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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
I have never used CM7 since I just got my Touchpad a few weeks ago when CM9 was out. But CM9 is stable. Just doesnt have camera or mic working. I dont know if these issues are the same with CM7. But if your mom has no need for all the apps android has to offer, she can just use webOS which is more stable than both CM7 and CM9.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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Dont bother at all with CM7. CM9 and other ICS roms are far more stable. Pretty much everything works except for the camera and microphone. Battery life is nowhere near as good as in webOS, expect about 2 days of standby or about 5 hours of constant usage. Some people have wifi issues, but they're more often than not fixed by setting the router to avoid higher channels (keep it on 6 or below). The vibrate motor also for some reason stops working after the device goes into sleep, and the only way to get it going again is to reboot but I dont think that's a big issue for anyone.
As for a ROM, I'd recommend CM9 not because its the best but because its the one I'm most familiar with, and I can say its fairly stable. Sometimes it will randomly reboot, but never while actively using it. I'm using a nightly, but since you're giving this to a family member you might be better off with the better tested Alpha 2.
Stable Rom: Classicnerd
For me the most stable rom has been classicnerd's latest version. I have been using it and donot get any force closes or reboots. You can find the latest version at classicnerd.net/Betas/
as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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Dual booting is the only way to do it. As far as I know, you cant replace webOS. When you follow the instructions to install android, you also install what is called a moboot that lets you select which operating system to boot into when starting the device. Switching between the two is easy and is just a matter of restarting your device.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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CM7, yes.
Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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Just depends on how adept she is at technology. If she can decently run a computer and text, she should be mostly okay. The one thing I would highly recommend is to make sure she can fix the wifi authentication problem. Basically, every now and then, wifi will have an authentication problem. When this happens, she needs to go to wifi settings, forget the router, toggle wifi off/on, and sign back into the router. This problem usually occurs for me when I leave wifi on and then reboot or get a random reboot. Takes maybe a minute to fix. As far as ROM, I like oat's light and tasty, although they're all pretty good, as they have the same base.
Sorry, I have to get this out of my system, then I'll be back to polite nice Canadian. In short, try one and see.
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One of these days, people will actually glance through the forums as opposed to posting a new thread. This thread has been duplicated many other times before now.
In the end, again, just grab one, take it for a spin, and try it. Start with the more official ones, and work out from there until you find something you like. If nothing suits your fancy, take the source and make your own. It's pretty simple. So please stop spamming the boards with "Which ROM should I use" threads. </rant mode off>
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Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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I have tried CN and others but, I think that Oat's light n' tasty is the best so far. All my games run great and so does netflix and YouTube. But, a Rom is only good if it runs the apps you like. You I'll have to find the one that works best for you. I still think webOS is still good. Just my $0.02
I figured one more opinion can't hurt.
I've been using AOKP on my touchpad ever since I found out that they build roms for hp touchpads. It's great, so is CM9 but for some reason my touchpad refuses to behave with CM9, I'm talking random reboots, wifi issues, SOD (screen of death), and so on. ClassicNerd is also great too but I fell in love with the ROM control options available with AOKP.
Either way, one of the earlier posts mentioned that battery life is weak with ICS which is NOT the case for me, I always have wifi on, with my CPU overclocked to the maximum available frequency and get about 7 days, yes 7 DAYS, of standby and at least a full day of constant use.
As for skype, it is not fully functional with all android devices, just the few that the skype people officially support, I've tried it on my phone and it gave me a lot of issues, so even if the mic and cam were working I doubt skype would work well enough on the TP.
Obviously as others have mentioned earlier ICS is much better on the TP than GB, plus you have the great option of dual booting so you could always use WebOS which is pretty decent itself.
All in all, the TP was a great $100 investment and has a lot of support from some great devs out there. My almost 3 years old nephew has one and he loves it too lol
if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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I found your answer on another thread:
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I read somewhere that the tweaks were in one way or another no longer relevant or in some form had been incorporated into Android starting with Gingerbread... I think the post is actually in this thread. I myself was using it for a while but after reading that I stopped flashing it and haven't missed it
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Hello people, I am unrooted and have enjoyed my ATRIX 4g even though I have been stuck with the final ginger bread ota release at&t gave us and have waited patiently for the promised ota ICS upgrade which they now posted we will not get, I am aware that there is a Leak Test ICS that is buggy, and have been mods made or provided over here by your awesome developers bringing our devices up to JB level even, but am a fan of the functioning camera and finger print biometrics personally. I am a noob as far as Android rooting but very tech savvy and with devices and software in general, every app I have wanted to use has been great on this phone regardless of what version it was made for until today... I am quite into photo editing and have a ton of photo edit apps and engage in IG a bit, we as the underdogs over at IG were always fighting to make our tweaks and edits look as good as an Iphone edit mainly because they had an app called Snapseed, I was very pleased. When I read google had purchased this app drom NIK software a month ago and today it was finally released for Android, I went to Google Play and it for the first time ever said this app is not compatible with your device, it needs 4.0 or above in other words ICS, now my main question here is if I did root flash a mod similar to ICS or the unstable leak version will Google play still just see the signature of my phone and not allow a download or if I was running a new os would it get around that issue, I did also write the developer but doubt they are too concerned about making the app backward compatible as Google also purchased Motorola and offer a mere $100.00 towards upgrading to a different moto phone and I love this ine and do not have the money at the noment to do so.. any advice would be greatly appteciated, as to a a suitable os and whether or not it would even allow us Atrix 4g users to download Snapseed if our phone is recognized by its name and autodetection by googlr play tegardlrss of os, I mean it's a fast phone I've had no problems, everything works, dual core, good ram, speed stirage etc.. thanks Stu
Shows up fine on EPinter's CM10. Market just checks what version of Android your device is using. I haven't installed it to check, but will be doing so shortly. I'll get back to you about how it fairs on our devices.
Edit: After about 10 mins of playing around, it's running pretty well. No noticeable lag whatsoever. Kinda regret paying for PicSay Pro since this one seems to have a simpler UI.
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Thank you
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Shows up fine on EPinter's CM10. Market just checks what version of Android your device is using. I haven't installed it to check, but will be doing so shortly. I'll get back to you about how it fairs on our devices.
Edit: After about 10 mins of playing around, it's running pretty well. No noticeable lag whatsoever. Kinda regret paying for PicSay Pro since this one seems to have a simpler UI.
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Thanks very much sir, I will now have to look into this EPinter's CM10 and learn the whole process and hopefully not brick my phone, I'm good with directions, does the CM10 have a working camera and fingerprint scanner, and can I save my whole phone image if it all went south? I also paid for PicSayPro and many others too, love graphic arts and photography so the cam although only 5mp is important at times.
Anyway thanks very much yet again for the info.
No problem. Yes, you should make a nandroid backup once you have a custom recovery. It is one of the recommended steps followed by an exclamation mark. =P The only thing lacking on EPinter's CM10 is video camera (related to missing HWA due to improper kernel source) Regular camera works fine for still shots. I use camera fx & camera 360, both work without any issues. And No, the fingerprint scanner doesn't work since it's not a part of CM source.
There is an unofficial, "official" ICS (ICSROM & ATRICS) that has proper HWA with video camera and fingerprint scanner but the battery life is terrible and the phone gets really hot. I personally had random restarts every few minutes.EPinter's CM10 does well as a daily driver, but if you're going to go through the trouble, might as well try all the roms available! =D
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Thanks very much for this info, I will research these downloads, I watched a youtube vid of cm10 and looked good, seems the Atrix is a bit more of a pain to work with than other Androids but will look into the whole process of unlocking and fastboots and the nanandroid back up etc.
Greatly appreciate the help.
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Yes, the Atrix is a pain compared others, but once rooted with a custom recovery (IMHO RomRacer's custom CWM 5.0.2.7 is the best, never had issues) it's just like any other device. Heck, I remember flashing 3-4 ROMs a day, it was insane! =P
I would recommend downloading Titanium Backup from the market as well. It will help you quickly backup your most used apps w/ data/settings and reinstall them after installing a new ROM. Good luck and have fun.
P.S. Thanks for Snapseed!
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Currently, I'm stock+root (as it seems none of the ROMs were super-solid, based on the various lengths of forums for each ROM).
I'm currently considering Infection 2.1, which looks great. I'm curious as to how fast and solid it performs, however. For instance, I have a stock Nexus 7 with JB (obviously) and it's the smoothest greatest Android device I've had to date. With JB on the Rezound, are we seeing the benefits of Project butter?
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
Im in it now and so far no problems, project butter is def noticable
Well I'm running Infection 2.1 and it's fast and very smooth. I'm running it with IHateWebOS' deluxe+ kernel OC 1.8 with noop scheduler.
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Well I'm running Infection 2.1 and it's fast and very smooth. I'm running it with IHateWebOS' deluxe+ kernel OC 1.8 with noop scheduler.
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is gaming choppy?
ive noticed most of the 10/10.1 roms are choppy on the gaming side
i would like to test but i dont see the point in flashing the newest update just to find out when i can just ask :silly:
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is gaming choppy?
ive noticed most of the 10/10.1 roms are choppy on the gaming side
i would like to test but i dont see the point in flashing the newest update just to find out when i can just ask :silly:
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When i was running Infection 2.0 it was pretty choppy, but since i switched to the latest PAC-MAN rom by shrike and it's pretty smooth. Might have been the transition to 4.2.2.
Project butter isn't enabled for us on the Rezound, from what I've gathered there's a lot of coding that needs to be done to the jelly bean base to get it to work on our device properly. The smoothness comes from all the tweaks and enhancements the Rom devs have put Into the world Roms. I can't wait to see how smooth this phone will be once project butter is actually working
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Having experienced Project Butter firsthand, I can say in no uncertain terms that this isn't Project Butter. However, the interface is quite smooth given the right CPU governor. As mentioned, games performance is where things lag. We don't have hardware accelerated video, so anything 3D or HD is going to suffer.
.... Oh well its smooth and that's what counts right? Ha
I've tried every JB rom and the infectious 2 was the best to date.. but I always go back to the desensed Neo 2 for the battery life and I prefer the camera over JB as well.
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DogzOfWar said:
Currently, I'm stock+root (as it seems none of the ROMs were super-solid, based on the various lengths of forums for each ROM).
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Not quite sure what this means...JB for the Rezound hasn't been out THAT long as it took Chad, Neo, Shrike, et al quite a long time to get things somewhat stable. So I wouldn't go by length of thread to judge a usable/stable ROM, or maybe I just misundestand.
DogzOfWar said:
I'm currently considering Infection 2.1, which looks great. I'm curious as to how fast and solid it performs, however. For instance, I have a stock Nexus 7 with JB (obviously) and it's the smoothest greatest Android device I've had to date. With JB on the Rezound, are we seeing the benefits of Project butter?
Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
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The above being said, I too have a Nexus 7 and am running mlaws Dirty AOKP on it. I just left Infection rom on my Rez and it is nowhere near as smooth an experience as on the N7 (no offense Neo, I know you work hard on all your roms).
I went back to hawk's eclipticrez rom for a couple of main reasons:
1. Signal strength is better on sense roms ON MY PHONE ( I have to say it that way because others will disagree heartily, I'm sure).
2. Video is less than perfect on the JB roms for rez.
3. Battery for me seems to be better (20-30%) on hawk's rom...haven't done a real test, just have ran both over several days usually doing the same stuff and I seem to need a charge faster on Infection.
Based on what has been accomplished and what HTC has released, it is a miracle we have JB, but there are still issues with it IMO. ABSOLUTELY nothing against the devs that are pouring their heart and soul into their respective projects, my hat's off to them all!
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Are voice calls, SMS, battery life, 4G, bluetooth audio, GPS, etc all solid? It can be so hard to look at the first few pages of a ROM where everyone is excited, followed by 234 pages (like Infection) of people posting questions and problems. Even worse, a ROM like Infection has been out so long that it's hard to tell what issues people currently have vs what they had 2 months ago.
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I think if you really took the time to read through the threads you're talking about, you'd find that there are very few major bugs that haven't been solved. I'm running Infection right now, and all the functions I use on a regular basis are working just fine; SMS, calling, 3G/4G/Wifi I can vouch for, and Wifi Tethering & GPS are working from what I've tested.
As for the threads, like I said. You really should take the time to read through everything. Infection's thread has loads of fluff and miscellaneous conversations with it, and a lot of the issues you may have seen have either been resolved or were just people who were unsure about how to do something. There are very few major stability issues, that I've experienced.
As for the overall usability and smoothness, it's very good. Shrike is right, it's certainly not Project Butter. But it isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. Underclocking and undervolting can introduce lag, but only in extreme cases. Battery life will depend on the ROM, kernel, and individual settings in question, but there are a few generalities that can be made... such as the Noop scheduler, DanceDance/Wheatley governers, etc.
Hope this helps.
Edit: I rarely use the camera for photos or videos, and I simply don't have an interest in playing a game on my phone. So I can't give any insights on those aspects, sorry.
I'm running Infection right now and this is my first step into JB for the Rezound and I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest (hell, I was on a GB ROM 6 months ago for fear of moving to an unstable ICS), but what Neo has put together has really out-shined the competition.
With that being said, it's nowhere near perfect. All the basic things that you need a phone to do (talk, text, 3g/4g, wifi, etc) all work efficiently and effectively. However, and this could just be me, but when you're playing around within your phone, such as moving icons around while searching for things online and looking up directions in Maps, things will start "unfortunately stopping" on your phone, and Apex is almost always the first to go. On the bright side, the apps that crash immediately start working again, so it's not as detrimental as it seems.
The only time I've had an out and out failure on the phone was when I was in mid conversation the phone completely went blank. It responded to nothing. It was black screen, no lights, nothing. I had to pull the battery to reboot.
So, as it is within the modding community, everything comes with a certain amount of assumed risk. The closer you are to the bleeding edge, the more likely you are to get cut. (God, that was a terrible ending...)
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I'm running Infection right now and this is my first step into JB for the Rezound and I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far. I'm not one to jump on the latest and greatest (hell, I was on a GB ROM 6 months ago for fear of moving to an unstable ICS), but what Neo has put together has really out-shined the competition.
With that being said, it's nowhere near perfect. All the basic things that you need a phone to do (talk, text, 3g/4g, wifi, etc) all work efficiently and effectively. However, and this could just be me, but when you're playing around within your phone, such as moving icons around while searching for things online and looking up directions in Maps, things will start "unfortunately stopping" on your phone, and Apex is almost always the first to go. On the bright side, the apps that crash immediately start working again, so it's not as detrimental as it seems.
The only time I've had an out and out failure on the phone was when I was in mid conversation the phone completely went blank. It responded to nothing. It was black screen, no lights, nothing. I had to pull the battery to reboot.
So, as it is within the modding community, everything comes with a certain amount of assumed risk. The closer you are to the bleeding edge, the more likely you are to get cut. (God, that was a terrible ending...)
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Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
tell me a jb rom that has video working properly(tearing) and the camcorder working and im all over it. as having a 3yr old i need both.
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Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
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ICS AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs work well save for BT audio. Sense ROMs are still better tho...
I haven't seen this mention much, but how is the battery life vs Sense 3.6/4 roms?
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ICS AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs work well save for BT audio. Sense ROMs are still better tho...
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BT audio should be fine on the latest ones. Granted, I haven't listened to music on them for more than a test, but calling and A2DP both work on 4.2.2.
How is the performance of google now? And again is battery life better than sense roms?
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Thanks everyone in this thread for the thoughtful, detailed responses. Personally I've learned a lot more here than reading through some of the ROM threads.
As a conclusion, I'm going to avoid the JB roms. I do waste a lot of my life playing games and watching video, so it sounds like it's best to avoid the JB ROMs. Plus this is my phone for work, and I take lots of annoying pictures of my kids. Sounds like the JB roms aren't quite stable enough in that regards.
What do people think about the non-JB/Cyanogen/AOKP ROMs? I guess those are optimized versions of base HTC ROMs? Do those perform better?
Again, thanks to everyone for their responses.
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If you don't want to go to jellybean yet (personally, I find the expanded notifications a killer feature since it previews email subjects and even opening lines)
Then try the simplistic rom by neo. It's an unbloated version of the stock global, sense 3.6 OTA rom and will at least be a little less memory hogging than the stock rom.
If you don't need Bluetooth calling, neo's rage 1.9.5 gets you a very stable, fast version of ICS (with no sense bloat), no video tearing and working camcorder.
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Now that I've got my ZUGPe my Note is going into semi retirement as mp3 player / cycling gps / htpc remote and I don't care so much about features and customizing as I do about stabiltiy now. I have dealt with varying degrees of instability with many many CM and AOKP variations to stay on Vanilla-ish Android. I really really really hate Touchwiz, but do I have to go back to Touchwiz to get something really stable? I'll cut you off and say maybe my phone just never agreed with CM or AOKP so even if yours is stable mine never quite got there, never more than 2-3 days without a RR or lockup, and usually several RR each day. My old Incredible on CM goes nearly a month before an issue creeps up but to be fair it doesn't get a ton of use. Neither will the Note so I just want something solid and dependable, rather than cutting-edge. Thanks for tossing your opinions at me!
You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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its PT's also
Carbonrom V 1.8
I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
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James
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I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
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James
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However, not to be technical, but its "Uber".
For Bulldogs function and for mine, we are not using phone function anymore. Just a sort of mini tablet.
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I would base this question on "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".... She also has the 717, but won't let me put my dirty mitts on it That being said, without question I would put AOKP 4.4.2 on it if she finally relented. One of the most stable I have run, and blownfuze said he has no intention of giving up his note anytime soon. Which means we will get support for a while on that one.
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:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
i717 said:
:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
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I just posted link the other day and gapps for it too
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I thought aokp 4.4.2 and all kit kat roms had issues with the display going crazy especially related to games and lock screens. I though the camcorder doesn't work yet for aokp. I am in the same boat. My s4 died so I am back to the old note. I am going to try carbon 1.8 or sons on android, as those are the only download links I can find. Thanks for this post.
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Thank you captemo for the direction of the Sons of Android files.:good:
I did DL them. My connection must have been wonky.
I had issues with the Gapps file. It must have been a bad download for me. Tried twice. Got the ROM to load up fine, but without Gapps I didn't get a good testing done. I was using TWRP.
Without an MD5 to be sure my DL was good I probably shouldn't have tried it.
So I reinstalled Carbon V1.8 from my BU.
Since my last post, I did have a FC and reboot related to my BeWeather App. I have also had issues with this App in TW based ROMs I've tried.
I don't load allot of Apps, or run many programs. And the ones I can Greenify, I do. Maybe this is why Carbon works for me?:fingers-crossed:
I reset my weather App to update manually when I use it now. I think it updating as the program opens has been the trouble.
Is there a problem with Auto-Brightness on non TW roms? My display flickers when I unlock my screen. This happened on 4.4.2 roms and 4.2.2 carbon 1.8. Is there a simple fix I am forgetting?
The auto bright setting on the non TW based ROMs I have tried have not been as smooth as TW ROMs. I set the auto function off, and set it to low.
Some of the non TW based ROMs have the slide your finger across the top of the screen to manually adjust brightness. Nice feature.
I went back to the download dropbox provided by captemo and re-downloaded the files, and got a good clean ROM and Gapps. :good:
I am using "Sons Of Android" now, and like it very much! So far so good!
Thank you, captemo :good:
I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
sadinoide said:
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
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Unfortunately I haven't tried all the ROMs, so can't give you any suggestion on them.
As for custom kernels and ART, I have been using whatever comes with the ROMs. The result on PA is so good (7.5 hours screen on time with 22% battery left), I never found myself in the situation of needing to tweak anything. Kernel is generally my last choice, because it is a lot of trial and error. The last I tried ART was when it was still in beta, I should really give it a go now it is more stable.
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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When I first switched to AOSP roms I missed them a lot. Fortunately there is a mod for the quick remote but none for Qslide. Either way you'll find yourself not needing Qslide after some time.
mab71 said:
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
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I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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I tried Qslide on stock, then never used it again. For me spliting the screen in half means i can't see much of anything. I think it might be useful when you get used to it, but I never really got used to it.
I never used Qremote because I don't own anything which requires a remote.
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
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lavafire said:
I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
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Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
albsat said:
Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
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Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
slowdyve said:
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
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Unfortunately the camera on PA is also pretty disappointing, in my experience anything that is not based on stock ROMs has bad camera experience.
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I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
albsat said:
I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
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Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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lavafire said:
Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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Thanks man. I did try it. After restoring sms, the Android. process message kept popping up, and reinstalling from beginning was a bit too lazy by my side. There is a cm version based on stock kernel which looks promising for what I am looking for, so I am keeping an eye on this CM version. Thanks again.
lavafire said:
I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Nice write up! I used Mahdi, PA and CloudyG3 and agree with your comments. I'm currently running cloudyg3 and would like to add a few notes to those who are interested. Disabling all the animations does speed things up for me and the dev made the G3 Tweakbox features all free. PA is my second favorite ROM, super smooth and stable. If camera was better on PA, it would be my daily driver.
lavafire said:
Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
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upload please the latest test build
goila said:
upload please the latest test build
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Wish I downloaded it before the link died, but people commented saying they are unstable so I didn't download it. But I think it should be released today (3rd Nov) on the PA thread.
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I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
player911 said:
I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
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Yeah G3 Rom are very stable only some hiccups when you have too many apps open, apart from that everything is pretty good. Camera is normally the main selling point for most
Also I think going from stock -> G3 ROMs -> AOSP is a pretty good way going about it.
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