review and the fact that it has no flash, my reasons for buying this phone are totally different-it is my 1st true Phablet.
Is a Petition needed to bring this to the attention of Sony, I think so considering how much money we have all paid or are paying through our contract deals via our network providers. of all the things annoying is why not put a bloody flash of some sort into this beast, you idiotic product designers in Sony. At least they should have the guts to learn from budget Chinese brands like Oppo, HDC, Zopo and UMI.
I have heard that a kickstarter project by the name of IBlazr is soon to launch an 4X Led embedded external flash unit for Mobile Phones and I will get this when it is released but why should we rely on external accessories to complete a faulty design.
To help you all make the best of your camera app, I strongly urge everyone to download the leaked Camera app of the Nexus 5/Android Kitkat 4.4, I installed this and I see that it makes a real difference. Hope the mods will customize it for better usability on the XZU as when I use it the controls of the camera appear to be partially hidden behind the Navigation Buttons of the XZU, whilst this is annoying, the app is very useful and can be used as the daily camera app replacement and to those that want to praise all other replacement apps, I tried all and if you want near stock experience, this is currently our best hope.
Here is the link;
To those that will complain that I should buy an Ipants or switch to another phone, don't waste your breath, I like my phone and I want it to be better.
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better stick with the stock 4.3 camera, same quality but can do photosphere ( 4.4 crash when combine photosphere)
Its a hardware issue. Period.
3rd party app helps but marginal. If camera is really a big issue, I would suggest getting a Z1 or wait out for XZU2.
The XZU is marketed as having a good camera.
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Stunning shots in any light — 8 MP camera with Exmor RS™ for mobile
The 8 megapixel camera is built with the same modules as leading Sony cameras. Exmor RS™ for mobile is an evolution of our Sony image sensor technology, with a next-generation BSI light sensor. By adopting the technology of luminance and colour noise reduction, we’ve created a camera that snaps highly detailed shots with low noise – even in challenging lighting conditions. You’re now also able to reproduce objects in more vivid colours and capture night images and faces in stunning clarity.
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source: sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z-ultra/features/#camera
I bought this XZU because I thought that aside from it being big and fast, it has a good "stunning" camera. The image quality is crap!
Sony should resolve the camera issue, otherwise, it is DECEPTIVE advertising.
hykhleif said:
guys please lets not start creating a false xperia z ultra fan boy base like iPhone fan boys that cheer anything apple does even if its crap.
Anyone who does not agree on a petition or find a better way to solve this, or at least find a way to get us the knowledge if its hardware or software issue, then please get out of this thread. This thread is for creating a petition to voice our voices loud to sony to solve this problem if it is a software issue, if its hardware related then we must learn how to cope with this crap camera
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Have fun with your pointless petition, do you honestly think Sony will do anything when the Z1 is out?
If the camera is that important there is an easy solution.
SweFox said:
Have fun with your pointless petition, do you honestly think Sony will do anything when the Z1 is out?
If the camera is that important there is an easy solution.
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what is with all these people who seem think its ok the camera is this bad? and giving Sony a free pass...
the device is marketed as having an amazing camera yet its about as bad as phones 3-4 years old.
that is not an excuse.
its not average, its crap.
and it needs to be fixed.
cenkaetaya said:
what is with all these people who seem think its ok the camera is this bad? and giving Sony a free pass...
the device is marketed as having an amazing camera yet its about as bad as phones 3-4 years old.
that is not an excuse.
its not average, its crap.
and it needs to be fixed.
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Maybe because those people didn't buy it for the camera because who would? Some people apparently.
Still makes me wonder why people went with Z Ultra if it matters so much?
Yes, the phone is large and nice but come on, use some common sense. If the camera is that important that you need it then the Ultra is clearly not for you? I took some photos, they were watchable.
Have you guys even tried other camera apps? I just tried this and the pictures aren't bad at all :s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415860
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Maybe because those people didn't buy it for the camera because who would? Some people apparently.
Still makes me wonder why people went with Z Ultra if it matters so much?
Yes, the phone is large and nice but come on, use some common sense. If the camera is that important that you need it then the Ultra is clearly not for you? I took some photos, they were watchable.
Have you guys even tried other camera apps? I just tried this and the pictures aren't bad at all :s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415860
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comments like this honestly irritate the hell out of me please leave this thread go to another thread for cheering called cheering sony fan boy thread
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comments like this honestly irritate the hell out of me please leave this thread go to another thread for cheering called cheering sony fan boy thread
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No.
I'm trying to understand but I'm just thinking you're rather pathetic.
I don't even give a crap about the camera, I just think this is interesting.
Soooo, why do you still have your Ultra? Why aren't you complaining about the lack of flash as well? You could always glue one on.
Related
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-hot-first-images-of-the-new-dsc-qx10-and-dsc-qx100-lens-cameras/
OK so most people wouldn't use this but I thought it was an interesting read for those into sony devices
What an overkill solution. It's actually a complete camera, and sony took the display and controls out, and charge you more for... less :laugh: :laugh:
But it looks pretty
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-hot-first-images-of-the-new-dsc-qx10-and-dsc-qx100-lens-cameras/
OK so most people wouldn't use this but I thought it was an interesting read for those into sony devices
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Thats a wicked solution, thanks for the post
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I plan on getting it when it's available, but I read it won't be out until sometime in 2014. Something else I put on order is the iblazr since the phone doesn't have flash.
http://iblazr.com/
I hope with the Sony lens camera and the iBlazr that some app like Camera Zoom FX would eventually support both devices to work together.
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I plan on getting it when it's available, but I read it won't be out until sometime in 2014. Something else I put on order is the iblazr since the phone doesn't have flash.
http://iblazr.com/
I hope with the Sony lens camera and the iBlazr that some app like Camera Zoom FX would eventually support both devices to work together.
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Great as these options are I have to be honest If I was going to spend the cash on a lens/flash like that I would probably just buy a point and shoot.
I just know if I had to carry anything in addition to the handset it wouldn't get used, or it would get misplaced.
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Something else I put on order is the iblazr since the phone doesn't have flash.
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Great idea but the thing which stopped me from getting one was that it would only be compatible with a limited number of camera apps. iblazr's and a handful of other no names. Full featured ones which make the most out of the xzu's hardware like the default sony one, FX camera etc aren't supported, so there really isn't much point to it
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Great as these options are I have to be honest If I was going to spend the cash on a lens/flash like that I would probably just buy a point and shoot.
I just know if I had to carry anything in addition to the handset it wouldn't get used, or it would get misplaced.
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I agree somewhat, but this lens will take better quality pictures than any point n shoot out there right now. This might change by the time the lens comes out which may sway me the other direction depending on price.
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liqn7 said:
Great idea but the thing which stopped me from getting one was that it would only be compatible with a limited number of camera apps. iblazr's and a handful of other no names. Full featured ones which make the most out of the xzu's hardware like the default sony one, FX camera etc aren't supported, so there really isn't much point to it
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Currently yes it will only be supported by a few apps, but I can guarantee that if this accessory takes off that app publishers will support it in their apps. Plus I read somewhere that iBlazr will offers source code for app publishers. Even if publishers don't support it, it will still be a convenient device for the XZU because there is no flash and I'm sure when you take pictures in dark settings you will wish you had it on hand. Just my opinion.
So I got my G2 today, and this is my impression:
I've heard a lot about this device. A LOT. And it made me desire it so bad. But I'm really disappointed.
1. With the speakers: they're bad. So bad. My previous device was HTC One, and switching from One to G2's speakers.. is a big downfall.
2. With the camera: it's bad. The quality is bad. On paper it's better than the One's but the quality of the picture is just not good. Looks too blurry and noisy altogether.
3. With the expectations: on paper the G2 is twice better the One [specs-wise], but I can't notice any difference using it.
4. And most of all - with the developers: the G2's UI is simply screaming "Root me! Flash another rom!". And I did. But no rom is good. I've tried 6 of them, one by one. First off, they're full of bugs, they're incomplete. Secondly, they fail to give you the Nexus 5 experience. It feels like you're using only the skin, a launcher, not a clean android rom. The developers are just not as good as the One's developers. The roms I had with the One were so good. The Nexus 5 experience was so good, I could feel I was using a Google Edition phone. No bugs, no imitations.
I'm already missing my One......
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So I got my G2 today, and this is my impression:
I've heard a lot about this device. A LOT. And it made me desire it so bad. But I'm really disappointed.
1. With the speakers: they're bad. So bad. My previous device was HTC One, and switching from One to G2's speakers.. is a big downfall.
2. With the camera: it's bad. The quality is bad. On paper it's better than the One's but the quality of the picture is just not good. Looks too blurry and noisy altogether.
3. With the expectations: on paper the G2 is twice better the One [specs-wise], but I can't notice any difference using it.
4. And most of all - with the developers: the G2's UI is simply screaming "Root me! Flash another rom!". And I did. But no rom is good. I've tried 6 of them, one by one. First off, they're full of bugs, they're incomplete. Secondly, they fail to give you the Nexus 5 experience. It feels like you're using only the skin, a launcher, not a clean android rom. The developers are just not as good as the One's developers. The roms I had with the One were so good. The Nexus 5 experience was so good, I could feel I was using a Google Edition phone. No bugs, no imitations.
I'm already missing my One......
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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I know it sounds bad. My apologies if I offended someone.
Just had to unload my thoughts.
Not to be argumentative...but I find posts like these absolutely bewildering. You had a Nexus 5, but got the G2. You like the HTC One, but turned it in and got the G2....and it sounds like you got the G2 based on what you saw in writing, rather than having tried it out -- at least not long enough to realize you don't like the speakers, camera, stock GUI, etc. I hope that, in making a purchase like this, effectively "blind", that you still have an option to return the phone -- that's the only option I can think of that would make an impulsive uninformed purchase reasonable, unless you have money to burn.
There must have been hundreds of posts describing the UI in detail, and dozens of articles discussing the pros and cons of the stock UI vs vanilla KitKat and the various ROMs that are available, along with many, many photos of the screens. Also - many, many articles that discuss and contrast HTC One speakers with those on the G2, and on many other phones. After 4 or 5 months on the market, there are SO many discussions pro and con on this phone that pretty much none of these topics should come as a surprise -- the only variable would be your personal reaction, and how your opinion comes down each topic. There are numerous people who absolutely love the G2, a number who don't like it, and many with mixed feelings. But it seems that virtually every major topic, including the ones you've described, have been fleshed out in great detail here and on another dozen or two sites. With the topics and points of contention - and strong personal opinion - well known, wouldn't it have made sense to explore these "live" up front, before making the purchase?
Again - I don't mean to be contentious, I'm just genuinely bewildered. Also - in the interest of full disclosure - I've been using cell phones for about 22 years and have owned dozens -- all different manufacturers, OS's, ROMs, carriers, etc. I was a flashaholic with my last few phones, most notably with my GNex (flashing ROM's many times a week at the end). For my purposes, to my taste, and based on a combination of criteria, this is the best phone I've owned or used, period. But, after reading about it in depth, I went to a couple of stores that had live test models, and spent enough time with a G2 to have an excellent idea of my reaction to each item that was a question for me. By the time I bought it, I knew I liked it, and that the issues some people complained about didn't bother me. In the time since I brought it home, I've come to appreciate it even more.
No doubt some will like it and some won't. It's great that we have choices. I simply don't understand knowing that polarizing issues such as the ones you describe exist, making a purchase without checking these out for yourself, and then coming online to complain about them after the purchase has been made. Am I missing something?
No intention of picking a fight or offending -- I simply don't understand this scenario.
A lesson in life for you.
1. Never read and listen things in one way. People like it, they praise it and say a lot of good things about it. Do read the negative side of it.
2. Do not just read on the web, go to store and spend 30' or 1hrs to really try it out before commit.
3. Do expect less, there is nothing perfect in this world, this one is good, don't expect the other as good as it. Latest doesn't mean greatest.
4. Seek your happiness elsewhere. If you don't like a "thing", just divorce it and marry the next one with care.
You heard a lot. A LOT about the G2 and still bought it? Thats braindead.
You dont feel a difference between the HTC One and G2? I'm having both Phones and the HTC feels a lot worse than the G2, performancewise.
Sound is worse than the htc? Of course, the one is having one of the best (stereo) speakers... lol ... you guy such a bad troll.
How do you not get the Nexus experience with CM11? Troll. This phone flies with cyanogenmod.
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Not to be argumentative...but I find posts like these absolutely bewildering. You had a Nexus 5, but got the G2. You like the HTC One, but turned it in and got the G2....and it sounds like you got the G2 based on what you saw in writing, rather than having tried it out -- at least not long enough to realize you don't like the speakers, camera, stock GUI, etc. I hope that, in making a purchase like this, effectively "blind", that you still have an option to return the phone -- that's the only option I can think of that would make an impulsive uninformed purchase reasonable, unless you have money to burn.
There must have been hundreds of posts describing the UI in detail, and dozens of articles discussing the pros and cons of the stock UI vs vanilla KitKat and the various ROMs that are available, along with many, many photos of the screens. Also - many, many articles that discuss and contrast HTC One speakers with those on the G2, and on many other phones. After 4 or 5 months on the market, there are SO many discussions pro and con on this phone that pretty much none of these topics should come as a surprise -- the only variable would be your personal reaction, and how your opinion comes down each topic. There are numerous people who absolutely love the G2, a number who don't like it, and many with mixed feelings. But it seems that virtually every major topic, including the ones you've described, have been fleshed out in great detail here and on another dozen or two sites. With the topics and points of contention - and strong personal opinion - well known, wouldn't it have made sense to explore these "live" up front, before making the purchase?
Again - I don't mean to be contentious, I'm just genuinely bewildered. Also - in the interest of full disclosure - I've been using cell phones for about 22 years and have owned dozens -- all different manufacturers, OS's, ROMs, carriers, etc. I was a flashaholic with my last few phones, most notably with my GNex (flashing ROM's many times a week at the end). For my purposes, to my taste, and based on a combination of criteria, this is the best phone I've owned or used, period. But, after reading about it in depth, I went to a couple of stores that had live test models, and spent enough time with a G2 to have an excellent idea of my reaction to each item that was a question for me. By the time I bought it, I knew I liked it, and that the issues some people complained about didn't bother me. In the time since I brought it home, I've come to appreciate it even more.
No doubt some will like it and some won't. It's great that we have choices. I simply don't understand knowing that polarizing issues such as the ones you describe exist, making a purchase without checking these out for yourself, and then coming online to complain about them after the purchase has been made. Am I missing something?
No intention of picking a fight or offending -- I simply don't understand this scenario.
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I agree with most of what you said, but you're also wrong; I've read lots, watched lots of videos, watched lots of screenshots of roms and stuff, read about pros and cons, read comparisons to the HTC ONE.
The only thing I couldn't do is try it live. I don't know where you live, based on your English I'll guess US, but in my country there's no place we can try devices, only iPhone and Galaxy because it's mainstream. Higher quality like HTC, LG, Nexus and stuff, are not offered by stores to try. Only people who are familiar with quality and brands buy these phones here, and we buy new phones based on what we're told.
I've bought the G2 for two reasons: battery and money. I'm short on money so I sold my One for cash, and bought the G2 in credit so I have some cash for a while. As for the horrible UI, I knew what I was getting into, but I thought that I could replace it with Google Edition roms like I did with the One when I didn't like the Sense, but as I mentioned, the developers are not as good and the roms they offer are bad compared to the roms of the One, so now I'm stuck with the stock GUI.
you're right in everything pretty much in regards to speakers/camera.
speaker: it sucks because it's tinny, but what's worse is LG uses their own limiter/compressor on it, which makes everything sound awful. i assume they did this so you could get maximum volume without clipping. with the help of xdabebb, i've disabled their equalizer/compressor/limiter and it sounds more natural now, but obviously volume is a bit lower because it's not amplified as high.
camera: yeah, it sucks. there's nothing more to say. i've never been this disappointed with a phone camera until now. the quality is just bad.
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How do you not get the Nexus experience with CM11? Troll. This phone flies with cyanogenmod.
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I'm not a troll.
I've used ARHD GE with my One, it felt like Nexus.
But with Paranoid and CM11, they changed something. It's not the same. There are bugs in the gallery, in the home screen you can only scroll to the right and not to the left and some other minor things, and it feels like a skin and not like a real stock clean android rom, like it with with ARHD GE on my One.
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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Paying anybody? So if your gonna spend time to 'develop' and release a piece of crap worthless piece of software because you want attention and internet fame...make sure the fckin thing works first...thats a new thought, huh?
Of course the trolls come out as soon as anyone displays the SLIGHTEST hint of dissatisfaction.....you internet guys should really grow up...
coming from the note 2 , G2 is a beast
It's the best smartphone I've ever used but sadly yes the speakers disappoints me
however i could never be happier with a smartphone
Still saying the devs are bad? The aosp roms have the same issues. Common among them is the freezing. Blame kernel source and drivers not the devs.
I feel that CM is amazing on the G2, especially for not have a designated dev for our device. The freezes aren't that big of a deal to me, but I can see how that might be very annoying to other people. This is by far the best phone I've had especially comparing to my previous HTC devices - original HTC G1, HTC One x. and HTC One. :good:
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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I don't think this is a good knee-jerk reaction to have. The devs aren't babies and I'm sure they can handle someone not thinking their work is up to par with another dev community. That said, as a prospective G2 owner who plans to root + ROM, it's definitely valuable to hear if things aren't as good as they seem to be. Sure I'm not going to base my entire decision off one guy's opinion, but I'll be more aware of these issues and it'll do nothing other than help me make an informed decision.
And to be honest, looking through a lot of the ROMs, he does seem to be right. I believe it when they say many problems will go away with the kernel source, but right now that's the state of things.
Well I don't usually chime in on threads like these but... anyway...
Ok I have had the HTC One (my son has it now)... Still have the S4...
I have a Sprint G2 on the latest ZVA update. Rooted with Xposed Tweaks.
I have to say that I'm not happy with the speakers but there are some mods out there that help this considerably. Your point on this is somewhat true.
On the Camera however... You are waaaaaaaaaay off! I have personally went out and compared pics between old HTC One pics, Current S4 pictures and G2 pics. There is no comparison the G2 pics are so much better and not just by a little its significant. I couldn't believe how much better.
I loved the HTC One but the reason I got rid of it was the Camera. The pics were just bad. Look at all of the reviews on Cameras... The G2 is always up there so I'm not just dreaming this up. Here is one of the better more comparison based Reviews...
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-Comparison-iPhone-5s-vs-LG-G2-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Galaxy-S4-HTC-One-Motorola-Moto-X-DROID-Ultra_id3447
I have played around with the stock camera app and really like it and I also have used the ABetter Camera app and it's really good.
So what you're stating seems to be one of two things... You're just trolling... or you have a defective phone and need to try another one.
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I know it sounds bad. My apologies if I offended someone.
Just had to unload my thoughts.
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Go ahead and unload your thoughts in the toilet not here. I'm sure you do that every day
I don't get it. I love the G2 stock ROM. <shrug>
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I don't get it. I love the G2 stock ROM. <shrug>
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Exactly... most of the phones that I have used lately the best setups are the Stock Rooted Roms with Xposed tweaks. I really feel that is the reason for less Custom Rom development. Really no need. Get rooted, use exposed, tweak and customize it how you like.
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Well I don't usually chime in on threads like these but... anyway...
Ok I have had the HTC One (my son has it now)... Still have the S4...
I have a Sprint G2 on the latest ZVA update. Rooted with Xposed Tweaks.
I have to say that I'm not happy with the speakers but there are some mods out there that help this considerably. Your point on this is somewhat true.
On the Camera however... You are waaaaaaaaaay off! I have personally went out and compared pics between old HTC One pics, Current S4 pictures and G2 pics. There is no comparison the G2 pics are so much better and not just by a little its significant. I couldn't believe how much better.
I loved the HTC One but the reason I got rid of it was the Camera. The pics were just bad. Look at all of the reviews on Cameras... The G2 is always up there so I'm not just dreaming this up. Here is one of the better more comparison based Reviews...
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-Comparison-iPhone-5s-vs-LG-G2-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Galaxy-S4-HTC-One-Motorola-Moto-X-DROID-Ultra_id3447
I have played around with the stock camera app and really like it and I also have used the ABetter Camera app and it's really good.
So what you're stating seems to be one of two things... You're just trolling... or you have a defective phone and need to try another one.
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I used to think that too.. I've watched numerous still and video comparison videos, watches numerous samples, and I used to think that the G2's camera is the best out there.. but then I got it, started taking pics and videos, and it wasn't like what I've seen online at all.. Moreover, my brother's friend has G2 as well, checked his pics and videos, and it was the same - bad quality pics and videos.
Hi, I've decided to cancel my order of the OnePlus X, but the order state is already: 'processing'. OnePlus spokeperson told me that i can refuse the package when it ships to me and they will refund me the money.
My question is, will they refund the WHOLE cost (Phone+shipement) or just the cost of the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Why didn't you ask this to them? :3
I did, but they respond at best once a day(I know they have a lot of customers at the moments, so I'm okay with it). I'm asking here, maybe someone had a similar problem.
I'm in the same boat. I opened also a PayPal dispute as they advised. I'm also not sure the express shipping costs will be refunded. Please keep this thread updated with your and/or others people experiences.
Pretty much sure they won't refund shipping cost, they'll probably also charge you for return shipping.
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Pretty much sure they won't refund shipping cost, they'll probably also charge you for return shipping.
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Sounds fair to me. They shipped it in good faith that they had a legitimate order.
Yeah i agree with @CafeKampuchina
Why buy a phone if you won't want it?? Such a stupid thing to do.
I bought the phone with an invite since it was going to expire in a few hours, but the next day i saw how unfinished this product is (software/AA cpu/camera/sd problems etc adn how I could have bought something better for this price) so I've submitted a ticket to cancel my order while it was still at "pending shipment".
//NOTE it was still at: Pending shipment, which means they should have just cancel the order and refund me the money as it states here:
"You can cancel your order before it ships by submitting a ticket. Please make sure to choose Cancellation as the issue!
However, once your order status has been changed to “Processing”, your package will be on its way to the address that you provided. In this case, you may refuse the parcel and send us a cancellation request saying you've done so. We'll issue you a full refund when we confirm the package has been returned to our warehouse"
I have submitted the ticket at 11:00PM, however the guy have responded to my ticket at 4:00AM, and it changed to "processing" at ~2:00/3:00AM. To be honest I dont see this as my fault, but I've not heard from him since and the phone is on its way to my house.
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@Qbsti
You should sell it unopened as soon as it arrives.. This phone has a lot of demand so no harm, and you will make someone very happy..!
I agree with the above, just sell it.
Oh and next time don't believe every person who's complaining about issues, because some people are compulsive moaners.
I for one an totally happy with my OPX, and I have had it for a week now. Most of those issues you mention are down to software an OP team are already working on a fix.
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@Qbsti
You should sell it unopened as soon as it arrives.. This phone has a lot of demand so no harm, and you will make someone very happy..!
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In Poland there is little to none demand for the phone. On our "ebay", Allegro.pl you can find many offers, but no one is buying.
I guess I'm stuck with this phone at least untill the next nexus with sd820.
Jackshot - I'm kind of worried about the camera and low audio quality /w headphones. I'm long past being a mobile gamer
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In Poland there is little to none demand for the phone. On our "ebay", Allegro.pl you can find many offers, but no one is buying.
I guess I'm stuck with this phone at least untill the next nexus with sd820.
Jackshot - I'm kind of worried about the camera and low audio quality /w headphones. I'm long past being a mobile gamer
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Who told you that the audio is bad with headphones?
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Who told you that the audio is bad with headphones?
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OnePlus forums, gsmarena review (http://www.gsmarena.com/one_plus_x-review-1337p6.php).
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OnePlus forums, gsmarena review (http://www.gsmarena.com/one_plus_x-review-1337p6.php).
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All the threads on OP forums are praising this device. No one has said that audio is bad, and neither have I. I've actually listened via earphones for about 2-3 hours this week and it sounds perfectly fine to me.
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All the threads on OP forums are praising this device. No one has said that audio is bad, and neither have I. I've actually listened via earphones for about 2-3 hours this week and it sounds perfectly fine to me.
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Well Im coming from N4 which had pretty bad audio quality (bad speaker, subpar headphone quality, terrible call quality) so maybe it will not bother me that much.
Also the thing I noticed about people, especially in India, when they are hyped about a device they prise everything about it without noticing any shortcomings.
Anyway, if I have to lose 20% if the price in the process of returning the phone then I'm going to keep it.
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Well Im coming from N4 which had pretty bad audio quality (bad speaker, subpar headphone quality, terrible call quality) so maybe it will not bother me that much.
Also the thing I noticed about people, especially in India, when they are hyped about a device they prise everything about it without noticing any shortcomings.
Anyway, if I have to lose 20% if the price in the process of returning the phone then I'm going to keep it.
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Yeah I had a nexus 4 as well mate, which my gf now owns. I used to listen to it via headphones, it didint sound too bad but then again I wasn't running stock. Speaker was pretty poor tbh, both quality and positioning.
I'm happy with the whole package of the OPX, it has its shortcomings but all of them seem software related. Yes there is only 1 speaker on the OPX but the quality is pretty good and the position is great, and I understand that they had a budget to work with. Which seems even more admirable considering what they have achieved.
Keep the phone. I think many people just keep panicking and overreacting when they find some bugs. You have to remember that as usual people that are satisfied with their purchase tend to forget to write reviews since they're busy playing with their phone and are happy with it, but almost everyone who's not happy is going to write everywhere how crappy this phone is.
I'm pretty sure that you'll like the phone more than you think you will. Also trust in devs. Most of the bugs that you'll find will be gone by the end of the year
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Keep the phone. I think many people just keep panicking and overreacting when they find some bugs. You have to remember that as usual people that are satisfied with their purchase tend to forget to write reviews since they're busy playing with their phone and are happy with it, but almost everyone who's not happy is going to write everywhere how crappy this phone is.
I'm pretty sure that you'll like the phone more than you think you will. Also trust in devs. Most of the bugs that you'll find will be gone by the end of the year
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I'm a long time Paranoid Android user, and most of their team is working for OnePlus at the moment. I belive that they can make this phone fly
i am coming from a nexus4
this phone feels good in hand
performance is very good
camera ist okay although helen said they will release manual mode camera sometime
sound quality is fine. i dont hear any difference to other devices
battery life is good but can be tuned software wise
display is really good
i think most problems this phone has are due to the immature software
the opx is a really good phone for the price point
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Keep the phone. I think many people just keep panicking and overreacting when they find some bugs. You have to remember that as usual people that are satisfied with their purchase tend to forget to write reviews since they're busy playing with their phone and are happy with it, but almost everyone who's not happy is going to write everywhere how crappy this phone is.
I'm pretty sure that you'll like the phone more than you think you will. Also trust in devs. Most of the bugs that you'll find will be gone by the end of the year
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Totally agree, people just love to moan. Especially on the OP forums.
Qbsti said:
I'm a long time Paranoid Android user, and most of their team is working for OnePlus at the moment. I belive that they can make this phone fly
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Yeah the toggle edit in the pull down is so blatantly from PA rom lol
ckret said:
i am coming from a nexus4
this phone feels good in hand
performance is very good
camera ist okay although helen said they will release manual mode camera sometime
sound quality is fine. i dont hear any difference to other devices
battery life is good but can be tuned software wise
display is really good
i think most problems this phone has are due to the immature software
the opx is a really good phone for the price point
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Totally agree.
This is the first device that I've owned the has taken so long with not much sign or interest on the custom development side of things, not even much chatter about it.
Why is there such a lack of interest in the G5? Is it more complicated than other devices or have LG not released the source or something (I'm no developer at all, just a severe flashaholic and am having severe withdrawals since buying this device. Not a single ROM flashed in months lol).
Thanks guys
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Beacuse LG locked all the bootloaders except h850 which is only for some parts of Europe ..Hope that lg will change their minds about this
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The H850 is not the only one with unlocked bootloader. H830 also has unlocked bootloader. Also, i wouldnt go making a lot of demands since moderators are watching. And "Beggers " get the worst out of them (with reason) (just suggesting). Also, since Im not a developer (yet), I decided to hold back and not buy the phone until there is at least 2 builds released. (if another phone dont catch my eye first, which it has already happened, S**t lol) but yeah, also patience is something you will have to endure. There is currently a handful of devs working on CM during their free time. As for now, people will have to use the "Fluence HD" patch if they want to flash something to mod their phones. In addition to that, there are some other developers that claims they have started to built their own roms and are currently testing them in their phones. But there are some files they still missing to compile. ( i have to find the post for each one again)
In conclusion.... yeah, you will definitely have to wait, and begging/requesting/or anything you do with the purpose to make it go faster won't help at all. After all, Developers also have a life, and they are doing this with their free time.
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Very well. This are the links i have been looking for:
Comment by "Nathan Chance (in addition read post 1 and 2 posted in the same comment) ": http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page18
Comment by "greysonofusa" (claiming that he is building a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
Comment by "1619415" (claiming that he want to build his own rom but he need some files yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
I think i saw a couple of others in another threads but you get the ideas. Its not that there is not interest on building roms for the G5, but that there are missing things to copile. But it is better that they take their time building a rom than to release a heavily buggy/unstable rom that might hard brick your device for good. At least that's what i think. (even though i dont currently own the G5 lol)
yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the galaxy s7. And hell, why not htc 10 too lol. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the HTC 10. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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There cannot be a battle between opinions because in the end everybody will choose their own sides. All that i have said is based on experiences, and base of what i have read too, not only in XDA but digging around google which means thousands and thousands of different post on different websites, in addition to video in youtube, and more. So, let me skip the whole stuff to the last part of your last post, Aesthetics is not more important than functionality to me, which is why i'm strongly siding to Moto Z Force more than S7, HTC 10, LG G5 or even the Oneplus 3 (which have proven to be a good phone with some minor exceptions). After all, I always put a cover on my phone anyways, so, the so called "premium quality feeling" that people often are looking for, to me is useless since i use a cover. I use a phone to call, to use its functionality, not to rub its body against my skin to see how nice it feels every 5 seconds/minutes/hours in a given day. But i also like phones which try to be as limitless as possible. Which significantly reduces my list... Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
It will probably be a while yet before we get any usable CM roms, customised stock is great so far. We should get some soon though as I believe some devs like Xpirt are getting the device
Making a rom is not as easy as you might think . But otherwise, the phone is really good and the Stock Rom is perfect. Would like to root without unlocking the bootloader but you can not have everything
Well, i as Dev and ROM Cooker have to say that I'm really sad about the fact that there's almost no Development on the G5.
We have almost all needed source to compile a booting CM13 Build, but no one is creating a Thread for Public Testing. In my Eyes that would help alot...
Custom ROMs based on Stock are another Story. It looks like that no one is able to get a working Updater Script/Meta-inf.
Shouldn't be that hard for a skilled LG Device Dev to make one. But where are all the G2/3/4 Owners? Are they still on a old G Device? No interests on a G5? I dont know! But it's a really sad Story ...
I've found so much nice stuff in the H850 Firmware but some things need to be fixed and I've no clue how. So I can just hope that there comes soon some Development on this Device, which means more Developers and more success with creating ROMs and Modifications.
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development...
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Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development.
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Same here. But right now I like the device with your Fluence HD and the Aosp mod. It runs very well!
Of course I am eagerly waiting for Alucard's kernel (loved his SGS4 kernels!) and AOSP or cm.
But patience is a virtue and I can wait.
Also, as the price of the g5 is dropping I hope that more developers get on board.
I would gladly contribute. Unfortunately, I'm on vzw.
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Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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Youtube is barely another small percentage of internet's population. Doing that would mean only to stick in one side out of millions. And arguing as in "argument " is exactly whwt we do on XDA. It doesnt necessary has to be bad argument. However, an argument is only worth it if you can feel that you have a chance to persuade or proof your point. But neither of us can do. To start looking for all thr comments, post, videos, blogs, etc..... It would be a suicide to do that. That, and that brains can only retain so much before it throws the information to a deeper part of the brain.
I'm lucky enough to be able to test multiple new phones and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed with this phone. The cameras are worse than my LG v40 (with gcam mod of course), it's impossible to type with one hand because you're always touching the curved screen with the side of your hand so nothing actually comes out correctly without having to fix it 10X and Samsung has removed the ability to change basic settings like removing icon borders or change their size. Nothing about this phone is appealing and I LOVE Samsung phones. I've had a Note since the Note 2 (I'm typing this on a note 9) but this phone is just crap. The fingerprint reader is barely passable and bixby (although able to be turned off) is at best an annoyance. Please don't waste your time with this
overpriced paperweight, it's just junk.
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I'm lucky enough to be able to test multiple new phones and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed with this phone. The cameras are worse than my LG v40 (with gcam mod of course), it's impossible to type with one hand because you're always touching the curved screen with the side of your hand so nothing actually comes out correctly without having to fix it 10X and Samsung has removed the ability to change basic settings like removing icon borders or change their size. Nothing about this phone is appealing and I LOVE Samsung phones. I've had a Note since the Note 2 (I'm typing this on a note 9) but this phone is just crap. The fingerprint reader is barely passable and bixby (although able to be turned off) is at best an annoyance. Please don't waste your time with this
overpriced paperweight, it's just junk.
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Don´t buy it if you don´t like it, but I wouldn´t go as far as to call a Samsung Galaxy stinks, maybe an iPhone yeah but never a Samsung. :angel:
the smell is pretty good if u ask me, duno why ur stinks
definitely overpriced overhyped overrated. i read about annoyances, problems, design flaws. too many for such an expensive device. i wanted s9 for size. when i saw 10e even smaller with same screen size i bought it. expected more. no curved edges, can type, no problems. i didn't pay full retail price so it's barely acceptable for me. my next phone will be sd6xx-7xx mid range. no need to waste money on so much useless bs and samsung name.
Aluyi said:
Don´t buy it if you don´t like it, but I wouldn´t go as far as to call a Samsung Galaxy stinks, maybe an iPhone yeah but never a Samsung. :angel:
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This phone reminds me of the s5. Another Samsung miss.
destz0r said:
the smell is pretty good if u ask me, duno why ur stinks
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Eventually we get used to a certain smell...
JarkMackson said:
This phone reminds me of the s5. Another Samsung miss.
Eventually we get used to a certain smell...
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I'm sure everyone has an opinion, but I'll bet yours isn't a majority opinion of the phone. So, it's not up to your high standards, I'm sure we'll live and somehow make do with it until something comes along that you'll approve for us. Yours is an opinion and nothing more, to be taken with a grain of salt.
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I'm sure everyone has an opinion, but I'll bet yours isn't a majority opinion of the phone. So, it's not up to your high standards, I'm sure we'll live and somehow make do with it until something comes along that you'll approve for us. Yours is an opinion and nothing more, to be taken with a grain of salt.
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As is yours.
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I'm lucky enough to be able to test multiple new phones and I have to say I'm extremely disappointed with this phone. The cameras are worse than my LG v40 (with gcam mod of course), it's impossible to type with one hand because you're always touching the curved screen with the side of your hand so nothing actually comes out correctly without having to fix it 10X and Samsung has removed the ability to change basic settings like removing icon borders or change their size. Nothing about this phone is appealing and I LOVE Samsung phones. I've had a Note since the Note 2 (I'm typing this on a note 9) but this phone is just crap. The fingerprint reader is barely passable and bixby (although able to be turned off) is at best an annoyance. Please don't waste your time with this
overpriced paperweight, it's just junk.
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Nothing about this statement or whatever this actually is, wouldn't even call it an opinion.
Your just stating user specific issues, and ok your entitled to express, but in doing so be more elaborate.
The S10+ has
Snapdragon 855/Exynos 9820
8/128gb Ram or 8/512 or 12/1tb
IP 68
Expandable memory
Great camera's
Headphone jack
Best display in class
To call this Junk is well bold but rather foolish, but I guess your just fishing for responses.
Now comparisons yes this costs say to a OnePlus 6T but this device has everything that that doesn't also.
Your saying the Ultrasonic fingerprint is barely usable, well many said that about the optical and well they were full of it as I never had an issue, as for the Ultrasonic i haven't received mine yet so I'll reserve judgement.
Anyway this is just fishing.
Return your junk and get something else to your liking.....it's that simple
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As is yours.
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I withdraw my remark, yours isn't an opinion, it's a rant, reminiscent of a 10 year old. I'm through here.
Tel864 said:
I withdraw my remark, yours isn't an opinion, it's a rant, reminiscent of a 10 year old. I'm through here.
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Sweetheart don't get bent because I felt like expressing my opinion, the same way you just expressed yours in response.
Here we are again with a long thread of "mine is bigger than yours" but "mine works better than yours" even if "mine and yours give us pleasure in our respective personal lives" ...
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Here we are again with a long thread of "mine is bigger than yours" but "mine works better than yours" even if "mine and yours give us pleasure in our respective personal lives" ...
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Fair point.
I have my S10 since Friday, and for me it is a good phone. Okay, at first time I have also sometimes problems with the touch screen, but I think it's only a thing of time. The finger reader also, I loved the finger scanner on the s7, when I buy the s8 I had at first time the New position of the scanner, but now the handling after two years are great for me. I think the same is on the s10, give it some time and then the handling would easyer.
But I missing also some features from my other Samsung phones, like the led notification or the automatic unvisebelle navigation buttons, I hope Samsung bring some updates.
The best is when I can install root, then it is really my phone and the Good time is beginning. and when it's not your phone, then it is also okay.
*sorry for my english*
Each to their own
Mevlike many think it's the best phone on the market
Overrated and overpriced junk is what iPhones are
i just got my S10+ after an iphone X ,
first of all it is the best samsung i ever used till now coming from
S1 - S2 - S3 - Note 3 - iphone 6 plus - Note 5 - S7Edge - Mate 9 - Mate 10Pro - Iphone X
and the S10+ frankly is miles ahead of the Iphone X and i was not expecting that to be honest
the only point i can agree with the OP is that the screen edges make it hard to use it in one hand , but no problem for me as the screen is fantastic
Yeah, I'll admit the fingerprint sensor isn't as accurate as the capacitive sensors from before, but we've already seen an improvement with the latest firmware and I have confidence that it'll get even better. I think the biggest thing though is that it's ¥different "and it'll take a bit of getting used to how it works.
As for the cameras, it's not really a fair comparison to use the GCam camera app to compare. Yes, it uses Google's image processing, it doesn't take advantage of Samsung's specific features (variable aperture, for example). I'm also not sure if it supports all three cameras on the S10 - it's a mod after all, and may need to be updated.
That said, the beauty of Android is choice. What works for one person may not work for another. I absolutely despise LG's skin, and they're even worse than Samsung when it comes to updates.
Is there a such thing as a bad phone, any more? I don't think so... The new iPhones are great phones, even if they lack the bells and whistles of Android... As far as hardware goes, top notch. And so long as you are cool working within the box that Apple built, they are solid. It's only when you want to tinker and fiddle with them and do fun, but for the most part unnecessary things with them, that they fall short...
The S10+ seems solid so far. Yeah, there is some bloat... big deal... Disable it or uninstall it and call it a day... if you don't like Bixby, turn it off and remap the button. If you don't like the layout of OneUI, install a launcher. You can still do pretty much all the things you need or want, without root these days. Unless you are completely anal retentive and just have to change some inane thing to feel extra geeky and brag to your geeky friends how you have the coolest battery icon or DPI setting, it just doesn't matter. It's a PHONE. You make calls on it, check your email, catch a Netflix show and maybe play a game. It's not a way of life, it's an appliance, that you will likely get bored of and replace in the next 6-12 months anyway... Do you obsess the same way about your electric toothbrush or your microwave or other appliances? Probably not...
If you keep this all in perspective, pretty much any phone will do. I have used Samsung, HTC, OnePlus, Apple, Moto, LG, etc... In years past, there were some lemons... but today it is hard to find a BAD phone, at least in the flagship section... None of them are perfect, but they are all quite good.
I just laugh when I see people trying so hard to nit-pick some obscure inane thing, trying to pretend that it matters or that the average person gives a crap...
"You can't uninstall the GoT bloatware game, I need those 30mb of storage back!"...
No you don't. It's like 0.1% of your storage space, disable it and shut up. It's not hurting you. LOL
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Is there a such thing as a bad phone, any more? I don't think so... The new iPhones are great phones, even if they lack the bells and whistles of Android... As far as hardware goes, top notch. And so long as you are cool working within the box that Apple built, they are solid. It's only when you want to tinker and fiddle with them and do fun, but for the most part unnecessary things with them, that they fall short...
The S10+ seems solid so far. Yeah, there is some bloat... big deal... Disable it or uninstall it and call it a day... if you don't like Bixby, turn it off and remap the button. If you don't like the layout of OneUI, install a launcher. You can still do pretty much all the things you need or want, without root these days. Unless you are completely anal retentive and just have to change some inane thing to feel extra geeky and brag to your geeky friends how you have the coolest battery icon or DPI setting, it just doesn't matter. It's a PHONE. You make calls on it, check your email, catch a Netflix show and maybe play a game. It's not a way of life, it's an appliance, that you will likely get bored of and replace in the next 6-12 months anyway... Do you obsess the same way about your electric toothbrush or your microwave or other appliances? Probably not...
If you keep this all in perspective, pretty much any phone will do. I have used Samsung, HTC, OnePlus, Apple, Moto, LG, etc... In years past, there were some lemons... but today it is hard to find a BAD phone, at least in the flagship section... None of them are perfect, but they are all quite good.
I just laugh when I see people trying so hard to nit-pick some obscure inane thing, trying to pretend that it matters or that the average person gives a crap...
"You can't uninstall the GoT bloatware game, I need those 30mb of storage back!"...
No you don't. It's like 0.1% of your storage space, disable it and shut up. It's not hurting you. LOL
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Well that was a thought out reply......
But agreed most phones (flagships) offer up more that we shall ever need....
Yeah, I mean these are temporary appliances, nothing more.
I guess just blanketing the phone as not being good is a bit harsh, I was excited for this phone only to be so disappointed within the first 10 minutes. I feel like Samsung really messed this one up and I've seriously loved their phones for almost a decade. Just the inability to type in Gboard without the edges messing everything up (not sure why it's so bad with this phone, it was never an issue for me before) makes this one a lemon in my eyes. I'm not going to pull the "I'm never buying Samsung again" but they just can't ever seem to take a step forward without taking one back. I feel like this isn't the phone that's worth the sticker price.