Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
Turn it off and open all covers then put it in a jar with rice and let it be for a couple of hours.
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Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
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check the humidity paper behind the SD cover. should be white.
If its anything other than pure white then... ouch!
Like the other member suggests... Place in a air tight jar with rice and or salt. Then place in a warm cupboard
Make sure the device is off. This will absorb moisture.
You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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Only problem with having the device on and hot, is that evaporating the water will leave hard material behind. Like calcium and lime (what ever trace elements were in the water) This can cause issues later on.
it doesn't matter if it is evaporating fast or slow, it will still leave any solubles behind. You might be lucky in that the water that got there may have been vapour to start with
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Hallo
I have a HD2 (T8585) which accidentally was dropped into water. (There goes
the warranty into the water too). The phone was
opened and let to dry on a warm place for some time. Now, when I switch on
the HD2, I am unable to swich ON the mobile. The battery measures 3.8v.
I tried to switch ON the HD2 with the charger, but unsuccessful.
Can u share your experience / tips on repairing the same please.
The charging LED doesnt light on or the pressing the switch on button also
doesnt help.
This is a 3 month old HD2 in very good physical state ( but for water damage).
I really dont want to throw away such a nice phone or dismantle to parts
for spareparts price.
Please provide tips on what to check / measure after opening the
back cover > battery > 4 screws > ?
I have (2 cents worth) basic knowledge of electronics and would like to get it alive.
Thanks
Alertme
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The phone was
opened and let to dry on a warm place for some time.
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Depending on the length of time it was submerged and how it was "opened" to let dry, it is often possible to save a phone from contact with liquid.
Obviously absolute MINIMAL time in water or any other liquid will improve your chances, as well as immediate removal of the battery.
The phone should be disassembled as much as possible and excess liquid should be removed. The parts should then be placed in a warm (not hot!) location with low humidity such as in a bag with rice or silica packets (if handy) to absorb moisture. It should then be allowed to dry for at least 48 hours (the longer the better).
Since you did not state how long your phone was exposed to the liquid and exactly what steps you took to dry it, I cannot say whether or not it is possible to salvage it. The fact that it is not powering on or charging is definately not a good sign.
I have (2 cents worth) basic knowledge of electronics and would like to get it alive.
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Unfortunately it may require a bit more than 2 cents of electronic knowledge to repair severe water damage. Assuming it can be repaired at all...
If you want to try you need to remove the circuit boards and carefully clean any corrosion around all the contacts.
Use a q-tip and very soft toothbrush to remove corrosion. Distilled water or a pure alchohol or solvent that contains no oil or other ingredients and will evaporate compeltly can be used. This is a tedious process and every electrical component must be cleaned.
Once the componets are clean, carfully wash (if nessecary) and dry the circuit board and all electrical contacts. Place it in a warm dry bag (with rice or silica packets) and let it dry for at least 12hrs (longer is better). Do not use heat or direct sunlight to speed up the drying process. Once the compenents are dry again, reassemble your device. Make sure the battery is cleaned and dry as well. (If possible use an alternate battery.)
Power on the device. If you still get no power/charging/boot then swear loudly and punch a hole in the wall.
Good luck.
Fully Agree with your post faelok, sadly you did not complete your last sentence:
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...... then swear loudly and punch a hole in the wall.
Good luck.
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Take some glue and put the HD2 brick in it...
Wilco said:
Fully Agree with your post faelok, sadly you did not complete your last sentence:
Take some glue and put the HD2 brick in it...
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Ouch...
You know what I was thinking might be funny though? Take it out to a public place somewhere and pretend to have an angry conversation on it, then yell "OH YEA!?!? WELL $^%# YOU TOO!!" then smash it on the ground.
Then enjoy the reactions on the faces of the unsuspecting public.
Turn on everything( GPS, 4G radio and such) download a new rom and play music through the speaker
I'm hoping to overheat the phone enough to evaporate all the water haha
Well I'll see how it goes and ill report back soon
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Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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That^
It worked for my key fob that got lost in the snow for 3 months.
BlaydeX15 said:
Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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I've done that before but it wasn't exciting haha I thought I'd try this for some laughs but its actually working my cameras lenses that were foggy and aren't now and I keep catching some moisture in the housing
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Ahhhhhhh! No no no!
Take the battery out quick quick quick! If you have water damage the first thing you do is remove power to the device! Water isn't what damages an electronic device. In fact water itself in its purest form H2O isn't even an electrical conductor. Water conducts electricity when something is dissolved in it and the ions dissociate, allowing charge to be carried through the water. Therefore if there is a salt, or something, or in this case dust, it will be able to conduct electricity, which if two points of contact in the device are shorted it can be powerful enough to destroy it.
The rice thing can sometimes work, but if the device had a lot of water get inside it there will be water in all the nook and crannies, even inside the processor. If the physical damage is already done to one or many pieces of the electronics there may not be any fixing it.
However, there is always a possibility that the ionized water is shorting circuits and hasn't damaged anything yet. If the device is to the point where it will no longer turn on, or screen appears dead you have nothing to lose in trying to fix it. I have saved several devices in the scenario I just mentioned using a mild solvent. You need to find a tear down guide to disassemble it. When you have it taken apart you can soak each individual part in isopropyl alcohol. You need to use the purest isopropyl alcohol you can find, ideally 100% isopropyl alcohol so it doesn't contain ANY water. However if you can't find a place to get that quickly, locally, for low cost use 91% isopropyl alcohol from Walmart or any drug store. I have used that concentration to successfully cure two devices that wouldn't turn on after water damage.
Put the alcohol in a large enough container that the parts fit in, and completely submerge the parts, may even need to include the battery in the solution. Leave it there about ten minutes, occasionally swirling to get the alcohol deep inside everything, processor, etc. Then remove it from the alcohol and let it AIR dry. To be ultra safe let it air dry for twenty four hours. You can then reassemble the device and test.
Alcohol is very volatile in air, so it evaporates very quickly (specially if that air is heated). Water and alcohol are miscible, so it will remove the water from inside every part. Good luck!
Just take your phone back to sprint and get another....Im going to assume you have insurance. Why take a chance that the phone could sustain some long term damage? Get a shiny brand new one and call it a day..
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Just take your phone back to sprint and get another....Im going to assume you have insurance. Why take a chance that the phone could sustain some long term damage? Get a shiny brand new one and call it a day..
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I would agree with that but he/she might not have $100 to drop around for a new insurance replacement phone. I have heard though of some repair centers replacing water damaged phones with a sprint ordered replacement as long as the phone works.
Sad Panda is 100% correct on the alcohol, so follow his directions! Alcohol has a high affinity for water and acts as a drying agent, drawing the water out of every corner and crevice.
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Sad Panda is 100% correct on the alcohol, so follow his directions! Alcohol has a high affinity for water and acts as a drying agent, drawing the water out of every corner and crevice.
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+1 sad panda to save the day
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The only sensible thing to do would be to do what sad panda posted. What you're doing is just retarded.
I agree. I've been doing this for years on laptops. It also works well off you spill coke or tea on it. It also helps to brush off the components with a toothbrush while soaking them in alcohol.
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Bag of rice will work 99.9% of the time. Depends on how much water it got will depend on how long u need to leave it in there. If it still turns on overnight should work. Take battery off and seal it up.
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Hate to say it but it actually worked... No fog on the lenses, no foggy screen, capacitive buttons all work and respond, speakers sound just like they did before, I know it might just be dumb luck but it worked out and there's no visible signs of condensation I'm the phone so I'm a happy camper
I've done all the alcohol disassembling before but I only had a T6 instead of a T5 torx and I'm a broke college student so I didn't have rice so I tried my way and it worked! so continue with the bashing if you will
(Btw I have TEP but trying something new felt like a better thing to do than waste $100 on a 1.5 hboot replacement)
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I'm a broke college student so I didn't have rice so I tried my way and it worked!
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Dude, a bag of rice is like four dollars.
But your idea is possibly the worst thing you could do for a phone. ONLY reason it worked is because evidently the water didn't seep in enough to cause enough damage.
Running power through a wet phone is the easiest way to kill it. Don't count on it working again for you in the future, you're lucky as hell.
Wow! So happy for you that it worked, don't try it again though! Even for a broke college student a liter of alcohol is two bucks. There are lots of nice guys on here. Even I would have sent you my torx drivers for free to help you out!
Glad everything is a ok! Good job! Phew!
This is hilarious.
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If you have nothing to lose put the phone in bleach. it will bleach the water strip thing back white and leave the red lines. Let it dry then take it to sprint.
but only use this as a last resort. lol
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If you have nothing to lose put the phone in bleach. it will bleach the water strip thing back white and leave the red lines. Let it dry then take it to sprint.
but only use this as a last resort. lol
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To my knowledge this won't get the sticker back to white and still maintain the original red lines. Those stickers work just like litmus paper works, they react over the neutral range of the pH scale. Bleach should react with the red chromophores but I just don't see how it will turn from solid red to anything but solid white, or worse a solid pink.
Have you personally tried that? Also bleach is chlorine + water + uhhh, hypochlorite at equilibrium. Since that is the case, the dissociation of ions have the same property as water and salt, or water and dust as I described before, so as long as one understood you are making the water damage worse, you could do that....your electronic device would likely burn up when electricity was applied again.
Just throw it in the microwave. I'd set the microwave to "defrost" though, just to play it safe.
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Just throw it in the microwave. I'd set the microwave to "defrost" though, just to play it safe.
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today i experienced any phone holders worst nightmare... dropping your pride and joy in water!
but after this i quickly turned the phone off, used an hairdryer xD and put everything back in, and as if by magic, it was alive!!
although the screen did shatter :/
so is this amazing piece of technology really water proof?
No it is NOT.
You`re lucky this time, but if you ever send it in for any repair they may deny warranty because of the moisture indicators.
Most phones or any electronic devices for that matter survive a (short) drop in water due to multiple reasons:
- the case is relatively airtight. Water cannot immediately "flood" the device
- Water is a very bad electrical conductor (except if you drop it into saltwater or the unflushed toiled)
As far as conductivity is conserned, it's possible to run naked computers (no case, ...) in purified water.
However there an other issue kicks in: corrosin. Water is a very agressive substance (mainly due to oxygen) and will "eat" away electrical conductors very quickly and cause irreparable damages.
Drying off your phone may not be enough, it's recommended to:
- immediately pull the battery (that's one of the reasons I wouldn't want to get one with built-in battery)
- put it into a bag with dry rice and/or grounded herbs (whatever you have at hand) so that it's completely covered
- put it in a somewhat warm (or sunny) location so that the water vaporates and is taken up by the rice (You may want to stir once a day)
- keep fingers crossed and boot
Note that water-caused damage must not always be visible from the beginning. It's sufficient for a small component to die (e.g. a capacitor) so that in the following days/weeks/months the other parts overload too and the components start failing one after another.
Usually you're fine though.
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today i experienced any phone holders worst nightmare... dropping your pride and joy in water!
but after this i quickly turned the phone off, used an hairdryer xD and put everything back in, and as if by magic, it was alive!!
although the screen did shatter :/
so is this amazing piece of technology really water proof?
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good move on the hairdryer , just dont microwave it
Not waterproof
Defo lucky. Mine was simply rained upon whilst I was abroad and it is now not working - I didn't think of the hairdryer at the time. The company I sent it into for repairs said that the motherboard has corroded and that it needs replacing. Naturally, it will not turn on and I still want the data off of it though - any suggestions?
Lucky this time. Be careful... huh.
but some people have reported the same other forums. "Blumps, drying, works!"
No it isn't but in many cases a phone can be resurrected. Most important is to not turn it on until it is fully dry.
My friend dropped his S2 in about 50cm of salt / seawater while we were fishing. Took us a minute to find it. I used a knife to remove the screws and opened it up. Before that I rinsed it in fresh water. Let it dry for about an hour, put it back together and it worked just like before. That was 6 months ago and its still running fine.
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Just letting you guys know that this phone can survive being fully submerged under hot soup for atleast 5 seconds.
Backstory:
So, I was trying to watch a youtube video ergonomically over lunch in landscape mode. Hitting the volume key with my left hand made the phone slip and fall into my soup. I was in disbelief and took me about 5 seconds to take it out. Phone was still working, I powered it off and took it home to dry for a few hours.
It seemed to manage to turn itself on when I came back to check on it (Probably accidentally powered it back on when i was putting it in rice).
And it still works! I decided to take it apart anyway to clean the internals and remove the condensation on the internal camera lense cover; it was pretty dry inside. I faced a few hiccups taking it apart; Due to the rubbing alcohol I used, the screen came off of its harness and I had to superglue it back on) and I managed to nicked the case trying to pry things out.
I decided to test how much liquid the cavities would allow. For the headphone jack the way the water traversed (from pouring rubbing alcohol into the jack) It flows to the side and into the back panel barely touching the shielded chipsets. The other cavities are pretty well sealed and those areas were dry with no salty residue except for the cavity covers.
All in all, my lumia 800 lived to see another day :victory:
what kinda soup?
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what kinda soup?
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It was Vietnamese Pho, chicken broth basically.
Yep. On Monday I dropped my S4 in the pool and it spend a good 20 seconds underwater. It was in the deepest part of my pool and I wasn't about to jump into the cold water to get it. I have insurance and all that, so I just grabbed a net and pulled it out.
I was almost certain that this phone wouldn't be working no matter what I did. Still, I pulled the battery out the second I got it out of the water and stuck it in rice for about 24 hours. The first 10 hours or so I left it in a hot room that may have had 10% humidity, and the last 14 hours I put it in a dry, cold room.
Lo and behold this morning when I put the battery in and held the power button, it powered up! Everything works - earpiece, speaker, both mic's, notification light, proximity, IR, screen, digitizer, headphone jack, capacitive buttons/lights, home button, etc. etc. Everything works!
Pretty awesome to be honest, Wanted to gloat a bit.
Had that happen to my S3. It worked pretty good for a few days and then it would get VERY hot and battery would only last about 4 hours.
I found some corrosion on the mobo from the chlorinated pool water. Perhaps you won't have that issue but if you do, PM me and I'll let you know what drastic measure I took to fix it. I rather not put it out there to all in fear someone will do it and then blame me for any issues they have lol.
It took nothing but about $7.00 and my time.
Good luck!
video or it didn't happen.
haha jk that's awesome man!
This has inspired me to start showering with my phone.
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That's a awesome story there glad it still worked I do have a question did you have a case or no if so what?
FYI, If this happens to anyone else:
If an electronic device gets dunked in water one thing you can do is to disassemble it as far as you're comfortable doing and then re-dunk the device in distilled water. The distilled water will help remove residues left behind by tap water or pool water. Works best when said device is still wet from original dunk.
Then if you have some on hand, an electronics circuit cleaner can be sprayed liberally all over and in to displace the remaining water. The cleaning solvent will evaporate much faster and safer for the device.
Then I'd stick said device in a bag of rice in a heated room. And pray. Because more often then not it won't matter what you do the device will still be ruined.
Tried to recreate the pool drop......phone DID work fine, but screen cracked when it hit the ice. Gotta love Wisconsin!
Thats such crap! i get pulled into a pool by drunk friend with the S4 in my pocket. Wasnt even in the water for 10 seconds and my S4 never ever turned on again. I guess they are not all made equal lol
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FYI, If this happens to anyone else:
If an electronic device gets dunked in water one thing you can do is to disassemble it as far as you're comfortable doing and then re-dunk the device in distilled water. The distilled water will help remove residues left behind by tap water or pool water. Works best when said device is still wet from original dunk.
Then if you have some on hand, an electronics circuit cleaner can be sprayed liberally all over and in to displace the remaining water. The cleaning solvent will evaporate much faster and safer for the device.
Then I'd stick said device in a bag of rice in a heated room. And pray. Because more often then not it won't matter what you do the device will still be ruined.
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That sounds like it would be a good idea, using a clean water without any minerals, chemicals, etc. in it to go ahead and flush everything out. I didn't do this. I was cleaning my pool mainly because it hadn't been touched in a while and there wasn't any chlorine in the water. Usually that's bad for a pool owner, algae, but for me this time it seems to have been a blessing.
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Thats such crap! i get pulled into a pool by drunk friend with the S4 in my pocket. Wasnt even in the water for 10 seconds and my S4 never ever turned on again. I guess they are not all made equal lol
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It also depends on how well taken care of the water is. If it had a high chlorine level it can cause corrosion much faster than usual.
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That's a awesome story there glad it still worked I do have a question did you have a case or no if so what?
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Yep! I had this Cruzer-Light case on my phone at the time. It's extremely tight fitting on the device, usually peels off the back-cover whenever I take it off. I'm sure it helped because it sealed the edges along the back cover.
The water-strip underneath the battery on the phone and the strip on the battery triggered, but I didn't find any water on the SDCard or the SIM. So maybe the case helped with that a little bit.
Wow, that's amazing!