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Hey everyone,
Just got the note 3 today and it's pretty dope!!!! I did not take the OTA update to kk 4.4.2, which is what I assume it wants to do. I'm on 4.3 with the MI5 baseband. Is there Knox on this bootloader that I have to worry about? Is it easier rooting with what I have or easier on 4.4.2? Thanks in advance for any advice
Either one you can auto root with Chainfires method which trips knox, you can also root with Kingo which doesn't trip knox. But as soon as you flash a recovery it will. Congrats on the new phone.
mta1981 said:
Hey everyone,
Just got the note 3 today and it's pretty dope!!!! I did not take the OTA update to kk 4.4.2, which is what I assume it wants to do. I'm on 4.3 with the MI5 baseband. Is there Knox on this bootloader that I have to worry about? Is it easier rooting with what I have or easier on 4.4.2? Thanks in advance for any advice
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Take the update and then decide if you wish to root. That bootloader and version of Jellybean in 5 months old. Where did you buy this phone? You have 3 updates to get to KitKat, so it's going to be awhile.
I would suggest going straight to KitKat via one of the One-click or tar files in the dev forum, but I strongly suggest that you read before making the choice.
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micmars said:
Take the update and then decide if you wish to root. That bootloader and version of Jellybean in 5 months old. Where did you buy this phone? You have 3 updates to get to KitKat, so it's going to be awhile.
I would suggest going straight to KitKat via one of the One-click or tar files in the dev forum, but I strongly suggest that you read before making the choice.
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I got it at the Sprint store, it was their last one. Than ks for the advice!
mta1981 said:
I got it at the Sprint store, it was their last one. Than ks for the advice!
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No problem, and thanks for answering. I really do hope you enjoy your time here on the forums.
[Side notes about the build number being MI3, I don't know if that bodes bad for Sammy or not, but that is pretty stale inventory. Kind of boggles the mind when there have been many on these threads whom have been bi+ch slapped by Sprint's recent rapacious turn IN servicing existing customers, waiting weeks for refurbished devices, when they've more than likely got older unboxed phones sitting in inventory collecting dust. That would kind of irk the crap our of me.]
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micmars said:
Take the update and then decide if you wish to root. That bootloader and version of Jellybean in 5 months old. Where did you buy this phone? You have 3 updates to get to KitKat, so it's going to be awhile.
I would suggest going straight to KitKat via one of the One-click or tar files in the dev forum, but I strongly suggest that you read before making the choice.
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micmars said:
No problem, and thanks for answering. I really do hope you enjoy your time here on the forums.
[Side notes about the build number being MI3, I don't know if that bodes bad for Sammy or not, but that is pretty stale inventory. Kind of boggles the mind when there have been many on these threads whom have been bi+ch slapped by Sprint's recent rapacious turn IN servicing existing customers, waiting weeks for refurbished devices, when they've more than likely got older unboxed phones sitting in inventory collecting dust. That would kind of irk the crap our of me.]
No prob! And thanks, I certainly will, xda is awesome! Spent plenty of time of here for my S3 and N7. Doesn't seem like Sprint cares or they dont want to give out new phones unless theyre making that dollar.
Correct me if im wrong but you cant flash a custom rom w/o a custom recovery right? I want to root so I can get a debloated rom whether it'd be stock debloated or CM but it seems tripping knox is inevitable.
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and that was weird how that quoted you
mta1981 said:
No prob! And thanks, I certainly will, xda is awesome! Spent plenty of time of here for my S3 and N7. Doesn't seem like Sprint cares or they dont want to give out new phones unless theyre making that dollar.
Correct me if im wrong but you cant flash a custom rom w/o a custom recovery right? I want to root so I can get a debloated rom whether it'd be stock debloated or CM but it seems tripping knox is inevitable.
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This is why I suggested that you either take the OTA updates on step sequence, or flash a one-click, and possibly avoid rooting if you can. You need to read, take counsel of patience, and choose for you. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP is not swift, requires time and care. Most importantly, do nothing in hot haste that which you would not do by taking time.
There is no single good reason not to wait if you are in the least undecided or unclear about the means or your desired outcome.
You'll be far happier in the long term. I'd avoid AOSP if this is your first time, but even here, that's my opinion.
Good luck.
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and that was weird how that quoted you
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Fixed it for you.
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Well I tried 4 times with kingo root. usb debugging is checked and the drivers are fine. I tried searching for problems using kingo on MI5, sm-900p, and i got nothing. I just want to root to use titanium backup and freeze all the bloatware. or flash a kit kat rom with it all removed. Micmars, can you gain root by flashing one of those tar files you speak of with odin? or do I have to take the OTA update and then chainfires method? Ive been reading all I can for the past day and I feel like im stuck on the forums in bootloop!
Bump anybody?
mta1981 said:
Well I tried 4 times with kingo root. usb debugging is checked and the drivers are fine. I tried searching for problems using kingo on MI5, sm-900p, and i got nothing. I just want to root to use titanium backup and freeze all the bloatware. or flash a kit kat rom with it all removed. Micmars, can you gain root by flashing one of those tar files you speak of with odin? or do I have to take the OTA update and then chainfires method? Ive been reading all I can for the past day and I feel like im stuck on the forums in bootloop!
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If your not worried about your knox being tripped just use Chainfire's it's easy, download the correct version put it in the Pda slot in Odin flash and you are rooted. It's just about easy as it gets. Then download Rom manager or Goo manager and install one of the recoveries. Then you can flash what ever you like or debloat what you are running.
Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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My recommendation would be to search the Samsung website for an MK2 Odin.tar stock firmware image for your s4. If you can't find it there then I recommend looking on XDA for a no data wipe MK2 image. Once the OTA hits for 4.4.2 touchwiz KitKat I recommend you wait for the devs to find a root exploit for it. Or if you don't mind spending a few bucks you could buy super su pro and enable root survival mode and it keeps root over an ota. But I'll see if I can link you to a non data wipe stock MK2 image.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Here are the stock MK2 images just in case. There are full data wipes and no data wipes available. Hope I was able to help!
damnyouwaffles said:
Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
k1mu said:
Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
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k1mu, we will be repeating this countless times when the OTA happens
Hey guys,
So I have a rooted Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 SCH-1545 running the MK2 build. I've been getting software update messages from Verizon the past few days I'm assuming for the new kit Kat. Since I'm rooted will I be OK if I update the phone with the new software or does anyone know if I will have any problems with it? Cheers.
Can't OTA update while rooted, will fail or soft brick you
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opiejuan said:
Hey guys,
So I have a rooted Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 SCH-1545 running the MK2 build. I've been getting software update messages from Verizon the past few days I'm assuming for the new kit Kat. Since I'm rooted will I be OK if I update the phone with the new software or does anyone know if I will have any problems with it? Cheers.
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If you really want to update to Kit Kat and you're not worried about root you can simply Odin the kit Kat no wipe file.
If you want root you can follow one of the guides on here to keep root while upgrading... those are somewhat involved however so if you're not comfortable with Odin etc you may just want to stay on MK2. That's what I would do... More options to you on MK2
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Mistertac said:
If you really want to update to Kit Kat and you're not worried about root you can simply Odin the kit Kat no wipe file.
If you want root you can follow one of the guides on here to keep root while upgrading... those are somewhat involved however so if you're not comfortable with Odin etc you may just want to stay on MK2. That's what I would do... More options to you on MK2
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absolutely correct, at this point makes no sense to take 4.4 OTA, even with upgrade/downgrade available. Until issues are resolved and more ROMS are available for the non-mdk phone users thru safestrap its best stay back and wait a while.
Well Bob.. not many think of those things and rather just be on the latest and greatest. However once that wears off we see all the questions pop up on here regarding going back... Then the problems come with that process too so its just better IMO to sit tight unless your very good at troubleshooting and Odin.
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Mistertac said:
Well Bob.. not many think of those things and rather just be on the latest and greatest. However once that wears off we see all the questions pop up on here regarding going back... Then the problems come with that process too so its just better IMO to sit tight unless your very good at troubleshooting and Odin.
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couldn't agree more. Just look at the struggles so many have had with the upgrade/downgrade methods and odin issues, much can be blamed on the users trying this stuff and not understanding what they are getting into. Luckily (or unluckily) the avalanche of kitkat hasn't hit as there really aren't safestrap compatible roms out (except for maybe 2), once HD 16 comes out sit back and watch the fireworks as issues happen, even to those knowledgeable with odin.
safestrap, odin, udgrade/downgrade and no direct root method for kitkat gonna make the next few months interesting.
opiejuan said:
Hey guys,
So I have a rooted Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 SCH-1545 running the MK2 build. I've been getting software update messages from Verizon the past few days I'm assuming for the new kit Kat. Since I'm rooted will I be OK if I update the phone with the new software or does anyone know if I will have any problems with it? Cheers.
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The ota update to NC5(KitKat) will fail because you are rooted but will not cause any harm after the failer. It will leave your current set-up intact(just clearing up this point for everyone). You will need to unroot before taking the ota update.
If you are running stock MK2 except for root you can easily upgrade to NC5 and maintain root access by following these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2749660
Hello all,
I was wondering if someone might eb able to tell me the best way of doing this.
I have a s5 running on stock ne6 software knox not tripped rooted with towelroot.
I have modified some files like the framework and csc xml files to allow write to sd card and bypass tethering checks.
How might I go about updating to nf6 and rereooting it again with towelroot?
I was thinking of trying to just use kies to update it but thinking it might be better to get the firmware from samfirmware.com and master reset the phone and flash it using that to start with a clean slate.
And then I should be able to reroot with towelroot again.
That way I have the corrrect bootloader and modems and everything.
What do you think?
What is the best or easiest way to upgrade this to the newest software and reroot it again?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
I found a couple of things so far.
It does not look like you can use towelroot on nf6 is that rriight?
M9x3mos said:
I found a couple of things so far.
It does not look like you can use towelroot on nf6 is that rriight?
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There is a way (confirm by 2 people) to upgrade to nf6 and keep root and does not trip knox. Read it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292
Thank you for the link
I am a bit confused reading through that though.
Do I need to upgrade first to nf6 then downgrade again?
Can I just use mobile odin to upgrade it?
And if so will that insure that I have the newer bootloader too?
M9x3mos said:
Thank you for the link
I am a bit confused reading through that though.
Do I need to upgrade first to nf6 then downgrade again?
Can I just use mobile odin to upgrade it?
And if so will that insure that I have the newer bootloader too?
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From what I gather you need to have root in ne6, which you already has, then follow his steps. Read post #10 for addition settings you need to do to gain root in nf6.
I think you get better response post questions in that thread than here. Good luck.
M9x3mos said:
Thank you for the link
I am a bit confused reading through that though.
Do I need to upgrade first to nf6 then downgrade again?
Can I just use mobile odin to upgrade it?
And if so will that insure that I have the newer bootloader too?
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1 no need to upgrade then downrade
2 yes but bootloader wont update
3 to update bootloader use pc odin and flash firmware only
How can u tell if you have volte? I flashed firmware. Settings say nf6. I didn't loose root, but goes to 4g when I make a call. Dallas area
*Edit- Rom is bot nf6 based, that's why no volte.
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You need to have flashed the modems with Odin too
stoehner said:
How can u tell if you have volte? I flashed firmware. Settings say nf6. I didn't loose root, but goes to 4g when I make a call. Dallas area
*Edit- Rom is bot nf6 based, that's why no volte.
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flashing the nf6 full tar should enable volte.
And flashing the full tar will not remove apps/data/reset the device. I was concerned about this before I flashed. Hope this helps...
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...date-with-knox-2-0-connectivity-improvements/
...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
Surge1223 said:
...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
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Until they realize they are not doing their customers any favors, never.
I knew better. Got an MDK device, rooted it immediately and have been running CM ever since. [emoji41]
If you guys are talking about Knox 2.0...get used to it. Knox is being incorporated by Google in Android "L".
Remember, with all the hackers out there, the average Joe and Joan want their privacy secured...all the banking that is done from the phones now?
And also Verizon is the largest carrier for military and commercial contracts...to keep them and get more the phones have to be as secure as possible.
Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
I think they need to find another root method. Towelroot only works on kernels june 3 and below. I have no idea if it will work if you used it
I'm not upgrading. All flashaholics like me will DEFINITELY just wait for a possible exploit for NC5 than hope for the almost nonexistent chance there will be an unlock in the new firmware. Just my $0.02
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SolidSnakeUS said:
Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
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We have been able to use towelroot on the latest updates for the att S4, S5, and Vz S5 by flashing back the previous kernel, rooting, then reflashing the new unexploitable kernel. Vz S4 users will likely be able to do the same on NG6.
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Least they could have done was give us 4.4.4 at the same time.
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Anyone get this yet. What android version is it still 4.4.2
Does towelroot work on this update? I want to know before I take the plunge...
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Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
MedleHed said:
Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
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Towelroot is guaranteed not to work. A better option is to grab the update from your cache/fota folder and post so that we can make a workaround to keep root.
Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
Surge1223 said:
Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
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Lol, I remember and don't blame you at all.
It's confirmed that towelroot doesn't work. The version is still 4.4.2. The first thing I noticed was the GPS toggle in the notification area is now a Location toggle.
Any method of rooting?
Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
asalkowskineo said:
Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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I could give you guys the OTA if you tell me how to do it. I'm by no means an expert at rooting, but I've had a few years experience. So basically you'll modify the new kernel to allow downgrading to NC5, root, then update again? I had Towelroot before I updated, had OTA survival mode enabled in SuperSU, and had it installed as a system app, but I still lost root on this latest update. :crying:
muniz_ri said:
There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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When they finally block us from doing this, it will be a dark day lol.