Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
Lindsay02 said:
Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
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I own a THL W8s because I would like to test a dual sim device. I used to utilize a Samsung S4 and an iPhone 5 but I think the W8s is very good value for money as you pay less than half the price for the other devices. The only thing is when you want to flash another ROM, you will have to spend some time for finding one.
Lindsay02 said:
Hi,
I just ordered THL W8S from a online shopping site. I just want to know whether it is a good bargain or not. I mean is phone good enough (Not good as Samsung and iphone obviously), but does it has a standard configuration to popular. I will appreciate your thoughts and feedbacks. Thank you
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I'll second the vote of confidence for this phone. The MTK6589T 1.5Ghz SoC is a good chip set that is pretty snappy and has good mltimedia capabilities. It also provides for great browsing ability too. This is one of my faves for the Mediatek SoC and the kernel version has been fairly stable on the devices that I have tested as well. I think you will be satisfied with your purchase providing you understand that Chinese goods can be qwerky at times. Good luck with her and enjoy!
Zetvier said:
I own a THL W8s because I would like to test a dual sim device. I used to utilize a Samsung S4 and an iPhone 5 but I think the W8s is very good value for money as you pay less than half the price for the other devices. The only thing is when you want to flash another ROM, you will have to spend some time for finding one.
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I saw a website published a THL W8S ROM. Here: http://www.thlmobilestore.com/news/thl-w8s-firmware/
I don't know this firmware can or not be used.
I am using one.
First if you don't root it, than your GPS is useless.
Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there.
It is good for:
browsing
stand by mode
basic, utility apps
The intermal memory is formatted as the aps has only 3.5Gb available.
Flashing a new ROM can lead to loose the NVRam content: serial number, imeis, mac address an so on.
We have different needs. For me the worse is the Android bug and they don't upgrade to 4.2.2 ... when 4.4 released already...
Using without root: no GPs and ads... is not for me
matheszabi said:
I am using one.
First if you don't root it, than your GPS is useless.
Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there.
It is good for:
browsing
stand by mode
basic, utility apps
The intermal memory is formatted as the aps has only 3.5Gb available.
Flashing a new ROM can lead to loose the NVRam content: serial number, imeis, mac address an so on.
We have different needs. For me the worse is the Android bug and they don't upgrade to 4.2.2 ... when 4.4 released already...
Using without root: no GPs and ads... is not for me
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Thanks for your advice, I'm not using GPS, There are other disadvantages?
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Thanks for your advice, I'm not using GPS, There are other disadvantages?
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"Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there."
3.5Gb for apps. For me is enough now but the other 24 GB is used like the SD card, so the 32GB is like 4GB + 24GB SDCard...good or not, this is.
If you don't need GPS and not need Logcat for development, and don't wan to play 3D games at full resolution, speed, than is the best phone for his price.
Very nice screen, very high resolution.
Utility apps are working
Easy to root with Framaroot. Than set the EPO + gps.conf and you have a resonable gps first fix time too, still weak hardware and work work indoor, just out.
Photos: make with a special photo device with optical zoom and not with this phones, especially on low ligh conditions.
It has whatever Megapixel, but that is for resolution and not for quality.
At daily, sunny weather you can use it to post a picture to Facebook posting, but by far not the photograph quality. I don't use the camera, just tested 3 times. At night with street light full of noise the picture( low light condition)
matheszabi said:
"Second: if you use for development, the logcat will be full of warning messages, bug to an Android 4.2.1 bug.
Third: it is not for games, has low performance there."
3.5Gb for apps. For me is enough now but the other 24 GB is used like the SD card, so the 32GB is like 4GB + 24GB SDCard...good or not, this is.
If you don't need GPS and not need Logcat for development, and don't wan to play 3D games at full resolution, speed, than is the best phone for his price.
Very nice screen, very high resolution.
Utility apps are working
Easy to root with Framaroot. Than set the EPO + gps.conf and you have a resonable gps first fix time too, still weak hardware and work work indoor, just out.
Photos: make with a special photo device with optical zoom and not with this phones, especially on low ligh conditions.
It has whatever Megapixel, but that is for resolution and not for quality.
At daily, sunny weather you can use it to post a picture to Facebook posting, but by far not the photograph quality. I don't use the camera, just tested 3 times. At night with street light full of noise the picture( low light condition)
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So many shortcomings, without any advantage? In fact, I want to have a reason to buy this phone.
For the price is the best what you get!
It can be routed.
It is a nwverlocked.
Oh it is a dial sim: one to have free 3g internet . other sim to be unused - at lest for me
matheszabi said:
For the price is the best what you get!
It can be routed.
It is a nwverlocked.
Oh it is a dial sim: one to have free 3g internet . other sim to be unused - at lest for me
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I'm still waiting for one week, THL will launch THL T100 eight-core phone. But the price has not been determined.
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I'm still waiting for one week, THL will launch THL T100 eight-core phone. But the price has not been determined.
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From 4 core on this phone 2 is sleeping, almost always.
THIS PHONE ARE NOT FOR GAMES.
from 8 core you will have 6-7 sleeping, but you must pay the price for 8.
Smart idea to buyt a 32 core phone, to have 30 core sleeping
So many money thrown away why don't buy an Original S4? !
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From 4 core on this phone 2 is sleeping, almost always.
THIS PHONE ARE NOT FOR GAMES.
from 8 core you will have 6-7 sleeping, but you must pay the price for 8.
Smart idea to buyt a 32 core phone, to have 30 core sleeping
So many money thrown away why don't buy an Original S4? !
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Because I want to buy a cheap phone.
There are other cheaper phones recommend?
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There are other cheaper phones recommend?
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Actually, when I bought I was looking for " Samsung galaxy S4 alternative"
Now if you want you can search for "Samsung Galaxy note 3 alternative".
I would recommend this as a cheap phone, if you don't mind routing to have the GPS ( believe me you will need it at least twice in a year and never say "never". The gorila glass 3 is really nice. The Android 4..2.1 will be changed once and at 4.2.2 it isn't that bug, you can find here a custom rom with "... sony ericcson heart" for this phone. I have checked and that has other nice features for developers: GUI debugging.
For gaming take an original Note 3!
Usually it is used only 1 core at at around 500 MHz. The 4 core or 32 core is just an extra price, still lower than S4, but still unused.
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Actually, when I bought I was looking for " Samsung galaxy S4 alternative"
Now if you want you can search for "Samsung Galaxy note 3 alternative".
I would recommend this as a cheap phone, if you don't mind routing to have the GPS ( believe me you will need it at least twice in a year and never say "never". The gorila glass 3 is really nice. The Android 4..2.1 will be changed once and at 4.2.2 it isn't that bug, you can find here a custom rom with "... sony ericcson heart" for this phone. I have checked and that has other nice features for developers: GUI debugging.
For gaming take an original Note 3!
Usually it is used only 1 core at at around 500 MHz. The 4 core or 32 core is just an extra price, still lower than S4, but still unused.
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I checked on the Internet for more information about this phone, the phone is very good, but size is a little big, samsung has a small size cheap mobile phone? (4.3 to 4.7 Inch)
I didn't find the right phone.
Great phone! Using it for 4 months and i love it!!!
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Great phone! Using it for 4 months and i love it!!!
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hi, i would like to ask, have you tried the set ringtone to specific contacts? I bought w8s 2 days ago, and my contact ringtone won't work. The default ringtone is still the one that "ring/play". I also tried using Ringo app, but only the text tone is successful. Ringing tone is still default ringing tone.. Another thing is the profile picture of the contacts does not show when they are calling.. but it shows on messaging.
Im just wondering if i might have missed something, or the phone's calling feature is defective.
thank you in advance...
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Does samsung really expect anyone to take them seriously when they charge over $260 for only 8Gb of storage. And a horrible resolution for the screensize.
There has to be some major alaising going on in most apps and games.
I want one really bad but not with only 8GB of storage.
Christ i can use that just in apps let alone music.
My one saving grace here is that i have a nice 32GB mSDCard not being used.
Really makes me mad that us cellular is in no hurry to bring the SG II to us customers. I guess maybe this will suffice until they do.
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- are you happy you got it even though you probably already have an android phone?
- Are you killing your phone battery because you are tethering the player to your phone because its a nicer device to use for surfing, email, apps, games?
yeah, Im thinking about getting this player, but I might wait for the Galaxy Note, 5.3" super amoled I think plus easy removable battery. I dont mind carrying a battery or two in my bag
The Note is a phone not a tablet though.
So unless it comes to your Carrier you will be forking over some huge ol dollar bills for it.
I bet 600-700 or more.
I just received the 5.0 player ($30 less at Amazon), and now that I have it, I would have paid $260. IMO 5" is much better than 7" for portability (fits pocket). I have an Optimus-V phone that is just too small. The SGP5 gets me a nice 5" display, FM radio, "tons" more space than my phone (I have my phone rooted, but still there's only about 100mb left for apps... this thing has like 1.5gb for apps).... I still have 1gB after "filling it up". I added a 16gB card ($15), so I have 22gB free. My OV tethers to it in 5-10 seconds (I don't plan on using that much since I have wifi at home and work). I have no cell service at home, so the SGP5 on wifi with GrooveIP takes care of most of my phone needs. Sound quality is as good as most of the other larger tablets... no regrets whatsoever. Eventually, I'll probably go back to the VM Paylo plan at $5/mo... and all my needs will be met for $5/mo.
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I just received the 5.0 player ($30 less at Amazon), and now that I have it, I would have paid $260. IMO 5" is much better than 7" for portability (fits pocket). I have an Optimus-V phone that is just too small. The SGP5 gets me a nice 5" display, FM radio, "tons" more space than my phone (I have my phone rooted, but still there's only about 100mb left for apps... this thing has like 1.5gb for apps).... I still have 1gB after "filling it up". I added a 16gB card ($15), so I have 22gB free. My OV tethers to it in 5-10 seconds (I don't plan on using that much since I have wifi at home and work). I have no cell service at home, so the SGP5 on wifi with GrooveIP takes care of most of my phone needs. Sound quality is as good as most of the other larger tablets... no regrets whatsoever. Eventually, I'll probably go back to the VM Paylo plan at $5/mo... and all my needs will be met for $5/mo.
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tcat thanks for that well written reply. thats the kind of stuff i want to hear.
along with any bad too bud i really doubt there is much bad to say aside from low storage and maybe resolution.
what do you think about the low resolution on that big of a screen?
are you seeing much jaggies or poor graphics where as your phone or other device may look better ?
Just got the Player 5 for $229.00 at Best Buy (check their on line store). Amazon had it for $229 too but now it's back up to $260. I would wait cause I think it is going to go back on sale soon.
I also thought about the Galaxy Note but it is going to be much more expensive OR you will need to have a cell contract with it. I got the Player to ditch my cell phone and make calls via Google Voice/Groove IP. I was a little worried about screen quality too but so far the screen quality has been fine - everything looks really good. Downloaded a game called Air Attack (or something like that) - a side scroller with WWII planes - and the graphics are impressive. Can't see how the graphics could be any better. Video, Angry Birds, etc. all look great.
Only downside so far is I thought the battery was user replaceable on the 5.0 - turns out it is only user replaceable on the 4.0. Hopefully, being a geek, I'll find a way to do it myself. That and I hope the custom roms become available for it.
Pardon my ignorance. I just stumbled upon this thread from new posts on the xda app on my phone. Is this sgp a tablet? What version of Android is it running?
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macjr82 said:
Pardon my ignorance. I just stumbled upon this thread from new posts on the xda app on my phone. Is this sgp a tablet? What version of Android is it running?
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Technically no it is an mp3 player.
But because it is a fully functional android device it has web browsing email and all the normal android goodies found on a phone (minus the phone, texting and good accurate gps, etc.)
Some people call it a tablet because it's 5 inches but in my eyes it's not even remotely close to a tablet
it does have gps but like all tablets without a cellular contract you have to be on wifi for it to work.and its not as accurate.
its a marketing/selling point. not something that is really very useful unless you can get on wifi and need directions to somewhere.
"Low" is all relative. Not like an Ipod, but my Dell PC screen is about 125dpi, this is like 180dpi. My Optimus-V is 160dpi. Some apps show jaggies worse than others (maybe not optimized for 800x480).. but overall it's very nice. Depends a lot on font also. The font in the Market really sucks, but system fonts aren't bad. I posted this on another forum, so far what my home screen looks like: (it's not quite as crisp as this, but isn't far off)
(Digi Clock Widget, Battery Status Text, Widgetsoid2 widgets)
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tcat thanks for that well written reply. thats the kind of stuff i want to hear.
along with any bad too bud i really doubt there is much bad to say aside from low storage and maybe resolution.
what do you think about the low resolution on that big of a screen?
are you seeing much jaggies or poor graphics where as your phone or other device may look better ?
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Doubts? Visit a store. Do not rely on reviews.
"Are you killing your phone battery because you are tethering the player to your phone because its a nicer device to use for surfing, email, apps, games?"
False.
At least in the case of the Galaxy i5500 that I use. No. It does not consume the battery.
Understand that when using the Galaxy i5500 so it stays in stanby. The battery is not consumed to any processing.
About resolution: it is great. Doubt? go to a store and test. If I had not done that maybe would not have bought and would be losing a good device like him.
About GPS: Yes, It works great. There are videos on Youtube with the G70 Galaxy 5.0 this function attached to a carrier. See for yourself.
About Tablet: Check the specifications of the 1010 Galaxy Tablet Wifi. You will see that the G70 is the same but with 5 ".
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"its a marketing / selling point. something that is really not very useful unless you Can get on wifi and need directions to somewhere."
I totally disagree. Extremely useful. But ... Still do not understand. You bought and regretted it because it was not useful or is just being subjective?
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"Low" is all relative. Not like an Ipod, but my Dell PC screen is about 125dpi, this is like 180dpi. My Optimus-V is 160dpi. Some apps show jaggies worse than others (maybe not optimized for 800x480).. but overall it's very nice. Depends a lot on font also. The font in the Market really sucks, but system fonts aren't bad. I posted this on another forum, so far what my home screen looks like: (it's not quite as crisp as this, but isn't far off)
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I want that wallpaper! Where can I find it?
Zedge, I believe I searched "Android". Enter your player so it determines your screen size, and all kinds of cool wallpapers show up. Here's my 2nd screen:
(three shortcut icons, smooth calendar, Jeannie)
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I want that wallpaper! Where can I find it?
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Nice to know that GrooVeIP works. Does anyone know if offline GPS software like Navigon or Copilot works? I'm EXTREMELY tempted to grab a GP5.0, especially with a $25 amazon coupon I have to lower the price even more.
The price is now $199 on Amazon for the 4.0
754boy said:
Nice to know that GrooVeIP works. Does anyone know if offline GPS software like Navigon or Copilot works? I'm EXTREMELY tempted to grab a GP5.0, especially with a $25 amazon coupon I have to lower the price even more.
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Copilot works ok, aside from the bugs present in the app.
I brought this from BestBuy for $239.00 with 8gb SD thown in for free but I already had a 16gb card.. So far I'm liking it I like the size of the screen for when I'm watching movies. Shadowgun runs well on it better than running it on my Kindle Fire for some reason. Love that I can use it has a phone with GrooVe IP and Google Voice install no drop calls a call quality has been very clear. Netflix runs well colors look a little wash out but it doesn't take away from watching a movie/tv show. Splashtop App works fine so if there is movie or music or wanting to watch hulu just remote into my computer. It starts a little jumpy but once it gets going works really fine. I use my Thunderbolt to tether to device.
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ADR USR said:
"Are you killing your phone battery because you are tethering the player to your phone because its a nicer device to use for surfing, email, apps, games?"
False.
At least in the case of the Galaxy i5500 that I use. No. It does not consume the battery.
Understand that when using the Galaxy i5500 so it stays in stanby. The battery is not consumed to any processing.
About resolution: it is great. Doubt? go to a store and test. If I had not done that maybe would not have bought and would be losing a good device like him.
About GPS: Yes, It works great. There are videos on Youtube with the G70 Galaxy 5.0 this function attached to a carrier. See for yourself.
About Tablet: Check the specifications of the 1010 Galaxy Tablet Wifi. You will see that the G70 is the same but with 5 ".
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"its a marketing / selling point. something that is really not very useful unless you Can get on wifi and need directions to somewhere."
I totally disagree. Extremely useful. But ... Still do not understand. You bought and regretted it because it was not useful or is just being subjective?
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i am being subjective because no tablet or tablet like device has a working GPS without a data connection.
several tablets like the acer iconia and asus transformer tried to make GPS work without a WiFi connection and it just doesnt work. the gPS needs a data connection in order to transmit and receive the data, mostly the map data but also for general functionality of the gPS.
you can alter the gPS config file to use different servers which help but in general without a wifi connection it is very very innaccurate and slow, taking 10 minutes or more to lock on.
now if you are in the USA and are telling me that the GPS on the Galaxy 5 is different and that it locks onto your location, is very quick (like it locks on in a minute or less) and is accurate with its location of where you are (within 10 meters, lets say. then i will retract my statement about GPS being useless with out a WiFi connection. - remember i said that you have to do with without a GPS connection, otherwise the GPS is useless because you will have to be around some sort of wifi, be it your phone hotspot, or something else.
and if you have to use your phone wifi hotspot then you might as well just use your phone.
as for everything else, then i am sorry i really dont understand what you were saying other than the screen resolution looking nice.
which i agree it does from the few times i have played with it in best buy. but i did not watch a movie or really play a game outside of angry birds lol.
i may go grab one from best buy tonight isnce its on sale for $236 but i just hate returning things, even if i dont like it, i want to do as much research as i can before i (may) waste anyones time.
also with regards to your statement
Understand that when using the Galaxy i5500 so it stays in stanby. The battery is not consumed to any processing.
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that is absolutely false and especially if you have tethering turned on. it uses alot of battery to tether.
just because the screen is off doesnt mean its in standby. if it were in standby then tethering would not work.
the screen shut off thats all.
everything else is still running because tethering is active.
the cpu will probably throttle but only if it can.
if your tethering uses to much CPU then it will force the CPU to stay at a higher freq. and use up alot of battery.
plus the wifi and cellular chipsets are running full steam, so again, its just killing the battery.
what i meant to ask was... ."are you using it alot tethered to your phone, and thus killing your phones battery life?" meaning, recharging it alot sooner because normally would would not be tethering it.
I have Copilot Live Standard USA installed on my Galaxy S WiFi 5.0 and it works great. Used it for a half a dozen trips already. GPS locks on quickly (about 15-20 seconds). And because Copilot stores maps on the device, I don't need to have a connection to the internet. Routes get calculated quickly and if I deviate from the route, it recalculates quickly. This actually picks up my location and calculates routes quicker than my dedicated TomTom GPS (but its a few years old). The nice 5 inch screen makes it real nice for use as a GPS as well. This also seems to be vary accurate on my location and again it seems more accurate than my TomTom ever was.
marcusmarcus said:
I have Copilot Live Standard USA installed on my Galaxy S WiFi 5.0 and it works great. Used it for a half a dozen trips already. GPS locks on quickly (about 15-20 seconds). And because Copilot stores maps on the device, I don't need to have a connection to the internet. Routes get calculated quickly and if I deviate from the route, it recalculates quickly. This actually picks up my location and calculates routes quicker than my dedicated TomTom GPS (but its a few years old). The nice 5 inch screen makes it real nice for use as a GPS as well. This also seems to be vary accurate on my location and again it seems more accurate than my TomTom ever was.
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Nice. Are you able to store the map on the external_sd and if so, how did you do it?
v_lestat said:
i am being subjective because no tablet or tablet like device has a working GPS without a data connection.
several tablets like the acer iconia and asus transformer tried to make GPS work without a WiFi connection and it just doesnt work. the gPS needs a data connection in order to transmit and receive the data, mostly the map data but also for general functionality of the gPS.
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This has not been my experience with the YP-G70. I use Sygic which is a standalone car navigation app. It works well and doesn't need wifi. It is true that if GPS has not been used for a while then the first fix can take a few minutes. However, after that, fixes occur in well under a minute. I wonder if you have tried a standalone GPS app on the YP-G70 and failed to get it to work, or whether you are basing your statements only on experience with other devices.
Hello . So I've wanted a smart device for a while, and It looks like the galaxy Player 4.0 will be able to fill that gap quite nicely, when I have enough money to get one in a couple of months. Anyway, what I was wondering is if you guys have any tips for me about buying, or just about using the player. I'm thinking about buying from amazon, along with an invisible shield for the screen and a case by Ringke. Also, I've set up a Google voice account to use with GrooveIP to get a sort of WiFi phone thing going on. I'll have to test it, but I think it will work. Suggestions / tips / warnings?
-Thanks!
P.S. I'm hoping by the time I get the player, team SuperNova will have a daily usable version of their ICS port (Right now it has no deep sleep, so low on battery life).
(After seeing custom themes, I've been making a mock up in GIMP, but I can't post the link as I have less than 10 posts)
Go on ebay and u can find lots of cheaper cases for sale around 3-7USD.
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Just be sure its already a 2.3.6 version. Mine stucks at 2.2.2 nd git problem on connecting kies
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Just be sure its already a 2.3.6 version. Mine stucks at 2.2.2 nd git problem on connecting kies
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Interesting. Amazon lists it as 2.3.5
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Just be sure its already a 2.3.6 version. Mine stucks at 2.2.2 nd git problem on connecting kies
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Like the poster above me, i thought the SGP 4.0 came with at least 2.3.5? Mine did. Also, can't you use the OTA update via settings=>About Deviice=>software update?
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Like the poster above me, i thought the SGP 4.0 came with at least 2.3.5? Mine did. Also, can't you use the OTA update via settings=>About Deviice=>software update?
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It depends of the device variant. His is an internationnal one so it came with 2.2.2 or 2.2.1. He needs to use odin or heimdall to update his player.
The groove ip app looks good. I haven't tried it because google voice isn't available in my country.
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ps2owner said:
Hello . So I've wanted a smart device for a while, and It looks like the galaxy Player 4.0 will be able to fill that gap quite nicely, when I have enough money to get one in a couple of months. Anyway, what I was wondering is if you guys have any tips for me about buying, or just about using the player. I'm thinking about buying from amazon, along with an invisible shield for the screen and a case by Ringke. Also, I've set up a Google voice account to use with GrooveIP to get a sort of WiFi phone thing going on. I'll have to test it, but I think it will work. Suggestions / tips / warnings?
-Thanks!
P.S. I'm hoping by the time I get the player, team SuperNova will have a daily usable version of their ICS port (Right now it has no deep sleep, so low on battery life).
(After seeing custom themes, I've been making a mock up in GIMP, but I can't post the link as I have less than 10 posts)
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All I have to say is don't buy a Ringke case. I had mine for exactly 3 months, and on the upper left and right hand corners it ripped lol. I suggest getting a TPU gel case or HIGHLY recommend getting a Nillkin case seen here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nillkin-Sof...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3a79b544cb. They both cost about half the price of the Ringke case and are way better in terms of durability. All I have to say is make sure that the screen protector you choose fits. Mines I had to trim a bit off lol, but it is reusable (water install) so that is fine.
I can vouch that GrooveIP and Google Voice work very well on this device. I use it as a wifi phone all the time. At college it connects to the internet easily and calls are clear and loud. I can text using the Google Voice app too so it is all good. My only issue with this device is the limited ram. So if you have too many apps open be prepared to deal with some extreme lag. So I suggest having like 1-3 open at a time, and going to task manager and closing out the ones you are not using.
guys help i tried odin nd kies but it doesnt detect my sgs player even i installed usb driver.. whats the possible problem?
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Don't get the 4.0
My advice get the 5.0 more deb support and a ton more real estate for games and movies, I know youll say it's only for music but you WILL use it for more, just do yourself a great favor and get the 5.0
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On weather to get the 4.0 or 5.0
Reventon319 said:
My advice get the 5.0 more deb support and a ton more real estate for games and movies, I know youll say it's only for music but you WILL use it for more, just do yourself a great favor and get the 5.0
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My main concern about the 5.0 is the larger screen is the same resolution as the 4.0. Does the DPI/pixel resolution look good on it?
ps2owner said:
My main concern about the 5.0 is the larger screen is the same resolution as the 4.0. Does the DPI/pixel resolution look good on it?
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I can't exactly remember how it looked, but it wasn't really bad. If you're used to some of the newer Amoled displays on the high end Samsung devices, you might not think it's very good, but I do know that the 4.0 screen IMO looks great, I loved it. I own a Galaxy S2, and I honestly couldn't tell any real difference from just glancing at them.
Well, I guess I'll wait till I buy to decide whether to get the 4.0 or the 5.0. If hanthesolo's build is far enough along. (HW acceleration/Deep sleep)
ps2owner said:
My main concern about the 5.0 is the larger screen is the same resolution as the 4.0. Does the DPI/pixel resolution look good on it?
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the galaxy player 5.0 has the same resolution and stock build.prop dpi setting as the 4.0 but the 5.0 has a lower physical ppi.
I've got the 5.0, and you can see the pixels if you look for them, but it's not bad. If you plan on using the micro sd card slot a lot, the 5.0 has easier access I think (I Belle the 4.0 has to go through the battery panel). The screen size is great for sharing text and video, letting two or more people see it with ease. My wife has regularly preferred top read off my player than her Samsung Stratosphere.
As far as a case, I'm not sure you need one. I've had mine since February, and while it's taken some heavy falls, the worst it has to show is a little marring of the plastic where it hit the concrete and a hairline crack in that corner. (You really have to squint to see the crack).
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I can vouch that GrooveIP and Google Voice work very well on this device. I use it as a wifi phone all the time. At college it connects to the internet easily and calls are clear and loud. I can text using the Google Voice app too so it is all good. My only issue with this device is the limited ram. So if you have too many apps open be prepared to deal with some extreme lag. So I suggest having like 1-3 open at a time, and going to task manager and closing out the ones you are not using.
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Just piggybacking off what Obscuresword said. Google Voice is fantastic on the Galaxy Player. GrooveIP sounds better on my end than my cell phone, but I have heard some callers complain that I echo and no amount of playing with the settings has changed that. Also, he is spot on when mentioning the multi-tasking. For a device that no one really cares about it can do some pretty amazing stuff...but when it gets bogged down don't expect any amount of snappiness whatsoever. It was sold as a media player and has barebones hardware to match that description. This is no SGIII.
Knocks on the hardware aside the end result is this: I leave a dumb phone in my car(for emergencies) and take my 4.0 with me wherever I go.
I have a 5.0 and my dad has a 4.0 and here are the differences.
5.0 has more battery life than the 4.0 and usually lasts longer.
The sound chip on the 4.0 is much nicer than the one of the 5.0.
Both of them can do the same job, although I would suggest using LCD Resolution to make it look better.
You have two speakers on the 5.0 rather than the 4.0.
That aside, the main difference is the form factor which can turn some people off. My local best buy has the 4.2 and 5.0 on display so I would suggest going there to see how big they are. The 4.2 is like the 4.0 only with a newer Android OS 2.3.7?. That adds docking features and updates some of the Google Apps but nothing big.
I would suggest getting case and screen protector when you can get it. They help a lot. Also check out the roms and kernels and see what you like. That might persuade you one way or another. I wouldn't suggest the 3.5 as its screen resolution is bad but its very small.
Apps
Groove IP/Google Voice (You can make calls on your tablet)
HeyWire (txting app)
With these two you have mostly a phone, except it can't get on 3g networks and the like.
Titanium Backup Very useful since you can downgrade your apps, make backups of your apps and freeze system ones that you don't really use without uninstalling them.
PowerAMP Great music app that I use. I love it but try it before you buy it.
Hope this helps.
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If you plan on using the micro sd card slot a lot, the 5.0 has easier access I think (I Belle the 4.0 has to go through the battery panel).
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I've pledged for developers edition, this looks fantastic, tethered or standalone.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa
SPECIFICATIONS:
Dual Core Cortex A7 – 1.3GHz
Omate UI 1.0 / Android 4.2.2
1.54’’ TFT by LG display (240 x 240) 238 PPI
Multi-touch Capacitive Touch Screen
Connectivity capabilities:
+ 2G GSM: GPRS class 12 EDGE Multi-Slot Class 12
+ 3G WCDMA: HSPA 7.2Mbps/5.76Mbps
+ WiFi: IEEE 802.11b/g/n
+ Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
Embedded 5Mpixel camera
Audio Speaker & Microphone
Memory: 512MB + 4GB + (expandable by microSD 8/16/32GB) 1GB ram as extra $20 upgrade
Micro SIM card
600 mAh battery: up to 100 hours standby time
Messaging Hub: SMS/MMS/Email/SNS
G-sensor, E-Compass, Gyroscope, IP67
Vibration alert
Full set of pre-qualified Android applications, Playstore soon i hope!
Over-the-Air (OTA) system firmware update
The TS Guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510696
mcteague said:
I've pledged for developers edition, this looks fantastic, tethered or standalone.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa
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It looks awesome! The only thing I see that I don't like is the battery. "Up to 100 hours standby time" is only 4 days without any use at all... so more than likely, it'll be a "charge every day" appliance, again.
ClearD said:
It looks awesome! The only thing I see that I don't like is the battery. "Up to 100 hours standby time" is only 4 days without any use at all... so more than likely, it'll be a "charge every day" appliance, again.
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Yeah the jury is still out on that one, good thing is they're taking suggestions on for final design. I drive a van all day so handsfree answering etc is great and when I'm delivering shopping to the 17th floor it's great to have a phone with me. Only time will tell but funding is going great.
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Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
ronaldheld said:
Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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I'll add both to my smartwatch comparison website when they officially release, with all the specs and stuff.
My thing is they are evading any question about the thickness, which means it will probably be THICK. Their videos seem to confirm that.
This looks very promising. Videos of physical units is great, I believe they are good on their promise. At $200, sure, I've backed a developers unit. I'll report back in October =P
ronaldheld said:
Looks promising. Someone sbould compare it to the Neptune pine. I am convinced that I want a standalone smartwatch not one tethered
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I think IP67 certification is main difference and jellybean over ICS. But Neptune 's got an extra 1inch on screen size.
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I have pledged to developer Edition too and hope that are the preloaded apps from the basic edition are available for the development edition over the website or omate appshop.
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More info in first post would be useful.
Like my thread here:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ew-omate-truesmart-smartwatch-20-kickstarter/
You can copy mine if you want.
LOL
All I have to say is smile
Delano.888 said:
More info in first post would be useful.
Like my thread here:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ew-omate-truesmart-smartwatch-20-kickstarter/
You can copy mine if you want.
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Just to reply to your question in that other thread (makes no sense for me to register in there just for that) - why Pebble got 10M while Omate only at 350k? Pebble was an early bird and had a great marketing. I personally use MetaWatch (STRATA and FRAME) and can't imagine going through a day without a smart watch since my Note 2 stays in my pocket and I get all my notifications right on my wrist (thanks to Augments Pro app), I never miss calls anymore, I can control my UE Boom speaker while in the pool under water from my watch, and so on MetaWatch was one of the first out of the door, but poor marketing and software support brought it down. On the other hand Pebble had a brilliant marketing technique, raised a lot of money, sold a lot of units which enables them to hire more software developers or enjoy benefits of free apps developed by others. What came next? Agent SmartWatch (wireless charging), Kreyos Meteor (gesture control), HOT Smartwatch (talking by placing your hand to your ear), and so on. Now market is saturated with all kinds of smartwatches, people are getting confused. Oh, and on top of that - on Sept 4th Samsung will announce Gear (and that is confirmed by Samsung, also with Note 3 introduction). Plus, quite possible on Sept 10th Apple could announce iWatch.
Omate kickstarter campaign has a very bad timing being right in the middle of all these smartwatch announcements. Plain and simple. Especially anticipation of Samsung Gear which took away a lot of momentum from Omate.
But with all that said, I think the idea of Omate is fantastic. There is no room for a phone when you go to the gym or biking or active outdoors. That would be a perfect solution to take out sim card from your phone and load into a watch while leaving my Note 2 at home. Or continue using it tethered at work where it will function as a regular smart watch.
One thing I'm confused, on their kickstarter page they say "3G mono" while you have it listed in your post as 3G CDMA. I'm on Verizon, and do need CDMA. Hopefully it will support it.
vectron said:
Just to reply to your question in that other thread (makes no sense for me to register in there just for that) - why Pebble got 10M while Omate only at 350k? Pebble was an early bird and had a great marketing. I personally use MetaWatch (STRATA and FRAME) and can't imagine going through a day without a smart watch since my Note 2 stays in my pocket and I get all my notifications right on my wrist (thanks to Augments Pro app), I never miss calls anymore, I can control my UE Boom speaker while in the pool under water from my watch, and so on MetaWatch was one of the first out of the door, but poor marketing and software support brought it down. On the other hand Pebble had a brilliant marketing technique, raised a lot of money, sold a lot of units which enables them to hire more software developers or enjoy benefits of free apps developed by others. What came next? Agent SmartWatch (wireless charging), Kreyos Meteor (gesture control), HOT Smartwatch (talking by placing your hand to your ear), and so on. Now market is saturated with all kinds of smartwatches, people are getting confused. Oh, and on top of that - on Sept 4th Samsung will announce Gear (and that is confirmed by Samsung, also with Note 3 introduction). Plus, quite possible on Sept 10th Apple could announce iWatch.
Omate kickstarter campaign has a very bad timing being right in the middle of all these smartwatch announcements. Plain and simple. Especially anticipation of Samsung Gear which took away a lot of momentum from Omate.
But with all that said, I think the idea of Omate is fantastic. There is no room for a phone when you go to the gym or biking or active outdoors. That would be a perfect solution to take out sim card from your phone and load into a watch while leaving my Note 2 at home. Or continue using it tethered at work where it will function as a regular smart watch.
One thing I'm confused, on their kickstarter page they say "3G mono" while you have it listed in your post as 3G CDMA. I'm on Verizon, and do need CDMA. Hopefully it will support it.
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I have 2 numbers but only change them about when I'm nrarlyvout of mobile data, but this watch means I can use both at the sometime using watch for emailing, texting and calls and my Z Ultra for gaming reading etc.
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I am drooling for this watch.
But i hope they change the design. Like the motoactv i'd like a detachable watch face for bike mounts, arm strap etc.
The 3G CDMA is a real spec? Most of the newer smartwatches seem to support GSM.
ronaldheld said:
The 3G CDMA is a real spec? Most of the newer smartwatches seem to support GSM.
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Just had to Google that as you got me worried but found out 3G is part of CDMA. phew!
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Update:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ter-resistant-standalone-smartwa/posts/581467
The specs in the OP are all GSM, from what I can see. 3G is not just CDMA.
Backed the Dev version.
Received the flashing tool, drivers, and a SN Write Tool earlier today, Which also included an NDA Agreement.
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Backed the Dev version.
Received the flashing tool, drivers, and a SN Write Tool earlier today, Which also included an NDA Agreement.
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That's cool let the developing begin!
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Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core, MTK6572w (Not the 6577)
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
My interest is high. I would buy if it had kk and some improvements in hardware.
Perhaps if MediaTek is participating with the Android One initiative we will see better support? Dunno what the board specs are so who really knows.
http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-eve...-affordable-smartphones-for-emerging-markets/
But yes, I would buy it right now if it had a slight hardware bump and KK.
Couldn't agree more! But in the end, the TS was a first. Technology firsts don't have the greatest of track records. Of the standalones available or coming available, ie Gear S, AI Watch and various no name SZ offerings, this is the only decent possibility. IMHO
Yes, if it has KK, Bluetooth low energy, all the previous flaky bluetooth issues are fixed, speakerphone call quality is improved and my biggest issue, battery and SIM shouldn't need a screw driver to get at, make it easy, it isn't water proof and doesnt need to be
mghtymse007 said:
Just got note from my contact at Umeox that they are ready to produce a new version of SmartWatch. It takes after the general look and size of the existing x201 series, but adds some nicely upgraded features that are enticing.
As always, nothing I have is 100% confirmed... but rumors usually are typically nothing but just premature facts.
The watch will have:
1.2 - 1.4MHz dual core
Full Android KitKat 4.4
320x320 LG display, 1.54" - 1.6"
Will be branded as a Umeox
1G/8G (up to 64Gb)
US GSM, 850mhz 2G and 1900mhz 3G
Wi-Fi b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
5.0M Camera
720p HD video
IP68 water worthiness
OTA updates
So far, they have yet to receive enough orders to produce the first 500 units, currently short by only 100, and have asked me to post a poll and see how much interest there is for a device like this on this side of the world...
Initial reports show this watch will sell for less or the same as the TS.
So question of the day...
1. What is your interest level on a device that would have the above specifications? What would you like to see added or changed?
2. Would you buy this watch if the above specs are true, value pricing and is branded under Umeox with their support?
I'll go first...
YES and yes!!!
For me, one of my bigger complaints about my TS is the poor resolution of the screen. I think the added dpi will be extremely helpful in reading some of the smaller text in some third party apps. Also the failed waterproof design of the TS has me constantly in fear of loss doing menial H2O activities and is totally unacceptable.
Competitors or alike devices
I was looking at the Gear S due to it's beautiful curved, hi-res screen... But TIZEN....! Come on, Sammy, stop trying to become Apple and create your own ecosystem!
This has put my and my techy friend's interest in the AI Watch on the back burner and would rather have these specs. We all would very much like to see this one make it to the US market... Please give your comments.
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This is the x201 specs, except for the screen and uC. I do not see the use for a 320x320 1,6'' screen. Maybe a 320x240 2'' (same width). I do not follow 6577 instead of 6572: More power required (40nm vs 28nm) and I see low need for faster CPU.
Umeox branding is fine - the company that can just not disappear without loosing credibility.
However, the specs are OK, it could be interesting.
But the most important is in the details:
* Thickness/weight?
* Auto-focus on camera? (Why 5MP....)
* Control of kernel and Android at Umeox? Quality of drivers? Follow the GPL? Work with the community? Android updates?
* HW reliability? Real or fake IP68?
There are alternatives already. Personally, I want a sports device with barometer and preferably ANT+ too, nothing there yet.
However, I will pass on this one until the commitment to live up to the specs can be believed, the track record is not too good (I still believe Omate had good intentions).
Edit: Getting stable ROM and usable kernel source for existing x201 is one way to make me interested.
Yes
I think I would like my TS if its touchscreen was not defective. I will be trying again with some type of stand alone phone swatch. not interested in a BT dongle watch.
Interested in the PCB, components and full source code. Then build these instead;
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kuronosan said:
My interest is low, because this is the device backers should have received.
If I can trade old devices for it, I'd be happy to.
Otherwise, no. The interest is clearly there but not for what I paid at KS price for the TS1.
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I agree with you on this. I bought the Extreme Edition of the watch. If they would let me trade in my current one for, at least, some credit towards buying the new one, it would be nice.
I would be interested.... Support would be my biggest concern... The TS does everything I need it to do. I had no designs on it replacing my phone other than when running... Beyond that, it's a glorified iPod for me so it works as intended... My issue with it is that if the band breaks or it has some other problem, there's little to nothing that can be done about it. I wear it everyday and so far it's held up but I'm sure it's only a matter of time...
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
perpe said:
I can't believe that the specs are right.
MT6577 is a 40 nm CPU from 2012. Should be a very bad option for a smartwatch with small battery. Long time ago since I saw new devices with that CPU. Most of them had ICS, only a few get updated to Jellybean (4.1). I don't know any mt6577 device with Kitkat.
Other Chinese smartphone manufactures switched to other CPU to ship their devices with a more recent Android Version. I thought mt6577 was EOL.
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You are correct. After a quick confirmation, he was mistaken in his first spec list. The CPU is going to be:
MTK6572w
I just got the full spec sheet from Umeox. I'll check if I can post publicly.
Will change OP, thanks for heads up.
Sometimes tapa is slower than me...
speedyink said:
The upgraded screen is a definite plus for me. As said before, the CPU is kind of old...if it was styled more like the Omate I'd be interested. I prefer the look of the Omate to pretty much any of the other watches based off the x201.
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Agreed on the styling... I have had strangers ask about it because they liked the style of the Omate.
The Iron Man is the x202.
1. I would need dimension: width, height and thickness ... some are far too big and thick to wear.
2. Battery life!?
3. Loads of sensors ...barometer, compass. ..etc. with sensors it can compete with other sport watches.
4. What assurances can they give that they will keep their promise?
I mean we can all show our interest but we're not obliged to order so yes I'm interested with the same conviction as the supplier.
MT6572 - the same (or similar) processor as the InWatch Z, interesting, with MediaTek MiraVision.
Sounds relatively interesting-whether I would actually shell out hard cash is another thing altogether.
Still finding little niggles with my TS-so just a bit wary.
water resistent? Strap changeable? scratch protection? If no, there is no reason to change from my Omate and Simvalley AW420...
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So if 500 orders are made then what happens? What are the nexts steps?
I have the HP CB X2 giving it a try.
Nice build, keyboard, screen and detachable. Tablet is light. Keyboard is heavy. Linux support added = awesome.
I find that 4GB of ram is way low. //: system internals constantly show at 90% used. Even when I close all but one tab, still loaded. No lag in performance though.
The device does have 4MB of cache which helps. I also set up zram at 2GB.
Even so, I am returning today. I can't get my head around purchasing a device and the ram is already maxed.
I will buy another as Chrome OS 70 has nailed correcting issues I couldn't live with before. (Pixelbook i5 on sale?)
Thoughts on Chrome OS memory usage appreciated. Maybe I just don't understand.
My experience with HP CB X2
johninsf said:
I have the HP CB X2 giving it a try.
Nice build, keyboard, screen and detachable. Tablet is light. Keyboard is heavy. Linux support added = awesome.
I find that 4GB of ram is way low. //: system internals constantly show at 90% used. Even when I close all but one tab, still loaded. No lag in performance though.
The device does have 4MB of cache which helps. I also set up zram at 2GB.
Even so, I am returning today. I can't get my head around purchasing a device and the ram is already maxed.
I will buy another as Chrome OS 70 has nailed correcting issues I couldn't live with before. (Pixelbook i5 on sale?)
Thoughts on Chrome OS memory usage appreciated. Maybe I just don't understand.
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I cannot speak to your issue on Chrome OS memory usage. But I ask you this: were you impacted in any way by the amount of memory? I have owned the device for about a month now. I bought it primarily to replace an Android tablet that has stopped getting security updates. So I bought it to use as a tablet, mostly to read publications, news, watch video, do email etc. Where I used a BT keyboard rarely with the Android tablet but had a case on it to prop it up for viewing, I use the keyboard for that purpose, and since I have the keyboard I use it more often.
So I am coming from a tablet usage perspective. I love it. I have had 8-10 tabs open without lag. I use some Android apps with it, but not many. All run full screen without issue, and seem to window just fine. I am looking forward to OS70 to see what tablet goodies it will bring to me. As it stands, I have no issues using it as a tablet with OS69.
Hardware-wise, this thing is great. It looks great, is very sturdy, and has the same great screen as the Pixelbook. Speakers are loud but, as usual for a laptop or tablet, lack bass. The keyboard and touch pad are better than anything in its price range that I have tried. I am using it right now. I have heard criticism that it wobbles a bit from the hinge. I have not experienced that myself, unless I use the touch screen but that is no more than other clam shell laptops with touch screens.
In usage, apps load quickly and smoothly. The newblue BT driver has greatly improved the BT experience. Devices pair and connect the first time, every time. I use multiple windows of Google Sheets and copy and paste between them with ease.
I find that I am using the X2 much more frequently than I ever did the Android tablet. It has taken over 90% of my computing experience, since it is so quick to unlock and the human/machine interfaces are so pleasurable to use.
Just orderered mine yesterday, but with 8go of RAM, 64 of storage and a Core I5. On the paper, it's the perfect Chromebook, I will see once in my hands (tomorrow)
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Kholargol said:
Just orderered mine yesterday, but with 8go of RAM, 64 of storage and a Core I5. On the paper, it's the perfect Chromebook, I will see once in my hands (tomorrow)
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Where did you find the x2 with these specs?
In France. Reference is: Chromebook HP x2 12-f000nf
But they are very expensive (computers are more expensive here in general)
Not sure I'm gonna keep it anyway. The low opening angle is very frustrating. From now, I didn't find a comfortable position to use it on a couch (with the keyboard attached obviously, I don't have problem in tablet mode).
Also the fact that I can't really use external SD card is bothering me. But it specifics to ChromeOS not the device. I just want to see pics and movies on my SD Card and I fu**ing can't.
At the end, I returned it. ChromeOS killed me. I thought I would be able to do -at least- the same things on ChromeOS than Android, it appeared I can't even do the half!
Very very disappointed..
Kholargol said:
At the end, I returned it. ChromeOS killed me. I thought I would be able to do -at least- the same things on ChromeOS than Android, it appeared I can't even do the half!
Very very disappointed..
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I am looking into buying this device as well and I am surprised to see that you don't have free access to the sdcard. I checked it out online and there it looks like os gives access to the card without a problem and that since this year also Android apps can use it. Is it something specific that didn't work for you?
You're wrong, sorry. OS have access to SD Card but Android apps don't. Every app I've tried was not able to see SD card.
I'm not sure but I think that the OS enalbe it now but devs have to modify their apps. And they don't. Because Android devs care only about rendering on mobile, they don't give a sh*t tabs or ChromeOS compatibility.
Did you buy your Chromebook finally?
Kholargol said:
You're wrong, sorry. OS have access to SD Card but Android apps don't. Every app I've tried was not able to see SD card.
I'm not sure but I think that the OS enalbe it now but devs have to modify their apps. And they don't. Because Android devs care only about rendering on mobile, they don't give a sh*t tabs or ChromeOS compatibility.
Did you bet your Chromebook finally?
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Fyde is could do it
Just ordered here in the U.K., the spec is 64 GB eMMC, 8 GB LPDDR3-1866 SDRAM, 7th Generation Intel® Core™ m3 processor, having returned the google pixel Hoping for much better things from the X2 unit.
It sucks that the $600 American version is not available in Europe. In Germany/Netherlands I only find the i5 version for a E1000, or in the UK the i3 with additional RAM, but also being 800 Pounds.
The US version is tested and received well, and converted to Euro's for a good price as well. I might check in my network who will be visiting the US in the near future and has some luggage space left over on the return flight
Buy Teclast F6 Pro and you will get better computer for 400 USD, which can run ChromeOS, Linux, Windows, Android and MacOS, has the same specs, but rotational display and 128 GB SSD.
wizzardsk said:
Buy Teclast F6 Pro and you will get better computer for 400 USD, which can run ChromeOS, Linux, Windows, Android and MacOS, has the same specs, but rotational display and 128 GB SSD.
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Thanks, I checked it out. Spec and money wise a nice device. However, I am looking for a replacement of my 10" Asus 701T, an Android tablet with a 'full size' keyboard It has it's own hinge to hold up the tablet in any position, without additional legs or other stuff necessary. The HP is already bigger, but for the rest it has all my requirements (the main one being able to use as a tablet).
Great device, got mine in Feb $399. good replacement for ASUS C200MA . Many but not all android app work will with 128G SD card.
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You're wrong, sorry. OS have access to SD Card but Android apps don't. Every app I've tried was not able to see SD card.
I'm not sure but I think that the OS enalbe it now but devs have to modify their apps. And they don't. Because Android devs care only about rendering on mobile, they don't give a sh*t tabs or ChromeOS compatibility.
Did you buy your Chromebook finally?
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Android does have access to the SD card, just as it does on a phone or Android tablet...
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Also you can right-click (two-finger-click on the track pad) on a folder and select to share it with Linux. I've got a Linux folder on my SD card that is shared and accessible in Visual Studio Code.
Mine is on its way. I ordered it on the US and next week a local colleague will bring it along on his return flight home. Although lower spec'ed, it is 2.5 times cheaper than in West Europe.
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Mine is on its way. I ordered it on the US and next week a local colleague will bring it along on his return flight home. Although lower spec'ed, it is 2.5 times cheaper than in West Europe.
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If you're planning on running any Linux apps on it I'll be interested to see if you have to do anything else first. I was expecting to at least have to enable via a setting somewhere, but the Terminal app was there and I downloaded and installed a debian package without having to do anything else. I suspect there's more under the hood in the EU version than the US version, other than the obvious hardware differences.
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If you're planning on running any Linux apps on it I'll be interested to see if you have to do anything else first. I was expecting to at least have to enable via a setting somewhere, but the Terminal app was there and I downloaded and installed a debian package without having to do anything else. I suspect there's more under the hood in the EU version than the US version, other than the obvious hardware differences.
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I'm planning to more or less use it as an Android device, running apps from the play store.
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I'm planning to more or less use it as an Android device, running apps from the play store.
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You'll be able to tell if it's capable of running Linux apps out of the box, just by opening the app drawer and typing "Terminal". If it's there, it is.