Is flippin impossible! After peeling it off the backing it promptly got a load of finger prints on which are impossible to get it out.
It says to fit using soapy water then to push it out with a credit very nervous about doing that as i don't want to get water down the speaker hole, or down the lip on the edge of the screen.
Anybody got any suggestions?
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Is flippin impossible! After peeling it off the backing it promptly got a load of finger prints on which are impossible to get it out.
It says to fit using soapy water then to push it out with a credit very nervous about doing that as i don't want to get water down the speaker hole, or down the lip on the edge of the screen.
Anybody got any suggestions?
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These are a real pain, i will tell you what i did.
1) Place a damp tissue firmly around a credit card
2) Peel a bit of the backing of the screen protector, near the speaker and camera side.
3) Line the exposed screen protector up with the phone, (this is tricky, as if it does not line exactly you will end up with air pockets)
4) Using the credit card with the tissue paper, slide it firmly from the top down to the bottom, ensuring that you pull the backing out as you go along.
If all goes well, then hopefully no air pockets.
They certainly are tricky but not impossible as my mate did a superb job on his - you can barely tell it's there!
I tried doing what he described but still it isn't perfect.
He said to use a spray bottle with soapy water (not too much soap)
Remove the backing & spray the underneath of the protector & let any excessive water drip off.
Then use a credit card to 'squeegee' the water out after you position the protector in place against the screen.
It looks bad for a day or two even once the bubbles are out but it improves.
It's true though, they should have made it about 0.3 mm less wide so it fits better on the screen.
dam.. those things are always triky!!
The following will run through the experience of the installation process and comparison with EXiM PET dry install screen protectors and Wrapsol Wet apply body protection.
(Reportedly, Zagg is also similar to Skinomi)
Type:
Installation: WET
Light Permeability: High (ultra clear, glossy)
Prior to Installation:
The protector material is packaged in a tube. Opening the package cap reveals a rolled up screen protector, an instruction guide, squeegee and spray solution. The protector was unrolled and flattened for several days prior to installation.
Installation:
bathroom was steamed up to settle the dust, the screen was cleaned with a mircofibre cloth dipped in 99% Isopropyl.
Compressed air was used to blast off any dust particles on the screen
The protector material was peeled and sprayed with solution
The protector material is elastic / stretchy.
-If my experience with Wrapsol's body protection material that was also stretchy is any indication, caution must be used during installation to avoid accidental excessive stretching which caused permanent deformation of the material. Once the material is over stretched, the holes, edges, etc will be unaligned, rendering the protector useless.
-There is no stretchiness with EXiM PET or any dry install screen protectors
Installation took a few tries before perfect alignment was achieved.
-on several occasions when I tried to realign one part of the screen protector (hoping the rest of the material would follow as with ridged dry PET protectors), the material would instead stretch, so I had to lift the whole screen protector for alignment to avoid stretching and deformation.
After alignment, I used a micro cloth to push all the solution (which is hopefully demineralized to prevent electrical conductivity)
-a micro cloth was used instead of the squeegee provided to minimize damage to the overly soft protector material.
-the material is dentable even with mere accidental stab of a finger nail (not so with ridged dry install PET protectors).
I noticed it's almost impossible to see remaining dust specs due to under lying liquid solution, so you'll just have to hope you did a good job of cleaning prior to installation
First day of application:
-Foggy screen (reportedly disappears after a few days)
-Dented protector (the material is too soft and is pretty much useless to protect itself) (unless this characteristic ALSO disappears and becomes hard material in a few days..., can't recommend)
Second day:
-Majority of the fogginess from the microbubbles have disappeared, a minority of it remains, ~2% of the screen
-material remains soft and malleable
-one dust spec found
Fourth Day:
-Several dents on the screen protector remain from the installation process and more will come from even the slightest impact of a pointy object.
-This material is simply too soft. It is a poor choice of material if longevity is the aim of the protector.
-all microbubbles disappeared
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This stuff is a joke.
the EXiM PET protectors are half the price and twice the quality.
I used to have a manually modified Apple IPAD EXiM PET protector installed for their lack of the Transformer version available on eBay for $12. Now I can tell the EXiM is definitely better both in installation process and usability.
Light permeability might be a little better with this Skinomi protector as it is thinner than the PET dry install protectors. But I can not be completely sure. I am comparing an old PET installation with weeks of accumulated finger prints and other grime to a brand new installation of Skinomi. So the comparison isn't on equal footing.
PROs:
high light permeability, thin
more Fingerprint resistant (more so than Dry Apply EXiM)
CONs:
difficult installation
-hard to realign (due to stretchiness, requires total lift of material for realignment)
-stretchiness (prone to accidental deformation during installation)
-difficult to see dust specs until a while after installation due to necessary spray solution
poor usability on 1st day post installation (delay in fog dissipation)
poor longevity (soft material very vulnerable to dents and scratches)
-extremely vulnerable to vinegar (cause permanent blur smear)
-extremely vulnerable to isopropyl (cause permanent blur smear)
RECOMMENDED?: No
I just bought my Eee Pad Transformer about two weeks ago and finally got the keyboard dock with it also. I also got this purchase on the Skinomi Screen Protector but has yet to arrive to my doorstep but thank you for the review. I'll see if I want to to test this on my Eee pad Transformer.
Thanks again for a good detailed review.
klau1 sorry if the Skinomi didn't work out for you. The vulnerability to dents is one of the problems I have with it, but I can live with it. Thanks for the review. Oh well if anyone else need a video how-to I have made one below for reference.
http://youtu.be/vWj9Uss65cQ
I would add to the cons... getting the thing off after you've had it on for a few weeks is ridiculous... I thought I was going to break the damn screen. To me that's just unacceptable. I replaced mine because where it touched the dock, the surface marred... agreed that this is crap.
I did end up buying this one on amazon and am very happy http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-P...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1309202152&sr=8-1
Easy to install, no fingerprints, cuts the glare, and easy to lift up with scotch tape and remove any dust deposited during install.. and it's not that expensive.
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I would add to the cons... getting the thing off after you've had it on for a few weeks is ridiculous... I thought I was going to break the damn screen. To me that's just unacceptable. I replaced mine because where it touched the dock, the surface marred... agreed that this is crap.
I did end up buying this one on amazon and am very happy http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-P...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1309202152&sr=8-1
Easy to install, no fingerprints, cuts the glare, and easy to lift up with scotch tape and remove any dust deposited during install.. and it's not that expensive.
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Usually Matte ones that cut glare, also cut contrast or clarity. How does the picture quality compare with the Skinomi ?
lopan said:
I would add to the cons... getting the thing off after you've had it on for a few weeks is ridiculous... I thought I was going to break the damn screen. To me that's just unacceptable. I replaced mine because where it touched the dock, the surface marred... agreed that this is crap.
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Did you try to put a mild soap solution on the protector before removing it? It might help get it back to becoming more flexible.
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Usually Matte ones that cut glare, also cut contrast or clarity. How does the picture quality compare with the Skinomi ?
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I have one of these from posr.us. Really does cut on the glare, but is not very smooth on the fingers and also reduces clarity/contrast like you mentioned.
I think I am still going to try the skinomi.
THIS SH*T IS A JOKE and SCAM!!!
Use a bit of rubbing alcohol or 99% isopropyl and it blurs over.
There is now a blotch of blurriness on the spot I briefly rubbed with the alcohol and quickly stopped.
DO NOT BUY!
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THIS SH*T IS A JOKE and SCAM!!!
Use a bit of rubbing alcohol or 99% isopropyl and it blurs over.
There is now a blotch of blurriness on the spot I briefly rubbed with the alcohol and quickly stopped.
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This also happened to me - don't use anything other than a mild vinegar solution to clean the screen w/ this protector on it or else you'll get this blur/white patch effect - it ruins the entire screen protector.
Great review, thanks lots of useful information.
I got the silver carbon fiber back from skinomi and I love it. It makes the back of the TF look so cool. I only installed the back because I didn't like the pieces for the side and stuff. I kept the screen protector for future use because I got a SGP anti-glare protector which I love also. The finger prints just disappear, well almost lol.
I couldn't disagree more with this review. My skinomi went on without any problems and looks great, can't even tell there is a protector on it.
How on earth do you get 'dents' on it during installation is beyond me......did you put it on with a knife and fork? There are many reviews and installation videos showing how easy it is and how good the skinomi looks when installed properly.
klau1 said:
THIS SH*T IS A JOKE and SCAM!!!
Use a bit of rubbing alcohol or 99% isopropyl and it blurs over.
There is now a blotch of blurriness on the spot I briefly rubbed with the alcohol and quickly stopped.
DO NOT BUY!
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UPDATE:
CAUTION
ANOTHER Blur smear created by SubWay's (TM) Sweat Onion Chicken Terriakyi sub.
I was eating a sub when I accidentally made contact between the sub and the skinomi protector screen, some "sweet onion sauce" was smeared on the screen, when I wiped it with a napkin, ANOTHER blur was left behind just like with the isopropyl.
so even light vinegar will ruin this piece of crap.
I got the Skinomi for its full body skin... of course im already using something else as a screen protector...
thanks for the update!
would love to read anyone else's reviews on this product!
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After weeks of usage, it's proven to be:
Pro:
more Fingerprint resistant (more so than Dry Apply EXiM)
I bought two for my gtab....the first one had a deep scratch in it right out of the box and the second one went on like crap. I also see what appears to be bubbles in the material in spots.
you can pretty much just duplicate this review for the bodyguardz ultra clear screen protector. the same rolled up packaging. the same pain in the ass installation with alignment issues(although this isnt their fault ill admit.) i did the same tactics minus the cleaning with alcohol before hand and after a week I still had these ugly " blotches" on my screen. after a week. emailed bodyguardz and the rep said it was from lack of solution used. thats funny because i used 2 vials of the solution. ( i had one left over from my phone screen protector) anyways, i think im just gonna rock the tab without a screen protector. i have a decent case which it never leaves, i should be good.
while the Zagg is similar in installation i never had any of the problems you had installing it. The zagg doesnt come in a tube its flat out of the box. i Swear by the zagg, i have installed it on 4 iphones , a n1, ipad, Inspire 4g and now my transformer. while the zagg stretches ever so slightly you shouldnt be pushing so hard on it with the squeegee thiers is a rubber squeegee and works great. The Zagg also allows alot of light to come through and seems almost as good screen clarity as if it wasnt on. It cleans easily and resist finger prints, i have never noticed any denting either with the Zagg.
^ if you can confirm that the zagg doesnt have the " orange peel" feel on the transformer screen protector i will order one right now.
Iirc, zagg will yelow over time, and it is thicker so might result in lower light permeability
So thought I'd share this as I think I have figured out the best way to stick one on without bubbles!
Before anyone states that a screen protector is pointless because there already is one on blah blah, I disagree because I just like the reassurance that if the screen gets scratched it doesn't matter. Plus that preapplied screen protector is very good and well applied (obviously) so its a waste just to use that as a protector alone.
On my older phones I have always ended up scraping the screen protector because the bubbles annoy me so much, and they're a pain to apply. But with the XS I tried and got it perfect, thought it was just luck, but did it again and achieved a good result again.
First turn of the phone for 10 minutes (apparently the heat can cause bubbles) Wash your hands, clean a desk area and take your top of (wear a tshirt)
then clean the screen, its obviously but really clean it (I use a wet wipe and then dry it off with a clean cotton top) if you have the special cloth use this too.
Get a lamp and shine it on the screen check for any streak marks and polish these away until the screen is perfect. Blow gentle to remove any dust particles small hairs etc. I have found in the past that bubbles often have a hair in the middle of them which prevents the protector from not properly sticking.
Now the tricky bit, pull at the '1' tab to remove the protector sheet, but do this with that side facing downwards (so that any dirt in the air wont land on the sticky side) and lower it towards the screen.
Align the corners with THE TOP of the phone next to the sony logo and curve the protector so that the top of the protector touches the screen (the area around the speaker grill and logo. Double check that everything is aligned so it will fit perfectly when you lay down the rest of it. Don't worry about any bubbles here as they can be squeezed out easily (due to the speaker grill).
Now grab a card of some sort, my driving licence seems to work best and place it where the top of the screen protector has been applied. With the right hand keep holding the protector at the edge of it, and with your left hand firmly press down the card and slide towards the bottom of the phone. (be firm at this point don't worry the screen will be fine it can take this pressure!)
Slide all the way down and look at your job. hopefully there should be only a few bubbles around the edge, if there are ones in the centre then carefully peel it up and try again. (don't touch the sticky side obviously and make sure you don't touch the screen.
The bubbles around the edges and around the speaker grill can be squeezed out using the card. Go over it a few times and then pull the protector sheet '2' tab off. And there ya go a nicely applied screen protector!
I tried to be as detailed as possible but may post pictures later if people require them.
hey guys can someone recommend the best screen protector for front and back that is ultra clear and not fingerprint magnet, and easy to install as i keep getting dust particles that cause bubbles and this is really a pain spending money on protectors i have to throw away because of installation issues
hykhleif said:
hey guys can someone recommend the best screen protector for front and back that is ultra clear and not fingerprint magnet, and easy to install as i keep getting dust particles that cause bubbles and this is really a pain spending money on protectors i have to throw away because of installation issues
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Options:
These are the only two I have tried. Super Shieldz was easier to apply, and was easy to slide your finger over... perfect. XtremeGuard attracted dust, and could not remove due to its stickiness, but is very thick. So may be more heavyduty
XtremeGuard - LINK Very clear visibility. Thick, tough. stretchable. Sticky. Once on, if you remove you'll need to throw away. (so any dust under it will be an instant throw away)
Super Sheildz - LINK Matte, anti fingerprint. Thin, stiff. Rigid. Easy to apply, remove and reapply.
Using water to apply screen protectors makes the job easy. Remember that screen protectors will allow water to evaporate through, it may just take a few days.
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These are the only two I have tried. Super Shieldz was easier to apply, and was easy to slide your finger over... perfect. XtremeGuard attracted dust, and could not remove due to its stickiness, but is very thick. So may be more heavyduty
XtremeGuard - LINK Very clear visibility. Thick, tough. stretchable. Sticky. Once on, if you remove you'll need to throw away. (so any dust under it will be an instant throw away)
Super Sheildz - LINK Matte, anti fingerprint. Thin, stiff. Rigid. Easy to apply, remove and reapply.
Using water to apply screen protectors makes the job easy. Remember that screen protectors will allow water to evaporate through, it may just take a few days.
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Super Shieldz on ebay on covers the front and not the back
can anyone recommend best front and back screen protector
Ski noemi or bestskinsever
hykhleif said:
Super Shieldz on ebay on covers the front and not the back
can anyone recommend best front and back screen protector
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yes. if it were me i would grab a super sheild for the front and this for the back.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/for-Sony-Xp...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item4177b3f92c
But the link i provided isnt a matt finish so you will get a lot of reflection in light. so just use that for the rear cover.
So after much thought i considered the pros and the cons of removing the film and decided to remove it as the oleophobic had worn away in less than 2 months. This will give you the information you need to remove it if you wish and how to do it properly without damage to your device or at least help you to not damage it.
1st. The tools you will need are as follows
1. razor blade thinner and or flat at one end
2. nail polish remover ( to remove the glue after)
3. cloth of some kind microfiber preferred 2 works best
4. "Recommended if no screen protector replacement"
Rain-x or some kind of wax or an oleophobic coating apply several coats
5. band aids or tape for your fingers as they will be put through alot of pushing and will be raw afterward
so know that this won't come in 1 sheet it will be coming off in chips and if your lucky it will come in larger chips and small sheets. when you start pick a corner that you can get at easlily. once you get a little up know that your going for a large enough area that you can get the entire blade under so you can slide it forward under the sheet as this will provide the least amount of damage if any the screen won't scratch this way but if you take the blade sliding up or down it will leave scratches so alway push the blade forward and leave it at a tilt just enough to get the sheet there is a layer of glue just as thick under. if you can see the glue when it comes up your doing well.
==warning== while you scrap this blade across your device be cautious not to get the sides of it as they are just high enough they will get scraped and nicked
after you have removed all the film you will need to use the nail polish remover to get the glue off it will come off slowly and there will be alot of small balls as it is moved off some will desolve the rest will come off in small balls. dont be afraid to use plenty it will make it will make it easier.
after all this wash with water only scrub clean and dry then apply a coating or screen protector whichever you wish .
==Important== know if you use wax some will get into the sides if your not careful with enough water and and cloth you can get access out. best to use waxes that are clear or liquid ones work well.
if you have any questions or if i have left anything out pls ask
Once you've peeled up 1 corner, you can use a credit card instead of a blade to slide it forward. It's safer that way.
If you're a single man and don't have nail polish remover, you can use concentrated alcohol instead. Cloth, Q-tips and rubbing alcohol worked really well for me.