Just letting you guys know that this phone can survive being fully submerged under hot soup for atleast 5 seconds.
Backstory:
So, I was trying to watch a youtube video ergonomically over lunch in landscape mode. Hitting the volume key with my left hand made the phone slip and fall into my soup. I was in disbelief and took me about 5 seconds to take it out. Phone was still working, I powered it off and took it home to dry for a few hours.
It seemed to manage to turn itself on when I came back to check on it (Probably accidentally powered it back on when i was putting it in rice).
And it still works! I decided to take it apart anyway to clean the internals and remove the condensation on the internal camera lense cover; it was pretty dry inside. I faced a few hiccups taking it apart; Due to the rubbing alcohol I used, the screen came off of its harness and I had to superglue it back on) and I managed to nicked the case trying to pry things out.
I decided to test how much liquid the cavities would allow. For the headphone jack the way the water traversed (from pouring rubbing alcohol into the jack) It flows to the side and into the back panel barely touching the shielded chipsets. The other cavities are pretty well sealed and those areas were dry with no salty residue except for the cavity covers.
All in all, my lumia 800 lived to see another day :victory:
what kinda soup?
poope said:
what kinda soup?
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It was Vietnamese Pho, chicken broth basically.
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Hey Everyone.
While sitting on my living room floor, I dropped my Prime & Dock from about a foot high onto the carpet. Murphy's Law: Gravity will always exert a greater force on the weakest part of your device. The Prime landed on the charging connector. I thought for sure the wire itself would be kinked up and broken (My mind is racing: "can I get a new cable from somewhere in less than 18 hours?! Argh!") As it turns out, the cable was fine, but the port itself was broken.
The little plastic comb that separates the upper pins from the lower pins was broken and had fallen out. I figured I would have to send the dock into Asus to be repaired one way or another, so I thought I'd take a stab at a repair. I used my smallest two flathead screwdrivers (PC-repair sized) to gently bend the upper pins further up and the lower pins lower down. I describe how little of an adjustment I'm talking about here- it has to create just enough room for you to slip the comb piece back in, but not be so much that the charge wire won't flatten them back down when you first connect it.
To make the comb stick, I used the smallest imaginable amount of superglue at either end of the comb piece. It seems the plastic is a little thicker there and there aren't any pins (that might get coated with glue) at the very ends. I used small needle-nose pliers to insert the comb and held it tight for a few seconds. I then put the dock in position so that the comb was facing straight up, so that gravity (grrr) wouldn't pull the comb piece down out of perfect vertical alignment while the glue cured. I left it overnight just to be safe.
Next morning, I plugged in the power connector and all was well. I've probably plugged and unplugged it 20 times or so now, and it feels reasonably solid. Mind you, I have NO doubt that this fix is temporary. The second I trip on the power cord or forget to be gentle with the device that superglue is going to let go. At that point maybe I'll send the dock off for repair. I just couldn't part with it this early on, knowing Asus is dealing with about a zillion more important fish to fry right now.
So, If you happen to have the same problem- give some glue a shot. It worked for me!
Kudos! I can't ask you to recreate and photo lol
But if anyone else runs into this, please take some macros of the process to give people a good idea of just how much bending of the pins is needed.
Naturally. I thought of taking pictures the next morning after everything was working again.
If the comb breaks out again, I'll probably attempt one more repair before I send it to Asus. If and when that happens I'll post up some pics.
As far as the bending of pins, I just pressed gently and tried to insert the comb piece with pliers. If it seemed too difficult to do with glue on the broken piece, I just set it down and pried on the pins a bit more. I guess if you looked at them, you would have been hard-pressed to tell if they were any wider than normal. The telling fact was being able to slide the broken piece back into the pins fairly easily. Once I could do that, I actually applied the glue, inserted the piece, and let it set up.
Yep. On Monday I dropped my S4 in the pool and it spend a good 20 seconds underwater. It was in the deepest part of my pool and I wasn't about to jump into the cold water to get it. I have insurance and all that, so I just grabbed a net and pulled it out.
I was almost certain that this phone wouldn't be working no matter what I did. Still, I pulled the battery out the second I got it out of the water and stuck it in rice for about 24 hours. The first 10 hours or so I left it in a hot room that may have had 10% humidity, and the last 14 hours I put it in a dry, cold room.
Lo and behold this morning when I put the battery in and held the power button, it powered up! Everything works - earpiece, speaker, both mic's, notification light, proximity, IR, screen, digitizer, headphone jack, capacitive buttons/lights, home button, etc. etc. Everything works!
Pretty awesome to be honest, Wanted to gloat a bit.
Had that happen to my S3. It worked pretty good for a few days and then it would get VERY hot and battery would only last about 4 hours.
I found some corrosion on the mobo from the chlorinated pool water. Perhaps you won't have that issue but if you do, PM me and I'll let you know what drastic measure I took to fix it. I rather not put it out there to all in fear someone will do it and then blame me for any issues they have lol.
It took nothing but about $7.00 and my time.
Good luck!
video or it didn't happen.
haha jk that's awesome man!
This has inspired me to start showering with my phone.
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That's a awesome story there glad it still worked I do have a question did you have a case or no if so what?
FYI, If this happens to anyone else:
If an electronic device gets dunked in water one thing you can do is to disassemble it as far as you're comfortable doing and then re-dunk the device in distilled water. The distilled water will help remove residues left behind by tap water or pool water. Works best when said device is still wet from original dunk.
Then if you have some on hand, an electronics circuit cleaner can be sprayed liberally all over and in to displace the remaining water. The cleaning solvent will evaporate much faster and safer for the device.
Then I'd stick said device in a bag of rice in a heated room. And pray. Because more often then not it won't matter what you do the device will still be ruined.
Tried to recreate the pool drop......phone DID work fine, but screen cracked when it hit the ice. Gotta love Wisconsin!
Thats such crap! i get pulled into a pool by drunk friend with the S4 in my pocket. Wasnt even in the water for 10 seconds and my S4 never ever turned on again. I guess they are not all made equal lol
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FYI, If this happens to anyone else:
If an electronic device gets dunked in water one thing you can do is to disassemble it as far as you're comfortable doing and then re-dunk the device in distilled water. The distilled water will help remove residues left behind by tap water or pool water. Works best when said device is still wet from original dunk.
Then if you have some on hand, an electronics circuit cleaner can be sprayed liberally all over and in to displace the remaining water. The cleaning solvent will evaporate much faster and safer for the device.
Then I'd stick said device in a bag of rice in a heated room. And pray. Because more often then not it won't matter what you do the device will still be ruined.
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That sounds like it would be a good idea, using a clean water without any minerals, chemicals, etc. in it to go ahead and flush everything out. I didn't do this. I was cleaning my pool mainly because it hadn't been touched in a while and there wasn't any chlorine in the water. Usually that's bad for a pool owner, algae, but for me this time it seems to have been a blessing.
Gator Brah said:
Thats such crap! i get pulled into a pool by drunk friend with the S4 in my pocket. Wasnt even in the water for 10 seconds and my S4 never ever turned on again. I guess they are not all made equal lol
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It also depends on how well taken care of the water is. If it had a high chlorine level it can cause corrosion much faster than usual.
swordmastr54 said:
That's a awesome story there glad it still worked I do have a question did you have a case or no if so what?
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Yep! I had this Cruzer-Light case on my phone at the time. It's extremely tight fitting on the device, usually peels off the back-cover whenever I take it off. I'm sure it helped because it sealed the edges along the back cover.
The water-strip underneath the battery on the phone and the strip on the battery triggered, but I didn't find any water on the SDCard or the SIM. So maybe the case helped with that a little bit.
Wow, that's amazing!
Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
Turn it off and open all covers then put it in a jar with rice and let it be for a couple of hours.
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Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
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check the humidity paper behind the SD cover. should be white.
If its anything other than pure white then... ouch!
Like the other member suggests... Place in a air tight jar with rice and or salt. Then place in a warm cupboard
Make sure the device is off. This will absorb moisture.
You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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Only problem with having the device on and hot, is that evaporating the water will leave hard material behind. Like calcium and lime (what ever trace elements were in the water) This can cause issues later on.
it doesn't matter if it is evaporating fast or slow, it will still leave any solubles behind. You might be lucky in that the water that got there may have been vapour to start with
I have noticed that the rear glass area around the micro USB and sim is ever so slightly raised meeting the side plastic molding instead of being below it like the rest of the glass. I can get it to close for longer rather than pressing it if I place a soft sprung clothes pin clamping the area. I know everything isn't going to be perfect but should I be worried or do you other z3v users notice anything uneven with the adhesive on the back glass?
I have none whatsoever. It could be a precursor to battery expansion. I say that not knowing the position of the battery, rather having a battery expand on me in the past.
The phone is just over a month old plus the battery ends before the sim and micro usb. Even though my phone is my access to the web by using foxfi, the battery drain isnt heavy and it can be left on for 10 hrs+ before 30% active use, for example, from 8:45 am to 7:45pm it just started to creep into the upper 20's. Its "cool" to the touch considering my room can get warm up to 84F because of the open air desktop and tv as a monitor. When Qi charging it is also cooled by a 120mm delta elect. computer case fan.
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I have noticed that the rear glass area around the micro USB and sim is ever so slightly raised meeting the side plastic molding instead of being below it like the rest of the glass. I can get it to close for longer rather than pressing it if I place a soft sprung clothes pin clamping the area. I know everything isn't going to be perfect but should I be worried or do you other z3v users notice anything uneven with the adhesive on the back glass?
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have you tried heating it up with a hair dryer or heat gun to activate the adhesive then clamping it?
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have you tried heating it up with a hair dryer or heat gun to activate the adhesive then clamping it?
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No I haven't. I don't have a proper clamp so just try some stiff sprung clothes pins with Popsicle sticks to make even pressure.
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No I haven't. I don't have a proper clamp so just try some stiff sprung clothes pins with Popsicle sticks to make even pressure.
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I would still try applying heat, then just hold it in place for a few minutes until it cools and see if that works.
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I would still try applying heat, then just hold it in place for a few minutes until it cools and see if that works.
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I just tried your method after my last post and it looks and feels to be holding up well. I had thought about trying it before but I had never gotten around to it because I also wanted to ask around to see if it was normal.
Thanks
Late Update: It didn't hold up. It went back to its original state the next day or so in reference with the original thread date date.
I will try again and clamp it for longer than the 15-20 min I tried at first.
I just found out that the raised portion is now an air gap so it fails the pressure test if that edge isnt pressed down after an hr or 2.
I managed to drop my phone into a toilet. Oy! There was only water in the toilet, but it’s still gross. So once I fished it out I had to rinse it, i.e. more water. Then I dumped it into a bowl full of alcohol (70%). I had to. OK, so phone is sort of clean now but appears dead. I had it overnight in a bag of rice and now all it does is a short vibration when I hold the power button and that’s it. I’ve removed the back cover to help with drying. As far as I can tell, there’s no water (or alcohol) inside. I've also tried charging it, but that does nothing.
That’s the story so far… :crying:
I’m keeping it in the bag of rice and if anybody has some suggestions, I’m all ears.