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Its hard to gather what order and what defines each build for the Verizon Galaxy S4 without a lot of reading. So here is my understanding! Please correct and or add onto this!!!
MDK - Original Build, can replace recovery, rootable
ME7 - 2nd build, cannot replace recovery, rootable, SafeStrap support
MI1 - 3rd build, cannot replace recovery, rootable, Safestrap support (you can install any ME7, or MI1 roms)
MJ7 - 4th build, cannot replace recovery, rootable, Safestrap is not supported
MK? -
ktamlyn said:
Its hard to gather what order and what defines each build for the Verizon Galaxy S4 without a lot of reading. So here is my understanding! Please correct and or add onto this!!!
MDK - Original Build, can replace recovery, rootable
ME7 - 2nd build, cannot replace recovery, rootable, extensive SafeStrap support
MI1 - 3rd build, cannot replace recovery, rootable, limited Safestrap support due to limited ROM selection* (HyperDrive only?)
MJ7 - 4th build, cannot replace recovery, rootable, Safestrap is not supported
Is it true that you cannot run ME7 Roms on a MI1 device using Safestrap?
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No, You can run any ROM on MI1 that suports Safestrap on ME7 & is based on TouchWiz. You would just flash the MI1 kernel modules after you finish installing the ROM.
The only difference between ME7 and MI1 really is that screen rotation is broken on MI1 if you run a custom rom. Also MK2 is the newest build now.
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Thanks this helped me greatly. Going to Odin back to MDK after reading this.
What are you on right now? You can't downgrade firmware.
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joshm.1219 said:
What are you on right now? You can't downgrade firmware.
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I just got a phone sent back from warranty and it's currently running on the MI1 firmware you can still used xposed framework and stuff if i were to root it right? Would you advise rooting now, or at what stage of firmware?
If you're in MI1 I wouldn't upgrade, it's the last build that you can still run safestrap on.
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joshm.1219 said:
If you're in MI1 I wouldn't upgrade, it's the last build that you can still run safestrap on.
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So i can follow the MI1 root instructions and install safestrap , but will this void my warranty? i heard something about how something like a code change triggers a signal on their servers or something,to void warranty but is that with Knox?
Rooting your phone is technically voiding warranty, although there are ways to get back to complete stock. No servers are triggered and the rooting instructions will have you getrid of knox.
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joshm.1219 said:
Rooting your phone is technically voiding warranty, although there are ways to get back to complete stock. No servers are triggered and the rooting instructions will have you getrid of knox.
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yeah, but there are "unroot" methods right? if i did that and had to use a warranty would they recognize it if i went back to stock recovery and unrooted? i've done a bit of research, only a little fuzzy now, jus cuz I started my saturday night a little early :victory: :good:
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I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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dsmendiola said:
I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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Remove safestrap using the directions in the Safestrap thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441)
Then follow the "Update to VRUEMJ7 and Keep Root" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408)
dsmendiola said:
I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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Don't do it.
Get something that you can flash based on the newer firmware.
If you have safestrap and you like the ability, don't update to MJ7.
k1mu said:
Remove safestrap using the directions in the Safestrap thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441)
Then follow the "Update to VRUEMJ7 and Keep Root" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408)
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Thank you! Much appreciated.
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tech_head said:
Don't do it.
Get something that you can flash based on the newer firmware.
If you have safestrap and you like the ability, don't update to MJ7.
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I did enjoy the ability, but then I started messing with xposed framework and noticed those tweaks are what I cared for. Touchwiz doesn't bother me and with the touchwiz tweaks it makes it similar to custom rom.
I do however will only go to mj7 if there is root method, which I've read there is..
Thanks for your input.
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Yea, but the root is an installer from China......
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Yea, but the root is an installer from China......
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No, using that method to retain root through the OTA does not use Vroot. I used that method successfully and am on mj7 and have root.
No Chinese stuff
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
No, using that method to retain root through the OTA does not use Vroot. I used that method successfully and am on mj7 and have root.
No Chinese stuff
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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You can keep root through the upgrade.
What happens if you need to flash your device??????
THen you need vRoot.
I'm just saying, I won't move to a new OTA unless there is a reliable root method.
With my luck something goes south and I need to re-root after a flash.
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You can keep root through the upgrade.
What happens if you need to flash your device??????
THen you need vRoot.
I'm just saying, I won't move to a new OTA unless there is a reliable root method.
With my luck something goes south and I need to re-root after a flash.
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Yes if you were on one of the previous basebands you could take the mj7 OTA and keep root. Like shown here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
And yea.. As soon as you're on mj7 you're stuck there, no going back. If you had to flash mj7 for some reason after all that, then you would be left with the choice of using those Chinese root methods. But that guide that was already mentioned above by another poster worked prefect for me.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
My S4 shipped with mi1 however I immediately rooted and frozen sdm
Now since there are safe root with the latest ota, should I update or not? is there any chance that unlocking bootloader on MI1 would be easier than MK2 or they are essentially the same?
This locked phone is really frustrating
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My S4 shipped with mi1 however I immediately rooted and frozen sdm
Now since there are safe root with the latest ota, should I update or not? is there any chance that unlocking bootloader on MI1 would be easier than MK2 or they are essentially the same?
This locked phone is really frustrating
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I only have a few days experience with this, but in everything I've been reading, there's nothing really past MDK that works with the recovery images...think we're stuck with MK2 until the pros figure it out.
-Walker
Safestrap 3.7x works with JB 4.3 ROMs so you can Rom away.
Have to agree with equake here.
You're already past MDK, so AOSP-based ROMs are no longer an option while the bootloader is locked, BUT there are several good ROMs available for booting from Safestrap.
Lots of them listed here (try Verizon GPE and HyperDrive first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448726
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vt0r said:
Have to agree with equake here.
You're already past MDK, so AOSP-based ROMs are no longer an option while the bootloader is locked, BUT there are several good ROMs available for booting from Safestrap.
Lots of them listed here (try Verizon GPE and HyperDrive first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448726
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Just a side note.. Hyperdrive 12 only works on Safestrap 3.71 which is either mj7 or mk2. And us 4.3 users really only have HD 12 and maybe a couple others to choose from currently. No GPE as that was on 4.2.
Again there are people working to bring more roms our way on 4.3 you can find them in the dev section and Eclipse is gonna be coming soon for us to I hear.
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equake said:
Safestrap 3.7x works with JB 4.3 ROMs so you can Rom away.
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There's Omega, darthstalker, foxhound and Hyperdrive last I checked.
ImO Hyperdrive and Foxhound are the ones to really check out.
Not a huge difference option wise... Hyperdrive and foxhound seem to be tricked out the most. I'm a Hyperdrive man myself.
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If you are already beyond MDK, the only reason not to upgrade is no method of root or getting back to stock.
Right now not an issue.
I was rooted on MI1 just went directly to MK2.
No Wipe MK2 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Saferoot -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
GS4 Tether Unlock -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
Thanks then i will just upgrade and root
Hopefully the bl gets solved soon
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I updated my phone from MDK to ME7 when I first purchased it. I also put a custom Google edition ROM 4.2 on it. I'm having trouble finding a guide that tells me how to go back to stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Graphene [x] said:
I updated my phone from MDK to ME7 when I first purchased it. I also put a custom Google edition ROM 4.2 on it. I'm having trouble finding a guide that tells me how to go back to stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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So you loki'd the phone...loaded a custom recovery to install a custom rom. ..?
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
I'm not sure what Loki means but I rooted my phone, put safe strap on it and installed a custom ROM.
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I'm not sure what Loki means but I rooted my phone, put safe strap on it and installed a custom ROM.
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Ok. That is what I'm checking. You can odin back to a stock me7
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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I'm not sure what Loki means but I rooted my phone, put safe strap on it and installed a custom ROM.
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I was actually just searching for a fix for my custom recovery lokid mdk phone. I flashed a stock 4.3 mk2 rom and all was well until i tried to flash an aroma mod that caused my phone to go into unauthorized software detected by verizon message on reboot.(it was in the verizon i545 section) thought I'd odin back to mdk and reroot, flash custom recovery, restore back up, etc but now i'm stuck in a stock verizon bootloop. ideas?
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Ok. That is what I'm checking. You can odin back to a stock me7
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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OK thanks I'll give it a try tomorrow. I plan on selling my phone to get a new one and I just want it all on stock. After I flash with Odin will safe strap be removed or do I need to do something else to remove it?
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Odin an emergency version that wipes the phone to remove all traces. Others just clear the system and don't touch data.
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thevance1 said:
I was actually just searching for a fix for my custom recovery lokid mdk phone. I flashed a stock 4.3 mk2 rom and all was well until i tried to flash an aroma mod that caused my phone to go into unauthorized software detected by verizon message on reboot.(it was in the verizon i545 section) thought I'd odin back to mdk and reroot, flash custom recovery, restore back up, etc but now i'm stuck in a stock verizon bootloop. ideas?
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My first impression if you odined a mk2 stock rom, you have lost your mdk loki exploit.....you have locked your bootloader up. Thats my first impression as I really don't know much about S4 phones before ME7.
Since I started on MDK and updated to ME7 are you sure I need to flash the ME7 stock with Odin instead of MDK? I just want to make sure so I don't soft brick my phone.
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If you went up to me7 as an update and not flashable zip, then you cannot go to mdk. No. You have to go to me7.
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Currently on Jelly Beans 7 with MDK and using TWRP recovery on my Verizon S4. I've been using this for so long without much desire to update..
Starting to get the urge to update again.
What am I missing staying on mdk 4.2.2?
And if I do decide to upgrade, is TWRP still the recovery of choice?
What's my upgrade path from here? Flash back to stock mdk and take OTA, or move directly to a rooted 4.3 ROM?
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Do not take an ota. You have the most desirable build #
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Currently on Jelly Beans 7 with MDK and using TWRP recovery on my Verizon S4. I've been using this for so long without much desire to update..
Starting to get the urge to update again.
What am I missing staying on mdk 4.2.2?
And if I do decide to upgrade, is TWRP still the recovery of choice?
What's my upgrade path from here? Flash back to stock mdk and take OTA, or move directly to a rooted 4.3 ROM?
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I agree. I wouldn't take the OTA. There are 4.3 and 4.4 based ROMs that you can flash. Once you upgrade, you'll be stuck on whatever build Samsung issues (right now, that's 4.3).
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And if I do decide to upgrade, is TWRP still the recovery of choice?
What's my upgrade path from here? Flash back to stock mdk and take OTA, or move directly to a rooted 4.3 ROM?
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You should just flash a 4.3 ROM. Search the android development thread. There's no need to loose your unlocked bootloader.
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tsitalon1 said:
Currently on Jelly Beans 7 with MDK and using TWRP recovery on my Verizon S4. I've been using this for so long without much desire to update..
Starting to get the urge to update again.
What am I missing staying on mdk 4.2.2?
And if I do decide to upgrade, is TWRP still the recovery of choice?
What's my upgrade path from here? Flash back to stock mdk and take OTA, or move directly to a rooted 4.3 ROM?
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Just flash a 4.3 ROM like Hyperdrive RLS13... You will be very happy.
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You should just flash a 4.3 ROM. Search the android development thread. There's no need to loose your unlocked bootloader.
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MDK doesn't have an unlocked bootloader... They just have an exploit that allows a workaround.
I agree with everyone above. Don't take the OTA. Since you have MDK you also have a custom recovery and can flash many ROMs. There are many flavors on 4.3 and 4.4 available currently. Read about them, the available features, and such. Then decide what you want.
OP: Should I upgrade from MDK??
XDA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fyar4wJ3-Y
We know the bootloader isn't actually unlicked on mdk.... I think that's just lamans terms so people know what they have lol. Seriously no offense to the op at all.... Its just amazing how some people are running custom recoveries and ROMs on MDK s4's and then think of taking ota's
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Just in case OP is confused I want to clarify that MDK is the bootloader. You want to preserve that because it allows the installation of custom recoveries. This is separate from the baseband which may also be labeled MDK. You can always update your Radio baseband without losing root, however you would not want to do this with an OTA. You would want to download this from xda as a flashable zip.
Is there a list or can we start one regarding safestrap ROMS? Love the phone and its the MDK locked bootloader so im stuck with safestrap. Currently using gogolies amazing roms and i enjoy checking other roms, but not sure which i can flash.
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happy2472 said:
Is there a list or can we start one regarding safestrap ROMS? Love the phone and its the MDK locked bootloader so im stuck with safestrap. Currently using gogolies amazing roms and i enjoy checking other roms, but not sure which i can flash.
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you have the MDK bootloader? you know this bootloader can be used with TWRP and can flash AOSP ROMs, right?
Let me rephrase what I was saying I have the Verizon s4 which was MDK bootloader but since it has been updated to nc5 and k1 and so on and I was just looking for a list of ROMs
To use with safestrap however I'm trying to find an mdk odin file and go back to that stock mdk and loki the phone
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Once you've upgraded past mdk there is no going back.
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Yeah, but back to the original question--is there a list of ROMs 'flashable' with Safestrap?
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