I'm going to send in my phone for a new front glass (i know i should do it myself but i have to pay for the screen) and my phone is rooted with a custom ROM. If i were to restore a backup i made when my phone was stock (no root, no ROMs, no kernels etc.) will my flash/binary counter be set back to 0?
No, flash counter is within the bootloader and can only be reset by triangle away. Guides on how to do this are in general forum, sticky threads.
If you are paying for the repair then warranty indicator is irrelevant?
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boomboomer said:
No, flash counter is within the bootloader and can only be reset by triangle away. Guides on how to do this are in general forum, sticky threads.
If you are paying for the repair then warranty indicator is irrelevant?
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I'm not paying for it, i have insurance that is void if the phone is "modified".
U have been creating more than 1 forum post abt ur phone screen. Next time just ask them in the first forum u created.
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Hi there friends, just upgraded firmware from KE8 to KF3, and have lost root. So have to root again. Pls confirm if the procedure for rooting and removing the yellow triangle after root is exactly the same as done before using CF method? Are these the kernels to use:
Kernel to flash while rooting with Odin: CF-Root-SGS2_XW_CLK_KF3-v4.0-CWM4.tar
and for reverting to stock kernel to remove yellow triangle : I9100XWKF3_Kernel.tar (Intratech's thread)
If you confirm that the above two files are the correct ones, I'll go ahead and root. Pls advice. Thanks & Cheers!
Yes just follow instructions
jje
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Ok. Done already. I guess if you've done it once, you can do it n number of times. Was just being careful Now to find out what are the changes in the new KF3 version. Will check the threads already there on KF3 now. Cheers!
Just one question, now the flashing counter would show the number as 2...right? Since this is the second time I've flashed. Does this flash counter have any significance? If so, then what? Is there any limit to the number of times I can flash or are they limitless?
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Just one question, now the flashing counter would show the number as 2...right? Since this is the second time I've flashed. Does this flash counter have any significance? If so, then what? Is there any limit to the number of times I can flash or are they limitless?
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Limitless 1 voids your warranty 2 voids your warranty etc. etc.
jje
Is there a way to root w/o upping the flash counter?
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Is there a way to root w/o upping the flash counter?
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I guess, there isn't. But I believe you can set back the counter to zero again using jigs. There are much more knowledgeable people here on this forum regarding this subject, they'll correct me if I'm wrong.
Reset Binary custom rom counter post in dev sections .
basics are use the usb recovery jig to boot and it clears the counter to zero .
jje
I used this guide to root my phone:
forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-ii/124047-how-root-t-galaxy-s-ii.html
It's a i777. I then read AFTER the fact (strange it wasnt mentioned in the guide. I know, my fault!) that the Flash Counter updates if you boot into download mode. This voids your warranty.
-Does rooting my phone using that guide really update my Flash Counter?
-And If so, is there a way to reset it in case something happens to my phone?
Planning on flashing CM7 or UnNamed tomorrow, so just curious.
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crewxp said:
I used this guide to root my phone:
forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-ii/124047-how-root-t-galaxy-s-ii.html
It's a i777. I then read AFTER the fact (strange it wasnt mentioned in the guide. I know, my fault!) that the Flash Counter updates if you boot into download mode. This voids your warranty.
-Does rooting my phone using that guide really update my Flash Counter?
-And If so, is there a way to reset it in case something happens to my phone?
Planning on flashing CM7 or UnNamed tomorrow, so just curious.
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Rooting the phone has nothing to do with the flash counter thingy...
When you root using SuperOneClick Rooter, the phone never goes into
download mode at all since there is NO reason to go into download mode
for just for rooting.
I know there are other methods of rooting besides SuperOneClick but
if any of the other methods require download mode I would NOT use it.
Not only because the counter, but each time we do anything in download mode we are taking a
small risk of bricking the phone so only use the download mode if you really have to and there
is no other way to do something you want to do.
That's one of the reasons why all these custom roms are zip files and
not TAR. There is way less of a chance to really damage the phone if
we use zipfiles for roms or mods or anything else.
If you want to check if the counter is started, go into download mode
by using the 2 volume control method.
Press both vol+/vol- and hold them press, then plug in the usb cable
from computer to phone.
When the screen comes up with a warning, just press vol up to continue and
look for the the word binary counter, it should say "NO" if counter is turned off.
Just booting into download mode does not trip the counter. Flashing a custom kernel via Odin or heimdall is how the binary counter gets tripped (note: flashing a stock kernel via Odin our heimdall will not trip the counter)
You can tell if you tripped the counter by
1. Seeing i9100 + yellow triangle warning sign on boot splash screen
2. Booting into download mode via volume up/down USB connect and read the counter directly
See this thread for in depth info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Also info on that thread hour to reset the counter if you want with a download mode jig, the jig will erase and reset the binary counter, all the info you need is in that thread
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thanks a bunch guys! Yeah, I see a yellow warning when I boot it up. Just heading to bed, will give that thread a look tomorrow.
But it should be possible to erase and reset the counter with a 'jig'?
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thanks a bunch guys! Yeah, I see a yellow warning when I boot it up. Just heading to bed, will give that thread a look tomorrow.
But it should be possible to wrasse and reset the counter with a 'jig'?
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yes. Its all in that thread.
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yes. Its all in that thread.
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Believe it or not, but I have never went into download mode
for any reason without the jig I purchased about two years ago.
It's not because of the counter issue with our phones but it's just
just way too convenient to use the jig.
I just heard about the counter issue here on XDA after purchasing
this i777 phone.
The Captivate and the Infuse phones I had before did not have
a counter issue.
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Believe it or not, but I have never went into download mode
for any reason without the jig I purchased about two years ago.
It's not because of the counter issue with our phones but it's just
just way too convenient to use the jig.
I just heard about the counter issue here on XDA after purchasing
this i777 phone.
The Captivate and the Infuse phones I had before did not have
a counter issue.
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Actually, the Infuse does if you flashed the H1 OTA, or the Gingerbread bootloaders from J2.
Can you re-post the thread link? IT says the thread does not exist.
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Can you re-post the thread link? IT says the thread does not exist.
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I think the moderator moved the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Thanks a bunch!
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I think the moderator moved the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
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That thread is definitely the way to go, IMO. This method will not trip the counter. Once you complete this method, you will be able to flash using CWM. CWM will not trip the counter, or the yellow triangle, when flashing.
Even If I flash back to the original vodafone rom and reset everything. After having a custom rom/kernel my warranty is void right?
Not necessarily.
If you put a stock rom back on and clear the counter with an app or jig then who is to know you put a custom rom on at all?
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Not necessarily.
If you put a stock rom back on and clear the counter with an app or jig then who is to know you put a custom rom on at all?
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How do I clear the counter??
Yes you will lose your warranty, if you flash.you can set back your internal counter with an USB jig, if you need to send in your phone in a case of warranty, but I don't know if that is a legal way to get your warranty back.
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Yes you will lose your warranty, if you flash.you can set back your internal counter with an USB jig, if you need to send in your phone in a case of warranty, but I don't know if that is a legal way to get your warranty back.
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This guy is right. Morally as soon as you mess about flashing roms you void your warranty. But there are ways to technically cover your tracks. Its up to you whether you try them or not!
I suspect anyone on here returning their phone has done these things
One of my friends sent their phone in for a hardware issue (rocker button stopped working) they didn't put stock back on or clear counter but they got it back fixed - but completely back to stock..
Counter can be cleared with a jig or app called triangle away.
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Yea, simply just flash a stock ROM from sammobile.com, and reset the flash counter with a USB jig that you can buy on ebay for like £3, and the repair service has no idea! By the way, I have done this, no questions asked.
Chris.
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We all paid a lot of money for our phone, but I can only speak for myself and I am very happy that I tried custom roms and kernels.why driving a beetle if you can have a Ferrari...?
Your choice mate...
I am currently using Turkbey ROM v37 Se with neak kernel and I love it...
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We all paid a lot of money for our phone, but I can only speak for myself and I am very happy that I tried custom roms and kernels.why driving a beetle if you can have a Ferrari...?
Your choice mate...
I am currently using Turkbey ROM v37 Se with neak kernel and I love it...
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I am asking this cause I'm selling my phone and the guy I'm selling it to want's warranty xD (Sorry guys but I'm moving on to the Galaxy Nexus xD)
Get you an USB jig and a stock firmware and your buyer should be happy
Have fun on the nexus
Once you put custom firmware on your phone or root it, you should lose all expectation of warranty service/replacement in the future. Regardless of any methods you might be able to use to put the phone into a state somewhat similar to when it was bought.
Yes, if you go back to stock & reset the flash counter there has been many people on here who have received warranty service. There has also been people on here who have done this & still been denied warranty service. How they've been found out we'll never know.
You need to be honest with whomever you're selling it to there's always a chance they won't get paid for service if they need it.
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Is this a special USB jig or the standard jig for getting into download mode that does reset the counter?
There's only one jig. If you find it doesn't work, you're probably running the 'new' bootloader. If that's the case, flash the 'old' bootloader (download link in Intratech's firmwares thread) & the jig should work.
Is warranty off if i just root and don't change ROM?
Yes ..... if you are rooting your phone means your warranty is gone........
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Yes ..... if you are rooting your phone means your warranty is gone........
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Nops.... If u able to make flash counter to zero then your warranty will back then it does not matter you are rooted or not.
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Yes ....
If we manage to do flash counter zero then warranty not void........
And we can use triangle away application for doing flash counter zero.......
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Plain truth of the matter is root = void warranty even with a reset counter as you have not removed root .
So you remove root by flashing a stock rom .Reset rom counter and check status is not custom .
Also check in settings about phone that its not showing as modified .Plus delete any root apps like CWM or TA or Superuser .
The Samsung letter to service personal regrading void warranty and what to look for is freely available on the internet .
jje
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Is warranty off if i just root and don't change ROM?
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According to this thread, if you live in Europe, rooting doesn't necessarily cancel your warranty. Samsung would have to prove that rooting played some role in your phone's problem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
The article is correct but not complete.
In the first year the seller has to prove you caused the issue, in the second one you actually have to be able to prove you didn't.
However the simple fact is that:
- if the phone fully boots you can flash stock rom and reset the counter as normal. If necessary through an external USB keyboard if touchscreen is broken
- if the phone only gets into recovery but cannot be flashed, a correct TriangleAway will have taken care of setting it to a nice 0.
The "device modified" in the real system cannot be accessed since it won't boot obviously.
- if the phone doesn't turn at all (even with JIG) the "device modified" cannot be access either.
There's still a possibility of the repair service manually checking the filesystem for the telltale modifications, but the risk is rather very slim.
What about If I flashed cm10 then go to.Sammy service center
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Custom rom = warranty fail .
Its also easy enough for Samsung to defend the custom rom warranty rejection under EU law as they may well show firmware is not tested .
jje
If root than warrenty will b void. If want warrenty thn unroot ur phone & also reset counters.
Press thnx if helped!!!
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I know this has been wrote many times before but im really stuck here as the information givent o repair a corrupt imei seems to be for the us version of the phone
I recently rooted and flashed my sons phone (done others before)
except this time it has a default imei number 0049 ?
I cant repair the imei and he deleted the efs backup from the memory card
I have read all the tuts and watched countless vids on utube . but I cant get rf nv item manager to find the phone . theres no com port for the phone , even though when flashing with odin it shows a port and uses it .
it is dead forever or does it have to go in for repair
please help someone
It is posted here at least twice a day for this model too
Essentially no EFS, you're looking at sending it for repair but samsung CAN repair it
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It is posted here at least twice a day for this model too
Essentially no EFS, you're looking at sending it for repair but samsung CAN repair it
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the phone seems to be missing 'Qualcomm USB Settings'
the option just isn't there
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the phone seems to be missing 'Qualcomm USB Settings'
the option just isn't there
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You're not using a qualcomm based phone. You have an Exynos based phone (quad core)
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You're not using a qualcomm based phone. You have an Exynos based phone (quad core)
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that's what I thought but didn't want to sound stupid from the get go
No worries.
But yeah only 2 choices. Restore EFS backup or send for repair and you've ruled out the former.
Do reset flash counter with triangle away if its at 1 though
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No worries.
But yeah only 2 choices. Restore EFS backup or send for repair and you've ruled out the former.
Do reset flash counter with triangle away if its at 1 though
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triangle away cant reset the flash counter below 1 .
and whats the chance of the phone been repaired in the uk . I think they will just refuse stating its blocked ,
it was at first something on the lines of 789789789784 after flashing a stock o2 rom to the phone it has the default 0049 imei . and no network signal at all .
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triangle away cant reset the flash counter below 1 .
and whats the chance of the phone been repaired in the uk . I think they will just refuse stating its blocked ,
it was at first something on the lines of 789789789784 after flashing a stock o2 rom to the phone it has the default 0049 imei . and no network signal at all .
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If it has a Jellybean bootloader, the flash counter sets back to one upon every boot. So to use triangle away succesfully, you must either:
1) Use triangle away, but prevent the phone rebooting afterwards by pulling the battery (tricky to time right)
2) Flash stock, root with CF auto root, then reset counter. There would be nothing to increase teh flash counter. Then use SuperSU app to remove root (long winded, almost counter intuitive)
Is it actually blocked? They don't look at the phone to see if it is blocked, they look at the network. Loads of people wipe their EFS so don't worry, you're nowhere near the first to do this. You probably weren't even the first yesterday to do this.
jona29 said:
triangle away cant reset the flash counter below 1 .
and whats the chance of the phone been repaired in the uk . I think they will just refuse stating its blocked ,
it was at first something on the lines of 789789789784 after flashing a stock o2 rom to the phone it has the default 0049 imei . and no network signal at all .
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success took it to local phone shop cost me £20 for imei number restore done in 10 mins
my son will be happy
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success took it to local phone shop cost me £20 for imei number restore done in 10 mins
my son will be happy
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Hey, that's nice and easy! Thanks for letting us know.
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Hey, that's nice and easy! Thanks for letting us know.
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which phone store did the repair in uk?? i have 1 which i flashed with latest 4.2.2 firmware which lost the imei (0049) tried everything to get this imei back with no luck and no backup, let me know