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I knew I might have problems when using Titanium Backup to restore my apps and data from my Captivate to my new SGS2. I did some research prior and could not find any information that said there would be a problem for sure, so I went ahead.
Now I am having a bunch of force closes... Messenging, e-mail, bunch of things not working at all. Suggestions?
Information: Rooted SGS2 running 2.3.4, build GB.UCKH7
I think the best thing to do now is a complete wipe... But I am not sure how to do that without messing up my phone since it is rooted. Also, even if I do wipe it, how do I restore my text messages, phone log, etc, without messing it up again? Is this even possible or should I give up?
FYI: I have never restored to a different phone before, only from Captivate to Captivate.
Thanks in advance.
It is not recommended to restore system apps going from one rom to another, so I can only assume coming from another phone is such a bad idea.
Restoring user apps is all you should do, but from another phone I don't know how that works exactly.
For messages, call logs, check the market for a few apps that will do that for you.
Did you try to restore your mms and phone log by restoring the apk? I do not think you can do that from one phone to a different phone.
You should backup and restore with something like "SMS Backup +" from Google Play.
EDIT// Damn I'm too slow
restoring from device to device is fine...however it would appear that you restored SYSTEM data
or
you restored all apps + data instead of MISSING apps+data....big difference.
Pirateghost said:
restoring from device to device is fine...however it would appear that you restored SYSTEM data
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you restored all apps + data instead of MISSING apps+data....big difference.
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I selected the option "Backup all user apps + system data," which I already figured out was the WRONG option. Grrr.
What is the best way to fix this situation I am in? Since my phone is rooted, I am hesitant to use the menu systems to reset since that might mess up my phone.
I suppose installing a custom rom will fix the issue for sure, right? I was not sure I wanted to get into that with this phone.
Install a custom rom and be done with it.
If you like stock give that latest leak a try and enjoy ICS.
I'm with lilchris on this one. Just do a clean install of a custom rom then only restore user apps. In my experience restoring system data is just way more trouble then its worth. Google stores your critical information (contacts etc.) and everything else is not worth the pain.
LiLChris06 said:
Install a custom rom and be done with it.
If you like stock give that latest leak a try and enjoy ICS.
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Would you recommend stock or your ICS Rom? I actually prefer custom roms, I was just not sure I wanted to spend all the time putting one on... I guess I have to now!!!! Might as well get a custom one. I miss the custom one I had on my Captivate already!!!
As far as ICS roms go, how does yours rank? It looks pretty awesome.
Thanks.
Phone Bricker ICS Rom
Just installed Chris's Phone Bricker ICS Rom and it truly is AMAZING!!!! ICS has got to be the best Android Rom I have seen yet. I am loving it so much.
Thanks Christ, you are awesome. As soon as my phone finished downloading all my apps (which is did automatically!!! never had that happen with any prior Android Rom!), I will install the update you provided.
not really new to this stuff, but i am when it comes to the note 2.
props to the guys that put CASUAL together, with little effort other than installing the drivers from the samsung website, a few tries and reboots, 3rd go and it only took maybe 3 minutes to do the work for me.
so, now i am looking for a way to debloat the rom that came with my phone, not ready to jump into the custom flashing yet, but i would like to remove a few things i never use that verizon drops into the rom.
from past experience deleting from the /system/app and /data directories caused issues with stability on my htc rezound.
also one other thought, with the lg enlighten, rebooting with /system as RW would bootloop the phone, the rezound didn't mind at all, how does the note 2 react to being RW?
any suggestions to debloating the current running rom are welcome, i have already had some for custom roms, but more input would be ok too.
Get titanium backup and remove those apps.
Then I'd make a backup and when you are ready to custom flash, get cleanrom. From the sounds of it that is what you are looking for.
that's what i had said before, but eventually i would like to flash a modded rom, but right now i am thinking about just debloating this one, for fun.
one thing that concerns me, has anyone flashed a rom the s-pen doesn't work on?
is that built into the mainboard or a rom specific thing?
wondering so i know to be careful of what i flash, love my s-pen lol
fallen00sniper said:
that's what i had said before, but eventually i would like to flash a modded rom, but right now i am thinking about just debloating this one, for fun.
one thing that concerns me, has anyone flashed a rom the s-pen doesn't work on?
is that built into the mainboard or a rom specific thing?
wondering so i know to be careful of what i flash, love my s-pen lol
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The S-pen is Samsung software that only works on Touchwiz (Samsung based Roms also known as TW) framework, said framework has yet to be ported to AOSP and most likely will not be. It is very rare for TW framework to be ported in a way that works on AOSP Roms.
The S-pen will work on all Roms no matter what but the special features, like pushing the button to make a screenshot, will be there on TW Roms but not AOSP Roms. With Vanilla Rootbox you can make the floating dot show up on the screen when using the S-pen and the other Roms have some implementation of that. If you want to replace some of the features on AOSP Roms you should look into getting GMD Spen Control from the market, also Plasma kernel has new S-pen features built in. It still won't be exactly the same as running a TW ROM but is close enough for me.
All of the custom TW Roms will have full S-pen support just like the stock ROM and in some cases have a little bit extra.
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The S-pen is Samsung software that only works on Touchwiz (Samsung based Roms also known as TW) framework, said framework has yet to be ported to AOSP and most likely will not be. It is very rare for TW framework to be ported in a way that works on AOSP Roms.
The S-pen will work on all Roms no matter what but the special features, like pushing the button to make a screenshot, will be there on TW Roms but not AOSP Roms. With Vanilla Rootbox you can make the floating dot show up on the screen when using the S-pen and the other Roms have some implementation of that. If you want to replace some of the features on AOSP Roms you should look into getting GMD Spen Control from the market, also Plasma kernel has new S-pen features built in. It still won't be exactly the same as running a TW ROM but is close enough for me.
All of the custom TW Roms will have full S-pen support just like the stock ROM and in some cases have a little bit extra.
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So is flashing a rom done from the sdcard as normal or is it different in any way from a standard flash, new to twrp.
Yup. Just put it on your SD card and flash. Wipe everything but your external card before you flash. lots more to it but that's the cliffnotes version.
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Yup. Just put it on your SD card and flash. Wipe everything but your external card before you flash. lots more to it but that's the cliffnotes version.
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You don't have to and you typically don't want to wipe your internal SD memory to flash a rom. From TWRP recovery you should do a Factory rest (which wipes data but not internal SD memory, the cache and the Dalvik cache). After flashing you should wipe cache and Dalvik cache again but not wipe data. To do that go into the Advanced wipe area to only wipe those 2 and not data again.
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You don't have to and you typically don't want to wipe your internal SD memory to flash a rom. From recovery you want to write cache and dalvek cache before (and optionally after) flashing but that's it.
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No, you want to wipe your data in the internal SD, wiping cache and dalvik cache is a dirty flash and is only acceptable under certain conditions.
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No, you want to wipe your data in the internal SD, wiping cache and dalvik cache is a dirty flash and is only acceptable under certain conditions.
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I corrected my post that yes you also want to wipe data but only from recovery.
What you don't want to do is use a file manager and delete data that way from internal memory. Nor do you normally want to reformat any internal or external memory from recovery.
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ok so quick once over, same as the rez, but i only need to do a factory reset and wipe system, caches and flash?
so i can keep internal storage intact no issue?
what about boot?
slightly different from the rez.
just another awesome thing i found for this phone, wondering how well it works and if i could use it to update twrp or maybe even revert to my flashaholic ways with a simple tap and go.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager
btw, twrp is the most awesome recovery i have ever used, along with titanium backup, which i have never used, i now have a debloated stock rom backed up.
i haven't been this thrilled since i achieved s-off on my rez.
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I corrected my post that yes you also want to wipe data but only from recovery.
What you don't want to do is use a file manager and delete data that way from internal memory. Nor do you normally want to reformat any internal or external memory from recovery.
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Well I use the second options in TWRP, I can't remember what it is now, under the wipe menu that you have to type yes for that formats the internal memory to get rid of all the BS. It doesn't hurt as long as you know what you are doing. And as long as you only delete old folders that are no longer in use everything will be fine.
TWRP doesn't have any dangerous wipe options at the current moment.
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fallen00sniper said:
ok so quick once over, same as the rez, but i only need to do a factory reset and wipe system, caches and flash?
so i can keep internal storage intact no issue?
what about boot?
slightly different from the rez.
just another awesome thing i found for this phone, wondering how well it works and if i could use it to update twrp or maybe even revert to my flashaholic ways with a simple tap and go.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager
btw, twrp is the most awesome recovery i have ever used, along with titanium backup, which i have never used, i now have a debloated stock rom backed up.
i haven't been this thrilled since i achieved s-off on my rez.
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You can use it to update TWRP and download ROMs but I wouldn't flash my Roms from it, you can flash from it but I personally wouldn't. There is also a app named ROM Manager you can flash Roms from but there are a lot of issues when using ROM Manager.
I personally use the Goo Manger app to keep up with my Roms updates.
In TWRP after you click the Wipe button and go to the Wipe sub menu I always click advanced wipe and go in and wipe Data, Cache, Dalvik, and System and then I back out to the Wipe sub menu and click the right hand button, you'll have to type yes for it to work, and that gets rid of all the BS folders and crap so you can start completely fresh. You don't have to do that if you don't want to, I personally like my phone being completely clean when flashing a new ROM.
Yes you can keep internal and boot intact.
All you have to do to go to a new ROM when you boot into TWRP is click Wipe and then slide the little slider in the Wipe sub menu, I believe it says swipe for Factory Reset. That is all you have to do to Clean Flash a ROM.
Something else fun about TWRP is that you can theme it. Here is a TWRP theme collection on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2035234
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fallen00sniper said:
btw, twrp is the most awesome recovery i have ever used, along with titanium backup, which i have never used, i now have a debloated stock rom backed up.
i haven't been this thrilled since i achieved s-off on my rez.
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If you use Titanium to back up apps (which you can do together) and their data before flashing you can restore the apps and data all at once after the flash without having to install each one by one from Google play store. Be sure not to restore system apps or data (no need to back them up either) because it may affect the new rom.
The good part of not reformatting your internal or external memory from TWRP is that your photos, music, etc.will remain after the flash. Even if you choose factory wipe or wipe data in TWRP.
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I used titanium backup root to debloat a little, so I am kind of good for now, but made a nandroid of this rooted, debloated stock rom.
I think I found a twrp update with that goo.im app, but I am sure there are more than 4 roms to choose from, I have seen jedi which seemed like what I would want, stock decked out with features and the multi app does all apps, so I am kind of ready to do my first flash.
From what I get from what both or all of you have told me, swipe to factory reset, wipe system and internal, leave boot and others alone.
I wanted to set twrp to save to my sdcard, but didn't see an option to do so.
And thanks for all the input guys.
fallen00sniper said:
From what I get from what both or all of you have told me, swipe to factory reset, wipe system and internal, leave boot and others alone.
I wanted to set twrp to save to my sdcard, but didn't see an option to do so.
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All you need to do before flashing is the one Factory reset wipe on the first screen of the Wipe area. Just as TWRP advises on that screen. After the flash most go back to the Wipe area then the Advanced area and wipe only cache and Dalvik cache. Your first reboot will take a minute or 2 so be patient.
To save backup to the external card go to the Backup area and at the bottom where it says where it will backup press on it and then you can change the location. It just looks like a label and doesn't look like a button but it is. I would just backup the default checked items. Even that will be 3-4 gigs.
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universexda said:
All you need to do before flashing is the one Factory reset wipe on the first screen of the Wipe area. Just as TWRP advises on that screen. After the flash most go back to the Wipe area then the Advanced area and wipe only cache and Dalvik cache. Your first reboot will take a minute or 2 so be patient.
To save backup to the external card go to the Backup area and at the bottom where it says where it will backup press on it and then you can change the location. It just looks like a label and doesn't look like a button but it is. I would just backup the default checked items. Even that will be 3-4 gigs.
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You should also back up the EFS in your first nandroid just in case you ever lose your IMEI or any of that good stuff. Then store that backup in a safe secure space. You won't have to back up the EFS again after the initial backup as long as you always keep that backup safe.
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ok i think i am ready to try my first flash, i chose jedi since it seemed to appeal to me more with the feature and spen will still work 100%.
thanks again for all of the help,
fallen00sniper said:
ok i think i am ready to try my first flash, i chose jedi since it seemed to appeal to me more with the feature and spen will still work 100%.
thanks again for all of the help,
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Well Spen with work on all the Roms, the only issue is that it doesn't have all the software features on AOSP as it does on TW. It will have all the same features as stock as long as it is a Touchwiz, TW, ROM. Moon ROM, Jedi, CleanRom (both versions), Beans, MeanBean, Goodness, etc. And you can still add a lot of your stock Spen features back with GND Spen Control.
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ok i installed jedi, but mid install at installing voice recorder after modem installation, retaining current modem, it just locked up.
fallen00sniper said:
ok i installed jedi, but mid install at installing voice recorder after modem installation, retaining current modem, it just locked up.
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Probably best to ask about this on the Jedi thread where lots of folks have experience with it. Hope it works out.
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fallen00sniper said:
ok i installed jedi, but mid install at installing voice recorder after modem installation, retaining current modem, it just locked up.
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Can you boot into your OS? Is everything working?
I agree with universexda, you'll get better answers in the Jedi thread.
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ok so basically i want to find a way to get to 4.3 either rooted or unrooted, my problem is that i have pretty bad ocd and one of my major major problems with that disorder is my tech devices, i will most likely have an anxsiety attack or 2 if i have to set up my phone from scratch and i will spend hours making it look exactly the same. anyway, i want to know:
1:how to update rooted gs3 Gt-i9305t 4g/lte model without loosing data (if possible )
2: update to 4.3 and un root without loosing data (im sure thats impossible )
i would really appreciate the help as i cannot find anyone looking for the same help as me (kinda strange how no one cares about there data at all, but meh)
also on a side note, i have the problem with my s3 where any sd card i put into the machine will eventually kill itself and never work again as far as i know, it has killed 3 32gb sd cards now and its starting to piss me off to the point where i am no longer using an sd card at all. why does the phone do this and is there any way to fix it? either software wise or hard wear wise? thanks !!! :fingers-crossed:
4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
that just sucks.
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4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
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that honestly sucks so much, thanks for the info though.
hey another quick question, is there a way to so a full backup, like im talking FULL, like down to the point of where ur apps are placed and all there data, like apple devices have through itunes?? (restore from backup option) cus if so then i dont mind wiping at all, i just hate apple so i will never go back to one of there piece of **** devices again (i like features with my shiny brick) but yeah anything like that? or can kies do that?
i'm using temasek 4.3 preview 3 atm, you should check it out since developer is extremely helpful
and he updates regularly (which is important)
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM) and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
The one thing I ahve NOT found a solution for is replacing my widgets back on the screens they are on - I run 7 screens and it pisses me off a full recovery in something like Titanium doesn't restore my widgets. The only way it happens is a full nandroid restore but that nukes the new ROM I have just installed so that's not an option.
I run Purelook HD as my 1st ROM, GoogyMax kernel and SlimBean as my 2nd ROM. I can nuke either or both and be back to my set up (including widgets) in about 45 minutes.
Journyman16 said:
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
OP - Please read the "Read before rooting" thread in my signature for more info.
**** that
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
adex9 said:
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
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We all spend hours making it look exactly the same. It's annoying but essential.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
Journyman16 said:
The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
Journyman16 said:
Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
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Yep, it could do.
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
moshepupkin said:
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
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Same here. I've been looking for the exact method to do this, but haven't had any luck so far.
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
moshepupkin said:
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
JJEgan said:
Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
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Well, let's see... there's everyone I know that also has this phone. People online that say they have this phone. Web sites saying that this phone has officially received 4.3. The phone itself saying there is an update for the firmware. So, basically everyone/thing except the Kies program.
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
JJEgan said:
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
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I already told you who said there is an update for my phone. Unless my phone is disguised as some one of a kind phone, I'm supposed to be able to update to 4.3.
Hi all,
This is the first time I've tried installing a custom ROM on my VZW S4 (i545) (MDK firmware. Yes, I held out on the OTA since May). I've got a few thoughts and a couple of questions I was hoping could be addressed. I consider myself familiar with flashing ROM's and whatnot, so I won't need hand-holding steps in answer to my questions.
Some info:
VZW S4
MDK Firmware
Recovery: OUDhs CWM Touch Req0very v1.0.3.5
I haven't taken any OTA since I got the phone back in May. This leads me to believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that I'm on Android 4.2.2?
Current ROM: AOKP Nightly Build for 10/31/2013 (MR2)
Thoughts: Holy hell, this ROM is BLAZING fast. I am missing a few features, but none I use regularly (I don't use any of the TouchWiz "smart" features. Damn battery hogs). I was able to flash this over and install GAPPS without any problems. Loading time is incredible, and I love how clean the interface is.
Questions:
Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot install CM10.2? Not sure if that's because I downloaded the wrong version or something, but after flashing it, the screen stays stuck at the Galaxy S4 logo and doesn't move. Maybe I didn't wait long enough, but it surely didn't move in any reasonably expected time (AOKP, by comparison, loaded probably <1 minute). Any thoughts on why this might be? I really want to try CM10.2, so perhaps I should try a different build?
Another question/concern: I downloaded a few different ROMs last night -- CM10.2, AOKP and st0ckdr0id. AOKP installed fine, CM10.2 froze up, but when I installed st0ckdr0id (after wiping out, of course), I got what I think is referred to as a kernel panic. The message was similar to "This phone has software installed on it that Verizon Wireless has determined to be unsafe. Please power off the phone and take to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help". In the top-left corner, it had in bold RED letters "Kernel secure: FAIL" (or similar wording). I fixed this by booting back into recovery, wiping out, and then installing AOKP again. Can anyone help me understand why this happened?
Why is only ~10GB of space still available when I -thought- I wiped out everything?
What I'm really searching for is an AOSP ROM that is very clean and light, but has SOME of the TouchWiz features. Any recommendations?
My phone only shows me as having a 3G connection, where normally I have 4G LTE. Anything I can do to fix this? Is this an issue with the ROM not detecting the right kind of radio? Bug report, perhaps?
I can't mount my external_sd in my CWM anymore. Yes, I used to be able to do it at one point, because I've done an external nandroid backup to it from within CWM in the past (as of October 29th, if the date on the backups is correct). I've read in other Google searches that it has something to do with the formatting of the SD card, but I haven't removed that SD card from my phone in a few months to have adjusted anything to do with formatting. I plugged the memory card into my Linux laptop this morning while diagnosing this and got an error about an unknown exfat partition. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Stupid question: Is there a way to -completely- wipe my internal SD card clean of all my current files? I know when I "wipe" /data I can still see all of my files from the previous installation, and I'm not ballsy enough to wipe /sdcard. I guess the question that then coincides with this is if I were able to completely wipe the phone, I assume that would wipe the recovery as well?
Sorry for some of the novice questions -- I have no problem messing with my old TF300T tablet (because NVFlash will save the day), but this is my only phone, only line of communication and SOLE way for me to answer calls for work (24/7 rotating on-call), so it is VERY important to me to ask questions and not go down for more than 1 hour.
Thanks for all help guys, its much appreciated. I hope to be able to test ROMs regularly and maybe start posting video reviews or something, who knows?
Thanks,
Opethfan89
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Hi all,
This is the first time I've tried installing a custom ROM on my VZW S4 (i545) (MDK firmware. Yes, I held out on the OTA since May). I've got a few thoughts and a couple of questions I was hoping could be addressed. I consider myself familiar with flashing ROM's and whatnot, so I won't need hand-holding steps in answer to my questions.
Some info:
VZW S4
MDK Firmware
Recovery: OUDhs CWM Touch Req0very v1.0.3.5
I haven't taken any OTA since I got the phone back in May. This leads me to believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that I'm on Android 4.2.2?
Current ROM: AOKP Nightly Build for 10/31/2013 (MR2)
Thoughts: Holy hell, this ROM is BLAZING fast. I am missing a few features, but none I use regularly (I don't use any of the TouchWiz "smart" features. Damn battery hogs). I was able to flash this over and install GAPPS without any problems. Loading time is incredible, and I love how clean the interface is.
Questions:
Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot install CM10.2? Not sure if that's because I downloaded the wrong version or something, but after flashing it, the screen stays stuck at the Galaxy S4 logo and doesn't move. Maybe I didn't wait long enough, but it surely didn't move in any reasonably expected time (AOKP, by comparison, loaded probably <1 minute). Any thoughts on why this might be? I really want to try CM10.2, so perhaps I should try a different build?
Another question/concern: I downloaded a few different ROMs last night -- CM10.2, AOKP and st0ckdr0id. AOKP installed fine, CM10.2 froze up, but when I installed st0ckdr0id (after wiping out, of course), I got what I think is referred to as a kernel panic. The message was similar to "This phone has software installed on it that Verizon Wireless has determined to be unsafe. Please power off the phone and take to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help". In the top-left corner, it had in bold RED letters "Kernel secure: FAIL" (or similar wording). I fixed this by booting back into recovery, wiping out, and then installing AOKP again. Can anyone help me understand why this happened?
Why is only ~10GB of space still available when I -thought- I wiped out everything?
What I'm really searching for is an AOSP ROM that is very clean and light, but has SOME of the TouchWiz features. Any recommendations?
My phone only shows me as having a 3G connection, where normally I have 4G LTE. Anything I can do to fix this? Is this an issue with the ROM not detecting the right kind of radio? Bug report, perhaps?
I can't mount my external_sd in my CWM anymore. Yes, I used to be able to do it at one point, because I've done an external nandroid backup to it from within CWM in the past (as of October 29th, if the date on the backups is correct). I've read in other Google searches that it has something to do with the formatting of the SD card, but I haven't removed that SD card from my phone in a few months to have adjusted anything to do with formatting. I plugged the memory card into my Linux laptop this morning while diagnosing this and got an error about an unknown exfat partition. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Stupid question: Is there a way to -completely- wipe my internal SD card clean of all my current files? I know when I "wipe" /data I can still see all of my files from the previous installation, and I'm not ballsy enough to wipe /sdcard. I guess the question that then coincides with this is if I were able to completely wipe the phone, I assume that would wipe the recovery as well?
Sorry for some of the novice questions -- I have no problem messing with my old TF300T tablet (because NVFlash will save the day), but this is my only phone, only line of communication and SOLE way for me to answer calls for work (24/7 rotating on-call), so it is VERY important to me to ask questions and not go down for more than 1 hour.
Thanks for all help guys, its much appreciated. I hope to be able to test ROMs regularly and maybe start posting video reviews or something, who knows?
Thanks,
Opethfan89
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Wow that's a lot. Let's see if we can get you answers.
1. Switch recoveries to twrp 2.5.0.2. I can't stress the importance of the particular version enough. There are others. This is absolutely the most stable. It's what the devs use. I think then your cm issue will be resolved.
Correct way to wipe with twrp.
1.wipe - >factory reset.
2. Advanced wipe - >check system, data, davlik, cache then wipe.
3. The go back to main screen and install rom.
2. Answered by answer one. Lots of people have lots of opinions about the various recoveries. All I can tell you is this is what all the devs use for their recovery. Can't argue with that.
3. Reserved space. It might say you have 16 gigs but a good size chunk is taking merely by formatting. Then the ROM and programs you have installed of course.
4. Honestly they are all freaking great. The aosp roms. You do the answer to number one and you can find out. DU is my fav @ this moment. Followed by beanstalk.
5. Go to mobile networks make sure your network mode is set to cdma +lte/evdo.
6. Answer 1.
7. You don't really want to wipe the entire internal SD card. Sounds good when you think it might screw you if you did it.
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Wow that's a lot. Let's see if we can get you answers.
1. Switch recoveries to twrp 2.5.0.2. I can't stress the importance of the particular version enough. There are others. This is absolutely the most stable. It's what the devs use. I think then your cm issue will be resolved.
Correct way to wipe with twrp.
1.wipe - >factory reset.
2. Advanced wipe - >check system, data, davlik, cache then wipe.
3. The go back to main screen and install rom.
2. Answered by answer one. Lots of people have lots of opinions about the various recoveries. All I can tell you is this is what all the devs use for their recovery. Can't argue with that.
3. Reserved space. It might say you have 16 gigs but a good size chunk is taking merely by formatting. Then the ROM and programs you have installed of course.
4. Honestly they are all freaking great. The aosp roms. You do the answer to number one and you can find out. DU is my fav @ this moment. Followed by beanstalk.
5. Go to mobile networks make sure your network mode is set to cdma +lte/evdo.
6. Answer 1.
7. You don't really want to wipe the entire internal SD card. Sounds good when you think it might screw you if you did it.
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Thanks for your response Mightycaptain! I used CWM as my first ever recovery and am kinda pressed on it, which is why I use it, but I have no issues going to TWRP if that means fixing my issues. Can you elaborate on how to install TWRP in place of my current CWM? I'll do some Googling in the meantime to try to find the answer myself. (I haven't done any flashing or rooting stuff since I got the phone in May!!)
Thanks for your answer in #5. Fixed the issue I was having.
My reason for wanting to wipe the entire internal SD card is there are still files, folders, logs and backups from when I had my previous ROM. I'm having issues restoring my nandroid backup from the night of the 7th so is it at all possible for me to salvage some of my settings, apps and file backups from those existing files? Once I fix my nandroid, I'm going to keep the nandroid backup in a safe place and I ideally want to have a completely clean phone to start from: That means getting rid of all those old files and other nonsense from before. Is this a possibility?
I'm going to spend my time today trying to extract data from my nandroid backups using ROM Toolbox Pro. If that doesn't work, I have a nandroid backup from the 31st that has 99% of the stuff I need so I'll try to restore that. If THAT doesn't work, then I'm going to cry myself to sleep while trying to remember all of my contacts
Wish me luck, and hopefully I can get some answers to my last few questions!
Thanks,
Opethfan89
opethfan89 said:
Thanks for your response Mightycaptain! I used CWM as my first ever recovery and am kinda pressed on it, which is why I use it, but I have no issues going to TWRP if that means fixing my issues. Can you elaborate on how to install TWRP in place of my current CWM? I'll do some Googling in the meantime to try to find the answer myself. (I haven't done any flashing or rooting stuff since I got the phone in May!!)
Thanks for your answer in #5. Fixed the issue I was having.
My reason for wanting to wipe the entire internal SD card is there are still files, folders, logs and backups from when I had my previous ROM. I'm having issues restoring my nandroid backup from the night of the 7th so is it at all possible for me to salvage some of my settings, apps and file backups from those existing files? Once I fix my nandroid, I'm going to keep the nandroid backup in a safe place and I ideally want to have a completely clean phone to start from: That means getting rid of all those old files and other nonsense from before. Is this a possibility?
I'm going to spend my time today trying to extract data from my nandroid backups using ROM Toolbox Pro. If that doesn't work, I have a nandroid backup from the 31st that has 99% of the stuff I need so I'll try to restore that. If THAT doesn't work, then I'm going to cry myself to sleep while trying to remember all of my contacts
Wish me luck, and hopefully I can get some answers to my last few questions!
Thanks,
Opethfan89
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Check my post here for twrp 2.5.0.2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47275165
You can flash it in your current recovery. It overwrites CWM. I would make sure you have a flashable for CWM just in case you need to go back for some reason. Also the backups between those 2 recoveries are not compatible. But I would nandroid with CWM before flashing twrp. I would also change were you recovery is pointing to for storage to the external SD if you haven't already. After you have cut your current backup and past it there. You can use rom toolbox pro to back up your contacts and restore it once you flash a new ROM.
Now as good advice going forward I would add your contacts to your Google account. That way when you flash new stuff or drop your phone in the toilet as soon as you add your Google account to the phone all those contacts will automatically download. But it is always a good idea to use tibu or rom toolbox pro to back up all your apps and seeing and use that after flashing roms to restore apps and settings.
But honestly I'd nandroid, move my contacts to Google, make app backups. Flash twrp. Then start flashing roms. You could be doing it in an hour. After you flash twrp make another nandroid so you have a twrp compatible backup. Then in a day or so of you are happy with everything delete the CWM backups for space.
Edit: as to extracting things from your current nandroid. Not sure if that is possible for one thing it is compressed not sure how that would work unless you are doing a full restore.
Also for future reference with TWRP. When restoring nandroid wipe like your flashing a new rom before restoring.
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Mightycaptain said:
Check my post here for twrp 2.5.0.2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47275165
You can flash it in your current recovery. It overwrites CWM. I would make sure you have a flashable for CWM just in case you need to go back for some reason. Also the backups between those 2 recoveries are not compatible. But I would nandroid with CWM before flashing twrp. I would also change were you recovery is pointing to for storage to the external SD if you haven't already. After you have cut your current backup and past it there. You can use rom toolbox pro to back up your contacts and restore it once you flash a new ROM.
Now as good advice going forward I would add your contacts to your Google account. That way when you flash new stuff or drop your phone in the toilet as soon as you add your Google account to the phone all those contacts will automatically download. But it is always a good idea to use tibu or rom toolbox pro to back up all your apps and seeing and use that after flashing roms to restore apps and settings.
But honestly I'd nandroid, move my contacts to Google, make app backups. Flash twrp. Then start flashing roms. You could be doing it in an hour. After you flash twrp make another nandroid so you have a twrp compatible backup. Then in a day or so of you are happy with everything delete the CWM backups for space.
Edit: as to extracting things from your current nandroid. Not sure if that is possible for one thing it is compressed not sure how that would work unless you are doing a full restore.
Also for future reference with TWRP. When restoring nandroid wipe like your flashing a new rom before restoring.
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Hey thanks again for your quick response!! I'm glad I checked this first, because I'm in my ROM Toolbox app atm and it has an option to let me install TWRP 2.5.0.2 from within the app itself. Should I do it this way?
I will be adding all contacts to Google from now on. Unfortunately I saved all my stuff to my Verizon backup assistant so I just need one last shot at my phone to save all those contacts (manually, if I must) and be able to enter them onto the new ROM.
By "flash it in your current recovery" I assume you mean download the .zip, place it on my internal /sdcard, and then "flash" it just like I would flash a ROM, right?
I'm sure I have a "flashable" for CWM somewhere but like I said, I haven't done any of this stuff on this phone since I first bought it, and things have changed so much with everyone having OTA's and being locked out that I'm not sure what process is the same or what has changed. I can't afford to lose this phone so I'm hesitant to go balls to the wall to try things.
I will try the things you've listed here. Seems like a nandroid + TiBu + Google Contacts is my best bet to get up and running each time I decide to try a new ROM.
Thanks again!
opethfan89 said:
Hey thanks again for your quick response!! I'm glad I checked this first, because I'm in my ROM Toolbox app atm and it has an option to let me install TWRP 2.5.0.2 from within the app itself. Should I do it this way?
I will be adding all contacts to Google from now on. Unfortunately I saved all my stuff to my Verizon backup assistant so I just need one last shot at my phone to save all those contacts (manually, if I must) and be able to enter them onto the new ROM.
By "flash it in your current recovery" I assume you mean download the .zip, place it on my internal /sdcard, and then "flash" it just like I would flash a ROM, right?
I'm sure I have a "flashable" for CWM somewhere but like I said, I haven't done any of this stuff on this phone since I first bought it, and things have changed so much with everyone having OTA's and being locked out that I'm not sure what process is the same or what has changed. I can't afford to lose this phone so I'm hesitant to go balls to the wall to try things.
I will try the things you've listed here. Seems like a nandroid + TiBu + Google Contacts is my best bet to get up and running each time I decide to try a new ROM.
Thanks again!
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Understand the hesitancy completely. But with nodding comes risk. It is always about whether you can accept the worst possible outcome.
Rom toolbox pro flashing recovery? I don't know never tried it.
Yes I would download the recovery. Leave it on SD card reboot to recovery and flash like a rom.
Yes nandroid tibu and saving your contacts to Google is the quickest way to get up and running again.
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Mightycaptain said:
Understand the hesitancy completely. But with nodding comes risk. It is always about whether you can accept the worst possible outcome.
Rom toolbox pro flashing recovery? I don't know never tried it.
Yes I would download the recovery. Leave it on SD card reboot to recovery and flash like a rom.
Yes nandroid tibu and saving your contacts to Google is the quickest way to get up and running again.
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Mighty, just wanted to report that flashing TWRP 2.5.0.2 from within ROM Toolbox Pro worked like a charm. I'm on TWRP as we speak.
Thank you so much for your responses. If anyone else has anything to add, or a different response to my questions, please do so! In the meantime, I'm going to try to figure out how to get my nandroid backup working...
Cheers!
*EDIT* Made a backup with TWRP (whose interface is bloody phenomenal, btw), flashed CWM and its working like a charm!! Going to try the st0ckdr0id one as well. Still working on getting that nandroid working so I can recover my stuff and get to customizing!
How do I make my stock partition smaller, or remove it completely to give to my Cyanogen Mod slot?
What values would I edit in the build.prop file for a Razr Maxx with Verizon?
Thanks a lot!
TheAndroid1 said:
How do I make my stock partition smaller, or remove it completely to give to my Cyanogen Mod slot?
What values would I edit in the build.prop file for a Razr Maxx with Verizon?
Thanks a lot!
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1. You can just wipe stock slot and install CM on it. You have to do it fresh and not restore a backup from another slot.
2. Why do you need to edit your build.prop?
Draxin said:
1. You can just wipe stock slot and install CM on it. You have to do it fresh and not restore a backup from another slot.
2. Why do you need to edit your build.prop?
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1. Is there another way to take space from the default slot and give it to the CM slot without having to reset it?
2. Because I need to download some carrier-specific/manufacturer apps that have all of my contacts.
TheAndroid1 said:
1. Is there another way to take space from the default slot and give it to the CM slot without having to reset it?
2. Because I need to download some carrier-specific/manufacturer apps that have all of my contacts.
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1. No, stock slot, is stock slot... all of that is predetermined space of the partition... If you have titanium backup Pro and a custom launcher... all you will really lose is time. Make sure you are saving to ext. sd just to be safe, backup your user apps, backup again for modified data, and you are fine. For the custom launcher, save your setup. After you flash over, restore. Depending on what/how much you have it could take a couple hours... some games that require extra data, you will still have to download it but, your progress should still be there. Double check if it is a game, as some of them only save via a cloud.
2. I may be ignorant to your particular situation/apps, but, if your previous device was a an android device, and you saved your contacts to your google I.D. they should be waiting for you, when you reactivate from the wipe/flash. When I got my first droid years ago, I was coming from a crappy flip phone from att, they were able to flash my conacts from the att sim over to my new droid. All my contacts are now saved via google.. so it doesn't matter what phone I boot up.. my contacts are waiting for me.
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Draxin said:
1. No, stock slot, is stock slot... all of that is predetermined space of the partition... If you have titanium backup Pro and a custom launcher... all you will really lose is time. Make sure you are saving to ext. sd just to be safe, backup your user apps, backup again for modified data, and you are fine. For the custom launcher, save your setup. After you flash over, restore. Depending on what/how much you have it could take a couple hours... some games that require extra data, you will still have to download it but, your progress should still be there. Double check if it is a game, as some of them only save via a cloud.
2. I may be ignorant to your particular situation/apps, but, if your previous device was a an android device, and you saved your contacts to your google I.D. they should be waiting for you, when you reactivate from the wipe/flash. When I got my first droid years ago, I was coming from a crappy flip phone from att, they were able to flash my conacts from the att sim over to my new droid. All my contacts are now saved via google.. so it doesn't matter what phone I boot up.. my contacts are waiting for me.
If I helped you, hit the thanks!
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Ok, I know what I'll be doing this weekend. Thanks!
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Will everything will work out if I install CM on the stock, and then delete ROM-Slot1?
TheAndroid1 said:
Ok, I know what I'll be doing this weekend. Thanks!
EDIT:
Will everything will work out if I install CM on the stock, and then delete ROM-Slot1?
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Keep slot 1 and it's backup til you have the stock slot the way you want it. That way, if you forgot something, you still have what you need til you figure out what you missed and it isn't gone for good.
When you do your wipes DO NOT TOUCH internal storage and micro SDcard... that is all your personal data.. there is where your backups are... you wipe them your screwed.. pictures.. music, all of it is gone, and no one can help you!
Draxin said:
Keep slot 1 and it's backup til you have the stock slot the way you want it. That way, if you forgot something, you still have what you need til you figure out what you missed and it isn't gone for good.
When you do your wipes DO NOT TOUCH internal storage and micro SDcard... that is all your personal data.. there is where your backups are... you wipe them your screwed.. pictures.. music, all of it is gone, and no one can help you!
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I've done what you've said, booted on to the stock ROM, and it's been on the CM boot screen for an hour, I still have the CM installed on stock ROM 1, what would've caused this problem?
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I've done what you've said, booted on to the stock ROM, and it's been on the CM boot screen for an hour, I still have the CM installed on stock ROM 1, what would've caused this problem?
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Lol.. now you know why you wanted to keep slot 1. Either the stock ROM didn't get fully wiped, the CM11 didn't install properly, or it was a bad download.
So. Just a recap, you are using safestrap 3.65 or higher. When you did your wipe, did you just factory reset, or did you go into advanced wipe and wiped Dalvik cache, android secure, data, cache, and system? The CM thread recommends advanced wipe, and doing it three times!
Draxin said:
Lol.. now you know why you wanted to keep slot 1. Either the stock ROM didn't get fully wiped, the CM11 didn't install properly, or it was a bad download.
So. Just a recap, you are using safestrap 3.65 or higher. When you did your wipe, did you just factory reset, or did you go into advanced wipe and wiped Dalvik cache, android secure, data, cache, and system? The CM thread recommends advanced wipe, and doing it three times!
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OK, I am gonna just start from the absolute beginning again:
I am flashing the Razr back to factory default with RSD Lite... Complete
Booting into the stock Android installation... Complete
Rooting device with RazrBlade... Complete
Installing Safestrap V3.65... Complete
Rebooting into Safestrap recovery... Complete
Wiping ROM Slot 1 3 times, wiping the same as 2 steps below... Complete
ADB Push CM onto /sdcard/
Install and configure CM on ROM Slot 1 as a fallback...Complete
Advanced wipe Stock slot 3 times, wiping the Dalvik cache, Android secure, data, cache, and system, this is where I messed up... Complete
Install and configure CM on Stock slot...Complete
Delete ROM Slot 1... I'll delete it once I have the Stock ROM fully finished.
It works, thanks for dealing with my stupidity
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OK, I am gonna just start from the absolute beginning again:
I am flashing the Razr back to factory default with RSD Lite... Complete
Booting into the stock Android installation... Complete
Rooting device with RazrBlade... Complete
Installing Safestrap V3.65... Complete
Rebooting into Safestrap recovery... Complete
Wiping ROM Slot 1 3 times, wiping the same as 2 steps below... Complete
ADB Push CM onto /sdcard/
Install and configure CM on ROM Slot 1 as a fallback...Complete
Advanced wipe Stock slot 3 times, wiping the Dalvik cache, Android secure, data, cache, and system, this is where I messed up... Complete
Install and configure CM on Stock slot...Complete
Delete ROM Slot 1... I'll delete it once I have the Stock ROM fully finished.
It works, thanks for dealing with my stupidity
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Not stupidity. Ignorance (for lack of a better word... look up the true meaning if you are taking offense.)
And just so you know, you probably went through a few extra more steps than you needed too. Stock wasn't damaged, just needed to be thoroughly wiped then reinstalled. Also if you had a backup of Slot one, after you did the firmware reflash with RSD then root and recovery, you could have just restored your slot 1 backup.. same thing, less time. Just a couple of tips.
It is certainly good that you aren't afraid to just reflash a fresh firmware though, that can solve a lot more problems than you think. Hone your searching skills, and you are golden