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Hey you guys. Currently own the HTC Touch Pro 2 AKA AT&T Tilt 2
I'd love to own the new HD2 but I dont know where to find one online for a good price and if its capable of the AT&T 3G GSM bands.
Second phone I'm deciding on is the Sony Xperia X10, and again, I see the only 3G band it can get from AT&T is the 2100 band.
So the lesser the bands it can connect to, the less 3G service I can get? Am I correct?
Thanks.
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You'll need a Telstra HD2 if you want AT&T 3G. As for the X10, the Canadian Rogers version would work on AT&T 3G bands as well.
chuck232 said:
You'll need a Telstra HD2 if you want AT&T 3G. As for the X10, the Canadian Rogers version would work on AT&T 3G bands as well.
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Thanks Chuck. I've seen the Telstra HD2's and their really expensive at the moment and have to load a hack rom on it for it to work.
What would you think of this Xperia?
http://www.puremobile.com/Sony-Ericsson/Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-X10-Black-GSM-Phone/
Hey you guys, got a question about an unlocked TMOBILE HD2, would it work with AT&T 3G network?
Thanks.
youngWMuser said:
Thanks Chuck. I've seen the Telstra HD2's and their really expensive at the moment and have to load a hack rom on it for it to work.
What would you think of this Xperia?
http://www.puremobile.com/Sony-Ericsson/Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-X10-Black-GSM-Phone/
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That one won't work with AT&T 3G. You're looking for something with 850/1900MHz 3G support. The white version of the X10 on that site would work.
youngWMuser said:
Hey you guys, got a question about an unlocked TMOBILE HD2, would it work with AT&T 3G network?
Thanks.
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No, T-Mobile and AT&T do not use the same 3G bands. It will not be compatible with AT&T's 3G network. The best you'll get is EDGE.
chuck232 said:
That one won't work with AT&T 3G. You're looking for something with 850/1900MHz 3G support. The white version of the X10 on that site would work.
No, T-Mobile and AT&T do not use the same 3G bands. It will not be compatible with AT&T's 3G network. The best you'll get is EDGE.
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Thank you again Chuck. I appreciate it. Now I will decide what cellphone to pick.
Hello,
I recently bought a HTC HD2 and gotten unlocked to work with my ATT sim card also I had someone install the 2.2 Froyo Android software using Cyanogen Mod 6. Since I had the phone I have only been using Edge network and I know for sure we have 3g coverage. How can I get my 3G network to work on my phone? Please help. I am a newb when it comes to cell phones.
Thanks
Matt
someone correct me if i am wrong but the 3g bands for att and t-mo are different so even if you have 3g coverage you would only get edge. For faster speeds youll have to use wifi.
Do you have a Telstra-branded HD2? IIRC, Telstra uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. In that case you should be able to get 3G. Otherwise, the unbranded & T-Mo branded HD2s wouldn't work with AT&T 3G.
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jaekidd1012 said:
Do you have a Telstra-branded HD2? IIRC, Telstra uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. In that case you should be able to get 3G. Otherwise, the unbranded & T-Mo branded HD2s wouldn't work with AT&T 3G.
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I don't know how to check that but this HD2 used by a previous ower having Tmobile. Still having the same problem. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
Thread moved in HD2 Android Development.
but this isn't hd2 android section
No 3G on the TMOus HD2 on ATT
mattp_65 said:
I don't know how to check that but this HD2 used by a previous ower having Tmobile. Still having the same problem. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
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Unless you have the Telstra HD2 (there will be a T in an oval on the back bottom cover), you won't get 3G on ATT. The Telstra model is the only one with the ATT 3G band (the 850mhz UMTS band).
You will ALSO need to have 850mhz ATT coverage in the areas where you live and travel to get 3G on that model.
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Hi!
I was wondering if there is a way to change that? Installing a new ROM, a software or something!! I bought the TMo HD2 and brought it to South America. Here we use the 850 MHz frequency for 3G, and I just found out the HD2 works with 3G networks in the 1700 and 2100 MHz frequencies =( Is there a way I can change that ???
technillion said:
Unless you have the Telstra HD2 (there will be a T in an oval on the back bottom cover), you won't get 3G on ATT. The Telstra model is the only one with the ATT 3G band (the 850mhz UMTS band).
You will ALSO need to have 850mhz ATT coverage in the areas where you live and travel to get 3G on that model.
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I checked and there is no T on my phone or cover. But I have cyanogen Mod 6, I was wondering if anyone else has this problem.
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So I got my hands on one of the fancy new Prada 3.0's
It's effing gorgeous. I can't get it on T-Mobile 3/4g though- seems to be stuck on edge. The APN settings are correct, but no dice.
Any ideas guys?
The phone has 1900 and 2100... it should work on HSPA, correct?
johnrbell said:
So I got my hands on one of the fancy new Prada 3.0's
It's effing gorgeous. I can't get it on T-Mobile 3/4g though- seems to be stuck on edge. The APN settings are correct, but no dice.
Any ideas guys?
The phone has 1900 and 2100... it should work on HSPA, correct?
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maybe because of your provider or your rom. are you rooted ?
No rom. No root. Completely stock. If I pick cdma, loose service. T-Mobile UK phone, unlocked, Tmo us sim card
T-Mobile 4g frequencies are split between 1700/2100. 1700 uplink and 2100 down... meaning u need both to work. 2100 is 3g in Europe and is widely used but not in the US
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Thanks for that info.
Sent from my Note on T-Mo 4G.
I have the unlocked version sitting on my desk right now.
The only difference seems to be that the radios are not the same?
But I've been reading that the radio might be flashable so it can accept Tmobile frequencies.
One question though, can ROMs from the unlocked version be used on the Tmobile version? Thanks
teatime0315 said:
I have the unlocked version sitting on my desk right now.
The only difference seems to be that the radios are not the same?
But I've been reading that the radio might be flashable so it can accept Tmobile frequencies.
One question though, can ROMs from the unlocked version be used on the Tmobile version? Thanks
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From what I have read, the T-Mobile H1 can flash any ROM.
The radio flashing is an open question. So far attempts to get the AWS working on the dev / unlocked models have not worked. HTC says they have different radio hardware, but at this point it is anyone's guess if we will ever get AWS working on dev.
If you use the unlocked / dev on TMO, you will get 21 Mb on the 1900 refarmed band, and eventually LTE if you live in an area that has it. Right now there are maybe three areas with LTE.
If you got the 32 Gb unlocked, in my opinion it has no advantage over the T-Mobile model. The Dev edition has 64 gb of storage.
stevedebi said:
From what I have read, the T-Mobile H1 can flash any ROM.
The radio flashing is an open question. So far attempts to get the AWS working on the dev / unlocked models have not worked. HTC says they have different radio hardware, but at this point it is anyone's guess if we will ever get AWS working on dev.
If you use the unlocked / dev on TMO, you will get 21 Mb on the 1900 refarmed band, and eventually LTE if you live in an area that has it. Right now there are maybe three areas with LTE.
If you got the 32 Gb unlocked, in my opinion it has no advantage over the T-Mobile model. The Dev edition has 64 gb of storage.
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The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
zaos said:
The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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I don't think anyone has tried that yet. I suspect AWS wouldn't work without some modification because the ROM would not support AWS. But I don't think it would hurt anything either.
zaos said:
The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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Yes, flashing ROMs doesn't affect frequency compatibility. All GSM One variants have the same hardware and ROMs/kernels are cross-compatible (international HSPA-only, and EMEA/AT&T/T-moblie LTE). ROMs don't include radio software, and so far at least, radio software hasn't affected available frequency bands.
teiglin said:
Yes, flashing ROMs doesn't affect frequency compatibility. All GSM One variants have the same hardware and ROMs/kernels are cross-compatible (international HSPA-only, and EMEA/AT&T/T-moblie LTE). ROMs don't include radio software, and so far at least, radio software hasn't affected available frequency bands.
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If flashing ROMs (not radios) to/from intl, US, EMEA models don't affect supported bands, I don't see why it would affect tmobile -> unlocked. Advantages would be no tmobile bloat, no hacks to please the tmobile overloads, etc.
zaos said:
If flashing ROMs (not radios) to/from intl, US, EMEA models don't affect supported bands, I don't see why it would affect tmobile -> unlocked. Advantages would be no tmobile bloat, no hacks to please the tmobile overloads, etc.
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It sounds like you're disagreeing with me or something, but yes, flashing an international ROM on tmo One is great because it gets rid of bloat, can edit APNs to enable tethering, and always based on latest firmware rather than waiting for tmo to push an update. Only downside I know of is no wifi calling. I'm running TrickDroid on mine and it works great.
teiglin said:
It sounds like you're disagreeing with me or something, but yes, flashing an international ROM on tmo One is great because it gets rid of bloat, can edit APNs to enable tethering, and always based on latest firmware rather than waiting for tmo to push an update. Only downside I know of is no wifi calling. I'm running TrickDroid on mine and it works great.
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Sorry, that was more directed at stevedebi's comment. Wifi calling can be replaced with SIP calling so that should be fine.
Warranty problems?
One potential issue with getting the T-Mobile version could have to do with the warranty. U.S. carriers seem squeamish about people modding their phones and threaten to void the warranty for unlocking bootloaders, rooting, etc. That said, I don't have specific info at hand that HTC unlocked phones are much more lenient but seems worth looking into.
zaos said:
Sorry, that was more directed at stevedebi's comment. Wifi calling can be replaced with SIP calling so that should be fine.
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Well, most of the new T-Mobile plans come with unlimited hotspot and WiFi calling. I'm not planning to unlock mine. My One is performing fine on the stock ROM, and TMO will update the software (eventually).
As noted above, I'm not sure that T-Mobile looks kindly on having TAMPERED show up on a phone. They might well deny a warranty claim.
For me get the T-Mobile HTC one I had the 64gb edition got tired of the stupid refarm 1900mhz frequency my icon was switching from H to 3G. Now with my original T-Mobile HTC one I get steady 4g icon and good speeds
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stevedebi said:
Well, most of the new T-Mobile plans come with unlimited hotspot and WiFi calling. I'm not planning to unlock mine. My One is performing fine on the stock ROM, and TMO will update the software (eventually).
As noted above, I'm not sure that T-Mobile looks kindly on having TAMPERED show up on a phone. They might well deny a warranty claim.
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Same here mine is stock Rom with no root or unlocked bootloader only have about 5 T-Mobile apps that don't worry me.
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ahernandez4110 said:
For me get the T-Mobile HTC one I had the 64gb edition got tired of the stupid refarm 1900mhz frequency my icon was switching from H to 3G. Now with my original T-Mobile HTC one I get steady 4g icon and good speeds
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Switching from H to 3G is just what the radio does; it's how the interface is supposed to work. The T-Mobile version works exactly the same way--and you can see this if you flash an international ROM on your tmo One--but tmo assumes Americans are idiots who a. don't know what HSPA+ is, and b. get confused if the radio idles at "3G" when they expect to have "4G" coverage. So stock tmo ROM just shows 4G all the time, but it is just themed connection icons really. Seems like they're right to do this, which is a bit sad.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you would be getting the same speeds with the dev edition, since even in refarmed areas, you could well get better UMTS coverage over AWS than PCS.
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Switching from H to 3G is just what the radio does; it's how the interface is supposed to work. The T-Mobile version works exactly the same way--and you can see this if you flash an international ROM on your tmo One--but tmo assumes Americans are idiots who a. don't know what HSPA+ is, and b. get confused if the radio idles at "3G" when they expect to have "4G" coverage. So stock tmo ROM just shows 4G all the time, but it is just themed connection icons really. Seems like they're right to do this, which is a bit sad.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you would be getting the same speeds with the dev edition, since even in refarmed areas, you could well get better UMTS coverage over AWS than PCS.
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Not to mention that in many cases you get EDGE on 1900 even in refarmed markets.
yeah I was thinking of getting the DE because its 64gb but then I realize that with wifi everywhere, I can just upload pictures or videos to you box account, then delete them to make room, and keep installing apps I want and delete those you dont.
After dealing with 16gb in a Gnexus, you learn how to manage to space
teiglin said:
Switching from H to 3G is just what the radio does; it's how the interface is supposed to work. The T-Mobile version works exactly the same way--and you can see this if you flash an international ROM on your tmo One--but tmo assumes Americans are idiots who a. don't know what HSPA+ is, and b. get confused if the radio idles at "3G" when they expect to have "4G" coverage. So stock tmo ROM just shows 4G all the time, but it is just themed connection icons really. Seems like they're right to do this, which is a bit sad.
Of course, that doesn't mean that you would be getting the same speeds with the dev edition, since even in refarmed areas, you could well get better UMTS coverage over AWS than PCS.
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You are right if you go to phone settings-about- network you could see UMTS and HSPS+ it swicthes between UMTS 3g and 4g HSPS+ and my 4g icon stays the same, this also happen to my old HTC one 64gb developer edition but it never showed the 4g icon like T-Mobile HTC one all it showed was 3g and H icons this happens in a 1900mhz refarm area. Look at T-Mobile HTC One as example thank god it has 1700mhz built-in that's why I got ridoff my developer Edition
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zaos said:
The tmobile version flashed to the unlocked ROM should retain AWS on HSPA+, correct? That's the route I will probably be taking. The additional LTE bands are inconsequential for me - mainly south america and Philippines.
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yes flashing the TMO version on an unlocked rom will allow you to retain the AWS bands tmobile uses for 3g/HSDPA/HSPAP(HSDPA+)
i bought the TMO HTC one and am now using ordroid 4.2.0 on se7en kernel and i have AWS signal. and not just refarmed signal also umts signal as well.
Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
daniel4653 said:
Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
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Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
Phillyrider807 said:
Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Tried that too. Still getting hspa+. Downloaded the speedtest app and speed never goes over 1mbps. I pop my sim in my moms phone and gets over 18mbps. I don't get it.,
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
Just asking, the phone is on stock LG Android, right?
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csaborio said:
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
daniel4653 said:
ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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Yeah I know, but I was trying to explain the reason about why I was not sure if band 4 was available to unlock.
I live in Costa Rica but I bought an Lg G3 Verizon phone from eBay that happens to work in here as well, the band 3 is the one my carrier uses, so I was only interested in unlock that one.
I took an screenshot of the available bands to unlock by following the link I posted.
P.S: sorry if it wasn't clear, English is not my native language ?
I have a Verizon LG G3 on Cricket Wireless (which is owned and operated by AT&T) and I get LTE on mine everywhere I go. The reason is because I have the 10b modem installed. ANY modem after 12b disables LTE on other networks except for Verizon. You need to totally restore your phone to stock (including 10b radio). There is a thread here on XDA somewhere that tells you step by step how to restore your G3 to stock and 10b radio.
Rooting and installing a custom recovery, then installing 10b modem will not work at this point. I tried that. It WOULD NOT let me use 10b radio until I completely returned to stock. Then of course I rooted and installed custom recovery.
I also have to use Cyanogenmod or another AOSP ROM because stock roms have the newer radios and disable my LTE.
Hope this helps!