Hello all,
I'd like to start by saying i am fairly new to the rooting/flashing scene and have really been researching everything diligently. I have searched the forums a ton and have found a lot of info that i wanted to run by you all and hopefully get a better understanding and better options. I've been wanting to simply root my Sprint Note 3 to get a feel for things before getting into flashing ROM's and recoveries. Here is what i have read so far (please correct me if i'm wrong)
1 - The most recent update by Designgears for the Root de la vega states that MJ4 can not be rooted without tripping knox. This was in october and currently it is almost the end of december. Is there a knox safe method of rooting with MJ4 at the time of writing this?
2 - CF auto root definitely trips knox
3 - Kingoroot supposedly doesn't trip knox even on MJ4, but i haven't found anything specific by the XDA devs vouching for kingoroot again since the controversy. Has kingoroot fixed the problems everyone was contesting?
4 - I'm a little confused as to the different firmwares like MI5, MJ4, MJ7 and so on. Are these for different carriers or just updates to the firmwares of the same carrier in some chronological order?
5 - The bootloaders are in the firmware itself. Is that a correct understanding?
Thank you all for your help and responses and if i've missed something i appreciate your patience in correcting me.
faz4ever said:
Hello all,
I'd like to start by saying i am fairly new to the rooting/flashing scene and have really been researching everything diligently. I have searched the forums a ton and have found a lot of info that i wanted to run by you all and hopefully get a better understanding and better options. I've been wanting to simply root my Sprint Note 3 to get a feel for things before getting into flashing ROM's and recoveries. Here is what i have read so far (please correct me if i'm wrong)
1 - The most recent update by Designgears for the Root de la vega states that MJ4 can not be rooted without tripping knox. This was in october and currently it is almost the end of december. Is there a knox safe method of rooting with MJ4 at the time of writing this?
2 - CF auto root definitely trips knox
3 - Kingoroot supposedly doesn't trip knox even on MJ4, but i haven't found anything specific by the XDA devs vouching for kingoroot again since the controversy. Has kingoroot fixed the problems everyone was contesting?
4 - I'm a little confused as to the different firmwares like MI5, MJ4, MJ7 and so on. Are these for different carriers or just updates to the firmwares of the same carrier in some chronological order?
5 - The bootloaders are in the firmware itself. Is that a correct understanding?
Thank you all for your help and responses and if i've missed something i appreciate your patience in correcting me.
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Any input is appreciated
faz4ever said:
Any input is appreciated
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So far i dnt think there is a method for safe root on mj4
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69671105/temp/New folder (2)/dan/Gn3 Root.zip
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69671105/temp/New%20folder%20%282%29/dan/Gn3%20Root.zip
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This is CF auto root. From what i've read this will trip the KNOX counter. Is this not correct?
I used kingo root and everything had been fine with me
Kingo root for me as well..no issues at all
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patrick_1 said:
Kingo root for me as well..no issues at all
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Lukaslukasm said:
I used kingo root and everything had been fine with me
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Did you guys use kingo after the whole sending phone info to China was resolved?
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Lukaslukasm said:
I used kingo root and everything had been fine with me
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patrick_1 said:
Kingo root for me as well..no issues at all
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But did you guys trip Knox or is it still Knox 0x0?
Edit: I tried Kingo on MJ4 and it rooted the phone just fine without tripping Knox~! Yay~!!
Cool... I'm gonna take the plunge.. Thanks!
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I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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dsmendiola said:
I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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Remove safestrap using the directions in the Safestrap thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441)
Then follow the "Update to VRUEMJ7 and Keep Root" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408)
dsmendiola said:
I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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Don't do it.
Get something that you can flash based on the newer firmware.
If you have safestrap and you like the ability, don't update to MJ7.
k1mu said:
Remove safestrap using the directions in the Safestrap thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441)
Then follow the "Update to VRUEMJ7 and Keep Root" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408)
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Thank you! Much appreciated.
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tech_head said:
Don't do it.
Get something that you can flash based on the newer firmware.
If you have safestrap and you like the ability, don't update to MJ7.
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I did enjoy the ability, but then I started messing with xposed framework and noticed those tweaks are what I cared for. Touchwiz doesn't bother me and with the touchwiz tweaks it makes it similar to custom rom.
I do however will only go to mj7 if there is root method, which I've read there is..
Thanks for your input.
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Yea, but the root is an installer from China......
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tech_head said:
Yea, but the root is an installer from China......
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No, using that method to retain root through the OTA does not use Vroot. I used that method successfully and am on mj7 and have root.
No Chinese stuff
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
No, using that method to retain root through the OTA does not use Vroot. I used that method successfully and am on mj7 and have root.
No Chinese stuff
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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You can keep root through the upgrade.
What happens if you need to flash your device??????
THen you need vRoot.
I'm just saying, I won't move to a new OTA unless there is a reliable root method.
With my luck something goes south and I need to re-root after a flash.
tech_head said:
You can keep root through the upgrade.
What happens if you need to flash your device??????
THen you need vRoot.
I'm just saying, I won't move to a new OTA unless there is a reliable root method.
With my luck something goes south and I need to re-root after a flash.
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Yes if you were on one of the previous basebands you could take the mj7 OTA and keep root. Like shown here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
And yea.. As soon as you're on mj7 you're stuck there, no going back. If you had to flash mj7 for some reason after all that, then you would be left with the choice of using those Chinese root methods. But that guide that was already mentioned above by another poster worked prefect for me.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this or not but I came across this method through Google. It worked for my Verizon Note 2 with the OTA 4.3 update. I also used Foxfi until the update. With Titanium Backup, I froze the KNOX security and Foxfi works again without asking to contact VZW. Thanks to the Devs who are responsible for this method. I hope it is ok that I shared the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Works
loonz29 said:
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this or not but I came across this method through Google. It worked for my Verizon Note 2 with the OTA 4.3 update. I also used Foxfi until the update. With Titanium Backup, I froze the KNOX security and Foxfi works again without asking to contact VZW. Thanks to the Devs who are responsible for this method. I hope it is ok that I shared the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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I had my phone unrooted and on 4.3, ran the install.bat and it's rooted!
I can confirm as well. Thank you!
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Unlocked too?..I heard root is possible, but bootloader unlock is not.
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Don't know about unlocking the bootloader. I haven't found anything for that yet.
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This method also worked for me, however I had to restore back to stock 4.3 with odin first.
Thanks!
Congrats! You successfully perma locked your bootloader by taking the 4.3 OTA.
droidstyle said:
Congrats! You successfully perma locked your bootloader by taking the 4.3 OTA.
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For those of us who don't care about the bootloader, your statement is moot.
vortmax said:
For those of us who don't care about the bootloader, your statement is moot.
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This is the case for me. I just needed root for Titanium backup primarily.
At least people will know there is a way to root it. Hopefully one of the devs will figure out how to unlock the new boot loader.
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Do I need to downgrade verizon note 2 to 4.1.1 for carrir unlock?
b1ackplague said:
I had my phone unrooted and on 4.3, ran the install.bat and it's rooted!
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Do I need to downgrade verizon note 2 to 4.1.1 for carrier unlock?
Also I have a metro pcs samsung s4 that I need to carrier unlock do u have any idea's?
wirelessjunkies said:
Do I need to downgrade verizon note 2 to 4.1.1 for carrier unlock?
Also I have a metro pcs samsung s4 that I need to carrier unlock do u have any idea's?
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I don't think that downgrading is possible without tripping the KNOX security counter. As far as the s4, this root version should root the phone, and I believe that I have read somewhere about a safestrap app thst allows you to flash roms and such.
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I have had no success with this method as yet. I run the script, and it seems to run fine, then after it's rebooted, when it says to run SuperSU, and let it update if it asks, the update always fails. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Found a way around it?
wirelessjunkies said:
Do I need to downgrade verizon note 2 to 4.1.1 for carrier unlock?
Also I have a metro pcs samsung s4 that I need to carrier unlock do u have any idea's?
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This phone is global unlocked hence you don't need to downgrade to 4.1.1....let me know the purpose so that v can suggest
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Awesomesauce!!
Just got it to work. thanks !!
Darmelc said:
Just got it to work. thanks !!
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Did you have to downgrade it to make it work?
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cpomike13 said:
Did you have to downgrade it to make it work?
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I did not have to downgrade to make it work.
Sonofabitch it worked...I bought my Note 2 cash, JUST after it had received the 4.3 update (sigh) I understand about the no bootloader thing, but being able to use Titanium Backup again is awesome
I need kelp rooting my galaxy mega I tried the one click program kingo but I fail and says need root and I'm scared to brick this phone but need help rooting any help would be appreciated!
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jazz995756 said:
I need kelp rooting my galaxy mega I tried the one click program kingo but I fail and says need root and I'm scared to brick this phone but need help rooting any help would be appreciated!
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as far as I know, you can't root on NA7 just yet. I had to revert to MK1 and root with kingo. but beware the update included knox into the bootloader so you may void warranty.
rbalenbin said:
as far as I know, you can't root on NA7 just yet. I had to revert to MK1 and root with kingo. but beware the update included knox into the bootloader so you may void warranty.
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I rooted with NA7 but thanks anyway
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jazz995756 said:
I rooted with NA7 but thanks anyway
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Yeah I just saw that you could push recovery with odin and install super user too earlier today. Not much development for l600 think im going to buy a note 3 tomorrow.
rbalenbin said:
Yeah I just saw that you could push recovery with odin and install super user too earlier today. Not much development for l600 think im going to buy a note 3 tomorrow.
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Yea I got rid of mine after a couple days very poor development
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Just FYI, the Note 3 only has single-band LTE, where the Mega is tri-band LTE. Sprint's new Spark network uses tri-band LTE to maximize speed, and the Note 3 doesn't have the right radio.
I use the cf autoroot. it worked like charm.
Now, this means the bootloader is unlocked right?
should i upgrade my firmware to the newest? from NCD to NCH, or should i just wait. advice?
gibrannz said:
I use the cf autoroot. it worked like charm.
Now, this means the bootloader is unlocked right?
should i upgrade my firmware to the newest? from NCD to NCH, or should i just wait. advice?
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You can upgrade to NCH - Chainfire used that firware to provide the root for our device, so you should be able to root again IF you do lose root.
idtheftvictim said:
You can upgrade to NCH - Chainfire used that firware to provide the root for our device, so you should be able to root again IF you do lose root.
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thank you. i already downloaded the NCH firmware from kies. now im just waiting to see if anybody gives me a good reason not to do it proceed, lol.
loving this new phone.
Wait!
Chainfire works for this?
I thought it wouldn't because the bootloader was locked.
I assume that this triggers Knox right?
I really don't care, but would be nice to know.
And with root I can tether for free again then.
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Mine has nch out of the box.
Hopefully that won't cause problems.
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TheArtiszan said:
Wait!
Chainfire works for this?
I thought it wouldn't because the bootloader was locked.
I assume that this triggers Knox right?
I really don't care, but would be nice to know.
And with root I can tether for free again then.
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Mine has nch out of the box.
Hopefully that won't cause problems.
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Yes, Chainfire released a root for the T-Mobile S5 - Chainfire Auto Root
Some people have already reported that it worked, so that means our bootloader is NOT locked...now I can get the phone without worries!
And Yes - This will trip Knox
The root is Based on NCH, so it will work on your phone.
TheArtiszan said:
Wait!
Chainfire works for this?
I thought it wouldn't because the bootloader was locked.
I assume that this triggers Knox right?
I really don't care, but would be nice to know.
And with root I can tether for free again then.
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Mine has nch out of the box.
Hopefully that won't cause problems.
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Yes, it worked for my. I was kind of worried because I didn't want to brick my phone, but I am now rooted and everything is just fine.
It does trigger knox
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This is the download mode screen I got after rooting. I don't really care about knox or warranty
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idtheftvictim said:
Some people have already reported that it worked, so that means our bootloader is NOT locked...now I can get the phone without worries!
And Yes - This will trip Knox
The root is Based on NCH, so it will work on your phone.
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Nope its locked. Root is obtainable but roms is is a whole different story. Be on the look out for a safestrap method tho
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
Nope its locked. Root is obtainable but roms is is a whole different story. Be on the look out for a safestrap method tho
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According to Chainfire, if we were able to root using CF-Auto-root, then the bootloader is NOT locked. How do you figure it is locked if this method of root worked?
idtheftvictim said:
According to Chainfire, if we were able to root using CF-Auto-root, then the bootloader is NOT locked. How do you figure it is locked if this method of root worked?
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the bootloader is unlocked after the cf-auto-root
This proves T-Mobile S5 is dev-friendly.
Root away if you don't care Knox.
Does tripping Knox meaning JUMP warranty is Void?
savoritz said:
you can still root using cf-auto-root, anything past i.e. custom roms/kernels custom boot logos and your sol. wait for safestrap method imo
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What compels you to post when you have no clue what you are talking about. To use cfautoroot method to root a phone it must have a unlocked bootloader. Other root methods is different but for cf it is a must...but thanks for your useless definitive know nothing Sol post
How to create a system dump:
adb shell
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dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p23 of=/storage/extSdCard/system.img
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
Nope its locked. Root is obtainable but roms is is a whole different story. Be on the look out for a safestrap method tho
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PLEASE do not make statements like this that will only confuse everyone trying to find ways to root and get recovery on their phone. You are completely mistaken. Chainfire himself said that if CF AUTO ROOT Can be flashed then the bootloader IS UNLOCKED - and trust me, he knows much more about this than you or I do)
PLUS - RECOVERY is now possible by flashing Phils Custom CWM - (from the International Thread) There is a file posted that specifically for our phone - it works beautifully on the TMO S5 - you can download it here: http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_A...d_Edition/klte It is a Unified version for TMO - SPRINT and VERIZON (Dev Edition) S5's. (SPecial thanks to Phil3759 and Chainfire for his CF AUto ROot)
Looks as if I was wrong. Apparently the bootloader is unlocked.
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caodangra said:
Does tripping Knox meaning JUMP warranty is Void?
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I talked to a T-Mobile employee and he said they only check that the serial matches, that it turns on, and that it doesn't have water damage or a cracked screen. So pretty much tripping Knox means nothing in terms of the JUMP plan
JUMPing to the S5 tomorrow, can't wait!
YoungAceAtlanta said:
Nope its locked. Root is obtainable but roms is is a whole different story. Be on the look out for a safestrap method tho
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Be careful for what you said.
The situation is exactly same as Note 3 (only Sprint and T-Mobile versions have unlocked bootloader).
CF Auto root requires unlocked bootloader. That's why you never seen CF for ATT and VZW (except dev version) versions.
The procedure is to flash "customized" recovery in order to install SU, so unlocked bootloader is required.
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Looks as if I was wrong. Apparently the bootloader is unlocked.
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Welcome to the party. Most of us have already used CFautoroot.
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jwcurry83 said:
I talked to a T-Mobile employee and he said they only check that the serial matches, that it turns on, and that it doesn't have water damage or a cracked screen. So pretty much tripping Knox means nothing in terms of the JUMP plan
JUMPing to the S5 tomorrow, can't wait!
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Glad to hear, thank you. Now I feel as ease to root. :good:
I read a couple diff root methods on google do any of them work
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Towelroot
TowelRoot should work with 4.4
But will it trip Knox that's where its up in the air
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I searched around and can't find anything either. Friend of mine got replacement now he's screwed.
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towelroot
xRoach said:
TowelRoot should work with 4.4
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No...towelroot will NOT work for sch-i605 at all. Device is not supported. There is no root method that i am aware of at this point for us. I check in with xda everyday just hopping.:crying:
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As of now guys we all are stuck with a locked and stock 4.4 sch-i605. When or if they find a method i dont know if knox would be a huge deal at that point. I rooted my wifes sch-i747 (att s3) and supersu disabled knox no problem. Seems that the devs may have moved on to other projects. Lets just hope SOMEONE gets around to our device. --waiting patiently--:angel:
Considering that Knox is the premier security program to be included on every Android L phone not just Samsung, I doubt the amount of time needed to circumvent is not worth the effort on the 605. Don't hold your breathe that we will ever get root.
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the only thing you can do (and idk if everyone can do it) is to odin flash back to 4.3 (MJ9) and then root from there.
unfortunately that doesnt include a bootloader unlock. but then you can safestrap and install /any/ touchwiz rom
Znomon said:
the only thing you can do (and idk if everyone can do it) is to odin flash back to 4.3 (MJ9) and then root from there.
unfortunately that doesnt include a bootloader unlock. but then you can safestrap and install /any/ touchwiz rom
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Can you confirm if you've actually been able to successfully do this? If you have, then this would be great news for those who want root, but took the OTA up to 4.4.2.
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mattnmag said:
Can you confirm if you've actually been able to successfully do this? If you have, then this would be great news for those who want root, but took the OTA up to 4.4.2.
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Yes, I did this myself on my phone before I switched out the motherboards.
From ND7, you can flash back to MJ9, and then you can root, and then use safestrap to install certain specific ROMs
I will edit this post if i find a link to a tutorial
Damn I downgraded from ND3, not ND7, my apologies.
Here is the Link anyway http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752360
I don't have a way to test if there is a way to downgrade.
Znomon said:
Yes, I did this myself on my phone before I switched out the motherboards.
From ND7, you can flash back to MJ9, and then you can root, and then use safestrap to install certain specific ROMs
I will edit this post if i find a link to a tutorial
Damn I downgraded from ND3, not ND7, my apologies.
Here is the Link anyway http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752360
I don't have a way to test if there is a way to downgrade.
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Cool. Thanks for the confirmation. I knew you could go from ND3 back to MJ9, but I had read somewhere else where someone speculated that you couldn't revert back to MJ9 from ND7 due to the locked bootloader issue... I'm still on 4.1.2 with unlocked bootloader, so I can't test it either.