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Hello, forumers.
I want to ask whether there is an additional warranty for the phone provided by Samsung on top of the one provided by the actual seller. I want to know whether I can rely on that one in the case that the original seller's waranty is made void or I am not able to rely on it.
This is because I am buying the phone new but from ebay.
If you are worried about the warranty, then I would recommend buying it from the high street, or a network, certainly not via Ebay.
Is the ebay seller a business, or individual? There are different rules for each. But I wouldn't trust ebay/paypal in either case, too much potential for trouble.
24 months warranty: http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/warranty/warrantyInformation.do?page=POLICY.WARRANTY
I haven't had experience of Samsung, but HTC and SE are both fine at honouring warranties when I've bought stuff from E-bay, so I guess samsung will be too.
Hopefully you're correct. But if they implement the same procedures as they do for their 'out of service area' HDDs, then they won't touch it with a barge pole. You need to know the source of the phone and how reliable/respectable the ebay seller is.
Maybe I should try contacting Samsung then. The guy says the phone hasn't been opened (he bought 2 units) and purchased from expansys anyway so I guess the warranty is directly with Samsung. Plus I wonder what Expansys would ask for in the event I have to return the phone.
SOG act UK responsibility lies with the seller .
However Samsung do honour genuine warranty cases that is you as purchaser with a receipt etc .
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Spoke to Samsung on the phone. They said I have to have an initial proof of purchase i.e. the invoice of the actual buyer. Doesn't sound too bad.
so i guess this confirms they really wont be issuing any sort of fix or solution?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Asus-UK-Transformer-Prime-Refund-New-Model-TF700,14516.html
Misleading title is misleading. They're just saying if you don't like it, return it to the shop you purchased it, something you can do by Law. The only thing Asus are offering is an extension to the warranty.
Just curious... did you even read the article?
Asus is not offering refund, they are recommending people who are not happy with WiFi/GPS performance to return them to retailers.
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Just curious... did you even read the article?
Asus is not offering refund, they are recommending people who are not happy with WiFi/GPS performance to return them to retailers.
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Lmao I was thinking same thing OP fails.
Has anyone rang asus to take the extended warranty? I have and they dont know anything about it!
What about us in the United States? Do we get an extended warranty? It feels like, other than in Taiwan, the US was doing a bunch of beta testing on this thing.
That article basically says that the Wifi Issues will be fixed for the UK Version, but what about versions that have already been released?
How exactly is it misleading?
the company is now offering another alternative: A full refund. The company today said that extensive checks have confirmed that no units with WiFi issues have been supplied to customers in the UK, it is willing to refund customers that are still unhappy with their device.
"After extensive checks we can confirm that no units have been supplied to the UK with a known WiFi issue. Any customers experiencing WiFi issues specifically are advised to contact our support hotline on 0870 1208 340," Asus UK said. "Any customers who have purchased a Transformer Prime TF201 and are dissatisfied with the performance of the GPS module are advised to return the unit to their point of purchase for a full refund as per standard consumer rights that apply in the UK."
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The article specifically says ASUS is offering a full refund.
The article says ASUS is asking customers who are dissatisfied, to take it back to their place of purchase.
Who says they haven't reached out to the retailers and instructed to offer full refunds, outside of the store policy?
And who the hell knows what "consumer rights as they apply in the UK" means?
I wish people would stop being so quick to judge posters. The link i posted may or may not be accurate, but no need to flame. Im not here trying to stir up ****, im trying to share info i came across.
Thank you.
PS, this article proves to me, more than anything, that ASUS has no intention of offering any solution to the weak wifi ... which pisses me off because otherwise i am in love with my tablet.
and yes, for a while i was hopeful that they would make some statement about it, offering some solution or cheap fix.
I dont want a refund, or a credit, money is not the issue .. i just want this tablet to have better wifi signal, that is all
So I just checked if there were any firmware updates available and there was one! Does anyone know what it does? Obviously I'm hoping it'll fix the rebooting issue but I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten it yet.
Edit: Whoops, I posted this to the wrong thread. I'd delete this post but I'm not sure if I'm able to.
rsarno said:
How exactly is it misleading?
The article specifically says ASUS is offering a full refund.
The article says ASUS is asking customers who are dissatisfied, to take it back to their place of purchase.
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And who the hell knows what "consumer rights as they apply in the UK" means?
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In the Uk we have a number of consumer protections.
One is the distance selling regs which give peeps who buy a new Product (excepting opened software, mucic media or things like pants (underwear for our friends over the pond) earings etc where there is a hygiene element) a minimum of 7 days to look at a product and try it out (there are expectations to keep the original packaging and to look after the goods) and decide to keep it or return it.
Another consumer protection is the Consumer Protection act which protects all purchasers of goods and this protects consumers by stating that goods should be fit for purpose, this protection should last (a very subjective) for a reasonable life of the item and if a fault is found in the first six months the consumer should have the right for that item to be treated as if the fault was present at the point of sale. (it is not always easy to force this issue but there are remedies) so for example a Television that dies after 18 months could fall under this legislation as it would be reasonable for a TV to last longer than 18 months.
Another area in which we might be different is that in The UK the contract is between the seller and the purchaser, not between the manufacturer and the end user, so that Asus increasing the length of their warranty is over and above the responsibilities of the seller.
in the UK the grey TFP is as rare as rocking horse sh*t and there are very few outlets that have been able to distribute the TFP with the silver version is as common as a dodo! Asus has in all likelihood been in contact with the company who is distributing the TFP over here and arrangements have been made for the return of faulty TFP's to be made simple.
On another level I do not mind peeps griping about the goods but I get really pee'd of with those who take over the official asus rep started threads in which Asus are looking for patterns of the faults to help them narrow down the problems to work on fixes to vent their spleen: If i was an Asus rep I would be disheartened by this and feel that (I am sure they are working their nuts off) their efforts are not being appreciated and this also has an effect on me and other users; as it makes focussing on those issues all the harder because the likes of Gary are having to wade through a lot of irrelevant posts to get to the meat of the problem, and also some of the posts have been pretty insulting and personal to the point that I have reported a couple. I think Asus are being much more responsive than Apple was over the Iphone having difficulties making calls)
(Sorry for the rant in the previous paragraph but having read the three threads earlier it just had to come out and I was going to post similar on those threads but managed to check myself. It was not pointed at yourself or any individual in particular )
Hope the info on some of our consumer legislation was useful.
As indicated many countries outside the US have customer protection programs and this drives corporate decisions for those countries to make sure customers feel like a company that is getting bad press is trying to resolve the issues. Based on what we are seeing in the last week ASUS is stepping up to the plate in many ways to resolve their problems with the Prime.
I don't understand how Asus can completely VOID our warranties for unlocking our devices. I can see how the warranty could be VOID as far as software issues but not hardware. The way I look at it is like a car warranty. If you modify your car with an aftermarket exhaust, it is illegal for them to VOID your warranty. However, if you tear the engine apart and add cams, pistons, etc. your warranty is legally and completely VOID. I think it should be illegal for them to VOID our warranty against a screen going out or an antenna going bad or something similar. It is complete and utter B.S. If my hardware fails, I promise you, they will get it back one way or another and I will get another Prime without paying for it. If software screws up, that's my fault and I'll deal with it. Also, if they are going to VOID our warranty, we should at least have FULL ACCESS to NVFlash. Not this half-assed bull****!
Gary Key: Please do what you can with this because I believe that I have some VERY valid points and I am sure that many others will agree with me here on this. Anything would be greatly appreciated. Even some insight from yourself that isn't company related.
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I do agree, I think its not correct to void warranty completely especially with known wifi problems and maybe a possible fix on the way.
However leaving certain parts out of the warranty which could be damaged by functions added via other ROMs makes sense, i.e. CPU due to overclocking.
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Why would you guys even take a chance knowing all the problems going on with the Prime no one to blame but yourselves if you get screwed out of a warranty.
This is the sole reason I have yet to buy one yet. Was at the store day contemplating whether or not today...I will not buy and keep it stock...but out of fear of broken pixels on the screen or other hardware issues that have popped up I can't bring myself to purchase until this is cleared up. But if it ever is, without question I will be purchasing one that day.
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They can do whatever they want. You agreed to the terms.
You hit the nail on the head. The reason is when you use a custom rom you could potentially be stressing the hardware. (Overclocking etc..) Asus doesn't want to be out money to have to fix peoples primes who unlock bootloader and install custom roms.
Why is this so difficult? If you AGREE that you warranty is completely void and unlock the bootloader, then how can you possibly complain about it?
Legally, they can't. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prohibits issuers of warranties (in the U.S.) from excluding warranty coverage from modifications made by customers unless it can be proven the modifications caused the issue/problem. So if your screen dies, unless Asus can prove it was due to you unlocking the bootloader, they can't deny coverage. Of course if they do it'll be you vs. a multi-billion dollar corporation but if you took it to the mat you'd win.
Here's a wiki of the act...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
The aftermarket auto parts industry relies heavily on Magnuson-Moss because if it didn't exist auto manufacturers would drive them out of business by unilaterally voiding people's warranties. This article focuses on the auto industry but the same applies to other product categories also. I highlighted the relevant parts.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
The relevant legislation here, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975, protects consumers from being wrongfully denied warranty coverage by new car dealers.
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states, in part, in Title 15, United States Code, Section 2302, subdivision (c):
No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived by the [Federal Trade] Commission if —
(1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function properly only if the article or service so identified is used in connection with the warranted product, and
(2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public interest. The Commission shall identify in the Federal Register, and permit public comment on, all applications for waiver of the prohibition of this subsection, and shall publish in the Federal Register its disposition of any such application, including the reasons therefore.
Under this federal statute, a manufacturer who issues a warranty on your motor vehicle is prohibited from requiring you to use a service or maintenance item, unless such item is provided, free of charge, under your warranty or unless the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) waives this prohibition against the manufacturer.
Further, under the act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not automatically void a vehicle manufacturer's original warranty unless it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure.
Specifically, the rules and regulations adopted by the FTC to govern the interpretation and enforcement of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act are set forth in the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 16 - Commercial Practices, Chapter I - Federal Trade Commission, Subchapter G - Rules, Regulations, Statements and Interpretations under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, Part 700 - Interpretations under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Contained within these rules and regulations is Section 700.10, which states:
No warrantor may condition the continued validity of a warranty on the use of only authorized repair service and/or authorized replacement parts for non-warranty service and maintenance. For example, provisions such as, "This warranty is void if service is performed by anyone other than an authorized 'ABC' dealer and all replacement parts must be genuine 'ABC' parts," and the like, are prohibited where the service or parts are not covered by the warranty. These provisions violate the Act in two ways. First, they violate the section 102(c) ban against tying arrangements. Second, such provisions are deceptive under section 110 of the Act, because a warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a written warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of "unauthorized" articles or service. This does not preclude a warrantor from expressly excluding liability for defects or damage caused by such "unauthorized" articles or service; nor does it preclude the warrantor from denying liability where the warrantor can demonstrate that the defect or damage was so caused.
Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage. If the dealer cannot prove such a claim — or it proffers a questionable explanation — it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission administers the Magnuson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.
That being said, if you choose to modify your car, and suddenly the fancy new electronic control boxes that you added to your car make it run rough, not start when cold, or buck like a bronco, the dealer can and will charge a diagnostic fee to find out what is wrong with your car. If it turns out that your modifications are the cause of the problem, the dealer has every right not only to charge you for the diagnosis and repair, but to also void the portion of the warranty that has been compromised by the use of those aftermarket parts. Likewise, a dealer may refuse to service your car if it is adorned with aftermarket parts to the extent that its technicians cannot reasonably be expected to diagnose what is wrong with your car. As an example, all cars manufactured after 1994 are equipped with OBDII (On Board Diagnostics II) ports that dealers use to read engine diagnostic codes for everything from an engine vacuum leak to a malfunctioning emissions system. If your chosen modification has compromised the dealer service center's ability to scan for these codes (aftermarket ECUs generally do not support OBDII), then there is a strong probability that the dealer service center will
•Deny warranty coverage
•Refuse to service the car
Altering the software can in some cases damage the hardware like overclocking as mentioned in the above post. Id like to see the voided warranty changed to honor hardware fault's that are NON-SOFTWARE related.
I'm a developer and I always unlock my devices in that respect. I know what I'm doing. I bought this device with the knowledge of the bootloader unlocker in mind. The concern I have with my device is that after 2 weeks, the screen may be loosening from it's enclosure.
If that's the case and I decide to return it, ASUS will not honor the warranty if I have unlocked the bootloader. This is absurd. How is modifying the software re unlocking the bootloader in anyway related to a loose screen?
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Altering the software can in some cases damage the hardware like overclocking as mentioned in the above post. Id like to see the voided warranty changed to honor hardware fault's that are NON-SOFTWARE related.
I'm a developer and I always unlock my devices in that respect. I know what I'm doing. I bought this device with the knowledge of the bootloader unlocker in mind. The concern I have with my device is that after 2 weeks, the screen may be loosening from it's enclosure.
If that's the case and I decide to return it, ASUS will not honor the warranty if I have unlocked the bootloader. This is absurd. How is modifying the software re unlocking the bootloader in anyway related to a loose screen?
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It's not. Unfortunately you agreed that it is.
I DID NOT agree to the terms because I did not unlock my boot loader!
The only thing I did was stating my point of view!
The ASUS terms are like if you buy different rims for your car (i.e. for new winter tires) your car manufacturer denies the warranty for the whole car - which is not correct, and at least in Europe not legally possible - thats all I am saying
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If that's the case and I decide to return it, ASUS will not honor the warranty if I have unlocked the bootloader.
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If you send it in and they deny your claim, tell them that under Magnuson-Moss they're obligated to tell you how unlocking the bootloader caused your screen issue. I'm sure the repsonse will be "huh?" Take whatever rejection they give you (get it in writing) and then file a complaint with the FTC here. They do act on complaints they receive especially if there's multiple instances from the same manufacturer.
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
I HAVE NOT unlocked yet either. Also legally I am not a signatory to any contract with ASUS in regard to voiding my warranty. I.e. I have not physically signed a contract with my name and their name in an agreement. The law protects consumers by enforcing warranty treatment on goods and services produced by companies within reasonable cause in Australia.
The point is if you unlock, you agree to their terms. There's no ifs ands or buts about it. They set terms, you have the option to disagree with their terms BEFORE you unlock, and that's it.
If you unlock, that means you agree with your terms and your MM Acts arguments and "it's not fair" arguments mean nothing. It's just what it is.
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The point is if you unlock, you agree to their terms. There's no ifs ands or buts about it. They set terms, you have the option to disagree with their terms BEFORE you unlock, and that's it.
If you unlock, that means you agree with your terms and your MM Acts arguments and "it's not fair" arguments mean nothing. It's just what it is.
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I'm not a lawyer but Asus is asking you to obviate your original warranty by you choosing to modify their device. That to me is the same thing as denying coverage unilaterally which is what Magnuson-Moss is designed to prevent. I don't think they can deny all coverage (while it's a nice benefit for them) which was part of the original warranty the device came with no matter what you agree to. It would be the same thing in the car industry where in order to get your car serviced you were forced to sign away your rights to every modifying your car. That I know is prohibited by Magnuson-Moss as it’s an obvious end-run around the act and has been tested (and it failed) before. If there are any attorneys here it would be interesting to see which trumps which (original warranty/Magnuson-Moss vs. Asus' supplement).
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The point is if you unlock, you agree to their terms. There's no ifs ands or buts about it. They set terms, you have the option to disagree with their terms BEFORE you unlock, and that's it.
If you unlock, that means you agree with your terms and your MM Acts arguments and "it's not fair" arguments mean nothing. It's just what it is.
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BarryH makes a good point with the MM arguement. This would supersede those terms by ASUS. Also you can not be forced to contract without 2 signatures. Pressing an icon after reading some outrageous terms does not equal a contractual agreement.
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Why would you guys even take a chance knowing all the problems going on with the Prime no one to blame but yourselves if you get screwed out of a warranty.
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As in why the Hell did we buy this thing in the first place when we knew about all the issues?
Quite a few of the issues can be resolved by the devs here on XDA. Case in point, one dev has already fixed the screen flicker that Asus can't be arsed to fiddle with.
So now we have to void our warranty on unrelated issues to get software issues fixed by a 3rd party.
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BarryH makes a good point with the MM arguement. This would supersede those terms by ASUS. Also you can not be forced to contract without 2 signatures. Pressing an icon after reading some outrageous terms does not equal a contractual agreement.
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It can. I just signed my taxes to the IRS with nothing but computer buttons that if I falsify could land me in prison.
The MM argument certainly has credence if you were to find a way to modify the bootloader yourself. Then they would have to prove your modification did cause the issue you ate claiming warranty on to deny it.
But by using their tool you agree to terms of having your warranty void. You are not coerced into agreeing to the terms or unlocking your bootloader, it is a choice that is solely yours to make. I don't agree with the approach of voiding the entire warranty either but the way it is being done does clear them of liability.
I can speak with a lawyer about it next week as I'm sure many others can but I think it will be fruitless.
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if you were to find a way to modify the bootloader yourself.
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Is there a way of bypassing the agreement page by downloading and executing the code offline?
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BarryH makes a good point with the MM arguement. This would supersede those terms by ASUS. Also you can not be forced to contract without 2 signatures. Pressing an icon after reading some outrageous terms does not equal a contractual agreement.
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I don't know how to make it clear to you and BarryH. It's different if you, without the aid of ASUS somehow figure out how to unlock the bootloader. Then no, under MM, they cannot deny you service UNLESS they prove that your unlocking of the bootloader caused the problem.
However, the MM act doesn't apply if they provide a warranty, in writing, of what will happen if you use their tool to unlock their bootloader. Its silly to suggest that a company can't modify their warranty if you agree to their terms. If that was the case, throttling simply could not exist.
This tool was delayed because per Gary Keyes himself, they were working on the "legalese"...you really think they're not aware of the MM act? Of course they are. And of course their lawyers pored over the act, tooth and nail. It's a nice pipe dream to think you can say "Magunson. Moss. Act." and ASUS will scream in fear, but that's not what will happen. What they'll say is "You. Agreed. Man." and there goes that.
I'm sorry but MM doesn't apply here, because you AGREED that it doesn't apply. No ifs, ands or buts.
The Lumia 920, which I bought at Microsoft store back in February of this year, stopped charging via wireless. I took it to the Microsoft store to see what can be done (expecting Apple like treatment) and the store manager gave me 2 options:
1. To have the phone sent to Nokia for repairs - the warranty center will check the phone and let me know if the repair is within warranty.
2. Exchange the phone for a new one, but only if I buy a 2 years extended warranty for $99. He said he will wave the $50 replacement fee this time only.
I did go with option #2 and walked away with the new phone. The problem is that the new phone has a headphones jack issue - the sound only plays from the right headphone. I suspect if i take the phone back it will be exchanged for a new one outside of extended warranty.
So my question is: Did I make a mistake for buying the extended warranty? I have a feeling that this phone will be out of date (and possibly not supported by MSFT) before the 2 years extended warranty runs out. $99 is the 1/5 of the price of the new phone...
Thoughts?
You bought an extended warranty. That now covers the phone with the headphone issue. Your old phone no longer exist and everything is about the new one. That being said you should be able to get the new one fixed at no charge. I also think the MS store ripped you off. They should not be able to legally require you to buy an extended contract to get a phone replaced. Honestly I would fight this since we are dealing with a 600 USD phone here that should be replaced for free as long as it is with in warranty. Also does the extended warranty cover things like drops or water damage? If not then you wasted your money on the warranty. The AT&T extended warranty which cost an extra 9 bucks a month covers ANYTHING that can or could happen to phone rather accidental or on purpose for the length of the contract. I could drop it then back my car over it and they would replace it no questions asked.
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You bought an extended warranty. That now covers the phone with the headphone issue. Your old phone no longer exist and everything is about the new one. That being said you should be able to get the new one fixed at no charge. I also think the MS store ripped you off. They should not be able to legally require you to buy an extended contract to get a phone replaced. Honestly I would fight this since we are dealing with a 600 USD phone here that should be replaced for free as long as it is with in warranty. Also does the extended warranty cover things like drops or water damage? If not then you wasted your money on the warranty. The AT&T extended warranty which cost an extra 9 bucks a month covers ANYTHING that can or could happen to phone rather accidental or on purpose for the length of the contract. I could drop it then back my car over it and they would replace it no questions asked.
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That was the first option he was offered from the store. They do not have to replace the device on the spot, they are allowed to send it in for repair. At least, that's how our law in germany is, not sure about other countries.
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That was the first option he was offered from the store. They do not have to replace the device on the spot, they are allowed to send it in for repair. At least, that's how our law in germany is, not sure about other countries.
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Unless Germany is just strange, there really is no law that dictates this. It is just what most have accepted as the norm and so the businesses use such policies becuase they can and no one knows better. As the paying customer you have a right to decide ho it is handled if it is under warranty. Typically you just ask then to give you a new phone on the spot and then they do whatever with the bad one. The usually will send it in for repair then sell it as a refurbished unit. Sometimes rather than a new phone they will offer you a refurb which many times is better becuase it has all the known issue of a new unit fixed.
Of course this all does not really matter now as what done is done but in the future, as a paying customer it helps to know your rights and not to let the business take you for a ride.
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Unless Germany is just strange, there really is no law that dictates this. It is just what most have accepted as the norm and so the businesses use such policies becuase they can and no one knows better. As the paying customer you have a right to decide ho it is handled if it is under warranty.
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This is definatelly not true for germany. In germany Law dictates that the customer has to allow the seller/manufacturer to fix a broken device or item 3 times in a reasonable ammount of time. Court orders have proven that this means a shop can send the item in for repair and is not forced to either give you a brand new phone or a "rental" unit. He can also offer you to nullify the sales contract and refund you (note: offer, not force). If the seller decides to replace the phone, he still is not forced to replace it on the spot but in a reasonable ammount of time it takes for a replacement unit to arrive. If the seller/manufacturer fails to deliver a fully working product after the third try (note that the law does not explicitly state "third try" or "three times" but again uses the wording "reasonable" - which courts have often ruled to be three or four times) you can demand he refunds you the full price of the item.
EDIT: I can also not believe that other countries, including the US, can by law force the seller to replace the item on the spot. It's simply not reasonable as it would require the seller to keep a sufficient stock of devices in storage he can effectively not sell to customers as they need to be held back for "replacements".
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This is definatelly not true for germany. In germany Law dictates that the customer has to allow the seller/manufacturer to fix a broken device or item 3 times in a reasonable ammount of time. Court orders have proven that this means a shop can send the item in for repair and is not forced to either give you a brand new phone or a "rental" unit. He can also offer you to nullify the sales contract and refund you (note: offer, not force). If the seller decides to replace the phone, he still is not forced to replace it on the spot but in a reasonable ammount of time it takes for a replacement unit to arrive. If the seller/manufacturer fails to deliver a fully working product after the third try (note that the law does not explicitly state "third try" or "three times" but again uses the wording "reasonable" - which courts have often ruled to be three or four times) you can demand he refunds you the full price of the item.
EDIT: I can also not believe that other countries, including the US, can by law force the seller to replace the item on the spot. It's simply not reasonable as it would require the seller to keep a sufficient stock of devices in storage he can effectively not sell to customers as they need to be held back for "replacements".
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I never said it was a law, but buyers right. They do not have to replace it on the spot unless the customer asks to do so. Most don't becuase they do not know they have that right. So no a store does not keep stock becuase they very rarely have to replace a phone on the spot.
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I never said it was a law, but buyers right.
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If it is not in the law, how can it be buyers right? There has to be a law governing the rights and dutys of all parties involved in a purchase.
First of all I'm am a USA customer and this was my experience. I don't know if it would be different in other countries but I've read a few customer service horror stories from people in other countries. So let's get to it
For anyone interested or considering it I would HIGHLY recommend getting the insurance with ADH (Accidental Damage from Handling) plan through Sony. It is an option when buying the phone through the Sony store and I think even after buying the phone you have either 60 days or a full year from the date of purchase to buy the plan. Anyway here is my experience.
I received my XZU from the Sony store in mid December 2013 I decided to buy the plan with ADH because $80 seemed like a bargain to replace a $680 device. (the ADH plan covers pretty much anything). Well as fate would have it on new years eve I was working during the day and when stopping to take lunch I checked my phone and noticed the screen was cracked and there were only 2 possibilities.
1.) the screen cracked from the pressure of being in my front jeans pocket while working.
OR
2.) while carrying a ladder at work it manged to bang against the phone while it was in my pocket and broke the screen.
So naturally I called Sony and told them possibility #1 lol.
The automated line was easy to navigate through and I was talking to a rep within 5 minutes. They were very thorough and asked several question like what pocket the phone was in. What I had been doing and told them everything I could while still maintaining complete innocence . I was transferred to about 3 reps and had to tell and confirm my story several times but finally the last rep said they would send a brand new phone too my home and all I had to do was put the old phone in the box and ship it back I think I had everything taken care of and was off the phone in about 20 minutes.
They have to receive the broken device within 30 days of shipping you your replacement or you will be billed for a 2nd phone. my replacement arrived in about 4 days and was brand new. The only issue I had was when I received the new device they forgot to send a return label. So I had to call back and get a printable label emailed to me. Which took a long time (5 days) but I shipped my broken phone back and have been using the replacement for about 2 months now with no issues *knock on wood * ((I'm actually writing this thread from my perfectly function 2nd XZU )). I was surprised at how smooth the process went. I was expecting to be put through all kinds of stuff, or expecting to get a refurbished phone but no it was brand new. I don't know how they can afford to hand out high end devices for $80 but I was ecstatic and I never received a bill for a second phone so I couldn't be more pleased with the service from Sony. but I now keep a flip cover on my XZU anytime it isn't on the charger.
One thing to note is that your $80 plan only covers one replacement and you cannot buy the plan twice (I know because I tried) . so if you use the plan and get a replacement phone and then break your replacement device then you have to buy a brand new phone from Sony to buy the ADH protection plan again. So stock up on the $6 leather flip cases on eBay from China lol that's what I've done.
I hope this helps anyone thinking about buying the ADH plan. If I wouldn't have bought it I would be looking at costly repairs or $680 for a new phone after only having it about 2 weeks. So if you're still eligible for the plan go buy it Now and remember if you have to use it, when you call in play dumb and make yourself look as innocent as possible. Had I told them it was probably broke while carrying a ladder I might have been put through some sort of loophole or something.
Anyway hope this helps. And if you have any questions ask away.
Good to hear a positive customer service story, most people just want to ***** about CS and the reps that work there
I'm glad I bought the insurance. Thanks for your experience. Now I feel better about sony customer service after hearing all other stories. But like you did and what I would do to is be calm and nice and do what they say and ask.
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NuttinSpecial said:
First of all I'm am a USA customer and this was my experience. I don't know if it would be different in other countries but I've read a few customer service horror stories from people in other countries. So let's get to it
For anyone interested or considering it I would HIGHLY recommend getting the insurance with ADH (Accidental Damage from Handling) plan through Sony. It is an option when buying the phone through the Sony store and I think even after buying the phone you have either 60 days or a full year from the date of purchase to buy the plan. Anyway here is my experience.
I received my XZU from the Sony store in mid December 2013 I decided to buy the plan with ADH because $80 seemed like a bargain to replace a $680 device. (the ADH plan covers pretty much anything). Well as fate would have it on new years eve I was working during the day and when stopping to take lunch I checked my phone and noticed the screen was cracked and there were only 2 possibilities.
1.) the screen cracked from the pressure of being in my front jeans pocket while working.
OR
2.) while carrying a ladder at work it manged to bang against the phone while it was in my pocket and broke the screen.
So naturally I called Sony and told them possibility #1 lol.
The automated line was easy to navigate through and I was talking to a rep within 5 minutes. They were very thorough and asked several question like what pocket the phone was in. What I had been doing and told them everything I could while still maintaining complete innocence . I was transferred to about 3 reps and had to tell and confirm my story several times but finally the last rep said they would send a brand new phone too my home and all I had to do was put the old phone in the box and ship it back I think I had everything taken care of and was off the phone in about 20 minutes.
They have to receive the broken device within 30 days of shipping you your replacement or you will be billed for a 2nd phone. my replacement arrived in about 4 days and was brand new. The only issue I had was when I received the new device they forgot to send a return label. So I had to call back and get a printable label emailed to me. Which took a long time (5 days) but I shipped my broken phone back and have been using the replacement for about 2 months now with no issues *knock on wood * ((I'm actually writing this thread from my perfectly function 2nd XZU )). I was surprised at how smooth the process went. I was expecting to be put through all kinds of stuff, or expecting to get a refurbished phone but no it was brand new. I don't know how they can afford to hand out high end devices for $80 but I was ecstatic and I never received a bill for a second phone so I couldn't be more pleased with the service from Sony. but I now keep a flip cover on my XZU anytime it isn't on the charger.
One thing to note is that your $80 plan only covers one replacement and you cannot buy the plan twice (I know because I tried) . so if you use the plan and get a replacement phone and then break your replacement device then you have to buy a brand new phone from Sony to buy the ADH protection plan again. So stock up on the $6 leather flip cases on eBay from China lol that's what I've done.
I hope this helps anyone thinking about buying the ADH plan. If I wouldn't have bought it I would be looking at costly repairs or $680 for a new phone after only having it about 2 weeks. So if you're still eligible for the plan go buy it Now and remember if you have to use it, when you call in play dumb and make yourself look as innocent as possible. Had I told them it was probably broke while carrying a ladder I might have been put through some sort of loophole or something.
Anyway hope this helps. And if you have any questions ask away.
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We also have it here in PH., under a xperia shop handed by a telecommunication (or i think its just a partnership). the insurance is called Worry-Free Warranty it will cover up to 2 years warranty on all parts and labor and an accidental warranty in-case your too clumsy. the salesman explain to be even like the warranty is expiring next month and your still under the warranty they will replace it for a same unit OR! if the unit is unavailable they will replace it for a phone with the same price OR you can choose a higher one and just add some cash. and i was like WOAH! thank God i saw this shop. even i paid alot im worry free, BUT there is a catch. Warranty said if I rooted the device and it is still on warranty the whole warranty will be void. kinda hmm kinda sad but happy it is a mix emotion for me but yay i love my Xperia Z ultra w/ Cp12
blueether said:
Good to hear a positive customer service story, most people just want to ***** about CS and the reps that work there
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I'm glad I bought the insurance. Thanks for your experience. Now I feel better about sony customer service after hearing all other stories. But like you did and what I would do to is be calm and nice and do what they say and ask.
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Happy to help. I couldn't find many reviews of people's experience with ADH so with as well as my experience went I just had to post it to put people at ease. You can't beat the price for what it offers.
Yeah I am kind of a Sony fanboy. I've owned Playstations, psp, TVs, now a Vaio T that I love, and this phone is the best I've ever owned. And I'm so happy with the CS, I have yet to have an issue with Sony. And yeah as long as your polite and stick to your story they will take care of you.
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We also have it here in PH., under a xperia shop handed by a telecommunication (or i think its just a partnership). the insurance is called Worry-Free Warranty it will cover up to 2 years warranty on all parts and labor and an accidental warranty in-case your too clumsy. the salesman explain to be even like the warranty is expiring next month and your still under the warranty they will replace it for a same unit OR! if the unit is unavailable they will replace it for a phone with the same price OR you can choose a higher one and just add some cash. and i was like WOAH! thank God i saw this shop. even i paid alot im worry free, BUT there is a catch. Warranty said if I rooted the device and it is still on warranty the whole warranty will be void. kinda hmm kinda sad but happy it is a mix emotion for me but yay i love my Xperia Z ultra w/ Cp12
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Yeah I think if you root or alter the phone it voids warranty. Which is why I didn't remove the ASPL on the screen with the oleophobic coating. I just put on a screen protector and it's slick as glass. And the rooting doesn't bother me. I Change the themes, wallpaper, and ringtones and that's good enough for me lol
My story is a bit different
1. I broke my phone
2. called sony same day, after about 5 mins the rep assured me all was set and id receive my phone within a week or so.
3. I called the next day just to be sure since the process went through just a but too smooth. Ofcourse when i called back some rep said, nothing is being shipped to you because you havent spoken to "us" yet. I couldnt get out of him what "us" was and who i spoke to the day before. After some time of back and forth it turned out i also needed to give me CC#, which i did and they assured me the device would be sent soon.
4. Called back 3 days later, they said its being processed.
5. Called back next week, said its still being processed
6. Called back a few days later, still being processed.
7. Back on the 14th day, exactly two weeks later, they assured me the phone would be shipped out next day.
8. !!!! it was, i got it 1 day later!
9. No return label
10. called about return label, they said they would email it
11. called a few days later, they said it would be emailed
12. called a few days later gave them another email as well ....
13. Now its been about 2.5 weeks since i got the replacement phone and they still have not sent or emailed me anything about a shipping label.
All i care is they dont charge me for the replacement. If they do i am going to make a charge back.
All i want to do is send back the old phone and they will not send me a label.
so that has been my experience so far...
What if Z1 Compact was bought on eBay?
If I purchased my phone brand new/sealed on eBay and then buy ADH plan from sony.com, will the support department still honor the warranty in case something goes wrong with the device?
Thanks!
Hi, I just got off the phone with Sony. They got my credit card info, etc and told me that it needs processing and takes about 4-5 business days until I receive a confirmation e-mail from them. Did you have to go through this?
Thanks!!
Mine was replaced via warranty, late last year. Bought off eBay, used via WiFi for a few weeks. Something caused me to call ? Sony, so they e-mailed ? a free shipping label ? , FedEx picked up for free as well. Total turnaround was EXACTLY one week, in which they shipped me my current device , BRAND NEW . A first in my years experience with Sony, was shocked ? and surprised. Now running ? JB since yesterday . Cannot complain, a few things I would have kept that are no longer available . Just have to go through another learning ⤵ curve , no biggie .
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Sony "Protection Plus" - one time repair??
I purchased a "Sony 2 Yr Protection Plan w/ADH" when I bought my phone, about 14 months ago. Now, it has developed a digitizer problem (large dead spot) that requires repair. Contract details if anyone wants to read them:
We would like to thank you for purchasing a Sony Protection PLUS plan. A contract is now in place, and registration has been completed based on the information shown above for your extended service plan coverage.
Below we have included the contract information and the Terms and Conditions, which will provide you with detailed information about your Extended Service Plan coverage.
Confirmation Number: 000XX000XXXXX00X0000X0X000XXXXXX000X00X
Model Number: SNYUSAssignments
Extended Service Plan SKU: PPSMP2A03
Extended Service Plan Description: 2 Yr Protection Plan w/ADH
Plan start date: 10/07/2014
Plan end date: 10/07/2016
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at 1-855-766-9777, Monday – Friday, 5:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m. PT, Saturday – Sunday, 6:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. PT.
Thank you once again for your purchase, and we hope you have a wonderful experience with your product and the Protection PLUS Plan.
Sincerely,
The Sony Protection PLUS Team
Protection PLUS Service Plan + Accidental Damage
[ESC - SONY CONSUMER ELECTRONICS PROTECTION PLAN]
1. The Contract.
These Terms and Conditions govern the hardware service and/or replacement service provided to you for the Sony branded product (“Product”) listed on your proof of purchase (“Proof of Purchase”). Your “Contract” includes these Terms and Conditions and your Proof of Purchase. The provider contractually obligated to you under the terms of this Contract (“Provider”) is Federal Warranty Service Corporation, [P.O. Box 105689, Atlanta, GA 30348-5689], [1-877-881-8578] in all states except in Florida, where the Provider is United Service Protection, Inc., [11222 Quail Roost Drive, Miami, FL 33157], [1-877-881-8578]; and in Oklahoma, where the Provider is Assurant Service Protection, Inc. [P.O. Box 105689, Atlanta, GA 30348-5689], [1-866-266-9459]. Although Sony Electronics, Inc., [16530 Via Esprillo, Bld 1 San Diego, CA 92127] (“Sony”) is not the Provider, and this Contract is between you and the Provider, Sony is the administrator of this Contract and when you need service you should call Sony at [1-855-766-9777]. This Contract is not related to nor an extension of your manufacturer’s warranty, and instead includes only these Terms and Conditions and Proof of Purchase. This Contract is not a contract of insurance. Unless otherwise regulated under state law, the contents of this Contract should be interpreted and understood within the meaning of a "Service Contract" in Public Law #93-637.
2. What is Covered.
The available coverages are listed below. The coverage you purchased will be indicated on your Proof of Purchase.
2.1. Hardware Coverage
This Contract provides coverage for Product hardware failures due to defects in workmanship and/or materials, including power surge while properly connected to a surge protector. You may be asked to provide your surge protector for examination to validate a claim. Your Contract may provide for repairs or, depending on the Product, replacement coverage only. For PC customers, this Contract provides for one replacement of a factory installed rechargeable battery over the life of the Contract. Sony may use non-original manufacturer parts or re-manufactured parts for the repair.
2.2. Accidental Damage
You may also purchase optional coverage for failures due to accidental damage from handling (“ADH”), such as drops or spills that arise from normal handling and use of the Product. ADH coverage only applies to operational or mechanical failure caused by an accident from handling that is the result of an unexpected or unintentional external event that arises from your normal daily usage. If the Product is replaced, all obligations owed under this Contract will have been satisfied.
ADH coverage does not protect you in the cases of (a) theft, loss, misplacement, war, terrorism, fire, abuse, a willful or intentional act, (b) alteration or modification of the Product in any way, (c) damage caused by failure to perform manufacturer’s recommended operating instructions/standards or recommended maintenance, (d) cosmetic damage (e.g., scratches or dents) that does not prevent the proper functionality or use of the Product.
3. If You Need Service
If you need service during the Coverage Term, Sony will either (a) repair the defect, or failure due to ADH, using new or refurbished parts, (b) exchange the Product as a repair solution with an authorized replacement Product that may be new or refurbished, of like quality and functionality (c) replace the Product with an authorized replacement Product that may be new or refurbished, of like kind, quality and functionality not to exceed the purchase price of the Product; or (d) provide you with an amount equal to the purchase price of the Product less any sales tax, shipping, and service claims previously paid. Sony will try to match specific replacement preferences such as equipment color, cosmetics, or features, but this is not guaranteed.
If your Product is un-repairable and Sony replaces your Product, upon receipt of your Product by Sony, the replacement Product will be shipped to you. When you receive the replacement Product, the originally covered Product will become Sony ‘s property. If the Product is un-repairable and Sony replaces the Product all obligations owed under this Contract will have been satisfied.
If your Product is repairable and Sony exchanges your Product as a repair solution, upon receipt of your Product, the exchange Product will be shipped to you. When you receive the exchange Product, the originally covered Product will become Sony’s property. If the Product is repairable but Sony chooses to exchange the Product as a repair solution, this Contract will continue to provide coverage on the exchange Product for the remainder of your Contract coverage.
In the event that you are provided a replacement Product prior to your return of the originally covered Product, a hold on your credit card for an unrecovered equipment fee will be required (“Unrecovered Equipment Fee”). If you do not return your Product within 15 days after receipt of your replacement Product, the Unrecovered Equipment Fee will be processed. Upon timely receipt by Sony of your Product, the hold will be removed. If you do not provide a credit card authorization for the Unrecovered Equipment Fee, you will be shipped a box with a pre-paid postage label to deliver your original Product prior to providing a replacement Product.
If your Product fails three (3) times due to the same part failure, upon the fourth service request for the same part failure, Sony will replace the failed Product with an authorized replacement Product, which may be new or refurbished, of like kind, quality and functionality not to exceed the original retail purchase price of the Product. Replacement of the Product will satisfy all obligations owed under this Contract.
4. How to Get Service.
Call Sony at [1-855-766-9777] Monday to Friday, 5:00 a.m.–9:00 p.m. PST, Saturday and Sunday, 6:00 a.m.–5:00 p.m. PST. All service will be provided by Sony or Sony’s authorized service providers. If you purchased on-site service, but due to special circumstances (such as environmental or technical requirements, if your Product has failed due to ADH, repairs cannot be made on-site, or you are located more than fifty (50) miles from an authorized service provider), this Contract will cover the shipping cost of your Product to an authorized service provider. Sony will inspect the Product and validate that the reported failure is covered under this Contract. If the failure is not covered, you will be responsible for covering the cost of repair at that time or the Product will be returned to you.
5. Coverage Term.
Coverage may begin either on the date of Product purchase or the date of Product shipment (if purchased online) and will end after the expiration of the term listed on your Proof of Purchase (“Coverage Term”). This Contract provides benefits during and in addition to Sony’s manufacturer limited warranty; it does not replace Sony’s manufacturer limited warranty, but provides certain additional benefits during the term of the Sony manufacturer limited warranty. There is no obligation to renew this Contract.
6. Your Responsibilities.
To receive service under the Contract, you agree to:
A. have your Contract number and Proof of Purchase available if requested;
B. provide information about the symptoms and causes of any issues with the Product;
C. respond to requests for information such as Product serial number, model number, any peripheral devices connected or installed on the Product, any error messages displayed, actions taken before the Product experienced the issue and steps taken to resolve the issue;
D. maintain the Product in accordance with the service requirements from Sony under ts manufacturer limited warranty, including care and operating instructions/standards or recommended maintenance provided in the user guide;
E. protect the Product from further damage and operate the Product in accordance with the instructions/standards listed in the user’s guide;
F. back up your data and software before services are performed and remove any and all sensitive data from the Product prior to service. Sony is not responsible for any loss of your data under any circumstances. The contents of your Product may be deleted and the hard drive and/or storage media reformatted in the course of service. All Product settings will be returned to the original Sony default settings. All Product firmware (if applicable) will be updated to the latest official Sony version at the time of service.
G. make your Product accessible to the authorized service provider if your Product is installed within custom cabinetry or in a custom unit;
H. provide a non-threatening and safe environment to the call agent and the authorized service provider and ensure the presence of an adult at the time of scheduled on-site service, and reasonably allow the authorized servicer to perform the appropriate service;
I. provide notice of any defect or deficiency in service within ninety (90) days of discovery;
J. notify Sony if your address changes.
7. Cancellation.
You may cancel this Contract at the location of purchase. If you cancel within the first sixty (60) days of purchase, you will be refunded the full Contract price, less the cost of any repairs made, except as otherwise required by law. If you cancel your Contract after sixty (60) days from the date of purchase, you will receive a pro-rata refund. The effective date of cancellation is the date Sony receives your request for cancellation. We reserve the right to cancel this Contract at any time in the event of fraud or material misrepresentation by you. If we cancel this Contract, you will be provided with a written notice at least thirty (30) days prior to cancellation at your last known address, with the effective date for the cancellation and the reason for cancellation. You will receive a refund of the unearned pro-rata Contract price, less any claims paid, except as otherwise required by law.
8. What is Not Covered.
This Contract does not cover:
A. coverage, components, or products unless sold under a single SKU or “built-to-order,” TV stands or wall mounts, de-installation or re-installation of wall mounted TVs and other products, or inaccessible products;
B. consumable items such as non-factory-installed batteries, printer cartridges, bulbs, screen protectors, accessory cables, removable data storage devices;
C. any repair covered by Sony’s manufacturer’s limited warranty repairs noted in service bulletins and offered by Sony free of charge, repairs initiated by Sony under the manufacturer’s limited warranty or under a recall program, costs associated with Sony’s recommended normal maintenance under the manufacturer’s limited warranty;
D. unauthorized repairs;
E. failures of components such as cabinets, frames, masks, finish defects, glass windows, scratched lenses, cases, bags, accessories purchased with the Product, docking stations;
F. damage or failures caused by conditions beyond our control such as wiring, power supply, rust, corrosion, infestation, negligence, modifications, abuse, misuse, acts of God, power surge where no surge protector was in use, failure to follow Sony’s recommended maintenance, improper installation, non-factory-installed batteries, problems with phone lines;
G. defects that existed prior to this Contract purchase;
H. loss or damage to recording media, software or data, computer viruses, software defects or software-generated problems, software added by you that is not original to the Product;
I. shipping damage to Products by the shipper or resulting from inadequate packaging by you;
J. theft;
K. monitor or screen imperfections, including image burn-in, minor pixel issues that do not affect the overall viewing of the panel;
L. accidental or intentional damage, cracked or damaged monitor, laptop or display screens (except for covered repairs due to ADH if purchased by you);
M. intentional, consequential or incidental damage or gross neglect, including abusive or willful mishandling;
N. data stored on disk drives or other memory devices;
O. normal wear and tear, loss, war, terrorism, or misplacement
P. cleaning of your Product (internal and external);
Q. shipping cost of any Product located outside of the United States of America and U.S. Territories.
9. Contract Transfer.
You can assign your Contract to another person by contacting Sony.
10. Arbitration.
Read the following Arbitration provision carefully. It limits certain of your rights, including your right to obtain relief or damages through court action.
Should a dispute arise related to this Contract or the coverage of your Product pursuant to this Contract, you agree that such dispute shall be decided via binding Arbitration. To begin Arbitration, either you or we must make a written demand to the other party for Arbitration. The Arbitration will take place before a single arbitrator. It will be administered in keeping with the Expedited Procedures of the Commercial Arbitration Rules ("Rules") of the American Arbitration Association ("AAA") in effect when the claim is filed. You may get a copy of these AAA's Rules by contacting AAA at 1633 Broadway, 10th Floor, New York, NY 10019, calling (800) 778-7879 or visiting www.adr.org. The filing fees to begin and carry out Arbitration will be shared equally between you and us. This does not prohibit the arbitrator from giving the winning party their fees and expenses of the Arbitration. Unless you and we agree, the Arbitration will take place in the county and state where you live. The Federal Arbitration Act, 9 U.S.C. § 1, et seq., will govern and not any state law on Arbitration. YOU AGREE AND UNDERSTAND THAT this Arbitration provision means that you give up your right to go to court on any claim covered by this provision. You also agree that any Arbitration proceeding will only consider your claims. Claims by, or on behalf of, other individuals will not be arbitrated in any proceeding that is considering your claims. Please refer to the State Disclosures section of this Contract for any added requirements in your state. In the event this Arbitration provision is not approved by the appropriate state regulatory agency, and/or is stricken, severed, or otherwise deemed unenforceable by a court of competent jurisdiction, you and we specifically agree to waive and forever give up the right to a trial by jury. Instead, in the event any litigation arises between you and us, any such lawsuit will be tried before a judge, and a jury will not be impaneled or struck.
YOU AND WE UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, BECAUSE OF THIS PROVISION, NEITHER YOU NOR WE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO COURT EXCEPT AS PROVIDED ABOVE OR TO HAVE A JURY TRIAL OR TO PARTICIPATE AS ANY MEMBER OF A CLASS OF CLAIMANTS PERTAINING TO ANY CLAIM.
The problem is that Sony is telling me verbally that I get "one bite at the apple" for a claim. In other words, my warranty expires upon their one-time fix to this problem.
I sure don't see that in the terms. Has anyone else had that experience? Thank you.
I see that the OP noted the one-and-done policy for replacement (overlooked that part on my first read). However, it still doesn't make sense to me and the contract, terms posted above, doesn't say that in words I comprehend.
If I have this device repaired, instead of replaced, well the coverage continue for the full 24 months?