Hi all,
I'm current using Viper Rom on my Amaze and am finding it a bit more stable than SpeedRom which was my DD for a couple of years basically. My only issue with Viper is that I hate the HTC dialer and would like to swap out for the SpeedRom dialer which I think is AOSP but \I'm not sure.
Is it just as simple as pushing the phone.apk file from SpeedRom or is it more complex than that? Thanks in advance for your help.
Joe
Hi Joe, it's a little bit more in depth than that.
In most cases, there are dependent library files related to the system apps.
HTC sense is very complicated. Aosp is what it's based on. Honestly I haven't tried much of using anything aosp in viper.
There's also a different framework in sense that sick doesn't have.
That is why aosp has working Bluetooth and sense 4.0 and up doesn't. There's so many dependencies that need editing and you pretty much would have to be a HTC programmer to make things work.
If you can find all the files that go with the dialer, it may work.
Also, there may be an after market app on the play store that meet yells the same result you are looking for.
Chevy
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Oh, I haven't played with speedrom in a long time so I don't remember if it's sense or aosp.
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chevycowboyusa said:
Hi Joe, it's a little bit more in depth than that.
In most cases, there are dependent library files related to the system apps.
HTC sense is very complicated. Aosp is what it's based on. Honestly I haven't tried much of using anything aosp in viper.
There's also a different framework in sense that sick doesn't have.
That is why aosp has working Bluetooth and sense 4.0 and up doesn't. There's so many dependencies that need editing and you pretty much would have to be a HTC programmer to make things work.
If you can find all the files that go with the dialer, it may work.
Also, there may be an after market app on the play store that meet yells the same result you are looking for.
Chevy
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Oh, I haven't played with speedrom in a long time so I don't remember if it's sense or aosp.
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Thanks so much for the reply Chevy you are the man, I'll check out after-market options. Loving your rom, really appreciate your work!
thanks!
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Thanks so much for the reply Chevy you are the man, I'll check out after-market options. Loving your rom, really appreciate your work!
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Wait till you get a taste of sense 5!
Thanks Chevy can't wait!
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I'm a pretty basic guy with pretty basic needs. I like a certain look and functionality to my DNA. I have been debating over what my DD should be and am using Viper DNA (which completely kicks major ass good). When I mean basic I really mean it though. I keep going back and forth from the stock 2.04.605.2 710RD rooted rom and this one and I need a guide or some pointers to get what I want to get out of it. I just learned how to use ADB last week so I am new to the format, but I did manage to do the following:
SuperCID
UNLOCKED Bootloader
Root
S-Off
Blocked OTA updates
Flashed a kernel
My current setup is the updated radio of 1.01.01.0110 and the kernel for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
I think I may be making bad decisions at the install of Viper DNA because the stock rom battery lasts forever but the Viper DNA rom only lasts half as long so I must be making a mistake somewhere.
All I really want is the stock version with these simple modifications :
Basic calculator as the sense one has weird number design (ugly design really)
Aosp looking status bar like the one guichh has but with a plain vertical battery with no percent
Aosp dialer
Working mms with aosp theme as well
Everything else can stay stock. Oh and if that pesky wifi notification in the pull down will go away that would he nice.
I know there are individual fixes for these (in most cases) but one of these options (status bar) is hard to pull of without running viper tweaks so you can't really pull that off on stock.
I know every end user is different and I guess I will have to try development next to really get what I want but if there is an easier way I would appreciate any and all help.
Actually I've been really reluctant about flashing a Rom because of that. Stock battery has been so good these few days I've had the phone. So it seems like you will have to play with the tweaks on viper / try different kernels on it. One reliable Rom that you could try is newtroot's. His were always very generous on battery life on previous devices.
The theme section has a good aosp theme last I saw. Not 100% sure, I kind of like sense 4.
You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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I have heard a rumor that Viper DNA version 1.2 will be based off of the 2.04 version. I've been a beta tester for Sony for a very very long time. So I know the feeling of being sworn to secrecy. Hopefully, I will look forward to the new Viper DNA 1.2 and love it as much as you say.
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You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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No your not. Nits has said multiple times that beta testers can talk about it and post screen shots.
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I have heard a rumor that Viper DNA version 1.2 will be based off of the 2.04 version. I've been a beta tester for Sony for a very very long time. So I know the feeling of being sworn to secrecy. Hopefully, I will look forward to the new Viper DNA 1.2 and love it as much as you say.
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That's not even a rumor, that's a fact. Lol.
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No your not. Nits has said multiple times that beta testers can talk about it and post screen shots.
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That's not even a rumor, that's a fact. Lol.
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Nice to see you chime in Big Andrew. You have been most helpful to me in the past and I really appreciate your input as well as everyone else who has put up with the noob learning how to use adb. I managed to master my Thunderbolt a while back but the DNA has opened up a whole new world to me and I feel I may be annoying more than I should be. I know I ask a lot of questions and I try to learn something new every night so it may be time to crack the knuckles and dig into theming, skinning, or dare I say it, mild development to achieve what I am looking for.
If there is a way to do what I need running stock rooted with the stock kernel I will be more than happy to take a good "noob bashing" with replies that say something to the effect of this:
Okay idiot bone - step one to get your soap status bar and icons is to go to adb and do this...
Lol. I can take a good bashing. I realize that xda is a little more tech savvy than my previous forum home so I am prepared to hear comments like that....and "your village called, they want their idiot back". Lol.
Since I naively installed the update, I've been stuck on stock since November. In anticipation of finally being able to unlock, I wanted to ask which ROM I should use. Here's my requirements:
- Stock SMS app
- HTC Camera
- As much stock as possible -> people app, dialer, etc. I would prefer absolutely no Sense, but I can live with it in the Settings and stuff if necessary
- prefer 4.2, but 4.1 is acceptable
Thanks for any advice...
viper rom if you want sense 4+ still. it's the best one out there.
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What you are asking is not possible. The HTC camera depends on the htc framework. Your best bet is to flash desense viper or flash something like pac. Stock HTC camera isnt that big of a deal. There is an app on the play store that is basically the stock messaging app, but it did not work well on viper for me.
I personally hate the update to the HTC camera lol I like being able to take more then one pic at once but now u take a pic, then I have to accept it, and then it closes lol.... Way too many steps IMO
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I personally hate the update to the HTC camera lol I like being able to take more then one pic at once but now u take a pic, then I have to accept it, and then it closes lol.... Way too many steps IMO
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What are you talking about?
You may have review duration on... Turn it off, it's then instant... You can also hold down the camera button for burst mode...
I always love uninformed people just throwing incorrect info around...
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And to the OP what you're asking for is not really possible.
You can download a desensed ROM... Most of the features (not all) will be there, but it'll still be Sense.
As for 4.2.2, unless the butterfly dump gets ported, or VZW either has an update to this phone or an HTC One on the horizon, your best bet is a AOSP based ROM.
It has nothing to do with being uninformed, I've gone through the camera options multiple times and googled the crap out if it but that option just is not there for me.
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dude wtf camera do you have lol i don't even think that's an option on the stock dna camera. I'm pretty sure they even got rid of that in sense 4+....what are you running? check out that modded camera. it's great.
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I dunno lol it didn't used to be like that, it only started doing that after the last update. Where would I find the modded camera? I am not soff yet if that matters for this mod
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Ok so after everyone telling me I was the only one who with these options, I figured out the problem. I use everything.me home as my launcher and I did not realize that launch had a native built in camera lol. I feel a little silly but at least I figured it out lol
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dude wtf camera do you have lol i don't even think that's an option on the stock dna camera. I'm pretty sure they even got rid of that in sense 4+....what are you running? check out that modded camera. it's great.
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Talking to me or him? If me, which option?
If me, the problem was my launcher... Still am awesome launcher... Even though they were sneaky about the camera lol
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There's some great camera apps in the play store that are as good or better than the sense camera. I'm using camera jb+ on PAC and it's the best camera I've used. It gives me a 16:9 option too.
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Would anyone else love to see the 4.2.2 ROM ported from the Google Edition One to the DNA? I have been trying to get some sweet stock Android on my DNA for a long time and it doesn't appear there are any ROMs on here or anywhere else that would accomplish that. Is it possible?
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Would anyone else love to see the 4.2.2 ROM ported from the Google Edition One to the DNA? I have been trying to get some sweet stock Android on my DNA for a long time and it doesn't appear there are any ROMs on here or anywhere else that would accomplish that. Is it possible?
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It is the same as the Cyanogenmod!, What we would like in SENSE 5 with JB 4.2.2
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It is the same as the Cyanogenmod!, What we would like in SENSE 5 with JB 4.2.2
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Right, but isn't that still just a developmental progress? I would love CM as well but I don't think they have a stable release yet.
I really hope this phone opens up roms for our phone
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Right, but isn't that still just a developmental progress? I would love CM as well but I don't think they have a stable release yet.
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CM vs. Stock Android = two completely different roms. I want to use the CM 10.1 roms, but they don't have working BT audio yet. Maybe this phone's rom will help them get it working? The GPE rom will get tweaked and modded by the htc one community and hopefully those will be easily ported to the dna. Sense is cool and all, but I would like to free up some space on my stupid 16gb of non-expandable storage more than anything. Heck it might even get better battery life without all that htc stuff running in the background? Keeping my fingers crossed. :good:
There are plenty of stock roms. Not necessarily pure aosp, but there's cm amongst many other roms. And they are all about 99% working.
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Right, but isn't that still just a developmental progress? I would love CM as well but I don't think they have a stable release yet.
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They only thing that is messed up is that bluetooth stuff is still messed up.
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There are plenty of stock roms. Not necessarily pure aosp, but there's cm amongst many other roms. And they are all about 99% working.
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They only thing that is messed up is that bluetooth stuff is still messed up.
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Anyone working on the Google edition ROM? I understand diff but working Bluetooth is a must for me.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/17/a-stable-version-of-ubuntus-mobile-os-is-available-now/
I know we are still a community very young here in the G2 forums but I think some Ubuntu goodness would be good to have as a choice. The stable version just launched for the Nexus 4. I've no deving experience but it'd be cool if a dev could take a look and see if it's possible to do a port :fingers-crossed:
Not to burst the bubble but, at least on the N7, it's totally unstable, and unusable.
Doesn't mean development can't start. Get the groundwork in place so when the Ubuntu Touch source is more refined, then a full-fledged ROM won't be much far away.
More options is a good thing even if they have maturing to do.
Personally, I'm interested in seeing how the docking-as-a-desktop thing will perform considering the specs of this phone being so nice.
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Not to burst the bubble but, at least on the N7, it's totally unstable, and unusable.
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For what i understand, that's why they haven't officially released it for tablets yet.
bumping, because well... a man can dream!
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Buy some Unix/Linux books and start reading. Develop it yourself if it's that important to you!
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Buy some Unix/Linux books and start reading. Develop it yourself if it's that important to you!
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Awwwww.... come on.
This would be an interesting choice but I feel that Android is more touch friendly than Ubuntu would ever be.
Any development is good development.
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Ubuntu Touch's gesture based navigation seems really sweet, but the lack of apps seems worrying.
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Awwwww.... come on.
This would be an interesting choice but I feel that Android is more touch friendly than Ubuntu would ever be.
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I was under the impression that Ubuntu was more touch friendly than android what with gestures etc.
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Anyone with knowledge about ROM building and would like to take on the task @Th3Bill has been working with Ubuntu for android based products for a long time. He is currently working on Ubuntu touch for another device. He could probably give someone pointers.
I would love to try out Ubuntu touch. Been very excited about since it was first announced.
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Not to burst the bubble but, at least on the N7, it's totally unstable, and unusable.
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I was able to use it on my galaxy nexus just fine. Everything worked near flawlessly. Just couldn't make or receive phone calls or text but that's because I was on CDMA. From what I remember they have had several very stable builds on a few devices. Just no interest because of app development.
But my view on this is if its made available for more devices then eventually someone will pick up development of apps for it. The people that have say its very easy.
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Awwwww.... come on.
This would be an interesting choice but I feel that Android is more touch friendly than Ubuntu would ever be.
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While I thought the same when I started playing around with building it the other day, I will say that it's a VERY nice UI they have made. It seemed very simple to navigate.
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Anyone with knowledge about ROM building and would like to take on the task @Th3Bill has been working with Ubuntu for android based products for a long time. He is currently working on Ubuntu touch for another device. He could probably give someone pointers.
I would love to try out Ubuntu touch. Been very excited about since it was first announced.
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Ubuntu touch I'm new with...just been doing for last 2 days LOL. I have been in the Android scene for a while, though (@tsdeaton knows me from the good ol Photon).
I will say this...UT is not as simple as it seems. I've got issues with multiple things so far (pretty much, I have a nice, pretty UI with a semi-functioning camera and NO networking or sound so far), but am working at figuring out how they get this working on their native devices and hoping to reverse engineer what they did for the HTC One.
As far as their native builds, the N10 and N7 are greatly lagging behind the N4 and GNex in terms of stability. If you check out their current status of each build (I don't have a link, but a quick googling should find it), you'll get an idea of the daunting task ahead of anyone looking to make this work.
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While I thought the same when I started playing around with building it the other day, I will say that it's a VERY nice UI they have made. It seemed very simple to navigate.
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Ubuntu touch I'm new with...just been doing for last 2 days LOL. I have been in the Android scene for a while, though (@tsdeaton knows me from the good ol Photon).
I will say this...UT is not as simple as it seems. I've got issues with multiple things so far (pretty much, I have a nice, pretty UI with a semi-functioning camera and NO networking or sound so far), but am working at figuring out how they get this working on their native devices and hoping to reverse engineer what they did for the HTC One.
As far as their native builds, the N10 and N7 are greatly lagging behind the N4 and GNex in terms of stability. If you check out their current status of each build (I don't have a link, but a quick googling should find it), you'll get an idea of the daunting task ahead of anyone looking to make this work.
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I had a hell of a time even getting it to compile. Let alone run on the device. Respect to the person that takes on this task.
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I had a hell of a time even getting it to compile. Let alone run on the device. Respect to the person that takes on this task.
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Compile was not too hard...I can get that far. It looks really nice when it boots, which took all of 12 seconds on first boot. I thought it had hung on a boot animation when I realized there was a status bar...LOL. It's pretty smooth and a VERY nice UI to be honest (and I don't really like ubuntu on the PC...I'm a Mint fan myself).
It's the part where they start talking about audio and writing Alsa UCM mixer files that I get a bit lost, as they have links to what SHOULD be reference material on HiFi and VoiceCall, yet both go to "Page does not exist" pages, thus leaving the builder on their own to figure it out.
Camera and wifi I should be able to fix. Phone, data, etc...I'm not sure that will work right without a LOT of work.
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While I thought the same when I started playing around with building it the other day, I will say that it's a VERY nice UI they have made. It seemed very simple to navigate.
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Ubuntu touch I'm new with...just been doing for last 2 days LOL. I have been in the Android scene for a while, though (@tsdeaton knows me from the good ol Photon).
I will say this...UT is not as simple as it seems. I've got issues with multiple things so far (pretty much, I have a nice, pretty UI with a semi-functioning camera and NO networking or sound so far), but am working at figuring out how they get this working on their native devices and hoping to reverse engineer what they did for the HTC One.
As far as their native builds, the N10 and N7 are greatly lagging behind the N4 and GNex in terms of stability. If you check out their current status of each build (I don't have a link, but a quick googling should find it), you'll get an idea of the daunting task ahead of anyone looking to make this work.
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Haha sorry I got you and loki mixed up. But what I seen of yours is a great start for the nonbelievers. Is Loki still around? He was the one in the Ubuntu scene
Edit found him
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281528
BTW wouldn't it be interesting to have something like this set up for other devices
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Any development is good development.
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Totally agree. I would like to see how it progresses. It's nice looking already.
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im not a noob when it comes to flashing roms, using cmd or the android sdk but im noob at building roms and kernels so when would a stable 4.3/4.4 rom be available for download maybe even a sense 5 rom i would love to become a tester or help in any developments that are happening now so link them to me please
4.3 Sense 4+ and sense 5 coming soon.
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4.3 Sense 4+ and sense 5 coming soon.
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This is really a good news!
Hi chevy, i'll be happy to test those roms coming.
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Hi chevy, i'll be happy to test those roms coming.
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We'll have a beta release so everyone can play with it
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We'll have a beta release so everyone can play with it
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Excuse me.I know this is not a proper question,but I realy want to know when will the sense4+ and sense5 come? a month or longer？
Thank you for your brilliant job！
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Excuse me.I know this is not a proper question,but I realy want to know when will the sense4+ and sense5 come? a month or longer？
Thank you for your brilliant job！
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I think he will release it when he want.Maybe a New Year surprise,isn't it?@chevycowboyusa
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I think he will release it when he want.Maybe a New Year surprise,isn't it?@chevycowboyusa
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Ravike is working on the sense 4.5 and I'm working on sense 5.
The kernel is taking longer than expected, mostly beacuse he has taught himself how to work on the kernel, and has had a lot of help from sebastianfm, but repeated attempts to get help from well known other kernel devs have ignored his questions.
Hey!
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I think he will release it when he want.Maybe a New Year surprise,isn't it?@chevycowboyusa
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Hey! you're still around! Good to hear from you!
It may end up being a next year surprize!
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Hey! you're still around! Good to hear from you!
It may end up being a next year surprize!
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Yep,you still remember meNow I'm working on MIUIV5 Android 4.2.2,but data is not working,even I change framework-res.apk but it doesn't work.
Without you and your teams work,Sense4+ and Sense5 can't booting on our Amaze.So,do your best is enough[My English is bad,maybe have grammar mistakes]
Thanks Leo! @SuperAfnan might be able to help you with the broken data.
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Is miui based on aosp?
You might be able to use cm or Jeepers stuff to help get data.
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Thanks Leo! @SuperAfnan might be able to help you with the broken data.
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Is miui based on aosp?
You might be able to use cm or Jeepers stuff to help get data.
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It based on Newest CM10.1,I will upload it later and find some help
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You need to add your RIL to telephony-common.jar. So decompile your base telephony-common take all smali with RIL and phonefactory.smali and add to MIUIs then recompile
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