Unbelievable how slow this camera is...
Makes it almost unusable, especially with moving objects.
Is it just me?
Really my g2 takes pictures quite fast...no issues here
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Definitely faster than my Galaxy S2 on launch and taking a picture.
This camera has literally made me want to throw the phone against a wall.
What makes it worst is the results are the same with every camera application.
It has to be hardware.
I'm thinking I should've fixed my DROID DNA.
Taking pictures of moving objects is painful to say the least. It makes you wonder how they were able to get those pictures on their commercial...
I would of thought with optical stabilization that moving objects picture taking would be improved.
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I would of thought with optical stabilization that moving objects picture taking would be improved.
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Optical Stabilization has nothing to do with that. It has to do with "shake" caused by handholding the camera. OIS has nothing to do with moving objects. That's shutter speed.
+1 getting good pictures of my child is a PITA. It's just too slow
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Caught the soccer ball midflight without any fuss...
I would say the slowness of the camera is my biggest/only? gripe of the entire phone. This should get fixed soon, but we need to put the word out to them that this is a major concern of its users.
Taking pictures of the kids is ridiculously hard!!!! I have to put it on time shot so it takes multiple shots
TL;DR: A cellphone camera is a lot less flexible than a dedicated camera. If a scene is extremely well lit (read: direct sunlight), a cameraphone should be able to freeze frame, such as that soccer photo that was posted above, but if it's not well lit and/or the camera is biased towards slow shutter speeds, good luck. Gotta use the right tool for the job, and a cellphone isn't it.
Here comes the long version:
To create a picture, a specific amount of light is needed - too little, and you're underexposed, everything is too dark, too much, everything is over exposed; white. There's two primary factors controlling light taken in: Aperture (amount of light let in) and shutter speed (how much light is collected). Imagine filling a cup: aperture is how much you open the tap, and shutter speed is how long you keep it open. However, there's an additional factor: sensor sensitivity (ISO), which is a multiplication factor, but introduces noise when used. Think of measuring rainfall with a big bucket or a small glass. The glass will give you a ballpark figure, but the bucket will be much more accurate.
However, in all cell phones, the aperture is fixed, leaving only iso and shutter speed to be adjusted, and in most cell phones the max ISO is low due to the abysmal noise performance of these tiny sensors. In the case of the G2, it only has 4 stops of adjustment in ISO, where most compact cameras can manage 6 (iso 100-3200) and DSLRS can manage 8 or more. And, you really don't want to be using the last 2 stops if you can at all help it.
Problem is, the shutter speed can only go so low until hand shake becomes an issue. The whole point of image stabilization is to allow slower shutter speeds than could normally be used, with the ancillary benefit of less shaky video. Slower shutter speeds mean a lower ISO can be used, which results in better image quality. IS is one of the big selling points of this phone, so it's not a surprise they've decided to make it heavily favor its usage to increase image quality.
But, for moving stuff, you want fast shutter speeds.... with a bias towards slow shutter speeds, well, there's your problem. Sometimes there is a sports mode which will change the bias towards faster shutter speeds, but the G2's doesn't seem to do that (or it doesn't help much). I'd say, set ISO to max (800) and pray.
Or, if you are talking about focusing on a moving subject, either tap on something on the right plane as the moving subject, and take the picture when the subject is in the right spot. In the case of the G2, you have another option, which is to use manual focus. Either works.
Wow, the entire time I thought my camera was defective. The commercial makes a point of shooting pictures while the subject is moving and getting a still shot. In real life with this phone it's pretty impossible.
For most part the G2's camera has been fine for me but I usually don't take moving pictures with my cell phone camera.
It's true. I hope LG addresses this issue so long as it is a software defect. I'm concerned that it could be a hardware limitation though. capturing moving subjects is near impossible even in good lighting. However, the camera app opens fast enough, faster than SOME other devices. The shutter speed also gives the impression that it is faster than the nexus or moto camera. Galaxy devices are faster and then iOS has fastest shutter speed.
As for still subjects or scenes, this phone has arguably the best camera on any android device. In some instances, it is better than the iphone 5s, in others it is not. Low light shots are heavily softened yet the shot is brighter than any other camera I've seen. The smartphone camera that beats all of them is of course the lumia 1020, which many HAVE also complained to be slow.
Well I have a 9 month old and this thing doesn't miss a beat. I do however have that auto intelligence on and that snap is instant.
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Zigzag is point on. This is cell phone camera. I find it to be one of the best overall in that area. Every cell phone I have owned has had one weakness or the other. If you need quality pictures of moving objects then you need dslr. Or, snap a bunch and take the best one.
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Well I have a 9 month old and this thing doesn't miss a beat. I do however have that auto intelligence on and that snap is instant.
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The camera drives me nuts as well. Every time I read about it someone chimes in saying "well its a cellphone camera" but I have had more cellphones than most people and never had such trouble taking pictures of my son/nephew/nice, etc. To get a child to stand still for a picture is tough and sometimes it takes up to 7 seconds (I've counted) to take the picture. That's an eternity as a parent. I love everything about this phone except that aspect of the camera and the fact that Verizon doesn't offer it in white, which I'm hoping is fixed tomorrow. From there I just have to hope LG has an update for this. I don't care about the science of taking pictures, how it let's in light, I don't care if they have little Indonesian kids working in a little micro-sweat shop drawing pictures. It takes way too long to take a picture in anything but perfect sunny daylight, and thats not because it's a cellphone camera, that's comparing it to many other cellphone cameras.
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The camera drives me nuts as well. Every time I read about it someone chimes in saying "well its a cellphone camera" but I have had more cellphones than most people and never had such trouble taking pictures of my son/nephew/nice, etc. To get a child to stand still for a picture is tough and sometimes it takes up to 7 seconds (I've counted) to take the picture. That's an eternity as a parent. I love everything about this phone except that aspect of the camera and the fact that Verizon doesn't offer it in white, which I'm hoping is fixed tomorrow. From there I just have to hope LG has an update for this. I don't care about the science of taking pictures, how it let's in light, I don't care if they have little Indonesian kids working in a little micro-sweat shop drawing pictures. It takes way too long to take a picture in anything but perfect sunny daylight, and thats not because it's a cellphone camera, that's comparing it to many other cellphone cameras.
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I wasn't saying it drives me nuts... I was saying I don't have an issue with the camera... my son is crawling now and becoming more playful everyday. I don't have any issue with the camera. It does a great capturing him moving around. Not sure what some of you guys are going through because what I use it for it does an awesome job......
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The camera drives me nuts as well. Every time I read about it someone chimes in saying "well its a cellphone camera" but I have had more cellphones than most people and never had such trouble taking pictures of my son/nephew/nice, etc. To get a child to stand still for a picture is tough and sometimes it takes up to 7 seconds (I've counted) to take the picture. That's an eternity as a parent. I love everything about this phone except that aspect of the camera and the fact that Verizon doesn't offer it in white, which I'm hoping is fixed tomorrow. From there I just have to hope LG has an update for this. I don't care about the science of taking pictures, how it let's in light, I don't care if they have little Indonesian kids working in a little micro-sweat shop drawing pictures. It takes way too long to take a picture in anything but perfect sunny daylight, and thats not because it's a cellphone camera, that's comparing it to many other cellphone cameras.
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I meant to quote the person on top of your post, not your post. The strangest part is that I had the phone for about a week and didn't notice any problem with the camera. I rooted it and still didn't even notice any issue. I uprooted back to stock so I could hopefully return it for a white one If it comes out in the next couple of days and it wasn't until that point I noticed it. I took many pictures the following days as I ended up in Great Wolf Lodge and took many unsuccessful pictures of the kids, but I wonder if it was working OK and then gave me a hard time after either rooting or unrooting or if it just took me a few days to get out of the honeymoon stage to realize it. I'm curious to see what happens if I do get the option to switch my phone in the coming days, if it'll still be a problem or not.
Didn't mean for such a long post, sorry. Just following the lead of the thread, "Blowing Off Steam."
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I read somewhere (most likely on here) that the Optimus PRO had the same issue for a while with the slow shutter and was eventually fixed with a software upgrade. I never had LG before (mainly because it isn't a heavily supported brand, which is frustrating with this one as well) so I don't know how they've been in the past.
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I meant to quote the person on top of your post, not your post. The strangest part is that I had the phone for about a week and didn't notice any problem with the camera. I rooted it and still didn't even notice any issue. I uprooted back to stock so I could hopefully return it for a white one If it comes out in the next couple of days and it wasn't until that point I noticed it. I took many pictures the following days as I ended up in Great Wolf Lodge and took many unsuccessful pictures of the kids, but I wonder if it was working OK and then gave me a hard time after either rooting or unrooting or if it just took me a few days to get out of the honeymoon stage to realize it. I'm curious to see what happens if I do get the option to switch my phone in the coming days, if it'll still be a problem or not.
Didn't mean for such a long post, sorry. Just following the lead of the thread, "Blowing Off Steam."
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I have read others with your issue and then those like me with no issue. Could be bad batch ois in some of the phones.
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I have seen a few threads on this, but it seems like no one has any answers, or i guess it doesn't bother them... Anyway the camera app is horrible at taking shots of anything that can move. I have tried camera fx as well and it's no better.
My captivate camera app was better, and my wifes old iphone will smoke this camera in regards of shutter speed.
It seems impossible to get any non blurry pics of my kids even just sitting there (as we all know kids don't sit perfectly still)
Long story short, is there anyway to get a quicker shutter speed? I have tried all the different ISO settings, and my anti shake is off and a bunch of other things and i still can't get this thing to take decent pictures. If you are using it on things that don't move its great! other than that, it's pretty frustrating. :/
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!
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I have seen a few threads on this, but it seems like no one has any answers, or i guess it doesn't bother them... Anyway the camera app is horrible at taking shots of anything that can move. I have tried camera fx as well and it's no better.
My captivate camera app was better, and my wifes old iphone will smoke this camera in regards of shutter speed.
It seems impossible to get any non blurry pics of my kids even just sitting there (as we all know kids don't sit perfectly still)
Long story short, is there anyway to get a quicker shutter speed? I have tried all the different ISO settings, and my anti shake is off and a bunch of other things and i still can't get this thing to take decent pictures. If you are using it on things that don't move its great! other than that, it's pretty frustrating. :/
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Taking pics with lots of light helps tremendously. If you're going to take low light pics it certainly will induce a lot of shutter lag. Its a good camera for sure but its not a professional slr.
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For sure, I understand it is still a cell phone, but compared to my captivate and my wife's iPhone, this camera is disappointing.
Thanks for the reply! I suppose ill have to live with it for now. Maybe when the ics source comes out it will be better.
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The iPhone 4S camera still the best and fastest camera on the market (phone wise). SGS2 is a solid # 2
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The iPhone 4S camera still the best and fastest camera on the market (phone wise). SGS2 is a solid # 2
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It's been a while since I had a Nokia phone (N95), but those cameras were the best by far.
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The iPhone 4S camera still the best and fastest camera on the market (phone wise). SGS2 is a solid # 2
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Not according to reviews and tests.
4s can't change any settings - everything is auto. Sgs2 has nearly full control or auto. This device was also released 8mo ago... so if you give it that, its understandable why the 4s might have a slight edge.
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Well I'm not going by reviews, just personal experience. my wife has the 4S and that camera is freaking fast when compared to the SGS2 and the picture quality is better. I hate Apple and their products.. but the true is the true
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I have seen a few threads on this, but it seems like no one has any answers, or i guess it doesn't bother them... Anyway the camera app is horrible at taking shots of anything that can move. I have tried camera fx as well and it's no better.
My captivate camera app was better, and my wifes old iphone will smoke this camera in regards of shutter speed.
It seems impossible to get any non blurry pics of my kids even just sitting there (as we all know kids don't sit perfectly still)
Long story short, is there anyway to get a quicker shutter speed? I have tried all the different ISO settings, and my anti shake is off and a bunch of other things and i still can't get this thing to take decent pictures. If you are using it on things that don't move its great! other than that, it's pretty frustrating. :/
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!
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I would also agree that the Captivate's camera was better, but more for white balance in warmer light.
As for your issue, i'm a bit confused. Is your problem shutter lag (the time between when you press the shutter and when the exposure starts) or that the shutter speed seems really slow?
If it's the later, could you post a sample photo along with the EXIF info? Also try at different amounts of light.
I'm not new to Android or the Galaxy family - this is my fourth Android phone, and I'm most recently coming from the Epic 4G Touch (Galaxy SII) which has the same camera [hardware-wise] as this phone... and software wise I'd expect similar if not some improvements, given this is the next version of that phone line.
I've only had this phone a few weeks, so I'm hoping there's a setting that I'm not aware of to relieve this: the autofocus is painfully slow. Much slower than the E4GT (GSII) Why?
I was at a wedding yesterday, and missed about HALF my shots, because after pressing the shutter button, it took I'd say between 2 and 3 seconds for the camera to autofocus and finally take the picture. And - half of the time, they didn't even autofocus right, the pictures ended up blurry.
I've also observed this in the past just taking random snapshots on this phone - it didn't become such a concern until I found myself at an important event like this wedding. I can't have a camera that's completely unreliable and impossibly slow.
I didn't have this problem with the E4GT, that camera performance was absolutely beautiful. I showed off the detail of the pictures I took to my family who was taking pictures with "real" cameras. This doesn't even compare - my old HTC G1 had a faster autofocus and shutter.
What's the deal here?
Faulty camera?
I'd say you have a faulty camera? I've taken hundreds of pictures with mine, with absolutely no auto-focusing issues. It's blazing fast. If you know someone else with a GS3, try a comparison, if yours is struggling while the other one takes pictures with ease, then you have your answer. On the other hand, a software update might fix the issues. Jelly Bean should be out soon for the S3, see if that does the trick.
Which ROM/Kernel/app were u using when u took the photos?
If u used the stock ROM, it should be super fast...
That's really strange...
they are instant on mine.
which i dont like cuz i am not sure if they are well focused <.<
Stock. All stock. Even still running Touchwiz.
It's only occasional. Sometimes I snap a pic and it's fast. But I never had such delays on my E4GT...
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Stock. All stock. Even still running Touchwiz.
It's only occasional. Sometimes I snap a pic and it's fast. But I never had such delays on my E4GT...
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Don't waste your time and take it to the Service Center if you re clueless.
Mine snaps instantly, and i mean it.. always.
Sounds like you are clueless. I don't appreciate that comment. And honestly, what kind of fool snap-reacts and exchanges his fully-configured phone on instinct? That's the definition of clueless. Wow.
If you tap the shutter button, yes - instant - because it skips focusing entirely.
But if you hold the shutter button down and release to take the picture, it's not instant. It's not instant when you release - it finishes focusing, THEN captures the picture. And if there's any motion of the camera (like trying to capture the bride/from walking into the reception), if anything else comes into the focus box momentarily, it seems to restart focusing again.
Even if you don't do that - if you try to whip your phone out, unlock it, open the camera, and point it at something - it initially auto-focuses on its own. It's a nice feature, but that box doesn't go green instantly - far from it.
This is a software difference, not a defect, compared to the GSII.
Yes, focus is important.
There's clue #1 for you do you don't ruin important photos.
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Sounds faulty. Tested one in the shop the other day and it worked superb.
You could try changing the focus mode to macro maybe or by a sony xperia s I hear the phone has a dedicated camera button and is 12 mp. If you want the phone to be a camera sony maybe better.
On my s2 the focus is slow like you said but I use fixed focus mode in a custom rom and just touch the screen then snap away.
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Yeah sounds like you are in macro mode, usually takes a long time and at the end it doesn't focus the object but does take the picture regardless of focus, It has happened to me too many times now... if you are on auto then there might be a problem, and HARDWARE wise this camera module is not the same as any other android in the market.. you can say it's the same as the iphone 4s but not GS2 or whatever other phone out there with 8mpix camera.
Thanks HTC for bring a bigger mp camera to a phone that's suppose to be the little brother of the m8.........
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/5/...tes-the-companys-flagship-phone-in-a-trimmed
...because we're ALWAYS complaining about the MP on our camera when we just upload the photos to instagram and fb..
You can't say that for ALL users. A lot of people don't need a expensive camera to take pics. Especially if you want to use that pic past Facebook etc. All I'm saying is instead of adding a second camera. HTC could have added more to the m8 to help keep it from being the same camera with a second camera. End of the day 4mp camera is a 4mp camera
When I want to use my pics past loading onto social apps. I use my note 3. But if I want to use this pic to upload then yes either my m8 or note 3 will do the job just fine
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I'll agree that what smartphone camera is "better" depends on how you in particular use the camera. But just because a camera has more MP, does not make it "better" either. We'll have to wait and see if the camera on the One Mini 2 actually yields better quality images than the M8.
Unless you are blowing up or cropping photos a lot, 13 MP is too much and a joke for a camera phone. High MP smartphone cameras really struggle in low light. And unless you are taking pictures outdoors in broad daylight, its often low light.
I'll agree that HTC probably should not have opted for the dual camera on the M8. Kinda cool at times, but also pretty gimmicky. The money probably would have been better spent improving image quality on the single rear camera (even if not to increase the MP).
It's kinda a slap in the face to a certain degree. Here is the new m8 with the same camera with a secondary camera which is mostly gimmicky while nice at the same time. Then they decide to make the new HTC one mini from a 5 mp camera to a 13MP camera...........
Now will it have better pics? Probably not or probably so. For most people it don't matter, but after being in retail when trying to sell a customer the one the camera is its downside cause on PAPER the 4mp camera doesn't sound good at all compared to the other smartphones out in the market. People will buy the mini 2 because of it has higher mp count than the m8. While the m8 blows the mini in other specs that 13MP camera looks a lot better to somebody who doesn't care to have the latest and greatest specs.
While a higher mp count doesn't make a camera phone any better yes, but why bring the same thing to the table for your flagship but have a mid range phone with a better spec camera on paper WHEN it comes to mp count. .
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but after being in retail when trying to sell a customer the one the camera is its downside cause on PAPER the 4mp camera doesn't sound good at all compared to the other smartphones out in the market. People will buy the mini 2 because of it has higher mp count than the m8.
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Unfortunately, Average Joe is always going to fall for that marketing gimmick of chasing big numbers, without having any real understanding of what they mean. How many times have you seen someone with a fancy, big screen 1080p TV; and the owner just has a standard definition program on it; and not even in the right aspect ratio (so the picture is all stretched out to fill the screen). That kinda crap drives me crazy!
I for one applaud HTC for turning their nose up at the megapixel arms race. Its gotten absurd. I mean seriously, do we really need a smartphone with a 41 MP camera? Of course not (I understand its actually a really good camera, but not because its 41 MP).
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While a higher mp count doesn't make a camera phone any better yes, but why bring the same thing to the table for your flagship but have a mid range phone with a better spec camera on paper WHEN it comes to mp count. .
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That is a really good point. Why push a certain marketing strategy (and one that particularly bucks the trend) for one device, then do nearly the exact opposite for another device.
In any case, I don't think that the Mini 2 will really compete directly with the M8. Price point alone, even the Average Joe Blow is going to know its a flagship versus a "budget" phone. Don't know about the One Mini in particular, but for the most part, any HTC phone aside from the "flagship" tends to sell in extremely low numbers. At least here in the US (don't know about other regions).
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Unfortunately, Average Joe is always going to fall for that marketing gimmick of chasing big numbers, without having any real understanding of what they mean. How many times have you seen someone with a fancy, big screen 1080p TV; and the owner just has a standard definition program on it; and not even in the right aspect ratio (so the picture is all stretched out to fill the screen). That kinda crap drives me crazy!
I for one applaud HTC for turning their nose up at the megapixel arms race. Its gotten absurd. I mean seriously, do we really need a smartphone with a 41 MP camera? Of course not (I understand its actually a really good camera, but not because its 41 MP).
That is a really good point. Why push a certain marketing strategy (and one that particularly bucks the trend) for one device, then do nearly the exact opposite for another device.
In any case, I don't think that the Mini 2 will really compete directly with the M8. Price point alone, even the Average Joe Blow is going to know its a flagship versus a "budget" phone. Don't know about the One Mini in particular, but for the most part, any HTC phone aside from the "flagship" tends to sell in extremely low numbers. At least here in the US (don't know about other regions).
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The same reason we need 4k Tv's and 2k screen on smartphones. To keep making them money lol! Exactly why say your not going to follow the trend but all your other phones are right in the trend? Lol but HTC could have tried a little harder for the m8 speaking of the camera of course. The phone is rock solid but don't have these commercials making fun of these mp trends and being different when your other devices join right in with today's trends.
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Some of my favorite shots have come from the camera on my M8. In terms of higher quality, I'm actually looking at the Sony G Lens, since it is supposed to take really nice shots, and is $200 at my local best buy.
Some people such as my self want a phone with camera and some prefer cameras that can be used as a phone.
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You can't say that for ALL users. A lot of people don't need a expensive camera to take pics. Especially if you want to use that pic past Facebook etc. All I'm saying is instead of adding a second camera. HTC could have added more to the m8 to help keep it from being the same camera with a second camera. End of the day 4mp camera is a 4mp camera
When I want to use my pics past loading onto social apps. I use my note 3. But if I want to use this pic to upload then yes either my m8 or note 3 will do the job just fine
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If I want to use my pics for something worthwhile, I use my Canon EOS.. otherwise I use a crappy phone camera.
lets all cut the crap. the camera is nice on the M8 and i do agree. to a certain degree. mega pixels don't make the camera. but it sucks for details when blowing up pictures or zooming we dont need 20 mp. but i think we should have something alittle higher
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lets all cut the crap. the camera is nice on the M8 and i do agree. to a certain degree. mega pixels don't make the camera. but it sucks for details when blowing up pictures or zooming we dont need 20 mp. but i think we should have something alittle higher
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reviews for the one mini 2 have started surfacing. in ideal conditions it is resolving a lot more detail, by a huge margin. but anything other than ideal and the m8 takes it.
i think the 2.0 pixel size is great and all, but i think we couldve benefited a lot for 1.8 sized pixels and an extra megapixel. that configuration shouldn't lead to a large camera hump.
i'm happy with what i got either way, i do miss the old OIS from my old m7. but whatever, the m8 has proven to be a capable shooter. and my nx300 is always on stand by in case i need a real camera
Any advice on rooting the Mini 2. I receive it tomorrow from carphone warehouse (379sterling.) Has the original Mini gained from official CM11 support thus far?
Any insight on how to root my forthcoming mini 2 and gaining cwm and porting roms would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know what phone o could potentially port from for the Mini 2.
How difficult to root and install a custom cwm recovery?
Hello community!
I have just bought the new HTC One Mini 2, it is locked with EE network. It looks like I am unable to get the unlock code anywhere. Do you have any suggestion or advice?
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what sucks is having a super light sensitive camera.. while living in Florida. It's always bright unless you paint your windows black.
So what if it has a camera with higher MPs. That doesn't make it a better phone than m8. Unless HTC comes up with a device having the same internals as the m8 but a better camera resolution, I don't see what is there to fuss about.
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what sucks is having a super light sensitive camera.. while living in Florida. It's always bright unless you paint your windows black.
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I'm not so sure that having a more sensitive sensor (while better for low light situations) necessarily means that there will be too much light in bright situations. The camera controls the sensitivity (ISO based on the old "film speed" terminology) as well as the aperture (f-stop). It might be that the automatic exposure that the camera is trying to achieve (balance between ISO, aperture and shutter time) is too bright for your local conditions. In which case, you can manually lower the exposure by tapping the 3-top menu button in the camera app, tap EV and lower the exposure value.
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I'm not so sure that having a more sensitive sensor (while better for low light situations) necessarily means that there will be too much light in bright situations. The camera controls the sensitivity (ISO based on the old "film speed" terminology) as well as the aperture (f-stop). It might be that the automatic exposure that the camera is trying to achieve (balance between ISO, aperture and shutter time) is too bright for your local conditions. In which case, you can manually lower the exposure by tapping the 3-top menu button in the camera app, tap EV and lower the exposure value.
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I've messed with all the settings. I appreciate the feedback though...
Unfortunately, if i have any picture with a bright spot from the sun the whole picture gets washed out. Full indoor is fine and full outdoor is fine. But daytime pictures indoors with sun coming in the window- washed out. Granted- if i still lived in Philly (or most parts of the country) i doubt it would be an issue.
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I've messed with all the settings. I appreciate the feedback though...
Unfortunately, if i have any picture with a bright spot from the sun the whole picture gets washed out. Full indoor is fine and full outdoor is fine. But daytime pictures indoors with sun coming in the window- washed out. Granted- if i still lived in Philly (or most parts of the country) i doubt it would be an issue.
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Any camera will have issues if there are areas in the frame which are very bright, or spotty lighting (mix of bright and darker spots). Or does it seem worse with the phone? Often forcing the focus to a different spot by tapping the screen helps a lot.
As the title indicates I am interested to see what people who own the Z2 feel about shutter speed in auto 8mp wide mode and also the cameras ability to Freeze motion both indoor and outdoor shots.
I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has a G3 as I have one on pre-order and also how the camera speed compares to the M8 super speedy camera.
I have watched loads of reviews and the time it takes from pressing shutter to the camera animation / taking seems a little slow but not many reviews talk about this subject.
The reason I ask is I have fast moving kids
Thanks in advance.
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Ive found that superiour auto doesnt always work but when it does the snapspeed is very rapid with minimal bluring
Z2 can record at 120fps maximum so there is video recording (slow motion edits are fun to play with)
3200 max iso (higher =faster snap)
Z2 does get a little warm when using the camera
I dont own the other two devices so my reivews/info is from 20 mins of experiance
The M8 has a alittle better due to the dedicated HW however pictured dont look as sharp and vibrant
The G3 i havnt seen much of aside hearing that focusing hardly ever fails and the sharpness of the camera is perfect
Id say look for camera shootouts
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Thanks for reply. I like camera shootouts but they never focus (lol) on the fast moving subjects and concentrate on low light and daylight shots.
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ipmanwck said:
Thanks for reply. I like camera shootouts but they never focus (lol) on the fast moving subjects and concentrate on low light and daylight shots.
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I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
le_lutin said:
I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
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Really helpful. Thanks very much. What is the time from when you press the shutter from it actually taking a pic. HTC and g3 are super fast but z2 appears to have a small delay ?
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I've taken a few photos from moving cars and they almost always turned out extremely clear. I was very impressed
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I've taken a few photos from moving cars and they almost always turned out extremely clear. I was very impressed
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Impressive. What about running kids or pets ?
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Took some pics of my son running around and kicking a football about and they all came out clear even shots with ball in the air and him running.
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Took some pics of my son running around and kicking a football about and they all came out clear even shots with ball in the air and him running.
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Wow. That's pretty good to hear. Could anyone please post samples of fast moving stuff. Would love to see a dog running being frozen or if someone could bounce a tennis ball and try to capture it whilst it's in fast motion ...not at the top of the bounce where it stops in mid air. Still trying to make a decision between this phone and g3 which I preordered. Not very confident that the g3 camera is going to be better than the Z2 ... Still deciding. Thanks for all the help.
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Will see what I can do
ipmanwck said:
Really helpful. Thanks very much. What is the time from when you press the shutter from it actually taking a pic. HTC and g3 are super fast but z2 appears to have a small delay ?
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The delay is probably because it re-focuses before it takes the picture. Fortunately the dedicated camera button comes in handy here because you have the ability to half-press the shutter button which will focus and lock the focus until you do a full-press. Means that you can be much more certain that what you see when you press is what you get when the photo is processed.
You can actually acheive the same result with the on-screen buttonby first pressing it (which locks focus) and then unpressing it, which will fire the shutter.
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The delay is probably because it re-focuses before it takes the picture. Fortunately the dedicated camera button comes in handy here because you have the ability to half-press the shutter button which will focus and lock the focus until you do a full-press. Means that you can be much more certain that what you see when you press is what you get when the photo is processed.
You can actually acheive the same result with the on-screen buttonby first pressing it (which locks focus) and then unpressing it, which will fire the shutter.
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Thanks. I went and had a good test of the camera in 3 UK today. I found that half holding the hardware shutter key then fully pressing it was effective. I tested it instore but found that when I waved my hand back and forward and tried to capture it in a still image of struggled a little. If I didn't half hold the shutter to lock focus I found auto focus was not that quick compared to m8 and s5. Not bad but not as quick. Timeshift is excellent and overall I think camera was quite good. I always buy phones SIM free but I would only pay 450 for one. It's currently £550 which is steep when the other handsets are around 400 now. Waiting for a good deal.
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I try to shooting the puppies while they playing with auto mode. It look ok for me.
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I try to shooting the puppies while they playing with auto mode. It look ok for me.
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Thanks for pic. Taken through glass too ! Nice. A little blurred around the foot of the moving white dog but really appreciate the pic.
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ipmanwck said:
Thanks. I went and had a good test of the camera in 3 UK today. I found that half holding the hardware shutter key then fully pressing it was effective. I tested it instore but found that when I waved my hand back and forward and tried to capture it in a still image of struggled a little. If I didn't half hold the shutter to lock focus I found auto focus was not that quick compared to m8 and s5. Not bad but not as quick. Timeshift is excellent and overall I think camera was quite good. I always buy phones SIM free but I would only pay 450 for one. It's currently £550 which is steep when the other handsets are around 400 now. Waiting for a good deal.
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For me the focus speed is much, much less important than the shutter speed. It could take a second to focus (it doesn't, obviously) and I still wouldn't care that much as long as it was able to freeze the action.
I bought mine about a month ago in store from 3 UK for £459. Price must have gone up since then. £550 is definitely quite steep.
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For me the focus speed is much, much less important than the shutter speed. It could take a second to focus (it doesn't, obviously) and I still wouldn't care that much as long as it was able to freeze the action.
I bought mine about a month ago in store from 3 UK for £459. Price must have gone up since then. £550 is definitely quite steep.
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I hear what your saying. What phone did you come from. Yes the price has shot up. 549 is a joke. Apparently ee were selling then at 429 but missed it .... Booooo.
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I hear what your saying. What phone did you come from. Yes the price has shot up. 549 is a joke. Apparently ee were selling then at 429 but missed it .... Booooo.
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Came from a G2. Really liked it but i just couldn't live with the camera. Such a disappointment. Before that I had a Note 2, which was very good. Excellent camera. I find the pictures with the samsungs are a bit sharper which I have to admit I preferred. Z2 pics have a bit less sharpness to them. I'd take the Z2 camera all day long though as it's better in low light than the note 2.
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Came from a G2. Really liked it but i just couldn't live with the camera. Such a disappointment. Before that I had a Note 2, which was very good. Excellent camera. I find the pictures with the samsungs are a bit sharper which I have to admit I preferred. Z2 pics have a bit less sharpness to them. I'd take the Z2 camera all day long though as it's better in low light than the note 2.
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G2 camera was pretty bad. Sammy has poor low light shots. Good to hear z2 is better.
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If anyone can post more samples that would be great. Thanks.
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le_lutin said:
I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
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This is exactly my case. Have a g2 to and can't capture nothing moving. Is a bit better after a few camera mods but is not ideal. I will buy z2, was a bit worried about camera overheat but I think I will try it anyway.
Hi gang,
I come to you today a little sad and depressed. I live in Pittsburgh and its blue skies here today, 73 degrees.
Naturally I'm out and about taking pictures.
Quick background, I love cameras. Love the S6 active, but there were times I wish I had more manual settings ( all the time).
Enter the LG V10. Loved the presentation, advertisements, heck I love manual video mode. But I'm a little disturbed by the quality.
I'm one of those people that zoom in, not necessarily to critique but to enjoy the delicacies that my eye cannot normally see.
Day1 of the LG V10, I dropped some money and bought it.
Was a little curious why after I take a picture whether it's in manual or auto mode I have to wait a second until I take another picture. This is 2015, almost 2016. Not 2012.
Also, the compression LG uses on this is...to say the least, disappointing. I'm talking picture mode. I zoom in just once and its distorted, blended, blurred. Why, LG, why?
This is LG's chance to shine. Not with the processor gpu or RAM, but with the camera and Video.
I'm considering fresh installing and master resetting this just to see if the camera is any better after complete reinstall. Has anybody had any success? I'm...seriously disappointed. Not a Samsung fanboy but when I see greatness I appreciate it. I know Samsung will copy this on next flagship, more manual camera and Video settings but this is now, I want a great camera that can compete with the big boys with that f1.8.
Any suggestions? I don't want to take this back but on a beautiful day like today, these pictures should be turning out amazing. Sad That the RAW image is crap too. ?
Can anybody help or am I just whining (gulp)? Could I have a bad camera or not have an update?
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Can anybody help or am I just whining (gulp)? Could I have a bad camera or not have an update?
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Hate to say this, but sound like you are whining to me. Though I am not a camera savey individual...so I can't fully say. The camera...I can tolerate one second for anything. If I wanted true manual camera, I will buy a camera...a real one.
You could try factoring reset to see if that will change your perspective. Also you can return to the store and play with their store demo and see whats up.
From my stand point, i think you are whining lol
Thanks. I honestly want to hear what other people say. I can wait too, but the point is not to wait with these processors. Snap snap snap. Just was curious about how other individuals felt, not the reviewers who honestly almost never know what they are doing or have another objective in mind.
Also thanks for honesty. I figure I am whining, I just wanted to see something amazing today.
I think if hold the button down it will shoot in burst mode? Have you tried that?
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I think if hold the button down it will shoot in burst mode? Have you tried that?
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Yes, that's not what I'm referring to, however. From the time you take a picture to the time it takes to take the next picture, there is a delay.
That being said, there must have been something wrong while taking pictures outside yesterday. Not sure what but pictures are a little better today for another wonderful clear blue skies and 73 degrees.
Btw it appears to be an autofocus issue. I'll press button and it will take photo but won't allow me to take another photo for over a second. Same on G4. Tried it in Best Buy last night then the S6. S6 can repeatedly take shot almost instantaneously after you take last shot. I'm still not sure why there is such a delay.
Is this happening for everybody? I keep reading in posts that everyone who loves this phone the camera is "fast" and I'm not sure what they are referring to?
In AUTO mode I think it has a lot to do with HDR. If you turn that off, it'll be much faster. I'm not exactly sure how much will you lose in quality though...
But in Manual mode, it's quite fast for me. I can basically take the next picture instantenously. It doesn't have that lag that it has in Auto mode with HDR on.
After I read this I tested again to see how quickly mine takes shots and the details. I've not done too much with the camera as of yet.
The results :
In Auto mode with HDR auto it fires off pics as quickly as I can press the button.
In simple mode there is a slight delay because when I touch the screen it wants to focus then snap the pic.
There is a little bit of grain upon zooming in with both modes which I've not noticed before. Seems like a little much for a 16mp shooter and I don't think it was that much on my G3. I think for what it is though it is very solid. As some others have said if you want the most crisp detail for zooming an cropping you can't beat a true DSLR camera but I don't think you're sacrificing alot by using this for everyday point and shoot.
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Youre definitely NOT whining! I believed the v10 camera hype and bought one two days ago. And i agree 100% with you that the camera is not great. I'll even go further and state that it sucks. The shutter delay is bad and the quality is muddy and noisy beyond words in low light. This clearly stands as my last big mistake of 2015!
I agree. The cams are absolutely not what they are hyped up to be. Especially the front cams. The selfie quality is just horrendous. Both cams are very noisy, terrible in low light, and blow out lights, lamps, etc. to an excessive amount. If I didn't get the phone on AT&T's Next plan.... it would be going back. The cam/vid hype was a huge decision in getting it & it doesn't live up to it.
The best thing to do is complain on both their Twitter & Facebook pages, although they are more responsive on Twitter. I would like to think a lot of these issues could be remedied with software updates for the cameras.