So, my DNA is outside of the warranty period (was provided with the phone after numerous issues with another phone model in January I had originally purchased last August) and yesterday, it appears that it managed to brick itself. I was running cm 10.2 ( without issue I might add), when yesterday morning, after being on a wireless charger all night, the battery drained from 100% to 0% in about half an hour while getting incredibly hot. The odd thing is, I couldn't find a software culprit during that time. Also, the phone basically started to trickle charge only, even when the phone was off. Thus, I waited about an hour with the phone off to charge it to 10% and bottled into TWRP to restore a recovery of a Sense ROM. Mid-recovery, the phone shut down instantly and since, I haven't been able to get it to charge (no light) after multiple attempts with different charging solutions and combinations of button presses. I have a new phone on order via my carrier contract upgrade, but I'd love to resuscitate this thing, if not just to get my data off that hadn't been backed up. Does this sound like a hardware issue (I.e. Bad battery) or do you guys think the phone bricked itself when it shut down during the restoration process? Any troubleshooting tips?
chances are hardware failure as it seems common lately on here lol and you can buy a phone with a bad screen and lose your info or jtag and lose your info or keep a pretty black and red paper weight either way unless it takes a full charge and you are luck to get recovery back up a good backup to take your out of luck enjoy your new device coming
t1gartist said:
chances are hardware failure as it seems common lately on here lol and you can buy a phone with a bad screen and lose your info or jtag and lose your info or keep a pretty black and red paper weight either way unless it takes a full charge and you are luck to get recovery back up a good backup to take your out of luck enjoy your new device coming
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It seems that way. Been on the charger for 3 days with no luck. I think I'm going to order one of those case opening tools and see if I can remove the battery cable for a reboot.
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Hey there,
I have my Vibrant for a good year now since it came out pretty much. Last week it just stopped charging out the blue. The battery is completely empty and shows a thermometer with a warning sign and stops charging seconds after its plugged in. So I assumed it might be a battery malfunction and I got my spare battery in as soon as I came home and tried charging - same problem. I think it is highly unlikely that both batteries fail at the same time. Therefore, I assume there is something wrong with the temp sensor in the phone. I saw a few people have a similar problem with the epic 4G, but the discussion got really side tracked by other issues. My phone is rooted, but I was running stock froyo, so that shouldn't be the problem or should it?
I just wanna know if anybody had the same problems and if there is a quick solution, I google and forum searched a while but as soon as you throw in the term battery it gets spammed with battery life discussions.I just checked my files I have on the phone, apparently I have the premium insurance - does that mean I just can go to the next Tmo store and get a replacement? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Phill
Well for your problem, i suggest you try a different rom and see if the problem persists... maybe its a bug
And as for insurance, you mail the phone in and pay a deductible, which should be like 135$ or so. They send you a refurb.. or if you say it wus lost, you dont have to mail in phone
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
I don't see it as a bad thing. If your phone gets too hot and keeps charging that's going to burn something inside. When my phone won't charge I know I have let it down. So it can cool down. But to fix your problem reboot the phone. You can keep charging it after it boots up
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
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As long as your phone can run successfully for a couple minutes, i dont see why not
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Mine did something similar. I picked it up after putting it on the charger. It was hot and would not come on. I unplugged it and let it cool off for a while and it cleared up.
I got that message once...
Vibrant was in a car dock, with power.
It was *HOT* out and sun was hitting the back of the unit. (A/C on of course)
Google Navigation was running (display brightness max)
Google Listen was running
Bluetooth was passing music to a speakerphone
When I run the phone with that setup, the charger can't even keep up with the phone power needs. The battery level slowly drops. No question the phone is working hard.
This was a true heat issue... I removed the charger and turned off the display to let it cool off a bit. (I was almost home).
So the question again, is your phone hot or is it a false reading?
Robert
Hey,
I am sorry I didn't clarify the actual battery temp. It is normal - so its neither in the sun or in a too cold spot when I try charging it. The phone probably runs for one for a few seconds before turning off so there is no chance of the battery stats wipe. I think I will try to find an external charger and try to charge the batteries this way to have enough juice for flashing a new rom. Thanks for all the replies!
Does it charge the battery with the phone off? If not, I don't think a new ROM will help.
Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but a resolution never seemed to be made here. Has anybody found a fix to this?
As of yesterday, my wife is having the same issue with my old Vibrant phone which she now uses. It's flashed with Bionix V 1.3.1 and Tigerblood overclock to 1.2ghz. This could be the issue, the Tiger Blood overclock, but I'm not sure. I'm out of the country for three weeks and currently she's left with a dud of a phone that keeps giving her the temperature warning in the triangle when plugged in while the phone is powered off followed by it stop charging. When she turns it on, she gets to the SD card check and then the phone completely freezes. Once in a while it's able to stay on for a minute or so before freezing, but more often than not the phone does not fully turn on and just goes frozen after a few seconds, sometimes at the Tigerblood logon screen before making it to the desktop. Me being 4000 miles away doesn't make it easier to help her but I've recommended she leave the phone unplugged, battery out for the night to see what happens. I also told her to take off her silicon case thinking maybe that has something to do with the overheating. Well after 7 hours of her letting it sit to cool off like that, with the case off, she plugged it back in and is having the same issues as yesterday. Absolutely no progress made. One of her colleagues said she should try leaving the phone in rice confused:) so she's giving that a go and another guy in a phone shop who she went to for advice after work said that the motherboard might need replacing. I'm convinced all it needs is to have the Tigerblood removed or reflash a rom onto it but there's really no knowing unless I have it in my hand.
Is there any quick fix to this problem without having to do all that? Surely there must be a way to charge the phone without it heating up and freezing up. She's tried plugging it into different rooms, on her laptop, etc, none seem to get rid of the temperature problem. I've had the phone since August 2010 and never had any issues with it. I also never once saw that temperature error message so was taken aback when she showed me it over skype. I just upgraded to the S3 and gave her the phone 2 weeks ago, but surely it shouldn't just die out just like that? Thought the Vibrants were made tougher than that?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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Update- Phone doesn't even turn on anymore, no signs of life
danny_extremex said:
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Some kernels require a certain amount of power to fully boot the phone up and will not charge until it has 5% battery or so. I personally think her battery may be unable to hold a charge or like I said before it doesn't have enough juice to boot the phone because of the kernel. There is a way to charge the battery with the phone off. You can use ANY kind of usb cord, I used an old printer usb cable when I had to do this. All you do is cut off the side that is not usb and strip the positive and negative wires(red and black), then place the stripped wires on the positive and negative connectors on the back of the phone and insert the battery (make sure it's a snug fit). Plug the usb end into your pc and charge the battery that way, DO NOT let charge for over 2 minutes at a time. Wait five minutes and do it again if you have to. If she gets it to boot up, I would definitely flash a new kernel first to see if thats how the problem originated.
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So I have the Best Buy Black Tie Protection Plan for my Atrix and about 2 weeks ago I took my Atrix into Best Buy to have them fix a cracked screen, when I got it back it ran fine, then about 10 minutes after getting it I unlocked it and installed CM7 Weekly 4. I started getting random reboots and had to pull the battery occasionally. Then the phone would start to get really hot and the screen wouldn't turn on and the battery would drain overnight when I normally get at least a day off my battery. Yesterday my phone wouldn't even turn on and I found the only way to have it turn on is if I plug it into the charger though it doesn't charge and won't boot, it just freezes at the Motorola boot screen. I can't turn the phone on if the charger isn't connected and as soon I disconnect the charger the phone turns off.
I really love this phone but ever since I got it back from best buy it's been full of problems. Does anyone know what is wrong with my phone or any way to fix this? Also does best buy have a 30 day return policy for when they repair your phone or would having them fix my phone again use up my second and last repair? Thanks for your help, if there's anything information you need to know just ask.
From my understanding, I am guessing that you overheated your phone by flashing a highly overclocked kernel and you also got a soft brick in the process.
My advice to you would be to find another battery to see if you can get the phone to charge and switch on as I think that your battery fried.
Once the battery problem is sorted, you can easily fix the soft brick. There are some threads about it. If you can't find it, P.M. me and I will find the thread for you.
Don't worry, your phone is fixable.
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From my understanding, I am guessing that you overheated your phone by flashing a highly overclocked kernel and you also got a soft brick in the process.
My advice to you would be to find another battery to see if you can get the phone to charge and switch on as I think that your battery fried.
Once the battery problem is sorted, you can easily fix the soft brick. There are some threads about it. If you can't find it, P.M. me and I will find the thread for you.
Don't worry, your phone is fixable.
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I only use faux123's stock enhanced kernel so it's not that but I think you're right, the battery might be dying from the heat. When I get home I'm going to look up how to charge the battery just from the 3 connectors on the battery and see if that works before I buy another battery. I don't know if that'll fix the problem of the phone not turning on at all unless it's plugged in and then turning off as soon as the charger is disconnected but it's worth a try, I'll let you know.
Thanks for the help!
I actually had a similar situation a few weeks ago.
I had the following set up
-Weekly #3 (CM7)
-Faux's 0.2.1 1.0ghz
-.1.77.30P Radio
I unplugged the phone from charging it (as I do every night) and it went into a bootloop. I honestly hadn't flashed anything new in a week.
I went into recovery and factory reset the device to fix it.
I still don't know what caused this to happen.
My device still overheats quite a bit (gets to ~50 degrees C on the CPU for doing regular things like web browsing). I don't know why it does this.
I received a broken phone that had been shattered pretty bad from one of my bosses. I ended up finding a replacement digitizer/screen/chassis for fairly cheap. 5 days later I received the parts, and assumably the battery was rundown before it was handed to me, so it sat dead for about 5 days while I waited on this part to repair it. I swapped the mainboard and everything looked really good from the broken phone besides the chassis/screen. After I get it together it appears to be doing a bootloop at the HTC Sense screen. I get it into hte bootloader on the next boot. First I did a memory clear, reboot back into bootloader. then accidently while trying to shut it down i selected fastboot. I get it to start one more time and select factory reset. it still gets stuck at htc boot screen with no indication its doing a factory reset. So then finally I shut it off in what appears to be a bootloop, restart it and notice it says "LOW Voltage, please replace battery" So I'm thinking at this point the battery maybe just low and needs charging before trying to do a hard reset. I turn it off again but notice the whole unit is VERY hot, i've never held a phone this hot. Anticipating damage if I let it stay on charger, I pull it off the charger and let it cool. Now I can't get it to boot. While plugged into the A/C adapter I do get a flashing orange light indicating its charging "or trying to" and I leave it on there for a few hours. I've now tried booting it while holding down the power for 10 seconds, over a minute, with volume down and without, many different combinations and it won't boot. I get no lights unless i have it on the A/C power. If I leave it on the charger for over an hour I do get the flashing orange light for a few seconds and then it goes off completely. I called Sprint, they won't sell me a battery because its integrated on this unit. So I called HTC and they want me to ship the whole phone to them, and obviously its out of warranty since I opened it up so now they want $140.00 to fix it and 280.00 if the mainboard has to be replaced. Ouch. I've probably bought over 50 EVO's for our employees on our Sprint Business Account between the Original 4G and the 3D and after seeing this model which one of the owners purchased I have to say that this integrated battery like the stupid iphones is a HUGE disappointment as far as engineering. I tried the 1 minute on A/C power power button holding technique to mimic a battery pull reset, and get nothing. I would never buy this phone for my employees based on the battery problem alone. I've seen batteries killed in a number of scenarios not including just heavy phone usage. I'm still using my original 4G and was going to finally swap to this phone after repairing it. Disappointment doesn't begin to describe this phone. So is the consensus that the battery is dead and I need to get another one by sending it out to HTC? Any other revival tips?
My phone did the flashing orange light when I took it out of the box.
I think you can buy parts online. I'd do a search. If you changed the screen a battery should be cake.
Supposedly only two screws to get to it.
Naters
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Do u have adb tools? If u hook it up does adb recognize it at all? Lazypanda has an unbricker but I sincerely doubt it will work for this. I would be mad if I bought a battery and a bunch of parts just to have them not work bc its the motherboard that needs replaced.
Was the phone dropped in water or from a height of over 10ft? Normal drops may break the screen but the motherboard? Guess it is possible.
Here's what you do, add the phone to your account, add insurance, then next day call assurion make a claim and pay the 100 and have a newly refurbished lte.
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Here's what you do, add the phone to your account, add insurance, then next day call assurion make a claim and pay the 100 and have a newly refurbished lte.
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That would be insurance fraud... and if you make a claim the next day i am pretty sure they would figure it out.
Hey Folks,
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII (SGH-i777) that I used a couple of years ago. It was my first Android phone and I loved it very much (until corporate made me an iSheep).
The phone was retired to a shoe box for the last 1+ years and I recently dug it up so I could get it set up for my little bro who somehow recently fell on his phone with it in his pocket and shattered the screen (don't ask... I don't get it either).
Anyways long story short -- the phone sat idle for a long time, when I pulled it out it wouldn't boot up at all. Assumed that the battery had discharged so I plugged it in to see if it would start up. The battery logo would intermittently flash on the screen and show a drained battery logo but even letting the phone sit for a day did not provide me any results.
Fast forward 3-6 months. Today I replaced the charging board thinking that there was some issue with the USB connector on the phone that was preventing it from getting power. Once that was done I discovered that I was able to get the phone to boot into Odin mode. Great! No boot, no recovery, but download mode seemed to be better than nothing.
I have tried, in vain, to flash stock firmware to this phone via Odin, and even though all indicators point to it being successful, once I finish the Samsung logo comes up on the screen, goes off and that's it. I can see the 4 LEDs on the buttons at the bottom of the phone flash every 5 seconds as well as a faint flicker on the screen staggered between the LED flashes.
Looking for any further suggestions as to what I may be able to try. I have searched various sources on XDA and other sources but I haven't quite found anything that matches my exact symptoms.
Furthermore, I can't be sure what Kernel/ROM I was last running on this phone. Maybe Siyah kernel, maybe CM 10,1 with Flux kernel. Idk.
Any input is appreciated!
Seems I should mention this other detail --
With the battery in, I cannot get into download mode -- it just states 'Low Battery!! Can't Download!!" This is presumably due to the fact that the battery is completely discharged -- maybe incapable of holding a charge but perhaps this is indicative of a more serious hardware failure.
I'd guess the battery is completely shot.
I bought a replacement battery from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111014533334?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
No problems with it.
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I'd guess the battery is completely shot.
I bought a replacement battery from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111014533334?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
No problems with it.
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Very likely --
Since you got me to shift focus here, a quick search is telling me that it won't boot without a battery due to a feedback circuit. This would explain the ability to go into download mode but the lack of boot / flashing LEDs I guess.
Can someone confirm?
If the phone was working normally when it was put away, I would expect it to be working normally when it was pulled it back out. Your story is a little confusing, but did you ever try booting the phone with a fully charged battery? In the circumstances you describe, that would be the first logical trouble shooting step. And if you haven't tried that, then it is still the next logical trouble shooting step. Also, you can't assume that the original battery that you left in the phone is still able to hold a charge. It still may be good, but you can't assume that for testing purposes. Incidentally, the battery should have been pulled from the phone before it was put away.
I do not get any indication that the original battery is actually charging. Charging icon just flashes on the screen briefly in between LED and screen flashes (again, presumably due to the battery being completely dead/incapable of holding a charge since I left it in the phone this entire time).
I guess I'll go ahead and buy another battery and see what happens.
It is my understanding then that this phone will not boot on the charger without battery due to a feedback circuit. Correct?
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I do not get any indication that the original battery is actually charging. Charging icon just flashes on the screen briefly in between LED and screen flashes (again, presumably due to the battery being completely dead/incapable of holding a charge since I left it in the phone this entire time).
I guess I'll go ahead and buy another battery and see what happens.
It is my understanding then that this phone will not boot on the charger without battery due to a feedback circuit. Correct?
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Even if the battery is good, but fully discharged, it may not charge in the phone. You would have to have an external charger. Phones are not consistent, and many phones probably would charge a fully discharged battery, but I have seen a number of people report that a fully discharged battery would cause the exact same behavior as you report. If it were mine, I wouldn't throw the battery away yet.
If you know anyone with an I777, you could borrow their fully charged battery for a few minutes just to see if your phone will boot.
You are correct that the phone will not boot on the charger when the battery is out, although you should be able to successfully flash firmware through Odin with the battery out, and the computer supplying the power, but still, as far as I know, it will not boot after the flash without a working battery.
The battery was indeed at fault. Ordered a new one on Amazon, popped it in and voila -- we're up and running.
Thanks for the input guys! Much appreciated!
My 2 y.o. Verizon Note 2 died the other day. Would boot up but as soon as I unlocked the screen, it would shut down.
I've re-flashed (was using Alliance Build 30 since its release.)
I was finally able to flash it back to Stock using ODIN (I605VRALJB) and it flashes successfully.
Side note - I could charge the battery to 100% by charging from Philz Recovery before I flashed to stock.
Now in stock, it will start to boot but not just shuts down at different points in the boot process.
I don't have spare battery - so I suppose I should try a different battery to see if it is a high current draw fault in the battery but I'm wondering if anyone has ever seen a defective power control circuit on the MOBO. Now that I am at stock and can charge without booting the phone, the charge indicator will repeatedly jump between 100% and 80% (the charge status reported in Philz before flashing back to Stock) with the progress dots moving across the bottom.
Anyone see something like this? I hate to buy a new battery to find out it is a defective phone (will see if I can find one at a Verizion store or BB where I can return). But if it is just a battery, will save me using an upgrade right now (I've got 3 business lines with contracts that expire in the fall and want to do a contract swap rather than an upgrade at this point.)
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I don't have spare battery - so I suppose I should try a different battery
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OK - Batteries are cheap - worth a $12 gamble to avoid replacing the phone at this point. Will see if I can find a local retailer. No mobile phone is a BIG problem for my work.
It was the battery
Stupid battery had gone Tango Uniform. Had the wife pick one up at Batteries+ ($35 not $12 but needed to make some decisions quick with upcoming travel.)
Thankfully I had managed to get a Recovery backup before it completely fell over - so after rerooting, unlocking and such - I'm back in business no worse for the wear.
I realize I answered my own question and am talking to myself - but maybe this will help someone else.
May keep spare battery around for my daily driver from now on.