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Nvidia's Quad Core Tegra 3, dubbed "Kal-El", processor is being released sometime this fall, with Motorola likely being the first to ship out Kal-El tablets. It's supposed to be 5 times better than Tegra 2 and still be battery friendly... If you have not yet heard of it, and are still unaware of its epicness, check out this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvaDtshLY8&feature=youtube_gdata_player , this is a video of a game demonstrating the awesome powers of Kal-El. It's AMAZING, and supposedly, the final production model of the chip will be some 30% faster...
C'mon technology, take a break for a bit...
So seeing that our Galaxy Tab 10.1 will soon be old news, what do you think about Kal-El?
Here we go again ...... lots of opinions on this in the TF forums.
There will always be something new around the corner and I'm not falling for the numbers game any more
first it was ghz war for processors
Then how many cores can fit on a cpu yet most software failed to take any advantage
Then cameras and the megapixel wars which went up while sensor size stayed the same and pix quality got worse
Software needs to be streamlined well before any real use advantage will be seen.
However apart from the odd game who really needs a quad core tablet, yes its nice to have but not essential
If I want to photo edit I'll use photoshop I'm my pc, if I want to video edit I'll goto the pc, if I want to watch hd video I'll do it via my media streamer
If I want to browse the web or view emails or play the odd game or watch a short film I'll use my dual core tablet or hell my single core galaxy s they both manage it extremely well.
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I will wait to see what Asus and Samsung have in store before considering upgrading my galaxy tab.
I agree, there really isn't much of a point in having a quad core tablet, at least in MY opinion... It is pretty impressive though.
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I'll wait until there's a fantastic price on the next-gen tablet (like the staples $100 off coupon). Once it hits the sweet spot (@$150 difference between the sale price on a next-gen and the craigslist value of my GT10), I'll buy. I'm guessing it will be around January or February. Until then, I really hope I don't have to see too many more of these threads asking if I need to upgrade already...
This soon is just too far away for me. If this soon would mean this month then i would start thinking about it.
As no manufacturer hasn't even announced any kal el tablets, it's very long wait until we see them in shops.
You'll see it first from Amazon, imho, by the end of the year.
But who cares? The heavy lifting on these devices is media and you dont need more cores for that and it'll always be handled by dedicated silicon. So what do more cores get you? Not every one faps to quadrant.
When I upgraded from the nexus one to my htc sensation i did so for the qhd display and better media and camera capabilities. Two cores, not a big deal.
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Man I just bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and found out there is going to be a quad core cpu in a few months. Well I will definitely want this and probably sell my Tab 10.1 on craigslist for hopefully 350-400. I will wait till Samsung comes out with their Tab version on Kal-El.
im still trying to figure out how to bypass the stupid SIM activation screen on my LTE verizon tab and or root it but its a pain.
quad is nice to have... but right now even with the dual core tabs out there is hardly any apps out that take full advantage of the hardware, only few. Now we're dealing with quad when devs are just starting to focus on dual.
Quad core would be even nicer with more ram, 1GB ram still doesnt seem to cut it.
Hi, I know iv posted a few threads already asking about future proofing of the Galaxy S2 however i have a different question specifically related 2 gaming and game releases and updates not hardware or OS Software.
First question is: after the Galaxy S3 will launch, in other peoples experience with Android, will the games continue 2 be developed for the GS2..aswell as GAME updates, etc? I am fairly new to Android therefore dont know much about it yet or what to expect, but from others' experience, do games still get developed for "older" devices..and if so for how long usually?
Second Question: I always use my GS2 as im a pocket gamer, the big screen is marvelous, always gets me coming back 2 the GS2. Looking at benchmark tests in comparison to iphone 4s, it only has offscreen where the 4S wins hands down... however in Native Resolution(where most ppl play the games...on the phone screen) how much difference is the 4S GPU in terms of performance? Not including offscreen... or does anyone know where to fnd the benchmarks that ARENT offscreen?
the 1 site i found is here and it seems like the GS2 wins in Native Resolution GPU performance:
http://glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Samsung+GT-i9100+Galaxy+S2&benchmark=glpro21 <---- Galaxy S2
http://glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Apple+iPhone+4S&benchmark=glpro21 <---- iPhone 4S
I just want to get a bit better understanding of android and my GS2 thats all, thanks
When playing games on iPhone 4S and the Galaxy S2, i actually dont notice too much difference... what would others prefer 2 game on and why?(excluding the fact apple has more games to choose from)??
If gaming is your focus get the iPhone 4s. It has the best GPU atm and games are released on iOS before they get released on Android.
That being said you can use Android to game, too (actually quite well) but the iPhone still wins in that department.
....OH REALLY!!!???
i know the games get released on iOS first... but the small screen is annoying sometimes depending on the game.
I wanted an in depth answer from the benchmarks i posted and all
and btw, gaming is not just my focus, the whole phone is, screen size, how long it'll last, what you are able to do on it, etc... gaming is just my question in focus!
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....OH REALLY!!!???
i know the games get released on iOS first... but the small screen is annoying sometimes depending on the game.
I wanted an in depth answer from the benchmarks i posted and all
and btw, gaming is not just my focus, the whole phone is, screen size, how long it'll last, what you are able to do on it, etc... gaming is just my question in focus!
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Then your question is much more complicated as all those factors depend on personal perception. As such you should get a hand on both devices (preferrably for a day or longer) and see which one fits your needs.
There's not really THE "in depth answer", but many answers, based on personal opinion.
So all I can offer is my reasons why I went the SGS II route:
a) I love AMOLED
b) I wanted a big screen
c) The reviews I read about it were great
d) It's very light, despite being huge
e) It's so flat
f) More of a general statement about Android: the way to customize the phone I want it, in every single way.
That being said I can see other, huge advantages for the iPhone, too:
a) Retina, it has a higher resolution than the SGS II
b) A big screen is not for everyone as some people prefer smaller phones
c) I love the glass design of the iPhone 4s
d) More games, more apps
e) Strongest GPU on the market, only rivaled by the iPad 2.
Those are my opinions about both phones, based on personal perception (I even bought my girlfriend an iPhone 4s as she has much iTunes music/movies already) and the technical facts.
As I said, that's just my opinion but I hope that you understand now, why I believe, that there is no definite answer.
I think the 2.x.x is a problem, not being optimized for multi core can affect overall performance since the OS mediates all the function calls but i'm not sure.
And being the hardware and software manufacturer always will give Apple some advantage, they can fine tune the software, i honestly think the Android phone lacks this skills.
But AFAIK custom roms can be more optimized than stock ones, i don't know how, but they usually scores better in benchmarks.
For me it's quite simple. Many people tend to enjoy puzzle games and such on their mobiles (e.g. Angry Birds, Cut the rope), because no matter what more complex games are hard to handle on a touchscreen. If you're that kind of person, then the SGS2 is the way to go: i can't see puzzle games becoming too good for this hardware in at least a couple years, plus the AMOLED screen of this device makes cartoonish graphics look really awesome, and the huge sizes deliver you a great experience.
Otherwise, if you want console quality games on your phone, with a complex story, complex controls and amazing 3d graphics (e.g. Shadowgun, Modern Combat 3) then the iPhone is the only way to go: it will be supported for a long time and its hardware will grow older much slowly because of the dedicated development.
Imho at the end of the day complex games will never be very suitable to a mobile device: controls have to be weird and unintuitive, and will take up most of the screen; also, they're not very suitable to be played on the go. Games like Cut the rope for example are a much better option when you are on the go, they will take much less effort and headaches to be played and in the end will give you more fun. All in all mobile games should be those time wasters we can use while we need to wait for the bus or something like that, a fully blown gaming experience feels out of place imho. I've played most of the high end 3d games to date on my device, but if i think about it most of the times i did i was at home on the couch, while instead i hardly touched them while on the go, when simple games like Trial X or Cut the rope are the best way to have fun imho. In the end you gonna do what i did, and realize that high end games are a waste on mobile devices, because they are so complex and involving that the only way to enjoy them is being at home, where you can have your console/gaming pc and have much more fun. Just my 2 cents.
u want gaming get an iphone
u want a bigger screen get sgs2
u want gaming on a big screen
wait for iphone 5
OR
gaming on a portable device
PS vita
3ds
etc
You can have an idea looking in the SGS1 forums. Probably when SGS3 be out on the shelves, SGS2 will receive the same treatment SGS1 is receiving since SGS2 was released.
^ Very likely right.
The price we have to pay for this open plattform is that there's a high degree of fragmentation. I wish they would make phones a bit more expensive, but stop releasing them so fast.
Then again:
the advantage of Android is, that we don't have to rely on Samsung at all, when it comes to updates.
i dont wanna particulary read more forums again!
can someone just tell me the answers 2 my damn questions?
I am sure with your greatfull attitude, you will get the answers you seek promptly.....surely nobody would expect you to use a forum search and find the answer like everyone else does ....
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i dont wanna particulary read more forums again!
can someone just tell me the answers 2 my damn questions?
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Ok, i'll write it down in more simple manner, directly addressing your op:
1)Benchmarks mean NOTHING, especially when comparing 2 completely different platforms, ran in a completely different manner. Anyway, fwiw the gpu in the iPhone is about twice as powerful as the one in the the GS2, so expect that the high end games specifically designed to take advantage of the a5 soc will SUCK on the GS2 simply because there's no comparison. They may be ported to the GS2 because it's a well selling phone, this is very likely to happen, but they'll probably have much less detail/effects and will probably lag and stutter. You can't really see that now, but trust me: in a few months some of those will come out, and you'll know i was right.
Even assuming that the GS2 will be fast enough for those (and it won't) they will still run better on the iPhone, basically because Android games are ports of games which were born with the iPhone hardware in mind.
2)iPhone version will always be the one relased first, and also the one receiving more updates/bugfixes (e.g. the iPhone version of MC2 has more maps in the multiplayer version).
Now i'll also write it in caps so that you won't have more doubts about it: GET THE FREAKING IPHONE.
just like what vnvman said
get an IPHONE !!!!
or
get a 3ds or something
peterdan1506 said:
i dont wanna particulary read more forums again!
can someone just tell me the answers 2 my damn questions?
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Hey if you are smart enough you can type g o o g l e. com and find your damn answers cry baby.
Emulators flawless victory... You don't know how many iphonerz have seen me playing super Mario 64 on my tablet and asked "is that an iPad? What's that app called?
Angry birds is so yesterday.. N64 was last decade
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Android also has a much greater market share than IOS (44.8% compared with 27.4%) - its no surprise that the Android Market is set to surpass the Appstore in 2012 as Android IS EVERYWHERE! Developers can earn much more money developing for the majority! .... Apple are seriously worried, releasing this poo iphone and Steve jobs dying aswell. Oh Dear - samsung & google are booming,
Ice cream sandwich is supposed to give our GPU a massive boost, so exciting times.
Apple does seem to get the games first, however as ive said - this is slowly changing, ive also failed to see a game run smoothly on the SGS2.
Browsing, watching movies and playing touch screen games are much better on the bigger screen, with the much better colours. You have to remember, on a 3.5in screen, your fingers dont get any smaller!
I wouldnt go for the iphone, its a poor release from apple, i think its more of a desperate release than anything.
Sure, the screen on the iphone does have a greater resolution, there is no denying this - however, they fail to tell you that this is only noticeable when zooming in 'further than' a double tap zoom. They also fail to mention that the iphone screen as a contrast ratio of 1400:1, the SGS2 is 100000:1 (everyone sees the contrast without zooming in, its the vibrant colours, the depth of colour and the blackest blacks etc)
But half the ram?
No customization?
Smaller screen?
Thicker?
Heavier?
Easily smashed?
No flash still?
No external sd slot?
No hdmi slot?
Underclocked 800mhz cpu?
Smaller battery?
No bluetooth file sharing?
Poor integration to social media?
I could go on...
to me - the SGS2 is a clear choice.
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3d intensive high-end game development takes time and I think those games are optimized not the latest but a strong mainstream hardware in mind. I think gs2 have enough juice to deal with any upcoming games for a year or two especially on a 800x480 screen. Iphone pixel count is cca 33% more so needs a 33% stronger gpu for the same performance and cpu performance is inferior. At the end I do not think that in real life gaming a 4s could really show its gpu advantage.
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Not a big fan of benchmarks myself, but I have looked into GLBenchmark comparisons between the 4S and the S2. Here are my impressions:
- Both the S2 and 4S are essentially vsync limited for the Egypt and Pro onscreen tests, comparing them therefore is pointless. Although what I would say is it becomes exponentially harder for a framerate to get closer to 60fps when vsync limited, what I mean is it's harder to go from an average of 58fps to 59fps than to go from 57fps to 58fps.
- In the offscreen tests run at 720, you should expect all devices to have a reduced framerate from their native resolution for obvious reasons. The 4S is the only device I have found in the results database (with a lower than 720 native res) where the framerate actually increases. This strikes me as rather suspect and I would suggest that the iOS implementation of GLBenchmark is somewhat ballsed up.
- When I ran a lot of the specialised benchmarks used GLBenchmark what I saw is that actually a number of the tests are vsync capped at 60fps for the S2, so even overclocking the GPU does not increase scores. Somehow the 4S gets around this cap also on the individual tests and so its scores are significantly higher naturally. Furthermore the tests which are capped on the S2 are the ones where it already outscores the 4S. The GPUs on the 4S and S2 are very different and so you would expect them to perform better at different things and this is borne out in the results here.
Essentially what this means is that even with the cross platform nature of GLBenchmark, you still can't really compare the GPUs or 3D performance. I have yet to come across a game that has produced any noticeable framerate drop on the S2 and so it surely fits the purpose at least until the next generation of phones come out. It is only likely to get more buttery smooth under ICS and so I can't see anyone having a reason to complain.
Question boils down to do you want the earlier access to games or do you want the freedom of android? It seems to me we are seeing more simultaneous releases than in the past and the reported numbers from the App Store vs the Android Market are suggesting that Android is catching up fast in revenue terms in which case timing may be a moot point in the near future.
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I am sure with your greatfull attitude, you will get the answers you seek promptly.....surely nobody would expect you to use a forum search and find the answer like everyone else does ....
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angelomaldito said:
You can have an idea looking in the SGS1 forums. Probably when SGS3 be out on the shelves, SGS2 will receive the same treatment SGS1 is receiving since SGS2 was released.
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My daughter has saved up some money and is interested in getting a tablet to play with on holiday etc. Due to her young age I'm sure games will be a big deal. I have been looking at the Versus Touchpad 7 tablet which seems remarkably good value, but there was one comment on PC World's feedback that worries and makes be curious
"If you are purching this for kids and they want to download well known games from the Google Play store beware - many do not work with it, e.g. most EA games e.g. Fifa 2012, Monopoly, plus PES 2012, and the support you get from Google play or the game manufacturers in little to none."
The device has ICS and comes with Google Play, and it has an ARM Cortex A8 processor.
Why would these games not work? is it true? How do you choose an ICS tablet if it's that complicated?
thanks
It's because they all have different GPU's like PowerVR, Mali and Tegra and some Games only work with certain GPUs unless you Root and use Chainfire 3D, and I know it's annoying but that's just the way it is.
It is not usually that difficult, if a tablet has a decent gpu and at least 1 ghz cpu with one gig ram it will be fine for most games.
The problem is that the specific tablet you refer to is a low budget model that can be found rebranded by various companies and to keep costs low they use a very old not very good gpu.
Because high end games need a decent gpu to handle all the high quality graphics the lower end tablets aren't compatible because the gpu hasn't the raw power needed.
They are fine for everyday use but for games you need a recent gpu as, when gaming, this part of the tablet works the hardest and so needs to be powerful.
For the same price as the tablet you mentioned you could buy the much better specced ainol novo elf II which has a dual core cpu and a quad core mali 400 gpu and that would play the games much better.
You could even go for the budget priced Nexus 7 that has the state of the art tegra 3 gpu which is the best available gpu for android devices.
Dave
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Thanks for the advice. I hate to say it but I think she might be happier with a Nintendo DS, and I am told that they are a lot more robust. She's only 8. The Nexus 7 doesn't seem widely (cheaply) available in the UK yet. It annoys me that a DS is as expensive as a tablet but at her age I think she only really wants games, particularly nintendogs.
dieselnutjob said:
Thanks for the advice. I hate to say it but I think she might be happier with a Nintendo DS, and I am told that they are a lot more robust. She's only 8. The Nexus 7 doesn't seem widely (cheaply) available in the UK yet. It annoys me that a DS is as expensive as a tablet but at her age I think she only really wants games, particularly nintendogs.
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The ds can be strong although in the past few years my ten year old has broken quite a few.
With the ds you can buy the lite version, or even original, which makes it a lot cheaper if you need to replace it.
As for the The Nexus 7 it will always be around £160 because it is sold by google pretty much at cost so won't come down in price unfortunately.
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I spent a couple of hours with my daughter in PC world playing with the Nexus 7. There are a ton of games but they just didn't seem to engage her the way that the DS games did. A Nexus 7 is £200 on the high street but to be honest a DS with a couple of games is just as much. She has been saving for a year for a DS and now is really enjoying it so I guess that's okay.
The tip about the ainol novo elf II is very interesting. Maybe I will have to find an excuse to buy one.
If I had been a bit more organised she could have had a used DS and an Novo Elf II with the money she had but we need it to go away on holiday and I just left it too late. Oh well. Thanks for the replies.
I remember when I first saw this video presentation and how excited it made me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dZsS-C6f2Q
I also remember seeing this video which sold me on the Tegra 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thwgwQMXR84&feature=relmfu
At the time when I watched these video I my only Android device was the Samsung Vibrant with its single core. Battery life on that phone was ok at best but I couldn't play certain games because framerates were slow or things got chuggy depending on the game or app. I love live wallpapers and I couldn't use them much because they'd slow my phone down bigtime. So you can only imagine my excitement for the Transformer Prime.
So now its been a few months since I've had the Prime (which is rooted and running a stable custom rom) and yes it does handle things better than my old Vibrant phone. However, my Prime still stutters when scrolling from screen to screen, chugs sometimes when I load certain apps and run some live wallpapers. I honestly thought a quadcore processor would have solved all of that.
What I find more puzzling is that I just upgraded to the Galaxy S3 and bought the The Amazing Spiderman game. Why is it that my phone runs The Amazing Spiderman better than my Prime?? Silky smooth on my GS3 which is a dual-core but stuttery on my Prime with a quad-core. If anything I expected my Prime to outperform the GS3 but no. Did I miss something here???
Most probably tested and optimized on the gs3 cuz it sells very well. Secondly gameloft is terrible when it come to coding on android
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TheAggression said:
I remember when I first saw this video presentation and how excited it made me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dZsS-C6f2Q
I also remember seeing this video which sold me on the Tegra 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thwgwQMXR84&feature=relmfu
At the time when I watched these video I my only Android device was the Samsung Vibrant with its single core. Battery life on that phone was ok at best but I couldn't play certain games because framerates were slow or things got chuggy depending on the game or app. I love live wallpapers and I couldn't use them much because they'd slow my phone down bigtime. So you can only imagine my excitement for the Transformer Prime.
So now its been a few months since I've had the Prime (which is rooted and running a stable custom rom) and yes it does handle things better than my old Vibrant phone. However, my Prime still stutters when scrolling from screen to screen, chugs sometimes when I load certain apps and run some live wallpapers. I honestly thought a quadcore processor would have solved all of that.
What I find more puzzling is that I just upgraded to the Galaxy S3 and bought the The Amazing Spiderman game. Why is it that my phone runs The Amazing Spiderman better than my Prime?? Silky smooth on my GS3 which is a dual-core but stuttery on my Prime with a quad-core. If anything I expected my Prime to outperform the GS3 but no. Did I miss something here???
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Be careful these guys will run you clear out of here if you down the prime & put anything over it. I felt the same way you felt & got sick of it & sold mine 3 weeks ago...&'got something 10x better than the prime...good luck.
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Be careful these guys will run you clear out of here if you down the prime & put anything over it. I felt the same way you felt & got sick of it & sold mine 3 weeks ago...&'got something 10x better than the prime...good luck.
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Ipad by any chance? I don't like Apple gadgets, but would buy even the original ipad ten times before buying this Prime. As far as being "run out of town" for putting the Prime down, I'm not here to make friends or seek anyone's approval. I am here to learn, to improve my device, and to give my opinion when I feel that it's warranted. Asus released a device that should have never been released in it's current state, and had the nerve to charge a premium price for a device that doesn't even perform up to par with my old original Evo. And we are all idiots for buying it. Hats off to this community of devs, who were able to squeeze every ounce of performance out of this device with no help from Asus. I realize that there is only so much we can do, but as usual, the community comes through and finds workarounds for the problems that the manufacturer causes. My Samsung Galaxy S II is a beautiful device, and while it goes without saying that I will never buy another Asus device again, I would go as far as to say that I will never buy another Android device that is not made by Samsung.
The S3 is quad core and my prime does not lag at all. If we can fix the memory bottleneck then it will be hard to beat.
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Most probably tested and optimized on the gs3 cuz it sells very well. Secondly gameloft is terrible when it come to coding on android
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No, it is not optimized for GS3. Simply because there are multiple version of GS3.... one with exyno quad-core(international version), one with S4 krait dual-core(US version)... and so forth. If you think Gameloft is terrible at coding for android... you can pretty much say the same for basically all android game devs.
Yeah basically, although equipped with a quadcore processor it really operates and feels more like what I would have expected a dual core to feel like. Yet my GS3 (T-mobile) with its dual-core operates much more fluently than my Prime does. What surprised me is that my phone handles things with ease that my Prime sometimes chugs at. Not saying that Prime sucks because it does't and for the most part I'm satisfied with it. I'm just a little underwhelmed with its performance. There's no reason my Prime should stutter or chug at certain things. Playing The Amazing Spiderman on the Prime is little disappointing......thank God for my GS3 I guess.
Lemme explain gameloft makes games for android and most android phones run qualcom CPUs and gpus. So qualcom devices have better gaming just because most devs know that most phones use qualcom snapdragon s3 or s4. Tegra on the other hand is tablet only for most part and theres like couple million tablets on the market comparedto the hundred million phones or so. Which do you think would het the priority in development first?
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Big problem is the scheduling I/O and this has been discussed. Not sure if the new JB kernel will fix the problems but if you can take it back for free upgrade to an Infinity or wait for something better/more stable. I love my Prime and it's not a primary gaming device for me (have my ps3, xbox, and PC for that) so I don't notice it at all.
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No, it is not optimized for GS3. Simply because there are multiple version of GS3.... one with exyno quad-core(international version), one with S4 krait dual-core(US version)... and so forth. If you think Gameloft is terrible at coding for android... you can pretty much say the same for basically all android game devs.
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There games are absurdly huge and many gameloft games play better on my 4 year old iPod touch than my gs2 so ya I think they're terrible at coding.
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Ya even my gs2 skyrocket with only an snapdragon s3 (not even exynos) can outperform the prime in many things I was very dissapoinyed with much of the performance, especially with the browser which my skyrocket is amazing at, usual for Samsung. But I think jellybean will improve the performance a lot
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Just curious to see how many are thinking of selling their Nexus 10 I the next two months to buy the new one.
I don't see what more can they improve truthfully. Battery I think will stay the same (I mean on screen time), screen can't improve more, speakers will be the same, etc.
All I can see improvement in is on the CPU. Maybe even 3GB RAM.
Everything else is not really important. Better cameras? Who cares in a tablet?
Maybe some minor design tweaks.
Overall only the CPU is an important change.
No definitely not. I like its design very much, screen is superb as you said, maybe it needs a contrast tweak but its not that important. IMO tablets and smartphones don't need to get any faster in future, they should tweak battery life and fight heat generation of the cpu/gpu.
The most drastic change would be a new/different system but as the "old nexus" is still a nexus it'll be updated anyway.
Only if theyd reduce weight drastically + even better screen (not ppi but contrast) + better battery life + more appealing design + better thermal management I'd even consider buying a new one...I personally don't need to have the newest octa- dexacore cpu with practically the same battery life or even worse...
No.
From my S-Off BadSeed DNA
I'll have to wait and see what they come out with before making a decision.
No, the current version does all I want at this time. I will wait 2-3yrs before buying a new tablet. That assumes it does not die or that battery deteriates to the point I must buy a new one. If anything I don't like about current tablets is that the batteries cannot be user replaced like laptops.
Do you really think all they can come up with is a new CPU?
And even if its only that, there are people who always want the newest and best thing on the market. If they put a better GPU (we rly need one), 1 more GB RAM (cause 1 is used only by the gpu) and maybe better build quality, it's already a huge improvement.
Add ASUS' keyboard dock and this thing is a dream come true.
Not going to sell it, but my wife has gotten very frustrated with the slow performance of her hand-me-down Galaxy Tab 10.1, so now she wants me to get a new tablet so she can have my Nexus 10. So there's a good chance I'll be picking up the new one soon after release.
jmo but if the rumors are true that Asus will be making the new one, I'm happy with what I got (Samsung).
More than happy with my current tablet and will be sticking around probably until next year. There's not too much they can add that the current one doesn't do. Probably just better CPU/GPU which isn't worth a $500 upgrade.
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A better GPU and more ram is all thats really needed. The design is fine, screen and speakers are all great. CPU is fine but I'm sure most wouldn't mind a quad core.
No.. I'm not chasing unnecessary (for me) technology advancements...
LTE support could get me to sell/switch. Also I got the 16GB and I wish I would have got the 32GB. If the new one doesn't have LTE I might try to pick up a first gen 32GB cheap.
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I'll be waiting for next years Nexus 10. I'm on the two year plan...
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Other than wanting better battery life, there isn't really anything about my n10 hat i need improving. CPU, GPU, screen, speakers, design, build quality, it all does it's job just great.
I just got mine yesterday off Swappa after studying the rumor mill and comparing the the first gen to my needs. It didn't make sense to spend $180 more for something just because it was new in my case.
No, I will keep my Nexus 10. I am very happy with it and don't need an new One
Yes, I'm selling my N10 to buy the new one.
Having lived with the N10 for a year, I'm not afraid to acknowledge its shortcomings.
The GPU overheats too quickly while playing certain games. I had the N7v2 for a short while and the GPU in that tablet was quicker and cooler and never overheated during the same games I played on the N10.
The CPU could be faster - I'm not saying the Exynos is slow, but when I'm loading desktop sites, it does take a few seconds for every site to load. I don't like mobile sites.
More RAM is always a good thing.
The way I see it, I plan on selling my 32 GB N10 for $250-$300, and then I'll by the new one for $200-$250.
Geodude074 said:
Yes, I'm selling my N10 to buy the new one.
Having lived with the N10 for a year, I'm not afraid to acknowledge its shortcomings.
The GPU overheats too quickly while playing certain games. I had the N7v2 for a short while and the GPU in that tablet was quicker and cooler and never overheated during the same games I played on the N10.
The CPU could be faster - I'm not saying the Exynos is slow, but when I'm loading desktop sites, it does take a few seconds for every site to load. I don't like mobile sites.
More RAM is always a good thing.
The way I see it, I plan on selling my 32 GB N10 for $250-$300, and then I'll by the new one for $200-$250.
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How do you plan on buying the new one for 200-250 dollars? Or did you mean 200-250 dollars more because I don't think it will be that cheap
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Selling this for the nexus 7 2013. The size is just too much, I'm no longer a can of 10 inch tablets. Sticking to 7 to 8.5 inches and anything bigger will just be a laptop or an ultrabook.
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sader2202 said:
Selling this for the nexus 7 2013. The size is just too much, I'm no longer a can of 10 inch tablets. Sticking to 7 to 8.5 inches and anything bigger will just be a laptop or an ultrabook.
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I really can't refer to 7 inches as tablet.just as a big phone. 7 inches for me is a joke, I prefer a phone than a small tablet.
Only as a second tablet I can find it of use.