So here is my situation. Getting a HTC One under Sprint. It uses a SIM card. I've been told it will work on T-Mobile. My question is can I just flash radios or will it be always stuck with just Edge?
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Im pretty sure this will not work.
The Sprint version of the HTC One is CDMA / LTE NOT GSM/LTE
Thanks. That was my initial thought process too. Probably just sell it. Have a Nexus 5 on the way too.
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IAmSixNine said:
Im pretty sure this will not work.
The Sprint version of the HTC One is CDMA / LTE NOT GSM/LTE
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It's actually CDMA/GSM and LTE. Sprint locks down the GSM portion against using a domestic SIM from AT&T and TMobile by default. They'll unlock it for international SIMs/use if you meet certain criteria etc.
It has the necessary radios to work on Tmobile and or AT&T, you just have to have it unlocked a certain way. Search here on XDA, it's been done though it's not the easiest process.
The Sprint One has a SIM slot?
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blackangst said:
The Sprint One has a SIM slot?
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At the top, left side of the HTC One even under Sprint there is a Sim Slot.
jziggy101 said:
At the top, left side of the HTC One even under Sprint there is a Sim Slot.
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Every LTE device will have a sim slot.
LTE is based on GSM technology. Now with that said there is a GSM variant and a CDMA variant. The CDMA variant does not have the basic GSM chipset for GPRS/ EDGE technology. So putting your sim card in there MIGHT only get you LTE in a re farmed TMO area with 1900mhz. Bottom line is if you want the phone to work like it should you need to buy a T-Mobile one.. It has the 1700mhz aws band you need for all of T-Mobiles network.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#/
This unit has
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - CDMA:
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 1900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
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Hi ,
I want to do similar stuff.
I am currently using SPRINT Phone on my T-mobile network . It works fine (Just some network auto disconnect issues sometimes).
BUT , I want Tmobile Stock ROM on my SPRINT Phone... (Only Reason for that: I want WIFI-CALLING - Which only Tmobile supports)
Have anyone flashed SPRINT with TMOBILE ROM (Stock)
manasbapna said:
Hi ,
I want to do similar stuff.
I am currently using SPRINT Phone on my T-mobile network . It works fine (Just some network auto disconnect issues sometimes).
BUT , I want Tmobile Stock ROM on my SPRINT Phone... (Only Reason for that: I want WIFI-CALLING - Which only Tmobile supports)
Have anyone flashed SPRINT with TMOBILE ROM (Stock)
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Can you tell me how you were able to get sprint phone on t-mobile network. I have HTC one, unlocked, but it won't connect to tmobile towers.
My Radio is: 1.00.20.315
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Okay I been asking this for a while. I will be taking a trip to Mexico in July and I'm getting a prepaid sim there. I choosen which company to go with while I'm down there and I wanted to see if I'm able to get 3G with Movistar Mexico while I'm there. I will be running the Venasuar rom with the GSM patch. Here's a link of Movistars network stuff. Thanks for the help guys
http://www.unlockonline.com/mobilenetworks/mexico/movistar.html
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You won't be able to get data... You need the 2100 MHz band that carrier has the 1900 MHz band
AshtonTS said:
You won't be able to get data... You need the 2100 MHz band that carrier has the 1900 MHz band
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Actually, he will get Data, its just that its gonns be on EDGE instead of 3G/HSPDA
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Ah well thanks guys
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thanks guy
CDMA: Dual-band CDMA/EVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE: 700 MHz (Band 13 only)
GSM: 850/1900/2100
And in this case, GSM means 2G/Edge, not HSPA... so no 3G.
Technically, the MSM8660 supports a much wider range of frequencies, but the Rezound does not have all the "tuning" or radios (software radios) needed to make them work properly. This isn't something that the Snapdragon unlock hacks can make work either, as far as any users here have tested since the frequencies are not disabled in the chipset, they just were never setup in the firmware to operate.
GSM ≠ 3G/HSPA/HSPA+
Want to get the s3 but want to make sure it works with TMobile.
No, you will only get edge speeds, no 3g.
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It works for me. Bought my unbranded, non-simlocked phone in Europe. Visiting US now. Daily plan with T-Mobile works fine for me.
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shaft77 said:
It works for me. Bought my unbranded, non-simlocked phone in Europe. Visiting US now. Daily plan with T-Mobile works fine for me.
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And you are getting 3g speeds??
I doubt that, the international version doesn't have the frequency for tmo's 3g.
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i also tried my att i747 sgs iii after i unlocked it with a t mobile sim.. works but also only get edge.. maybe it would work if i flashed the t mobile modem?
lgkahn said:
i also tried my att i747 sgs iii after i unlocked it with a t mobile sim.. works but also only get edge.. maybe it would work if i flashed the t mobile modem?
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No, its nothing to do with the modem. If it was, people all over the world would be buying devices from other countries.
The fact is the international GSM version only works on the frequencies its designed to work on. This is a hardware limitation and no amount of software will resolve that.
International frequencies are different to USA frequencies and as such, devices not designed for the USA will not work to their full potential in the USA.
UK (international) uses 900 Mhz/1800Mhz GSM/3G where as USA T-mob uses 1900Mhz GSM and 2100Mhz 3G.
Because the International GSM quad band device is:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz...
The GSM and 2G function works on 1900 (T-mob) but has no way to use 2100 for 3G as its not physically possible
Edit:
USA Carrier Voice Frequencies (MHz) 3G 4G Notes
AT&T 850 (Band 5)/ 1900(Band 2) 850 / 1900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
MetroPCS 1900 / AWS 1900 / AWS AWS CDMA
Sprint 1900 1900 2500 / 1900 G-Block CDMA
T-Mobile USA 1900 AWS(1700/2100 MHz)/PCS (1900) AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
Verizon 800 / 1900 800 / 1900 700 / AWS CDMA (GSM for 4G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
rootSU said:
Sorry I pressed thanks instead of quote.
No, its nothing to do with the modem. If it was, people all over the world would be buying devices from other countries.
The fact is the international GSM version only works on the frequencies its designed to work on. This is a hardware limitation and no amount of software will resolve that.
International frequencies are different to USA frequencies and as such, devices not designed for the USA will not work to their full potential in the USA.
UK (international) uses 900 Mhz/1800Mhz GSM/3G where as USA T-mob uses 1900Mhz GSM and 2100Mhz 3G.
Because the International GSM quad band device is:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz...
The GSM and 2G function works on 1900 (T-mob) but has no way to use 2100 for 3G as its not physically possible
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USA Carrier Voice Frequencies (MHz) 3G 4G Notes
AT&T 850 (Band 5)/ 1900(Band 2) 850 / 1900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
MetroPCS 1900 / AWS 1900 / AWS AWS CDMA
Sprint 1900 1900 2500 / 1900 G-Block CDMA
T-Mobile USA 1900 AWS(1700/2100 MHz)/PCS (1900) AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
Verizon 800 / 1900 800 / 1900 700 / AWS CDMA (GSM for 4G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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yes i agree for international version.. but if you read closer i DONT have the international version but the att version.. and as far as i know all the usa versions are the same with just diff. modems.
The international version will work in areas where T-Mobile is refarming 1900mhz to 3G. However this is only happening in parts of the coasts. I'm using it in Ohio and getting EDGE only. That said, it isn't too bad.
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joshnichols189 said:
The international version will work in areas where T-Mobile is refarming 1900mhz to 3G. However this is only happening in parts of the coasts. I'm using it in Ohio and getting EDGE only. That said, it isn't too bad.
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Erm, it's being tested in some coastal areas, but the 3g/hspa+ over the 1900 band is slated to go live on the majority of the network by the end of the year.
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No service HELP or clairfication PLEASE
I purchased a Tinji i9300. I have been working on this for over 3 weeks. I have no service with T-mobile. It recognizes my SIM card as T-mobile. In Engineer Mode, my bands are, EGSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900, GSM850, WCDMA-IMT-2000. I have tried numerous ROMs (stock and custom) and have rooted the phone. I have changed the IMEI. No service at all. Any thoughts? Band issue? T-mobile issue? Possible solution? **** out of luck? :crying:
Thank you!
According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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I'm wondering the same thing. If I purchase the tmobile ONE and use it on ATT, will I get LTE and MMS as well.
i want to use it the other way around an at&t htc one on tmobiles hspa+ will ill be able to do that please let me know
gophermuncher said:
According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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nuprotocol said:
I'm wondering the same thing. If I purchase the tmobile ONE and use it on ATT, will I get LTE and MMS as well.
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HSPA+, yes. MMS, yes. LTE? Maybe.
manaurys said:
i want to use it the other way around an at&t htc one on tmobiles hspa+ will ill be able to do that please let me know
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but only if you're in a refarmed 1900mhz frequency area. You can find out if you are here: http://airportal.de/
I've been investigating this. FCC documentation suggests that the HTC One for T-Mobile is certified for LTE Band 17 (AT&T).
I've unlocked the handset, but I'm only able to access AT&T's HSPA+ network.
Out of the box, the HTC One for T-Mobile doesn't support AT&T LTE.
If there is latent support, I reckon that you'd need to flash AT&T's radio to the device.
EDIT: I stand corrected. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41237507&postcount=17
the tmobile ONE supports tmobile/att hspa and lte for both carriers. The att ONE supports lte for both but only att hspa and only tmobils 1900 hspa.
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Best of both - Noob Asks
This is extremely curious to a noob like myself. To clarify, The HTC One purchased through Tmobile can be used on both the Tmobile and ATT networks? If purchased through Tmo how can I get the SIM for ATT? Can I toggle between the two? How can I utilize this awesome find to get the best out of each network. You all are smart. Thanks!
aWisseh said:
This is extremely curious to a noob like myself. To clarify, The HTC One purchased through Tmobile can be used on both the Tmobile and ATT networks? If purchased through Tmo how can I get the SIM for ATT? Can I toggle between the two? How can I utilize this awesome find to get the best out of each network. You all are smart. Thanks!
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My friend has the T-mobile One and I have the AT&T One. He tried putting his T-mobile SIM in my phone, but it would not work (my AT&T One has to be unlocked, which I believe can be done if you buy an unlock code). I couldn't say if my SIM would work since my SIM is not actually AT&T's, it is a Straight Talk SIM that is compatible with AT&T's network. I imagine you could also unlock the T-mobile variant to work with AT&T's networks, but I'm not sure if it'd be able to work on the 4G network.
I was looking at the Google Play Edition S4 on the Play Store: [Can't link outside post yet but go to the Google Play Store]
According to the Specs it uses the same frequency ranges that Verizon uses:
Network
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (700, 850, AWS, 1900 MHz)
Would this thing work on Verizon with their sim card? Sorry in advance for sounding like a noob.
It lacks a cdma radio.
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najaboy said:
It lacks a cdma radio.
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It will (presumably) work on Verizon when they do Voice over LTE... but until then, yes, it lacks a CDMA radio which means it probably won't be of use for VZW.
I knew it wouldn't work on non-CDMA networks but what about the LTE side of the house? Verizon uses 700 Mhz and 1700/2100 Mhz LTE bands for 4G. I could live without 3G for a phone that could connect to any carriers LTE freqs.
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I knew it wouldn't work on non-CDMA networks but what about the LTE side of the house? Verizon uses 700 Mhz and 1700/2100 Mhz LTE bands for 4G. I could live without 3G for a phone that could connect to any carriers LTE freqs.
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Might be fine for 4G data over LTE, but will probably be a paperweight as far as calls are concerned unless you want to go the VOIP route... not to mention you'd be SOL anywhere there's no 4G coverage. Basically there would be no fallback, you'd either have 4G data, or nothing.
I think AT&T and VZ use different ends of the 700mhz spectrum, so even if the phone somehow got authenticated onto the VZ network, the radio/antennae for AT&T's 700mhz may not work on VZ's.
Is there any way right now to get the Sprint One Max to work on AT&T or Verizon?
Verizon wouldnt allow a non verizon phone on their network and I dont believe sprint unlocks their phones for use on gsm by default. Even if you got it unlocked I dont believe the gsm radio parts would be included to run on att.
I stuck an AT&T Straight Talk sim in my Sprint One max and it didn't work.
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Jiggity Janx said:
Verizon wouldnt allow a non verizon phone on their network and I dont believe sprint unlocks their phones for use on gsm by default. Even if you got it unlocked I dont believe the gsm radio parts would be included to run on att.
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That used to be true, but it all operates from the SIM now, so you should be able to just plug and play the SIM.
Mr.Mischief said:
I stuck an AT&T Straight Talk sim in my Sprint One max and it didn't work.
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Of course, your phone is locked to Sprint.
HTC website says this about the phone:
Network1
2G/ 2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
EMEA: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
Verizon: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA
800/1900 MHz for Sprint and Verizon
4G - LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 900/1800/2100/2600 Mhz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Verizon: 700 MHz
Looks to me like there's no reason the Sprint One won't work on AT&T or Verizon just not as good as the Verizon one.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
That used to be true, but it all operates from the SIM now, so you should be able to just plug and play the SIM.
Of course, your phone is locked to Sprint.
HTC website says this about the phone:
Network1
2G/ 2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
EMEA: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
Verizon: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA
800/1900 MHz for Sprint and Verizon
4G - LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 900/1800/2100/2600 Mhz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Verizon: 700 MHz
Looks to me like there's no reason the Sprint One won't work on AT&T or Verizon just not as good as the Verizon one.
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I knew that before I tried it. Why would you even create a thread asking the question if you already knew the answer?
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I knew that before I tried it. Why would you even create a thread asking the question if you already knew the answer?
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There's this new fad people are doing called "unlocking." Haha, but seriously, that's what I'm really asking is if it can be unlocked.
Jiggity Janx said:
Verizon wouldnt allow a non verizon phone on their network and I dont believe sprint unlocks their phones for use on gsm by default. Even if you got it unlocked I dont believe the gsm radio parts would be included to run on att.
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That used to be true, but it all operates from the SIM now, so you should be able to just plug and play the SIM.
Of course, your phone is locked to Sprint.
Looks to me like there's no reason the Sprint One won't work on AT&T or Verizon just not as good as the Verizon one.
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There's this new fad people are doing called "unlocking." Haha, but seriously, that's what I'm really asking is if it can be unlocked.
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I know all about using sims now and the 'new' fad called unlocking...
Verizon and sprint are still cdma networks. They only allow phones they authorize on their network. You can try to unlock the phone to work on att but you will not get it authorized to work on verizon (even though it technically could).
I want to caveat the above with the fact that if you have a verizon person that is willing to break the rules and put the sprint phone on verizon after you unlock it then yes, you can use it on verizon. But you have to find a verizon person willing to get fired for adding a phone...
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There's this new fad people are doing called "unlocking." Haha, but seriously, that's what I'm really asking is if it can be unlocked.
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Of course. I've been unlocking devices since you were in diapers.
Sprint phones can rarely be unlocked. Anytime one is unlocked by a dev hack, there's a huge thread about it.
Basically, if there was a hack that could unlock the Sprint One max, you wouldn't have to open a thread to find it.
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised at how big a deal it is that the HTC One (non Max) on Sprint can be SIM unlocked.
EDIT: I was including even if it can be unlocked via one of those pay for unlock code sites. I'd probably pay a decent price to get an HTC One Max from Sprint SIM unlocked.
Found and Made a way to Unlock for the Sprint HTC one Max
I have found a way to SIM Unlock the HTC One Max on Sprint. It is almost the Same Exact way on how to unlock it on the HTC One but with a added step. I made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608910