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When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
yousefak said:
When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
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It is full mirroring of the whole screen great huh? I found that out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXotbjcB6xA
And as far as I know Cyanogenmod does not have it yet but i'm really sure it will soon.
Yup, it does full mirroring, so you can play games as well
The bad part is that i got the ikross mhl adapter and it seems to be defective or smth, cause it keeps disconnecting for no apparent reason (even if i don't touch it).
My question is which mhl adapter is worth buying? I'd really like one i could use while moving the phone. Should i just go with the original one from htc? but that's a bit expensive. Any suggestions?
I have the T-Mobile brand and have no issues with it. It's been carried around in my laptop bag for a while, still works perfect. $20 from the store and around $27 shipped if you order from their site
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Which adapter charges as well?
All of them should, that's their design. Mhl plugs in to the phone, charger and hdmi plug in to the mhl. I know that atleast the T-Mobile version does, all should though. It mirrors everything, and charges my phone just fine at the same time.
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Got my MHL for $15.73 shipped from Monoprice. Been using it everyday since the day I got it to stream netflix and other TV/movie sites from my 3D or off one of the flyers in my house. It's probably been in use for 60+ days straight for about 5-6 hours each day, maybe more... I don't have cable or satellite I'm actually thinking of ordering another one maybe two just in case this one breaks or gets lost.
The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
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I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
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I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
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Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
Forgot to test out the other night. I'll try an get to it tonight before going to bed. Oh, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro. Saw some one mentioning that app earlier, so you'll be able to relate fully. For radios, Wifi and Mobile Network are never turned off on my phone. That's how I'll be testing as I never have Bluetooth on when steaming movies, and only have GPS on when I'm using Navigation or an app that needs GPS. Obviously won't need GPS to stream a movie in my house...
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got Monoprice MHL to charge last night while streaming
Took quite a bit of tinkering, but finally got positive charging (albeit not much) while streaming Battle of Midway from Netflix and the Wire from HBO GO last night. Using WTSB 1.9 rom and Monoprice MHL adapter.
What I had to do was:
-Airplane Mode;
-Turn on Wifi;
-Turn off account sync;
-Taskmanager to kill off everything but netflix;
-Use SetCPU to underclock to (648ishMHZ for netflix) or (900ishMHZ for HBO GO);
-Covedesign app to turn off button backlights;
-Covedesign app to go to backlight "blink" and disabled blink (like jumping rope) just at the right time for the backlight to stay off (may have to do this several times)(though this makes it damn hard to interact with phone unless you have bt mouse or keyboard - if not, may just want to turn brightness down as far as you can get);
My setup:
Evo3d streaming via wifi from iSpot 4G Clear device, outputting via MHL to optoma pk201 pico projector, with stock charger+usb, and audio via MHL/HDMI to pico projector.
Comment:
Netflix ROCKS (wonder why no stock landscape UI though)!!! Great streaming, no hiccups; HBO GO, on the other hand, (while AMAZING selection) constantly drops out to "Audio only stream, connect to stronger network or wifi for video", stutters, ... all kinds of crap and this is on a pretty regular 6mbps 4G Clear iSpot!
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BTW, anyone know of an app that lets you monitor your total mA usage live?
like a graphing app or anything?
There used to be a great one for WM6 that showed, for example 400milliamps with screen on, and 200milliamps with screen off and graphed it over time.
I keep getting pissed off with these phones; can anyone help me (I've been searching for years and can't find answers) mind you, I'm coming from the x51v wm6.5.3; PalmTX; Sammy Omnia...
-Why can't we turn off the backlight to the screen?
-Why can't we MANUALLY rotate to landscape or portrait? (I know you can manually engage or disengage the AUTOmatic rotation feature)
-(maybe this does exist) Why can't we get readings on how many mA we are using?
It just seems like the x51v from 2002 was so much more advanced and customizable, seems like we are re-creating the wheel over and over again.
Sorry for the rant.
Battery Monitor Widget, as mentioned in the post previous to yours...
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Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
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My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
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My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
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Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
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Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
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Except...I did. For this person:
bagelicious said:
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
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MHL Adapters are required to charge while being used, in fact, they only function if the charger is plugged in. That's part the spec, and I'd like to think I know quite a bit about MHL since I've done work and testing on the product for the company that created it, which is Silicon Image : http://www.siliconimage.com/products/family.aspx?id=10 . As for the quoted person, the adapter is not supposed to the the problem (unless you're getting a cheap knockoff one) but the power output of your charger can be an issue as well. The original Evo 3D charger outputs the proper power for the adapter to charge your phone properly. If you're using a cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord, it will most likely not charge at the same output.
I've been using and testing these adapters before you ever knew about them. Is that enough information for you?
Went to a friends after work an just got home a little while ago. Battery is at 15% so instead of putting in a freshly charged battery, I'm going to test my T-Mobile MHL Adaptor for those interested. Hope to post results tonight, definitely going to test tonight though even if results aren't posted until the morning.
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@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted and dismissed were valid, no need for that attitude. The USB cable used shouldn't really matter in the vast majority of cases, resistances introduced by even the thinnest retractable cables are pretty much negligible... I've actually tested that too. It really comes down to the charger, and possibly the MHL adapter that's in between. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
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@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted were valid, no need for that attitude. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
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So much for my expertise? Tell you what. Remove the MHL adapter out of the question. Try to charge the phone using a Samsung Moment power cord. It's all MicroUSB as you say.
It won't properly charge. Just because a power cord has a plug on one end a MicroUSB on another doesn't mean they're all equal. The point that I'm responding to is that unless you're buying a knockoff MHL adapter (or a really, really cheap one) the spec specifies that they all charge from both USB and AC, and that there is enough power to properly charge the device.
I bought the official HTC adaptor for this and I can't get it to work.
I plugged power into it, used a brand new HDMI cable and nothing works at all.
The first time I plugged it in, an icon came on up top saying HDMI out but nothing showed on the TV screen.
Now, when i plug it in the phone starts charging but nothing else happens at all.
~John
There are a couple members with the MHL adapter. You might just have a faulty accessory because to my knowledge none of them have issues.
MHL adapters do not work on their own, you have to plug a micro USB cable into the side to power it.
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MHL adapters do not work on their own, you have to plug a micro USB cable into the side to power it.
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Yep, I'm using the HTC mhl adapter and it works, but a USB cable has to be plugged from the wall to the adapter.
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Yep, I'm using the HTC mhl adapter and it works, but a USB cable has to be plugged from the wall to the adapter.
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Which brand and where can I order it at
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Which brand and where can I order it at
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Here's the one I'm using.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
Probably find a cheaper one out there, but this one worked for me.
Just out of curiosity, what would be the purpose/need to hook HDMI up to your phone? (And no, I am not being snarky or a d*ck, just curious as to what it's used for...)
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Here's the one I'm using.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
Probably find a cheaper one out there, but this one worked for me.
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That's the same one I have (and that's where I got it)
I have an AC power cord plugged into it and it charges the phone just fine but it only recognized the HDMI cable once and now it does nothing but charge the phone.
~John
You can plug the phone into an HDTV and show pictures or play movies at their full resolution on the screen. This phone can probably play HD video better than my (aging) laptop can.
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That's the same one I have (and that's where I got it)
I have an AC power cord plugged into it and it charges the phone just fine but it only recognized the HDMI cable once and now it does nothing but charge the phone.
~John
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Not sure if you tried disconnecting all of the cables and reconnecting them, but I'd give that a shot if you haven't already. A battery pull may not hurt either. Could also be a bad adapter or phone. Saw a few similar issues in the accessories section.
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That's the same one I have (and that's where I got it)
I have an AC power cord plugged into it and it charges the phone just fine but it only recognized the HDMI cable once and now it does nothing but charge the phone.
~John
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Did you choose the output in whatever application you are playing the source from? In the standard sense player, for example, there is a button that says output right next to the beats logo. I have heard that the option "TV" appears there when you are connected via HDMI or wifi to a televison.
For me, as soon as I plug in the adapter to the phone an hdmi icon appears in the notification section and the display shows up on the tv.
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For me, as soon as I plug in the adapter to the phone an hdmi icon appears in the notification section and the display shows up on the tv.
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Yea, mine did that the very first time I plugged it in but it hasn't done it since.
The adaptor has to be defective, I have read a good percentage of them do not work correctly.
~John
I'm using the cheapest one Amazon sells and it works great. I remember seeing someone else had a defective phone. You may be in the same boat. I'd try another adapter and if that doesn't work I would return the phone(exchange)
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This is somewhat counter-intuitive, but the Samsung MHL adapter works extremely well. Oddly enough it works better on the Rezound than it does on the Infuse or Epic Touch 4G.
All that to say, yeah, you probably have a bad adapter.
Here's an MHL adapter people posted about using successfully in the accessories forum:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
I don't know how much yours was but I know monoprice has great prices on their stuff.
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Did you choose the output in whatever application you are playing the source from? In the standard sense player, for example, there is a button that says output right next to the beats logo. I have heard that the option "TV" appears there when you are connected via HDMI or wifi to a televison.
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this is NOT true. it displays everything shown on the screen on the tv if you do this it will make no difference.
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Here's an MHL adapter people posted about using successfully in the accessories forum:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
I don't know how much yours was but I know monoprice has great prices on their stuff.
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I am also using the one from monoprice. It works like a champ no problems and is only $15. Highly recommend it!
Mine was getting the HDMI logo at the top but no output I was useing the USB OWM rezound wall plug that came with he phone. Well I used a better one i had here and now HDMI out works great... It just will not work with the HTC rezound wall plug power.. even works off of my PC's usb power just not the OEM one.
Apparently, Samsung is going to block third-party accessories.... The chip may be in our phone
http://www.maximumpc.com/samsung_may_opt_block_third_party_accessories_galaxy_devices2013
It's not just lower cost that third party products provide, it's features that Samsung are unable or unwilling to provide. Their MHL 2.0 adapter, which they fraudulently advertise as being for use with your 'Home Theater' in fact explicitly prevents you connecting to anything other than a TV directly, so if you want to run through your receiver and get output from your speakers you're out of luck. The only hope now is a third party adapter that works properly (or go back to the old MHL 1.0 adapter and 24Hz frame rates).
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It's not just lower cost that third party products provide, it's features that Samsung are unable or unwilling to provide. Their MHL 2.0 adapter, which they fraudulently advertise as being for use with your 'Home Theater' in fact explicitly prevents you connecting to anything other than a TV directly, so if you want to run through your receiver and get output from your speakers you're out of luck. The only hope now is a third party adapter that works properly (or go back to the old MHL 1.0 adapter and 24Hz frame rates).
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Have you found a third party adapter that works? I am looking for one.
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Have you found a third party adapter that works? I am looking for one.
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No but I'll be sure to post when I do find one.
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Have you found a third party adapter that works? I am looking for one.
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Doesn't one from Kanex sold by bhphotovideo.com work???
I have one and I posted the pic.
My Nokia charger works like a charm ...
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My Nokia charger works like a charm ...
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As does my old HTC Charger from my HD2, and any random MicroUSB cable with a USB adapter.
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Doesn't one from Kanex sold by bhphotovideo.com work???
I have one and I posted the pic.
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We should be asking you that question.
(1) Does it work if you plug it into something other than a monitor or HDTV (i.e. the HDMI or MHL port of an AV receiver?)
(2) What frame rate are you seeing. MHL 1.0 gives 1080p/24 while MHL 2.0 gives 1080p/60. The specification for the Kanex of 75MHz doesn't seem fast enough to support 60Hz at 1080p
(3) When you plug in external power while watching TV does the phone charge and if so at what current (Use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free&hl=en to find out).
I assume you're talking about one of these ...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1001326-REG/kanex_s3hdtv_mhl_2_0_to_hdtv.html
In a perfect world it would work the way it's supposed to. Plug a single micro-usb to HDMI MHL cable into the phone and the other end into the MHL port of a receiver, and the video/audio goes through the receiver while the phone charges from the MHL port, no external adapter required.
It's beyond me how we've been promised this for years but no-one seems to be able to make a cable that can do it.
I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Micr...e=UTF8&qid=1384305065&sr=8-4&keywords=mhl+2.0
Fair warning though; this adapter is not perfect by any means, you can read my review on amazon (the one that tested it out on the note 3). As noted in my review, I am still waiting on a replacement one (since the original one I got functioned but didn't charge when I hooked up my power adapter), and I'll let you guys know if it's better once I receive it. Even though it doesn't function perfectly, for $10 dollars it does the trick.
Edit: They are sending me an extra without having to return the original, so even if the second one doesn't charge, at $5 a pop I'm happy.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Thanks for alerting me to the counterfeit reasoning that shows this part must be a copycat, I contacted the supplier of this part to us for a partial refund as I will use this as a backup and try and buy an original and prices drop from the £39 or take advice of the other replies in this thread and find a genuine 2.0 MHL non-Samsung version. I'll report back if I have any trouble with the supplier claiming that it is a genuine part and see how far eBay support me.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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Thanks babyshanks and CraigAmey for clarifying and also confirming that I don't need it new TV to take advantage of MHL 2.0's not requirement for external USB power. As I said in my previous reply and with this information and going back to the supplier on eBay to us for a partial refund as I will keep this version of the adapter until prices come down from the genuine parts for fine art genuine MHL 2.0 adapter non-Samsung version.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
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I bought the Samsung one before it went out of stock and it works in any HDMI input also without the need to plug it to the power outlet, but I'm sure a full HD movie will drain the battery fast..
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I think for the price of the official one your better off just getting a wireless dongle, unless you plan to game with it.
Hi guys, here's the response from the eBay seller, "These items were purchased From Kondor Ltd who are one of the major UK Distributors of Samsung Accessories. I would be extremely surprised if they sold fake stock and risked losing there multi-million contract with Samsung over some cheap fake stock. I can only assume the item received has a manufacturing fault of some sort as this is the first problem we have encountered for this product sorry.", so as you can imagine I'm beginning to think there my be a fault with my phone if this message is to be believed, what do you guys think?
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I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
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The MHL 1.0 adapter doesn't care what it's plugged into, only the MHL 2.0 adapter has that issue.
I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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Mikegrmn said:
I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
NZtechfreak said:
The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
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Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
Mikegrmn said:
Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
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You're welcome.
I love using MHL, but I really wish there weren't several varieties of MHL cables (5-pin, 11-pin, 1.0 and 2.0) and also such a large number of fakes and very low quality ones out there. Makes buying difficult, as all these threads about MHL demonstrate.
Does anyone know if you can physical see whether you have a 5 pin or 11 pin MHL 2.0?
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So, is there any easy way to change the Tab 12.2 and keep USB as a data connection?
something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Mic...TG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020
xhanatos said:
something like this?
ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Micro-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-Apdater-Cable-OTG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020
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That looks promising. Has anyone tried it yet? Just ordered one and will post if it works or not.
I haven't tried it but would like to know if it did.
Ordered but it's going to be a while. Didn't realise until after I placed the order that it's coming from China. Estimated delivery between June 20 and July 24. Order status says shipped already, but I've had stuff stuck in NY Customs for a few weeks on more than one occasion.
I just found this why searching for an answer to this. Suppose to work with all 6 devices!!! (8.4, 10.1, 12.2, Tab/Pro)
http://lavalink.com/products/tablet...taneous-charge-for-tab-4-tab-pro-4-usb-1-lan/
matthelm said:
I just found this why searching for an answer to this. Suppose to work with all 6 devices!!! (8.4, 10.1, 12.2, Tab/Pro)
http://lavalink.com/products/tablet...taneous-charge-for-tab-4-tab-pro-4-usb-1-lan/
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Nice. Maybe it'll go into production before I receive the adapter I ordered, lol. Still stuck at China Post.
Jerryo100 said:
That looks promising. Has anyone tried it yet? Just ordered one and will post if it works or not.
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The power point is used to power the connected devices and doesn't power/charge the tablet.
Plus it's only powerful enough to power USB devices, it will not power 2.5 " HDD's for example.
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The power point is used to power the connected devices and doesn't power/charge the tablet.
Plus it's only powerful enough to power USB devices, it will not power 2.5 " HDD's for example.
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Did you order one of these? If not, I'm curious as to where your getting the specs from. I'm hoping your wrong of course, lol. My external 2.5" HDD runs perfectly with 500ma, so if I had my 2100ma USB wall wort powering this adapter, I would assume I would get 500ma (if the power is being limited) or more out of the 2 usb ports. Unless Samsung is planning on selling an overpriced breakout box, I don't understand why they would cripple such a nice tablet with this one port for everything crap.
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Did you order one of these? If not, I'm curious as to where your getting the specs from. I'm hoping your wrong of course, lol. My external 2.5" HDD runs perfectly with 500ma, so if I had my 2100ma USB wall wort powering this adapter, I would assume I would get 500ma (if the power is being limited) or more out of the 2 usb ports. Unless Samsung is planning on selling an overpriced breakout box, I don't understand why they would cripple such a nice tablet with this one port for everything crap.
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I ordered the 1 port version, not the 2 ports version mentioned above.
It's true the tablet can power 2.5 HDD's when connected to any/most OTG cables, but I also wanted to use it with a phone (which needs the HDD to be connected to a power source).
After I sent the 1 port version back, I looked at buying the 2 port version, but after reading the small print, I found out the tablet couldn't be powered/charged, the power point was used to power the connected devices.
Two examples of the 2 ports version I looked at:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Adapter-Cable-Galaxy-EXCITES/dp/B00J2QID16/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734708&sr=8-29&keywords=otg+cable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kool-TM-Adapter-Samsung-Smartphones/dp/B00K73U1O0/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734715&sr=8-42&keywords=otg+cable
The USB Power Port only supplies extra power to the dual OTG ports. It will not charge your mobile phone or tablet.
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The 2 port version, obviously will work when connecting 2 devices at once, but the power point, won't be any use, as the tablet will already be powering the devices.
That's my understanding of it.
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I ordered the 1 port version, not the 2 ports version mentioned above.
It's true the tablet can power 2.5 HDD's when connected to any/most OTG cables, but I also wanted to use it with a phone (which needs the HDD to be connected to a power source).
After I sent the 1 port version back, I looked at buying the 2 port version, but after reading the small print, I found out the tablet couldn't be powered/charged, the power point was used to power the connected devices.
Two examples of the 2 ports version I looked at:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Adapter-Cable-Galaxy-EXCITES/dp/B00J2QID16/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734708&sr=8-29&keywords=otg+cable
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kool-TM-Adapter-Samsung-Smartphones/dp/B00K73U1O0/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1402734715&sr=8-42&keywords=otg+cable
The 2 port version, obviously will work when connecting 2 devices at once, but the power point, won't be any use, as the tablet will already be powering the devices.
That's my understanding of it.
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Just got this adapter in: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Micro-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-Apdater-Cable-OTG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020
It does not charge the tablet. It does supply power to the 2 usb ports even when disconnected from the tablet. It is an inexpensive alternative to the Samsung otg to usb adapter I purchased for $19.99.
Hopefully Samsung or some other company comes out with an adapter that can charge the tablet and has usb and hdmi ports.
matthelm said:
I just found this why searching for an answer to this. Suppose to work with all 6 devices!!! (8.4, 10.1, 12.2, Tab/Pro)
http://lavalink.com/products/tablet...taneous-charge-for-tab-4-tab-pro-4-usb-1-lan/
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BTW, Lava contacted me, and said end of June. 2 more weeks. I'll order one as soon as I can, and will report the results. (I'm not 100% use which model I'll be getting, but they should be the same with just parts/ports missing)
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BTW, Lava contacted me, and said end of June. 2 more weeks. I'll order one as soon as I can, and will report the results. (I'm not 100% use which modem I'll be getting, but they should be the same with just parts/ports missing)
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I wish they'd make one that also included HDMI.
So you could charge your device, connect a HDD/USB and play the contents to a TV.
matthelm said:
BTW, Lava contacted me, and said end of June. 2 more weeks. I'll order one as soon as I can, and will report the results. (I'm not 100% use which modem I'll be getting, but they should be the same with just parts/ports missing)
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I wish they'd make one that also included HDMI.
So you could charge your device, connect a HDD/USB and play the contents to a TV.
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Nice find. I'm with 0-0-0 on the included HDMI. Just got this reply from them "nothing planned for hdmi. our current adapter will work with your 12.2 inch tablet on just usb though." Maybe if enough people contacted them stating their interest, they might develop one. Easy to send a message right from the product page requesting this.
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Nice find. I'm with 0-0-0 on the included HDMI. Just got this reply from them "nothing planned for hdmi. our current adapter will work with your 12.2 inch tablet on just usb though." Maybe if enough people contacted them stating their interest, they might develop one. Easy to send a message right from the product page requesting this.
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Wouldn't any of the USB to HDMI converters hooked to one of the USB ports work??? (just asking, have no intention of hooking it up)
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Wouldn't any of the USB to HDMI converters hooked to one of the USB ports work??? (just asking, have no intention of hooking it up)
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I don't think an MHL adapter works with a regular USB port. Not 100% sure though. Just ordered a male USB to female micro USB to try, lol. Even if it doesn't work, that's one adapter I don't already own. If it works through this adapter I purchased: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Ports-Micro-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-Apdater-Cable-OTG-PC-Laptop-Smartphone-Table-B-/161222133020 then it should work through that Lava adapter.
hdmi, usb , & charge at the same time
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I wish they'd make one that also included HDMI.
So you could charge your device, connect a HDD/USB and play the contents to a TV.
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Jerryo100 said:
Nice find. I'm with 0-0-0 on the included HDMI. Just got this reply from them "nothing planned for hdmi. our current adapter will work with your 12.2 inch tablet on just usb though." Maybe if enough people contacted them stating their interest, they might develop one. Easy to send a message right from the product page requesting this.
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Wouldn't any of the USB to HDMI converters hooked to one of the USB ports work??? (just asking, have no intention of hooking it up)
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here u go guys...meant to post this almost a week ago when i saw the topic. i ordered one for my tab pro 8.4 lte (should work for every variant though) & it works great...u can use hdmi (takes the regular full sized cable) with a hard drive/flash drive or large sdcard connected simultaneously while charging your device but the charger doesnt even need to be plugged up for hdmi to work. The bonus for me was that i won mine in an auction & only paid $4 for it (normally around $10 as u can see from the link which still isnt bad)...if there is any negative about this thing its all the weight/stress resting on that lil micro usb connection which means it basically needs to be placed perfectly flat. They also have a dock version which should solve that issue for around $20 which i plan to order & test at some point...hope this helps other users out with your decision
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Micro-USB-OTG-SD-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-HDTV-TV-Adapter-/131216319273?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e8d1a2329
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Micro-USB-OTG-SD-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-HDTV-TV-Adapter-/131216319273?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e8d1a2329
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What a pity, doesn't ship to Germany or Switzerland...
burningstep said:
What a pity, doesn't ship to Germany or Switzerland...
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try the link below...i checked the shipping exclusions so u should be good to go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-For-Samsung-Note-3-/191218384443?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2c8580fe3b
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yep...this DEFINITELY works simultaneously. I use it to watch movies from my usb external on my pico projector that are both connected to the tab pro...u wont be disappointed, in fact, i was surprised that it didnt even need the charger attached because it was necessary for both of my other tabs (the original 7 & the tab plus) although u will want to plug it up anyway or your battery is gonna get burned up pretty quick
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try the link below...i checked the shipping exclusions so u should be good to go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-TF-Card-Reader-Writer-HUB-MHL-To-HDMI-For-Samsung-Note-3-/191218384443?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2c8580fe3b
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Great, thank you very much.
And you're sure, that HDMI and USB-OTG and Tablet-Charging works at the same time? Thus, I'll be able to play a video from an external harddisk to my TV over HDMI out.