So while I wait for my trial period to expire before I brick another phone I've been wondering....would it be possible to root with kingo keeping Knox 0x0 then use mobile Odin to flash roms with online nandroid as backup all while keeping Knox 0x0? I don't care about Knox personally but just curious if this would work. Thanks in advance for any input.
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Well I found my own answer. This would work as long as you don't install a custom kernel. Here's a how to from chainfire. I take no credit for anything posted here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583199
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Hi guys , im going to bring my device to warranty so i flashed the stock rom (movistar) and made zero (0 ) the flash counter.. but i need to restore my old titanium back up (until tomorrow) so if i root my phone do i am able to completely unroot it without flashing the hole rom again?
I think superuser SU has a full unroot option. Keep in mind though you will need to run TA again because rooting will trip tile flash counter.
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Use framaroot to root. You can remove root via the SuperSU app.
Please post questions in q&a. Not here
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Can you root using root de le vega, disable knox using methods on http://www.droidviews.com/disable-knox-security-service-on-samsung-galaxy-devices/, install custom recovery, then unfreeze or reinstall knox (or even just leave it disabled). Will this still cause the knox counter to be tripped?
Yes knox will trip on installing new recovery still.
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mjcollum said:
Yes knox will trip on installing new recovery still.
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Damn, so knox is more integrated into the system as opposed to just a stand alone app then?
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Damn, so knox is more integrated into the system as opposed to just a stand alone app then?
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Yup. At the hardware level.
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It supposed to root with just an apk and not trip Knox.
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RubenEsp said:
It supposed to root with just an apk and not trip Knox.
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Works rooted this morning from stock NC5 .. no issues still have knox 0x0
kosmo42o said:
Works rooted this morning from stock NC5 .. no issues still have knox 0x0
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Have you installed a custom recovery and did that trip the Knox counter?
No still stock but rooted
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Have you installed a custom recovery and did that trip the Knox counter?
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Mr. Smith,
There are basically three things that KNOX checks whenever you start your phone:
Bootloader:
KNOX will check the bootloader and make sure that it is completely stock.
Recovery:
KNOX also checks the Recovery to make sure it's fully stock. Having any type of custom recovery will trip KNOX when you try to boot your phone (even if it's already rooted).
Kernal:
KNOX will check the Kernal to make sure it's not modified in any way. Thankfully, you can have root access without modifying the Kenal, so this isn't an issue in terms of tripping KNOX.
The issue was that the traditional ways of rooting included modifying one (or more) of the three above, so you'd have to trip KNOX in order to obtain Root. Towelroot apparently has found a method that does not utilize the kernal, bootloader, or recovery, so you can now have root access without tripping KNOX. This means you can install SuperSU, wireless tethering apps, and other apps that require root (Titanium Backup, XPosed, etc). This can give you unparalleled control over a stock phone.
If you want to install a custom ROM, you're going to have a much harder time. As of now, there is only one way to install a custom ROM without tripping KNOX. If a ROM developer creates a ROM that uses the stock kernal, you can install a TAR file in ODIN and it shouldn't trip KNOX. The issue with this is that very few dev's are willing to do this, because the kernal restrictions will tie their hands in terms of which mods, etc they can implement in their ROM. It also only appeals to a relatively small subset of XDA users, so it's more difficult to justify the amount of work that it would take. Also, finding someone with a 0x0 phone willing to test a ROM would be a bit difficult.
Anyways, I hope this helps your understanding of what you're getting when you root with towelroot.
Sprint note 3 nc5 I went ahead and did this one click root thing and all went well.
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Rooted tonight. Did not trip Knox. Having trouble updating the SU binaries since I cannot flash the update from the Chainfire website. Any ideas?
geebee1932 said:
Rooted tonight. Did not trip Knox. Having trouble updating the SU binaries since I cannot flash the update from the Chainfire website. Any ideas?
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I have the same problem with the binaries on super su.
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Cant you just update super su on the playstore?
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I tired to update via the play store but the SU app there is out of date. Flashable zip on Chainfire website but I have no way to flash it via the standard recovery. I do have SU access thought and have tested Titanium backup. Can anyone make the Zip file into an apk? I usually use root to remove all of the crap-ware that is on the phone.
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I tired to update via the play store but the SU app there is out of date. Flashable zip on Chainfire website but I have no way to flash it via the standard recovery. I do have SU access thought and have tested Titanium backup. Can anyone make the Zip file into an apk? I usually use root to remove all of the crap-ware that is on the phone.
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You do have su previlages, but the thing is you can only grant or deny apps.
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Just Download the root checker and xposed and youll be good
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Just Download the root checker and xposed and youll be good
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That's what I did.
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That's what I did.
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They fixed super su this morning. Can now update binaries.
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Download the zip from chainfire site unzip it and install the apk under the common folder that's how u update su
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SU update this morning worked for me as well. I was able to update the binaries. This root method has been near perfect for me!
Sounds like an effective way to root. I've already rooted my GN3 with cf auto root but I might as well try this with my Galaxy s5.
Worked for me! Knox did not trip! Donation coming
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I'm on firmware and currently.If it is possible to root my Gs5 the towel root method without a computer would somebody please explain the process. Thanks In advance!!!
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I'm on firmware ane6.
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O.k. I just towel rooted my Gs5.Is there away to add a recovery for I can flash rims without a computer. Is yes could someone please explain, help me out a little bit. Thanks
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Yes it's possible. You can go to the towelroot site on your phone and click the lamda to download the apk file. Then browse to that file on your phone, install and run.
Note: You will need to have install from unknown sources checked. It may prompt during the install to adjust that setting. Otherwise, you may need to do that before.
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Yes it's possible. You can go to the towelroot site on your phone and click the lamda to download the apk file. Then browse to that file on your phone, install and run.
Note: You will need to have install from unknown sources checked. It may prompt during the install to adjust that setting. Otherwise, you may need to do that before.
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Yeah I got my phone towel rooted can I flash a recovery without a computer? If yes how? Thanks
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Glad you got it rooted. I'm still researching the custom rom option because everything I read says that any install of a custom recovery App will trip the knox counter. On my old AT&T S5 with a locked bootloader, I had Safestrap recovery installed which seemed to get around this issue and allow custom roms to be loaded without tripping knox.
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Glad you got it rooted. I'm still researching the custom rom option because everything I read says that any install of a custom recovery will trip the knox counter. On my old AT&T S5 with a locked bootloader, I had Safestrap recovery installed which seemed to get around this issue and allow custom roms to be loaded without tripping knox.
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I figured it out I'm using twrp. Thanks, bud.
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Too bad TWRP trips Knox as far as I understand.
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Too bad TWRP trips Knox as far as I understand.
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Lol
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I've tried many root processes without computer but all of them say my phone isn't compatible,I also have gs5 sm-g900t
HI I updated my sprint note 3 sm-n900p to 5.0 lollipop when trying to root with all the recommends it boots and stops at the sprint yellow screen did this 2 times had a hard time getting back to 5.0 again had to do a complete factory reset its back unrooted how can I root without bricking not ready to buy another phone. thanks inadvance
Cf auto root
Odin twrp then flash supersu. Very easy.
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Odin twrp then flash supersu. Very easy.
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ok I see to responses thanks which version of TWRP and version of cf-autoroot somehow i must used the wrong version of cf-autoroot cause thats what softbricked phone i dont see one for lollipop 5.0 there is one for kitkat 4.4.4
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ok I see to responses thanks which version of TWRP and version of cf-autoroot somehow i must used the wrong version of cf-autoroot cause thats what softbricked phone i dont see one for lollipop 5.0 there is one for kitkat 4.4.4
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I don't mess with cf. Never have, it's too much work when compared to just using odin to install twrp and then flash supersu. Google twrp, get the latest one for our decide, then Google supersu-update.zip and install that with twrp.
This will break your knox warranty btw.
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I don't mess with cf. Never have, it's too much work when compared to just using odin to install twrp and then flash supersu. Google twrp, get the latest one for our decide, then Google supersu-update.zip and install that with twrp.
This will break your knox warranty btw.
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thanks my knox was broke for the first root with kitkat will try that
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gtuck1002 said:
thanks my knox was broke for the first root with kitkat will try that
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thanks to all that responded finally after 3 tries with odin and twrp i'm back to root on my note 3 will this work on a note 4 that never been rooted