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Hello
Just purchased a SK17i Xperia Mini Pro Black Version that is locked to 02 (UK network). I am obvously new to all this stuff but do have a basic understanding but here are some questions:
1) I am thinking of waiting until Android 4.0 is Officially released by SE to update my phone (btw, anyone know when the update is coming). Was wondering when I update will I still be able to root my phone?
2) When I root (if I can) I want to install Set CPU to overclock my phone. However I have heard this drains batteries? Is this true and if so how can I make my phone faster?
3) I need to unlock my phone. Can this be done for free after rooting? If not, can someone link me to the cheapest place I can get this unlocked from?
Thanks in advance to anyone that answers
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
noradoor said:
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
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Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
subbyhasan said:
Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
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There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
BudgyN1 said:
There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
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Thanks alot, will take a look at that website
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
Thanks
good thing in the sense? If you don't bother about warranty then you can try custom ROM ics.but the problem is some bugs are not fixed by developers they will take time.main bug is camera not working..i am using ics so just check k? Good luck
Xperian8~ click thanks if it helps...
subbyhasan said:
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
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He meant that the Wotanserver network-unlock method might unlock your bootloader (which it does). This bootloader unlock, whilst giving you access to custom ROMs etc, might not behave with official SONY updates (such as ICS) - I'd link you for proof but I'm not allowed to due to my low post count .
Also, Google 'Omnius Unlock'. They will unlock your phone for free over the next few days (Easter promotion). I'm not sure how reputable those guys are though so you'll want to check.
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
subbyhasan said:
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
BudgyN1 said:
If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
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He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
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notoxa said:
Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
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Ah, right. Makes everything at lot clearer thanks
So if I do unlock through the Wotanserver place, my bootloader will be unlocked but I wouldn't be able to get official ICS, but a just as good if not better copy? Is the ROM fully stable as in does everything function fine? I have heard of an ICS ROM which stopped HD recording on Xperias. Does this have any such problem?
Someguyfromhell said:
He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
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Hopefully will but doubt I can update now anyways
Can I just say thank you to every single poster on this thread. You have all been immensely helpful. There are few forums which reply so quickly and as well as many people on here have done so thanks a lot to everyone
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
lord.tomriddle said:
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
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What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
subbyhasan said:
What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
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MY flashtooll aint showing the ftf files..
and you need to unlock bootloader..
got to http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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Thanks for that, do you have a link for me which I can use?
And just generally, can I add that this is the way to get MiniCMSanwich ROM on my XMP:
Root (zerg's software) (not needed but useful so might as well do it then)
Unlock Bootloader (from SE's website or the link which hopefully the above poster/someone else gives me)
Kernel Installation (Flashtool)
Finally, flash the ROM and Gapps using Clockwork Mod Recovery
Thanks
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
Someguyfromhell said:
It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
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Ah, right will probably leave it then
Thanks a lot
As I said its make much easyer
there you go mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560613
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
brahweiz said:
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
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You cannot flash kernels in locked bootloader.. And most of the mods are also there for unlocked one.. Unlocked bootloader has very few Roms.. Better unlock it and experience a whole new world for your phone
There's no different in apps or mod.
But there's rom. Most rom here are build for unlock bootloader, u can overclock and stuff.
Pretty cool but u will lose DRM keys. So no more "download music info" in walkman. All apps that need DRM keys won't work,
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darth5zaft said:
There's no different in apps or mod.
But there's rom. Most rom here are build for unlock bootloader, u can overclock and stuff.
Pretty cool but u will lose DRM keys. So no more "download music info" in walkman. All apps that need DRM keys won't work,
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what is the diff btwn or how they make same ROM available for locked and unlocked boot loader
Is the xpedia's bootloader locked by default? If so how can I unlock it? ?
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fdothivanka said:
Is the xpedia's bootloader locked by default? If so how can I unlock it? ?
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Yes it is, and there are guides in this forums by DoomLord.
From my own experience, the only thing I miss is walkman's "download music info" which I don't consider important. If you are one of the "flashers" I suggest unlocking it
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brahweiz said:
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
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lock bootloader mean u can't flash any kernel and u just can flash stock based rom..unlock bootloader allowed u to flash any custom kernel that is compatible with any custom rom u want to flash..
Hit thanks if u understand what i'm explaining..:good:
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mmckoyuki said:
lock bootloader mean u can't flash any kernel and u just can flash stock based rom..unlock bootloader allowed u to flash any custom kernel that is compatible with any custom rom u want to flash
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This and other mentioned are RESULTS of difference but where is difference ITSELF ?
WHY cant I flash any kernel except stock ?
Don't tell me "because you go brick".
It is RESULT.
I can flash stock rom and it communicates with locked BL however - I think - new stock rom has it's own management of booting.
Then - base question is NOT explained and I am really curious of answer.
Locked bootloader means it can only boot sony signed kernel
NO CUSTOM KERNEL NO ALWAYS ROOT
Unlocked means it can boot any kernel made for that device
You can always have root and have custom kernels
You can also get CM and all new features
The rom for locked bootloader can work in unlocked but vice versa is dangerous
jatinrungta said:
Locked bootloader means it can only boot sony signed kernel
NO CUSTOM KERNEL NO ALWAYS ROOT
Unlocked means it can boot any kernel made for that device
You can always have root and have custom kernels
You can also get CM and all new features
The rom for locked bootloader can work in unlocked but vice versa is dangerous
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u can root on locked bootloader:fingers-crossed:
Does bravia engine works with unlocked bootloader?
And which apps need DRM keys?I'm thinking of unlocking my bootloader.
Mtakween said:
u can root on locked bootloader:fingers-crossed:
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I know that I meant its not sure if new firmware will be rooted or not or will take how much time to get rooted but with unlocked you can always root
umair42 said:
Does bravia engine works with unlocked bootloader?
And which apps need DRM keys?I'm thinking of unlocking my bootloader.
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NO, bravia won't work and this is the only thing i miss from locked bootloader.
As far as i know DRM stand for Digital rights management, so you can't download music info anymore. But there are many modded walkman apps can do that.
GVN.Gallus said:
NO, bravia won't work and this is the only thing i miss from locked bootloader.
As far as i know DRM stand for Digital rights management, so you can't download music info anymore. But there are many modded walkman apps can do that.
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No bravia engine so no unlocked bootloader for me.I will stay with locked bl then.
Mtakween said:
u can root on locked bootloader:fingers-crossed:
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Yes. That I did, on older stock ROM, ST26i_11.0.A.3.28_WE. Lost root after upgrade to latest.
Downgraded, prefer have root than latest ROM however speed is about 15% higher on new ROM, must be better kernel and libraries.
F308 said:
Yes. That I did, on older stock ROM, ST26i_11.0.A.3.28_WE. Lost root after upgrade to latest.
Downgraded, prefer have root than latest ROM however speed is about 15% higher on new ROM, must be better kernel and libraries.
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why would u want to downgrade? u can have root access on every ROM even if your bootloader is locked.
So for unlocked bootloader just flash a custom kernel with "autoroot" function. Once u flashed that kernel, u will have root access after reboot.
For both locked and unlocked bootloader this tool from b1nary should also work...
BTW dude ST26i? Thats Xperia J... This is the P, U, Sola & Go forum...:silly:
darth5zaft said:
There's no different in apps or mod.
But there's rom. Most rom here are build for unlock bootloader, u can overclock and stuff.
Pretty cool but u will lose DRM keys. So no more "download music info" in walkman. All apps that need DRM keys won't work,
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i found rom with walkman (i cant rember which) i could download music tracks info. i have sola with unlocked bootloader.
sorry for my bad english
My Xperia z walkman mod had. A fix for download music info
For unlocked bootloader
Press thanks if I helped
brahweiz said:
Like title.
Since I can root my phone with both unlocked and locked bootloader so I want to know if there's anything different like ROMs, apps, mods, etc...
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As the name suggests LOCKED BOOTLOADER means the bootloader is locked and cant be accessed, so you can't install custom kernels as it is locked with the kernel by Sony itself......yes you will lose your DRM keys,you cant use trackid and the download music info which are somewhat pretty useless for me........those were such small sacrifices so you can access the vast open world of modding your phone.....hppe that helps.
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BTW dude ST26i? Thats Xperia J... This is the P, U, Sola & Go forum...:silly:
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I missed it. Thanx for info.
I landed here via search engine. Question was universal enough to fit anywhere.
I've decided to root my phone... as far as I know I won't lose my warranty If I'll be rooted right?
So All I want is just root permissions... NO custom ROMS or Kernels.
I am using GB stock 6.0.B.3.184 firmware android 2.3.7
So Do I need to unlock my bootloader to root? Or I can proceed without doing that?
And could someone provide me with link how to root Xperia Sola with GB stock firmware?
Thank's
Please... I have looked everywhere.
Also found sources where people are searching for a way to root phone without upgrading to ICS with no luck.
man, i dont know is this work for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849030&highlight=root+gb
u need unlock ur bootloader and follow the steps
pa4ka16 said:
Please... I have looked everywhere.
Also found sources where people are searching for a way to root phone without upgrading to ICS with no luck.
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You can root without unlocking your bootloader. Bootloader need to be unlocked only if you want to flash custom kernels or roms like cm9,cm10, miui etc.
You can try this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Confirmed on the first post that works on sola also. Hope works with gb also
DaRk-L0rD said:
You can root without unlocking your bootloader. Bootloader need to be unlocked only if you want to flash custom kernels or roms like cm9,cm10, miui etc.
You can try this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Confirmed on the first post that works on sola also. Hope works with gb also
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says It's for ICS/JB.
Nothing mentioned about GB... I'll better ask If it can be done on GB as well.
Thanks
zmeu27, your suggested method looks too complicated and I don t want to lose my warranty. Thanks anyway.
pa4ka16 said:
says It's for ICS/JB.
Nothing mentioned about GB... I'll better ask If it can be done on GB as well.
Thanks
zmeu27, your suggested method looks too complicated and I don t want to lose my warranty. Thanks anyway.
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My bad mate. Try this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849030.
Hope this works. I don't use gb and can't tell you for sure which is the best choice, i am looking in various threads to find the best way.
You can also have GB with root permissions with a LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Check out the following thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063029
DaRk-L0rD said:
My bad mate. Try this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849030.
Hope this works. I don't use gb and can't tell you for sure which is the best choice, i am looking in various threads to find the best way.
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Thanks for your effort, I appreciate that
This one says It needs fastboot, so do I really need to unlock bootloader?
How hard is it..? To unlock bootloader, As far as I know it can be done at Sony homepage, Whats the advantage of unlocking it and do it has any cons... already know that it means lost wariaty, and that's a risk.
And finally can bootloader be locked again? To make everything as it used to be?
lol98lol98 said:
You can also have GB with root permissions with a LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Check out the following thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063029
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This will upgrade my phone to ICS isn't it?
I don't really wan't to upgrade my phone to ICS,
Can I do it somehow ending with GB ?
Sorry for DP.
I just rooted my sola when I got it in first 5 days my sola got rooted
Without unlocking the bootloader
And I was using Gingerbread
I will search on how to do it cause I forgot about that
Hope I can help soon
Mtakween said:
I just rooted my sola when I got it in first 5 days my sola got rooted
Without unlocking the bootloader
And I was using Gingerbread
I will search on how to do it cause I forgot about that
Hope I can help soon
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ok, hope you can find it
Thanks mate
pa4ka16 said:
This will upgrade my phone to ICS isn't it?
I don't really wan't to upgrade my phone to ICS,
Can I do it somehow ending with GB ?
Sorry for DP.
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Yes but after finishing the steps u will get back to gingerbread
With root permission and locked bootloader
And you can Press thanks better than typing it
Mtakween said:
Yes but after finishing the steps u will get back to gingerbread
With root permission and locked bootloader
And you can Press thanks better than typing it
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That's excaltey what I need, did u find the link?
''Thank's" button has been hit
pa4ka16 said:
That's excaltey what I need, did u find the link?
''Thank's" button has been hit
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The same thread link posted by lol98lol98
Mtakween said:
The same thread link posted by lol98lol98
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And It really worked for you?
I'll guess I have to try
pa4ka16 said:
And It really worked for you?
I'll guess I have to try
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Yes it is working
Since large part of us might get their Z2s this week (hopefully including me :silly, I'd like to know what options we have to make our Xperias secure with soon-to-arrive custom ROMs.
From what I managed to find, the most convenient option (at least theoretically) would be to:
- unlock bootloader
- flash custom recovery
- flash custom ROM
- reflash stock recovery to prevent lockscreen bypass and adb access in general
- relock bootloader to prevent flashing custom recovery and regaining adb by potential attacker.
- then if needed, reflash recovery online if rooted, reflash new/updated ROM, reflash stock recovery back
Now, I've read that Xperia Z2 (other Zs probably as well) will softbrick with locked botloader and custom ROM/kernel, rendering this method useless. Am I right?
If yes, what other options do we have?
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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numskull said:
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
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I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
waynekirby said:
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
Garaddon said:
So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
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Well... On newer Xperia's (2012+) you can flash a recovery to the TArecovery partition, so you could remove it I suppose... But if the kernel you are using has a custom recovery baked in (they usually do on Xperia) then you could flash back the stock kernel, if you don't want recovery on stock based ROM. but as far as CM is concerned, you cannot remove recovery.
And yes all CM has recovery baked into Xperia kernels. We'll have official CM support from FXP team as soon as they receive their device too. Good times ahead
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shollywood said:
I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
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Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
numskull said:
Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
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What gets lost or stops working properly?
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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Not sure, thats why i aint doing nothing to it, apparently theres a folder that contains licence keys, which you will lose when you unlock bootloader. until i know a bit more about it, i aint messing with it
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
Xernoxis said:
You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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What would I need the keys for? Sony sends the code to unlock the bootloader.
Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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Xernoxis said:
You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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That was the one, i knew it was something important. thats why im waiting till there a root without unlocking, i could probably manage without most of it, but i want the bravia engine working and any other screen or audio stuff it affects, altho i was wondering, could you not just redownload the stuff you want and in doing so aquire new keys?? or is it not that simple?
waynekirby said:
Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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Mine all seems to still work...odd
shollywood said:
Mine all seems to still work...odd
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This were from what happened on XT, XZ etc... I hope you're right buddy
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i predict that this time next week enough people will have z2's that we'll have all our answers
So, i finally made a decision so root my Z2 But first i wanna ask some stuff.. What do i need to know first of all ? All i want root for is so i can copy apps to my sd card thats it =) But then again.. Once i root can i delete it incase i need my warranty back?? What is the easist way to root Z2 ? Do i need a custom recovery ?? What can go wrong rooting Z2 ? And i assume i got locked bootloader from start? Regards.
Croize said:
So, i finally made a decision so root my Z2 But first i wanna ask some stuff.. What do i need to know first of all ? All i want root for is so i can copy apps to my sd card thats it =) But then again.. Once i root can i delete it incase i need my warranty back?? What is the easist way to root Z2 ? Do i need a custom recovery ?? What can go wrong rooting Z2 ? And i assume i got locked bootloader from start? Regards.
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you do not need a custom recovery and with root not much can go wrong,
Rooting does not affect your bootloader
rooting does however affect your warrenty, removing of root does restore the status of your warenty since the modifacations no longer exist
you do not need recovery
your bootloader is locked from being manufactured, its only unlocked if someone unlocks it which sony wouldent do as its used to monitor if someone has modified their device but root exploits is a way around this
Envious_Data said:
you do not need a custom recovery and with root not much can go wrong,
Rooting does not affect your bootloader
rooting does however affect your warrenty, removing of root does restore the status of your warenty since the modifacations no longer exist
you do not need recovery
your bootloader is locked from being manufactured, its only unlocked if someone unlocks it which sony wouldent do as its used to monitor if someone has modified their device but root exploits is a way around this
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So what root do you recommend me using ? im on latest build at the moment, i just read some people cant start phone after root etc.. but idk =) i will still try cause i rly dont wanna fill phone with apps, Rather on SD =) and greenify is a must ofc Nothing i need to think of backing up before root process?
Croize said:
So what root do you recommend me using ? im on latest build at the moment, i just read some people cant start phone after root etc.. but idk =) i will still try cause i rly dont wanna fill phone with apps, Rather on SD =) and greenify is a must ofc Nothing i need to think of backing up before root process?
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one of the ones on the how to root part
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
Envious_Data said:
one of the ones on the how to root part
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
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All good.. finished root =) now i just need to read if i need warranty.. but should be just as easy to TFT right ?
Croize said:
All good.. finished root =) now i just need to read if i need warranty.. but should be just as easy to TFT right ?
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if you uninstall root from within the supersu app your warrenty is no longer voided because there is no evidance of root being there
if you modified your system you can install a FTF using flashtool to get totaly stock
Envious_Data said:
if you uninstall root from within the supersu app your warrenty is no longer voided because there is no evidance of root being there
if you modified your system you can install a FTF using flashtool to get totaly stock
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Can i simply uninstall root from supersu app lol?
Croize said:
Can i simply uninstall root from supersu app lol?
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no because it installs to the system, just open the supersu app and hit uninstall
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no because it installs to the system, just open the supersu app and hit uninstall
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Whenever i need =) Flashed my first rom, Will try yours to, but read its issues.. Dont wanna start somthing i cant solve =)
Croize said:
Whenever i need =) Flashed my first rom, Will try yours to, but read its issues.. Dont wanna start somthing i cant solve =)
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only test versions of my rom has issues V0.2b is fine but its for 402 kernel not 314 kernel which i do believe you was using
Envious_Data said:
only test versions of my rom has issues V0.2b is fine but its for 402 kernel not 314 kernel which i do believe you was using
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Yes i am m8 >.<