I was pondering RUU'ing back to complete, absolute stock... I feel maybe I've lost a little bit of the push from this phone after 1,000's of rom flashes... I mean, sometimes 4 or 5 a day.. It's an addiction.. I guess? Either way, would there be any specific benefit to doing this or would it just be something for my piece of mind.. Something I've been running through the old brain here..
I don't think its good to be flashing your phone that much when I pick a ROM I stay on it for months. Though if your not having any issues with your phone I would not return it back to stock just limit your flashing a little bit.?
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jbarcus81 said:
I was pondering RUU'ing back to complete, absolute stock... I feel maybe I've lost a little bit of the push from this phone after 1,000's of rom flashes... I mean, sometimes 4 or 5 a day.. It's an addiction.. I guess? Either way, would there be any specific benefit to doing this or would it just be something for my piece of mind.. Something I've been running through the old brain here..
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I did this about a month ago just to update everything. I guess knowing all the stuff is up to date gave me some solace.... Lol
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LuckyPuppy said:
I did this about a month ago just to update everything. I guess knowing all the stuff is up to date gave me some solace.... Lol
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That's what I mean.. I wonder if it actually clears up unknown issues that may just be small enough to be noticed... Or if it just makes us feel warm and fuzzy?
The only thing updated was radio and hboot. Radio fixes SIM card issues.
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I have wondered the same thing... As a fellow flashing addict... Although I have learned a lot about recovering after fatal mistakes. I now feel confident taking more risks knowing that if I screw up, I can fix it
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DO IT
RUUing should really only bring back the stock radio and hboot. Whenever you flash a ROM everything else is included (system, kernel, apps) and replaces the stock ones, so its not like you were missing something.
orangechoochoo said:
RUUing should really only bring back the stock radio and hboot. Whenever you flash a ROM everything else is included (system, kernel, apps) and replaces the stock ones, so its not like you were missing something.
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This. And the latest radio only supposedly fixes sim card detection. So you better off fastboot radio and hboot. Then clear everything. cache data system sdcard. flash a clean install.
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Then clear everything. cache data system sdcard. flash a clean install.
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You don't want to wipe the SD card unless you're prepared to side load a rom, but otherwise correct. Wipe data, cache, dalvik, and system.
I have yet to "upgrade" past 1.15, but I have flashed the new radios and maybe a hundred ROMs. I've never had a problem since I wipe data, system, dalvik, and cache, and I NEVER restore any apps or data no matter how inconsequential I "think" it may be.
jbarcus81 said:
I was pondering RUU'ing back to complete, absolute stock... I feel maybe I've lost a little bit of the push from this phone after 1,000's of rom flashes... I mean, sometimes 4 or 5 a day.. It's an addiction.. I guess? Either way, would there be any specific benefit to doing this or would it just be something for my piece of mind.. Something I've been running through the old brain here..
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Gonna have to agree with Thay10 and Orangechoochoo on this one.
I've also flashed, and reflashed, many many ROMs. I'm currently using the 3.06 radio, and the Engineered HBoot. Running Viper2.5.0 on one DNA, and CM11.0 nightly on the other.
I see no benefit whatsoever in returning to a "stock" or a "matched setup". The whole idea of unlocking the device is to get away from the norm, and allow customization. Mix and match if you will. Maybe an older radio works better in your area. You're unlocked so you can do what works best for you, not what works best for "most consumers".
Running an RUU, just to run an RUU, makes no real sense to me.
Again, just my opinion.
Enjoy...
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Well my first post.
So I am new to this whole concept. Rooted and flashed to Ginger Tax 2 days ago. Thanks to all your excellent posts and guidance. It made this easy and pain free.
So my general question is why so many roms? Is one better than the other?
Collin
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Some of the ROMS have different addons/themes. The GB roms are still fairly new, but they are starting to have some variation (for example blackened tazz). They will probably vary even more as time goes on. The different developers' modifications appeal to different people. There are actually a few different versions there is 2.1 with sense. several 2.2. a few 2.2 with sense that issues are being worked on. and several GB. as far as which one is better or which one will work better for you, the only way is to try a few and pick what works.
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Well my first post.
So I am new to this whole concept. Rooted and flashed to Ginger Tax 2 days ago. Thanks to all your excellent posts and guidance. It made this easy and pain free.
So my general question is why so many roms? Is one better than the other?
Collin
Sent from my Ginger Tazz using XDA App
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It is more about personal preference than it is about which ROM is "better". Just as their are many linux distros, there are different flavors of Android. Some come with Sense UI, others are stock. Many have different customizations/hack/apps/features. Just try a few out and see what you like.
Well its as simple as: Our phones could still be stuck with no root and the OEM os. But thanks to all our talented and awesome devs we have the ability to flash any os we want. 2.1, 2.2, 2.3. Possibly even 3.0 in the near future. I believe there is even a throw back 1.5 rolling around still. Its all these versions and flavors that let us the end users have the ability to choose a performance and styling package if you will for our devices.
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So last week I jumped into this exciting world.
So I played with TASS and Shed roms. All was well.
Decided to do all the backups etc., formatted my sdcard, got the recent releases.
Things don't seem as snappy anymore. Frequent lags, some fc's and then today I couldn't unlock my screen.
Any thought on what I might have done?
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My only guess is to wipe the Dalvik cache, as well as see if any apps you are running could be dragging down the memory.
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csleverette said:
So last week I jumped into this exciting world.
So I played with TASS and Shed roms. All was well.
Decided to do all the backups etc., formatted my sdcard, got the recent releases.
Things don't seem as snappy anymore. Frequent lags, some fc's and then today I couldn't unlock my screen.
Any thought on what I might have done?
Sent from my ERIS GSBv2.1 using XDA App
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the kid escobar said:
My only guess is to wipe the Dalvik cache, as well as see if any apps you are running could be dragging down the memory.
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Just to cross every T, you did a full data wipe before flashing, too, right? Did you flash Google Apps (GAPPs) immediately after flashing the ROM? As escobar mentioned, have you looked to see how much memory you have left? Did you flash Cache2Cache after flashing GAPPs, which will increase your memory by a noticeable bit?
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Just to cross every T, you did a full data wipe before flashing, too, right? Did you flash Google Apps (GAPPs) immediately after flashing the ROM? As escobar mentioned, have you looked to see how much memory you have left? Did you flash Cache2Cache after flashing GAPPs, which will increase your memory by a noticeable bit?
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As an engineer, I like crossing every T so no worries.
I followed the basic steps from the instructions with the ROM in the following order:
1. Wipe Date/Factory
2. Wipe Dalvik 3 times.
3. Flash Rom
4. Flash gapps
5. Flash Cache2Cache
6. Reboot and configure
This morning after reading your post, I checked memory and its currently at ~ 50 / 190 ... sometimes a little less sometimes a little more.
csleverette said:
So last week I jumped into this exciting world.
So I played with TASS and Shed roms. All was well.
Decided to do all the backups etc., formatted my sdcard, got the recent releases.
Things don't seem as snappy anymore. Frequent lags, some fc's and then today I couldn't unlock my screen.
Any thought on what I might have done?
Sent from my ERIS GSBv2.1 using XDA App
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I also was experiencing this lag and FC's on the Gingerbread ROMs. I wiped everything before I flashed (even the memory card, I have a couple of them and this was the stock 8gb that came with the phone) My experience with the Gingerbread ROMs have been slower for me. I went back to my nandroid of XtrSense after using Gingerbread (which I used each Gingerbread ROM for a week) and I felt like my phone was the fastest it has ever been. It was so smooth and everything was just quick. I recommend trying the XtrSense 5.0.1 ROM. See if that is any better. I flash all the ROMs to try them out, but XtrSense is my everyday ROM.
csleverette said:
Well my first post.
So I am new to this whole concept. Rooted and flashed to Ginger Tax 2 days ago. Thanks to all your excellent posts and guidance. It made this easy and pain free.
So my general question is why so many roms? Is one better than the other?
Collin
Sent from my Ginger Tazz using XDA App
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For me it is just fun to look at all of the little difference the devs on here create, some interesting, some not. But fun either way.
dpiddy14 said:
I also was experiencing this lag and FC's on the Gingerbread ROMs. I wiped everything before I flashed (even the memory card, I have a couple of them and this was the stock 8gb that came with the phone) My experience with the Gingerbread ROMs have been slower for me. I went back to my nandroid of XtrSense after using Gingerbread (which I used each Gingerbread ROM for a week) and I felt like my phone was the fastest it has ever been. It was so smooth and everything was just quick. I recommend trying the XtrSense 5.0.1 ROM. See if that is any better. I flash all the ROMs to try them out, but XtrSense is my everyday ROM.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have read many posts about the quality of the Xtr roms.
I tend to think what is going on is a me issue somehow. Something I missed or maybe with what I did with reformatting my sdcard. Right after I rooted and flashed last week, both worked awesomely.
Its only after this weekend's effort at cleaning everything up from my year and half on my stock Eris did things start acting up.
Well so far I think I fixed my problems.
Fresh wipe and format of sdcard with a single fat 32 partition.
Flash rom, flash gapps, no cache2cache this time.
Pretty much smooth as silk.
Now I wonder if going back and doing cache2cache will be ok like I was reading in the GSB post?
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csleverette said:
Well so far I think I fixed my problems.
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Well except that is for this lock screen of death which I haven't figured out how to come back from without battery removal.
What is the smoothest ROM out there right now (custom or not)? I love the work that the guys do on here, but I'm just getting fed up with FC's and insane lag on my phone. The three ICS roms I've tried have been the original team perfection port, then seraphim, then the unofficial. All of them i've experienced super smooth performance at one point, and then for periods of time the phone just craps out and gives me constant FC's or lag to the point where it takes 5 seconds for the phone to register my action.
Really getting sick of buggines, makes me miss my windows phone (not really though). Is the newest stock ICS ROM the most stable?
cgibsong002 said:
Is the newest stock ICS ROM the most stable?
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It is for me at least. Rooted and debloated it myself and running unsecure kernel. My phablet is AWESOME
I always find odexed roms to be silky smooth.
Not trying to be a d!ck but "best/smoothest/fastest" rom post are not gonna help you
Its always gonna be on the user end.
If you're having problems
Start from a clean slate
Odin to make sure you're coming from a super clean state
Wipe wipe wipe every flash unless told not to
I personally Odin every other rom to make sure everything is running smooth
And every rom I've tried so far runs perfectly
on my phone (unless rom has broken features of course )
But try different stuff out.
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jayRokk said:
Not trying to be a d!ck but "best/smoothest/fastest" rom post are not gonna help you
Its always gonna be on the user end.
If you're having problems
Start from a clean slate
Odin to make sure you're coming from a super clean state
Wipe wipe wipe every flash unless told not to
I personally Odin every other rom to make sure everything is running smooth
And every rom I've tried so far runs perfectly
on my phone (unless rom has broken features of course )
But try different stuff out.
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I'm new to Android but have had this phone for a few months and have flashed a number of roms. You very well might be right and I hope so. All the roms I've tried recently seem to run nice at first then become unusable.
I'm on unofficial now and I hate using my phone because everything freezes and crashes all the time.
So what's going on? I also wipe everything before flashing. What do you mean by using Odin? Flash the ROM through there rather than recovery? I only used Odin once for root.
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Running Odin before hand is farting in the wind....
The cwm wipe is all you need.
Of after a bit your stuff gets unstable, wipe caches and that usually speeds things back up.
studacris said:
Running Odin before hand is farting in the wind....
The cwm wipe is all you need.
Of after a bit your stuff gets unstable, wipe caches and that usually speeds things back up.
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If cwm is all I need why am I having so many issues?
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My guess, you have an app, or a few that are junking up the cache partition. Causing sluggish performance.
I'M running the team perfection rom also... while i love all the features, every ****ing day i get 100 FC's. Seems like it is always something right?
I used to use SauROM RC4 and i never updated because i had * ZERO * issues.... NEVER had any problems.
I have been running the same application since day 1... seems like some Roms can handle it and some can't, but i feel you completely.
I don't agree with the other guys comment, i've been flashing/OC'ing/Tweaking for ages and it seems that some Roms just Crash Crash Crash F**king CRASH LOL!!
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studacris said:
Running Odin before hand is farting in the wind....
The cwm wipe is all you need.
Of after a bit your stuff gets unstable, wipe caches and that usually speeds things back up.
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+100000000
CWM is a God-Sent. So convenient and easy to use with many functions
studacris said:
My guess, you have an app, or a few that are junking up the cache partition. Causing sluggish performance.
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quite possibly. any way to check? or are you talking about apps that are taking up much ram?
cgibsong002 said:
quite possibly. any way to check? or are you talking about apps that are taking up much ram?
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get cache cleaner if you talking about that
Guys there is no smoothest or best. Each rom will run differently depending on the user setup and apps installed. Most bugs and FC I have seen come from either A. Not wiping system and data before flashing, or B. people restoring system App or data which can cause issues between roms.
And before you ask "Does this mean I have to reset up all my settings, WiFi points, email settings, Launcher widgets and ect?" The answer is yes. This is the price you pay for flashing custom roms.
On that note thread closed
My amaze used to be pretty solid, but I'm running into an issue where it reboots on a pretty regular basis, frequently when being turned on or launching something.
This used to happen when the battery got lower (like < 20%), so I bought some "Andida" batteries online which at first seemed great but quickly exposed the same problems.
Then I bought a pair of Anker batteries online, and at first things seemed ok but the problem has quickly reappeared and things are getting worse rapidly.
At this point, the Anker batteries are only maybe two weeks old, and no matter which of 5 batteries I put in (all fully charged, either in phone or in the Anker charger), reboots start appearing by 60%-70% battery life remaining, and its' getting so frequent that I can't rely on the phone for anything at this point.
Note - when plugged in, I don't have the problem.
It would be nice to have at least enough life left in this phone to get to the DROID DNA's release date in Canada, (or even a One X+) either of which look to be at least 30-60 days out.
Right now I am planning on doing a full NANDROID backup and fresh install of the ROM I'm running (ARHD 3.01). Past this, I could attempt to flash the latest Telus RUU but I doubt that's the issue, and I'm not sure if I would lose root or S-OFF if I go down that road.
Any thoughts on what the issue could be or if it's a detectable / repairable issue?
Thanks for any help!!
Massiv.
My phone used to do that. Just reflash an RUU. Your partitions are probably corrupted. If you want to root again, make sure you install a fresh ROM, not restore a nandroid.
I had the same exact issue no matter what Rom or ruu was flashed it still did it so I called T-Mobile and they replaced the phone under warranty and sent a new battery free of charge
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hasoon2000 said:
My phone used to do that. Just reflash an RUU. Your partitions are probably corrupted. If you want to root again, make sure you install a fresh ROM, not restore a nandroid.
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Thanks guys. No warranty coverage anymore, so will try a from-scratch "superwipe" and fresh ARHD install, and barring that, will try reflashing the Telus RUU.
I'll report back with results...
Massiv.
same issues here, and after flashing the telus ruu no more problems. Mine werent' as bad as yours though, I'd go a few days to a week before I got a restart
andy55 said:
same issues here, and after flashing the telus ruu no more problems. Mine werent' as bad as yours though, I'd go a few days to a week before I got a restart
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When you flashed the RUU did you lose root?
Massiv99 said:
When you flashed the RUU did you lose root?
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Whenever you flash an RUU, you will lose root. Just use my toolkit to root it.
hasoon2000 said:
Whenever you flash an RUU, you will lose root. Just use my toolkit to root it.
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Cool - thank you.
Massiv.
I'm not sure if I got used to the gs3, but I found the amaze a couple of weeks later laggy or stutter-y. I tried everything, sense 4, cm10 and... its just awful
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eggydrums said:
I'm not sure if I got used to the gs3, but I found the amaze a couple of weeks later laggy or stutter-y. I tried everything, sense 4, cm10 and... its just awful
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Compared to newer high end phones, yeah HTC kinda sucks now. Nearly every other dual or quad core phone i've seen is really quick on ICS but not the Amaze.
Wrong section there mate. This belongs in Q&A section.
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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Never rooted my new amaze and shuts down alot
Does this only get rid of root or does it get rid of s-off and sim unlock also?
Kusso - Flashing back to stock only removes root. It doesn't affect sim unlock or s-off.
That said - I am HAPPY to report that reverting to the Telus stock ROM (and getting off of ARHD and probably my slew of zillions of apps) has stopped the phone from rebooting, and battery life is also greatly increased!
The phone works like it should now, and is back to being a keeper.
Thanks for your help guys.
For thread searchers later, my process was:
-Backed up everything with titanium
-Backed up internal and external SD cards
-Formatted both SD's
-Manually copied back only core files (media and such) to the SD's
-Flashed the original Telus RUU from this site
-Flashed the OTA update
-Re-rooted and flashed back 4-Ext [Thanks Hasoon!]
-Mostly restored only core apps via Titanium, and mostly without the data unless I was sure the app was harmless
Back to a great experience.
Massiv.
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
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The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Dr0!dFreek said:
The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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jimi_pooh said:
Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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Dr0!dFreek said:
I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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jimi_pooh said:
Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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That's what did the trick for me when I came back. Good luck
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Dr0!dFreek said:
I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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I tend to go back and forth doing the N4 conversion and back to At&t stock. I get this fail to encryption screen,some times after I LGNPST back to stock. Pressing the "reset phone" repeatedly never does anything for me. What i've been doing is when this happens is, I'll shut the phone down and press the Vol down and HOLD first and then hold the power button. It will bring you to some kind of factory recovery where it says "HARD RESET MODE" Just press the power button to confirm the reset and it essentially just wipes the phone and brings it back to stock.
Hope that helps!
Dr0!dFreek said:
The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
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Yes there are a couple of people working on aosp ROMs right now just give them a little more time
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I know some people are against the conversion as such, but I think in the long run, this will be the only benefit of this phone - I'm expecting LG to do its thing where they don't provide any updates once their newer phones come out.
And here comes the nexus4 conversion - we'll be able to advance our phones thanks to the actual updates for nexus4 that google and the community will provide. Probably we'll lose LTE at some point when the modems will no longer be compatible with newer android versions.
My previous phone, the captivate was in a similar scenario - slightly different from the international galaxy s, but the devs worked out a set of patches to be applied against the galaxy s roms to make them work on the captivate and the captivate has long lived since, becoming one of first phones to get cm10.1 nightlies and enjoying more than a few 4.2.1 roms. It's definitely slowing down, it's been more than 2 and half years since the phone launched and people have moved on to newer devices.
So if it wasn't for the nexus4 conversion, I wouldn't have jumped on the lgog for my upgrade - the phone shipped with ICS, might get a 4.1 update eventually, but I don't expect LG to follow up with further stock updates after 4.1.
I know there is speak of AOSP roms coming to the LGOG, and I'm really thankful for the all the devs who work bringing these, and hoping we'll even see official cm10.1/cm11 then probably we won't need the conversion at all, but if it doesn't happen, or devs give up on the lgog the conversion will be the only path to newest android.
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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This phone is already essentially a N4. We are working on methods of porting the nexus 4 kernel to our phone that do not require any modifications, so we will always be able to run anything the n4 can run anyway. Basically, there will be a longer wait because this is harder to do, but it will be better in the long run, as we fully understand what is going on.
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
There is now a fix for jelly bean rons after converting back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146816
[FIX][Re-stock after N4][E970] Camera Fix for JB !!!ALPHA!!!
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whiteguypl said:
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
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Of course both would need kernel changes to make everything work 100%. Either way, someone would need to fix things. Fixing the kernel to boot with full stock may take more work, but I would consider something that does not require modifying the non "normal" partitions of the phone to make work better than something that modifies the base bootloader of the phone.
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I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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You're so right about the veil of secrecy!
C2fifield said:
While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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Who cares what team codefire thinks just keep doing what you are doing and thanks for everything can't wait to try something out. If you need more/any tester just let me know I have best buy insurance so not worried about bricking.
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sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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I'd like to just chime in and say 1) one person said you'd be an effin moron and he is far from the whole of team codefire. His words and actions don't represent the team as a whole, and his words were uncalled for. He could have said things in a nicer way. 2) The cm-10.1 you have relies on a testing version of freegee that was developed, but since abadonded. The reason it was abadonded was quickly we discovered that it bricked sprint radios. We had 4 people, including myself, loose radio. Thus this new freegee method was dropped.
We are instead working with 3.4 lge kernel source. I've also narrowed down what I believe the issue is on mako kernel not booting stock, to be the lge power management vs caf/mako power management. We'd probably have lge 3.4 working by now, but all of us, sk8 included jumped on using mako kernel once it was discovered about this slightly different freegee method. However like I said, after we bricked 4 radios on sprint, we didn't expand the testing any further and stopped.
Any word on whether or not HTC/Verizon will be sending out an OTA update containing sense 5 to our Dna?
I want sense 5, but I'm not looking to root since I think flashing roms contributed to some of the problems I had with my old phone.
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Cremacious said:
Any word on whether or not HTC/Verizon will be sending out an OTA update containing sense 5 to our Dna?
I want sense 5, but I'm not looking to root since I think flashing roms contributed to some of the problems I had with my old phone.
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Probably later in the year, like Q3 or Q4
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Probably later in the year, like Q3 or Q4
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Yep, if that fast , but even if they do it won't be as good as any of the sense 5 roms we currently have.
But @op, what issues do you think root causes. Having root only fixes problems( wakelock, no menu button, persistent notifications, etc), not causes them.
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If you have root or S-OFF someone who wanted to collect your personal information with physical access to the device could simply boot into recovery or fastboot and save a nandroid backup of the device to an external flash drive, then access the partitions on a computer. once you have s-off unless you fully encrypt the data partition, your data is unsecured.
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If you have root or S-OFF someone who wanted to collect your personal information with physical access to the device could simply boot into recovery or fastboot and save a nandroid backup of the device to an external flash drive, then access the partitions on a computer. once you have s-off unless you fully encrypt the data partition, your data is unsecured.
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I could just take someones phone and root it and then do the same. If someone really wants your data there is always a way to get it.
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If you have root or S-OFF someone who wanted to collect your personal information with physical access to the device could simply boot into recovery or fastboot and save a nandroid backup of the device to an external flash drive, then access the partitions on a computer. once you have s-off unless you fully encrypt the data partition, your data is unsecured.
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2 things.
1, unless you are a spy and have state secrets on your phone, why would anyone do that.
2, that wouldn't even work on my phone, and many others. My recovery doesn't have otg support and my phone has face unlock, so there would be no way for someone to get the nandroid off my phone.
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jellydroid13 said:
I could just take someones phone and root it and then do the same. If someone really wants your data there is always a way to get it.
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no you couldn't, HTC developed the unlock code to erase everything when you are going from a lock to an unlocked state.
This article says we're getting it in a few weeks.
http://www.pc-tablet.com/21710-htc-...droid-422-jelly-bean-sense-50-update-release/
Cremacious if you would like to further discuss root or anything, feel free to send me a PM. I understand your concern and I know where you're coming from, and I might have some info that could be useful. Would love to talk more through Gtalk or PM.
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You would think that with HTC not doing too well that they would try and up their reputation and push updates quickly as they could, or at least that what I would do to bring in customers if I ran a business. I'm pretty happy with the current version of Sense, but the new look of Sense 5 looks great to me. The design of the icons and UI is a big improvement.
The problem I had with my old phone is that the call quality dropped by a huge amount on anything other than stock. I tried to flash multiple radios to try and fix it and it didn't help. Roms also tended to lag for me a lot, which is probably something on my end, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to fix it.
Its going to be one HECK of a download 900+ MB.
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Its going to be one HECK of a download 900+ MB.
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ota's are patch roms generally....they only add whats new to the existing rom and firmware (even going from one version of android to another; in this case 4.1.1 to 4.2.2)
if you look at an otapackage you'll see a lot of "p" files that just the patch
id guess the ota will be somewhere in the range of 400-600 mbs, and it silently downloads in the background over a period of time as well....so its not like you are prompted to download and install the ota and then have to sit around for awhile
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ota's are patch roms generally....they only add whats new to the existing rom and firmware (even going from one version of android to another; in this case 4.1.1 to 4.2.2)
if you look at an otapackage you'll see a lot of "p" files that just the patch
id guess the ota will be somewhere in the range of 400-600 mbs, and it silently downloads in the background over a period of time as well....so its not like you are prompted to download and install the ota and then have to sit around for awhile
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Ya but we all know that as soon as the download is available most of us will be hitting the check for download button repeatedly.. but still a decent size download.
Cremacious said:
You would think that with HTC not doing too well that they would try and up their reputation and push updates quickly as they could, or at least that what I would do to bring in customers if I ran a business. I'm pretty happy with the current version of Sense, but the new look of Sense 5 looks great to me. The design of the icons and UI is a big improvement.
The problem I had with my old phone is that the call quality dropped by a huge amount on anything other than stock. I tried to flash multiple radios to try and fix it and it didn't help. Roms also tended to lag for me a lot, which is probably something on my end, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to fix it.
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It's not HTC's decision as to when ota's come out for our phone, it's Verizon's.
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I have a feeling it won't be an Ota but an update you need to be connected to htc sync to download. Like how Samsung pushed JB to the s2 through Kies
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