I have the good MDK baseband and currently on Hyperdrive AOSP. I wanted to upgrade my radio. Is this the same as baseband, will it break something?
orateam said:
I have the good MDK baseband and currently on Hyperdrive AOSP. I wanted to upgrade my radio. Is this the same as baseband, will it break something?
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Radio is separate from build base...
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
orateam said:
I have the good MDK baseband and currently on Hyperdrive AOSP. I wanted to upgrade my radio. Is this the same as baseband, will it break something?
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Yes radios are the baseband version. Heres where the radios are, but to be safe I would make sure the MD5 matches before flashing in recovery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46550751
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heath2805 said:
Yes radios are the baseband version. Heres where the radios are, but to be safe I would make sure the MD5 matches before flashing in recovery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46550751
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Thanks.
And just because i can't figure this one thing out. How come so many people who upgrade their phones are locked out of unlocking/root, yet i can go up and down ?
Could flashing a radio other than mdk on mdk bootloader Bork your ability to make calls? I flashed mk2 radio over mdk bootloader and could not make calls on Sammy roms but could if I flashed cm based roms.
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orateam said:
Thanks.
And just because i can't figure this one thing out. How come so many people who upgrade their phones are locked out of unlocking/root, yet i can go up and down ?
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You can go up and down in terms of radios and android versions, not builds. We're you to odin to anything but mdk you would be stuck in a state where you could not regain an unlocked bootloader. All builds have a root method though. If this is something you don't understand I would research it more, simply to prevent you from accidentally losing your mdk build.
gnubian said:
You can go up and down in terms of radios and android versions, not builds.
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ahh, so narrowed it down to builds. So what is a build? I have ODINed before, obviously to MDK. When a build, such as hyperdrive or eclipse 4.4.2 is made, it seems that they keep the parts that link back to MDK. What is that part? The reason i ask is because i want to start making my own builds and would like a deep understanding so i don't screw up.
orateam said:
ahh, so narrowed it down to builds. So what is a build? I have ODINed before, obviously to MDK. When a build, such as hyperdrive or eclipse 4.4.2 is made, it seems that they keep the parts that link back to MDK. What is that part? The reason i ask is because i want to start making my own builds and would like a deep understanding so i don't screw up.
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Those roms (I'm assuming) don't touch the bootloader, which is the part of the mdk build that you must not change in order to maintain the loki exploit that allows you to load custom roms and kernels. If you build a rom from aosp source or what have you just make sure it doesn't include any parts of the bootloader/boot chain and you should be ok.
Read this if you haven't already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
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So I just noticed today (been very busy with work) that there are some ME7 roms. I wanted to try the, is it Bone Stock one. So my stupid question, is if I try this rom.. I am not stuck to that am I? Like if I took the OTA I am stuck with that... that isnt the case with one of the ME7 roms, correct?
Sorry for the ignorance.
If you took the ota ME7 update, you can root, but cannot flash any roms as there is no custom recovery available. If your still on MDK, you can root and install custom recovery which will allow you to flash roms, even ME7 roms.
sulla65 said:
If you took the ota ME7 update, you can root, but cannot flash any roms as there is no custom recovery available. If your still on MDK, you can root and install custom recovery which will allow you to flash roms, even ME7 roms.
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Yes. I understand that.
My question was, if I try one of the ME7 roms, I still have an unlocked bootloader, correct?
meteron said:
Yes. I understand that.
My question was, if I try one of the ME7 roms, I still have an unlocked bootloader, correct?
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Yes, I'm running BoneStock now.
sulla65 said:
If you took the ota ME7 update, you can root, but cannot flash any roms as there is no custom recovery available. If your still on MDK, you can root and install custom recovery which will allow you to flash roms, even ME7 roms.
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AliceBToklas said:
Yes, I'm running BoneStock now.
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That is what I wanted to hear, as that is the rom I wanna try
Thank you!
meteron said:
That is what I wanted to hear, as that is the rom I wanna try
Thank you!
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You won't be disappointed if you're looking for a stable ROM and good battery life. Not that I have anything bad to say about the others. All the active choices seem good.
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meteron said:
Yes. I understand that.
My question was, if I try one of the ME7 roms, I still have an unlocked bootloader, correct?
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S4 has never had an unlocked bootloader, it uses the Loki exploit which enables you to basically do everything you could do with an unlocked boot loader. I think all this bootloader talk has many misinformed. I could care less about an unlocked bootloader, I would like an exploit like Loki again if possible.
But to answer your question, you will still have the Loki exploit.
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Say I'm running MDK 4.2.2, I have a custom recovery installed, and then 4.3 comes out. Could I just wait for a dev to release their own flashable version of TouchWiz 4.3 with the unlocked bootloader and MDK baseband? Or would it not be the same as updating to 4.3 OTA (so, would the update not be as "good")? Sorry if this is a really noob question. Thanks!
mateopase said:
Say I'm running MDK 4.2.2, I have a custom recovery installed, and then 4.3 comes out. Could I just wait for a dev to release their own flashable version of TouchWiz 4.3 with the unlocked bootloader and MDK baseband? Or would it not be the same as updating to 4.3 OTA (so, would the update not be as "good")? Sorry if this is a really noob question. Thanks!
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Never take an update from Samsung/Verizon. At least as long as we have developer support just wait for a flashable ROM to be released.
BTW - the baseband is not relevant on this issue. You can flash a new radio if you choose. I've seen no reason to but many have.
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AliceBToklas said:
Never take an update from Samsung/Verizon. At least as long as we have developer support just wait for a flashable ROM to be released.
BTW - the baseband is not relevant on this issue. You can flash a new radio if you choose. I've seen no reason to but many have.
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Oh, ok. I understand. Thanks!
So, I have unlocked bootloader, rooted, running custom recovery and amd currently running MDK baseband.
I do see that there have been several updates to the radio (baseband) but also a lot of stuff that gives me pause.
Is it possible for me to upgrade the baseband without loosing the unlocked bootloader, SU, and custom recovery?
If it is, is there any advantage?
I have tried almost every radio from the various updates . . none are any better in my opinion. I say leave it alone.
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RedBullet said:
So, I have unlocked bootloader, rooted, running custom recovery and amd currently running MDK baseband.
I do see that there have been several updates to the radio (baseband) but also a lot of stuff that gives me pause.
Is it possible for me to upgrade the baseband without loosing the unlocked bootloader, SU, and custom recovery?
If it is, is there any advantage?
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I would agree, but if you want to change things, I'd recommend backing up in recovery before making any changes so you can revert easily. A lot of the custom ROMs will also update the radio, and you get a lot of other nice features and improvements (ie. better batterylife).
y157 said:
I would agree, but if you want to change things, I'd recommend backing up in recovery before making any changes so you can revert easily. A lot of the custom ROMs will also update the radio, and you get a lot of other nice features and improvements (ie. better batterylife).
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So, can I flash the radio without impacting my unlocked bootloader/root/custom recovery? If so, what the latest and how?
RedBullet said:
So, can I flash the radio without impacting my unlocked bootloader/root/custom recovery? If so, what the latest and how?
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For boatloads of information I would refer you to:
Sticky at the top of general
In here I think the post on the radio is in the second posting.
I still think the hassle to do the radio change only is not worth the effort.
RedBullet said:
So, can I flash the radio without impacting my unlocked bootloader/root/custom recovery? If so, what the latest and how?
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You can flash radios without affecting anything else if you do it correctly. Go to the modems thread on the first page of this section and follow the instructions Surge posted.
Usually the radios don't make much difference, but you could at least update to mj7, which enables LTE band 4, a new & faster band if it is activated in your area.
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I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?
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thrgk said:
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?
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Surge's method referenced in the previous post retains root.
thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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no boot loader unlock exist, for the locked bootloader safestrap must be used
you need to read the following thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?
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thrgk said:
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?
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my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.
joshm.1219 said:
A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section
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There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.
jake.99x3 said:
There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.
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Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever be truly usable. Kexec support is needed
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decaturbob said:
my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.
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Not precisely. You can be rooted but otherwise stock and manage to take the OTA successfully. That will leave you unrooted.
My phone was rooted factory stock and would have taken the OTA successfully if not for a single modified file left behind by an older version of SuperSU and a file modified by Safestrap. If Safestrap wasn't active and without that old SuperSU thing it would have taken the OTA.
From a practical standpoint, you're right. Unless you're stock, there's a good chance the OTA will fail to start. And keep nagging you each time it fails.
thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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If you are on MK2, than you have a locked bootloader, which as of today is STILL UNLOCKABLE!!!!
Therefore, there is no AOSP ROMS avaiable for us, SafeSTrap users, which means that we can only flash TW based ROMS!
there are tons of ROMs for us, SS users, and the first 3 ROMs that pop into my mind which are the best of the best for us i337 AT&T users with MK2 locked bootloaders is these:
SHOstock-i v7.0 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
Deadly Venom v3.0.2 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447482
HyperDrive ==> Android 4.3 RLS15 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2520418
HyperDrive ==> KitKat 4.4.2 RLS17 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
And here is an INDEX for ALL ROMS for the Galaxy S4, 4.3 and 4.4.2 ...this here is the best forum there is for our S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
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I have spoke of surge's upgrade/downgrade methods before. He is a senior member here on xda. The other method I know of, as far as upgrade/downgrade, is giglies. Giglies method came out after. It's fewer steps but the documentation could use an overhaul. If you see a post around the s4 forums with surge's name on it, I bet a lot of people are going to see what he has to say about it
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with towel root now available for use on NC5 phones, the need to upgrade/downgrade really is no longer a driving force.
Well I think I am going to loose my root access and update to the newest firmware and radios from Verizon. I don't do much with rooting and custom ROM's, etc anymore and I figure it is time to move onto the newest stuff. What is the best way to do this?
Currently I am on MDK stock firmware, but rooted and TWRP recovery.
Thanks guys.
CC268 said:
Well I think I am going to loose my root access and update to the newest firmware and radios from Verizon. I don't do much with rooting and custom ROM's, etc anymore and I figure it is time to move onto the newest stuff. What is the best way to do this?
Currently I am on MDK stock firmware, but rooted and TWRP recovery.
Thanks guys.
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Personally, I'd say don't do it. an MDK phone is becoming a rare commodity. You could put a custom rom on there that gives you the latest functionality of the newer releases without the bloat that comes from an OTA. Not all roms are full of fancy bells and whistles. I run Danvdh's GPE rom wich is pretty much just plain vanilla AOSP. I am running a newer radio (NC2) but other than ththe rom and radio, it's nothing fancy.
Hang on to the MDK as long as you can.
zeb carter said:
Personally, I'd say don't do it. an MDK phone is becoming a rare commodity. You could put a custom rom on there that gives you the latest functionality of the newer releases without the bloat that comes from an OTA. Not all roms are full of fancy bells and whistles. I run Danvdh's GPE rom wich is pretty much just plain vanilla AOSP. I am running a newer radio (NC2) but other than ththe rom and radio, it's nothing fancy.
Hang on to the MDK as long as you can.
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Honestly man...I always run into a problem at some point with custom ROM's....I just want a stock ROM that I would see if I updated to the newest firmware. I am on the oldest radio as well. Idk...just tired of the custom ROM stuff I guess...always stuff that doesn't work, etc...
CC268 said:
Honestly man...I always run into a problem at some point with custom ROM's....I just want a stock ROM that I would see if I updated to the newest firmware. I am on the oldest radio as well. Idk...just tired of the custom ROM stuff I guess...always stuff that doesn't work, etc...
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Danvdh puts a lot of work into his ports of the GPE roms and because it is a GPE rom, it is designed for our phones. For me, it is the ultimate stock rom with no additional carrier or OEM bloat. Just fully functioning Android and now at 4.4.4. You can't get much newer than that.
zeb carter said:
Danvdh puts a lot of work into his ports of the GPE roms and because it is a GPE rom, it is designed for our phones. For me, it is the ultimate stock rom with no additional carrier or OEM bloat. Just fully functioning Android and now at 4.4.4. You can't get much newer than that.
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Really don't want an AOSP ROM....
CC268 said:
Really don't want an AOSP ROM....
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You easily sell your MDK phone on swappa and buy a stock S4 and be money ahead
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Lol...I am just wondering how to get to the newest Stock TW ROM...whether it is on here or unrooting and updating.
For now I will just give the new Hyperdrive a try.
trade?
Dude, I've got a perfectly good and updated galaxy S4 (verizon) running the NC5 OTA update. I'll gladly pull out my mobo and send it to you if you send me yours =]
..just dont hurt it when taking the phone apart! =]
..ill even gladly pay for shipping (both ways) doooo iiiit
..also have a MI1 mobo
Haha...for now I am just back on Hyperdrive...always been good ROMs...
CC268 said:
Haha...for now I am just back on Hyperdrive...always been good ROMs...
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Hyperdrive that the one im using and i liked no problems at all..
I wish someone would offer just the bone stock newest update...that would be nice. Hyperdrive is nice, but it has a lot of extras I just don't need.
CC268 said:
I wish someone would offer just the bone stock newest update...that would be nice. Hyperdrive is nice, but it has a lot of extras I just don't need.
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You can always Odin nc5
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decaturbob said:
You can always Odin nc5
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I am very familiar with using ODIN to get back to stock like this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
But where would I get NC5? Would I lose root if I did that?
Flash jkruse ROM....its bone stock..
Or if ya want nc5 surges stone ROM..
Plenty of choices...u might regret losing ur mdk
Thanks a ton!
cobra7361 said:
Flash jkruse ROM....its bone stock..
Or if ya want nc5 surges stone ROM..
Plenty of choices...u might regret losing ur mdk
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Where is that Surge's Stone ROM you referred to?
CC268 said:
Where is that Surge's Stone ROM you referred to?
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Jkrusenrom is nf1 I think....its the newest..
Think its in general or development we section
cobra7361 said:
Jkrusenrom is nf1 I think....its the newest..
Think its in general or development we section
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Yea that is the international version...I figured I would just stick with the Verizon NC5 which is Verizon's newest.
CC268 said:
Yea that is the international version...I figured I would just stick with the Verizon NC5 which is Verizon's newest.
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Surges ROM is in his upgrade thread..
In OP..two different ones