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Hello,
I have a LG p500 with a CM10 RC(jelly bean) and it is working great and fast.
I can buy a Xperia Sola with a good price now, but the fact that the stock rom is still GB and so far as I know no one knows for sure when the officially upgrade is coming (always postponed), is it worth my money?
The custom ICS ROMs in these forums work on Sola and if yes, are they any good?
Also I've read this in GMS Arena :
"512MB ram of which only 300MB is available at a time out of which 150MB will be consumed by its own launcher applications, so you have to deal with rest of 150 MB. Means laggy operations and hanging frequently."
Is it true?
Thanks
usamtodosomeunomepah said:
Hello,
I have a LG p500 with a CM10 RC(jelly bean) and it is working great and fast.
I can buy a Xperia Sola with a good price now, but the fact that the stock rom is still GB and so far as I know no one knows for sure when the officially upgrade is coming (always postponed), is it worth my money?
The custom ICS ROMs in these forums work on Sola and if yes, are they any good?
Also I've read this in GMS Arena :
"512MB ram of which only 300MB is available at a time out of which 150MB will be consumed by its own launcher applications, so you have to deal with rest of 150 MB. Means laggy operations and hanging frequently."
Is it true?
Thanks
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If ICS is a deal breaker i'd say go for the xperia U because it will get ICS faster and have more support.
about the ram, there is no lag at all ! you usually have 150mb free ram on stock GB ROM so i assume that on Cm9 it will be even better
I bought the xpU after having the Atrix 4G and I like it a lot more !
nathan96 said:
If ICS is a deal breaker i'd say go for the xperia U because it will get ICS faster and have more support.
about the ram, there is no lag at all ! you usually have 150mb free ram on stock GB ROM so i assume that on Cm9 it will be even better
I bought the xpU after having the Atrix 4G and I like it a lot more !
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Ok, but when will it be possible to put CM9 or 10 preferably on Sola? Only after the official ICS update?
Hello guys, I wonder if there is any custom rom for Xperia Neo V, which run the games without any lag, or at least with minimum of lags.
sorry for bad english!
vioxxter said:
Hello guys, I wonder if there is any custom rom for Xperia Neo V, which run the games without any lag, or at least with minimum of lags.
sorry for bad english!
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I haven't really tested much but as far as I know it goes like GB(Codename 9, X-GAMER) > JB(CM10, AOKP) > ICS
Imo ICS is the least optimised for gaming, but bear in mind that I haven't really done any real benchmarks so I might be wrong on this, someone should back me up first
of course GB i better for gaming but i dont have mush problem with ICS:good:
GB are the best for gaming man
u can try codename he's fast n
Stable
Of course GB because is lighter than ICS
For all the fools answers (not eveyone)
He asked ICS AND JELLY BEAN! NO GINGERBREAD.
I really dont know which one is fastest but bear in mind that JB needs more ram, and has many bugs.
it depends...
well of course it depends on what kind of games are you playing...as guys/girls said JB uses more ram and its still under development, but if you have nice tuned ics its definetely better...i sugest you to take a day off for your phone and just try roms...it cant hurt and you will find the rom that suits you best
gb, ics generates as many compatibility problems or close by themselves.
apart gives you more free RAM
there are many ICS custom roms that good for games
vioxxter said:
Hello guys, I wonder if there is any custom rom for Xperia Neo V, which run the games without any lag, or at least with minimum of lags.
sorry for bad english!
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CM9 , i.e. ICS and Jelly sandwich are pretty good RAMwise, and therefore good for playing games.
Moreover if you want a lag free gaming, close all background running apps before running games, as 512 MB is never enough RAM for gaming.
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drmann89 said:
CM9 , i.e. ICS and Jelly sandwich are pretty good RAMwise, and therefore good for playing games.
Moreover if you want a lag free gaming, close all background running apps before running games, as 512 MB is never enough RAM for gaming.
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ohh..dear....i tested in JB and ICS both....ofcourse JB has good benchmarks..
but gaming experince is same in both......remember GB is best for gaming...otherwise u can buy PS3 or XBOX
How is GB lighter than JB? Why is that?
I know that JB have some tweaks like better multitasking and that may consume ram, but shouldn't JB be as lighter as GB if you just disable everything it has working in background? I'm asking this because recetly i changed from JB to GB for better gaming experience and it's really faster in GB. Then i was wondering why can't i make JB as fast as GB even if just for about some minutes, for the gaming experience...
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How is GB lighter than JB? Why is that?
I know that JB have some tweaks like better multitasking and that may consume ram, but shouldn't JB be as lighter as GB if you just disable everything it has working in background? I'm asking this because recetly i changed from JB to GB for better gaming experience and it's really faster in GB. Then i was wondering why can't i make JB as fast as GB even if just for about some minutes, for the gaming experience...
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GB for gaming and JB for beautiful interface
Saingpor said:
GB for gaming and JB for beautiful interface
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I know that and you didn't answered none of my questions :laugh:. I would like to see a better explanation.
Greetings my dear friends.
I'm here to give my verdict on the upgrade to ICS after 2 months using the ICS Stock ROM I could finish something. Read and understand.
I have an XPERIA U ST25a retail brazilian.
Sure, the stock ICS ROM is very attractive, all good new stuff found in Android 4.0 are very good, like the new UI or settings menu, the toggles easily accessible are very useful, but the apparent instability and slowness (in moments) make me think why I bought this phone, and also think about going back to the old but great stock GB ROM.
And yes, i use ICS ROM, I made my own modifications and tweaks to the all-bloated ICS Stock ROM get the maximum performance.
But the bugs are really ridiculous.
The battery only charges sometimes if the phone is restarted, otherwise the indicator will be locked at 39%, for example.
The camera seems to be slow compared to the old Stock GingerBread ROM.
The open / close applications is not slow, but sometimes the application takes to respond as if something sucking the system performance.
All these bugs may (or may not) be Sony's problem, but since the era of my old devices I have these SAME problems in some ICS ROMs (I've also tested the FXP CM9 rom, and believe me, if you fill up with apps, will be slow too).
It seems that Android 4.0 ICS is always buggy and slow, and then Eclair 2.1 (horrible) then followed by the 2.2 Froyo (good).
My conclusion: Don't upgrade if you hate a phone will be a little bit slower.
I just do not go back to stock GB ROM why I still enjoy a good user interface instead of performance.
But if you do not like one bit of minimal slowdowns or some bugs, DO NOT bother upgrading to ICS. Just a beautiful day, we have the long awaited Jelly Bean. Even if it is a CM10, the "Butter Project" realizes disappear with lags. And all these little problems may be fixed.
I just let my experience here on this upgrade does not seem that there be a good idea.
Thank you very much
What ics firmware build number are you talking about?
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
About any ICS firmware. I've tested B.1.10, B.1.54 and C.1.10 and of these three have similar and different problems. Its a problem about android 4.0 that have been build focused on research data...
Ics is a very ram hungry ...if u have a device which has ram 512 or below that, them trust me it's best to stay at GB.. In my Xperia P ICS eats up 500MB of my ram.i am just left with 430 MB of usable memory...
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techno-np said:
Ics is a very ram hungry ...if u have a device which has ram 512 or below that, them trust me it's best to stay at GB.. In my Xperia P ICS eats up 500MB of my ram.i am just left with 430 MB of usable memory...
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But in android free ram doesn't mean more performance, lag will only appear when RAM reaches the "lag level" (30~25 free ram)
Here on my XPU i have 120~140MB free and i don't have any lag. BTW if you install a bunch of crappy apps and let the bloatware of Sony installed you will certainly will get some lag. Even on a XPP with 1GB of RAM you can feel some lags, i've already tested yet!
Yes if you say it like that.. Then yes under a microscope ICS does lag a bit.it's inevitable even the quad cores lag in ics from time to time.. But hey that's why there is JB for the rescue...
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Salo-S said:
Greetings my dear friends.
I'm here to give my verdict on the upgrade to ICS after 2 months using the ICS Stock ROM I could finish something. Read and understand.
I have an XPERIA U ST25a retail brazilian.
Sure, the stock ICS ROM is very attractive, all good new stuff found in Android 4.0 are very good, like the new UI or settings menu, the toggles easily accessible are very useful, but the apparent instability and slowness (in moments) make me think why I bought this phone, and also think about going back to the old but great stock GB ROM.
And yes, i use ICS ROM, I made my own modifications and tweaks to the all-bloated ICS Stock ROM get the maximum performance.
But the bugs are really ridiculous.
The battery only charges sometimes if the phone is restarted, otherwise the indicator will be locked at 39%, for example.
The camera seems to be slow compared to the old Stock GingerBread ROM.
The open / close applications is not slow, but sometimes the application takes to respond as if something sucking the system performance.
All these bugs may (or may not) be Sony's problem, but since the era of my old devices I have these SAME problems in some ICS ROMs (I've also tested the FXP CM9 rom, and believe me, if you fill up with apps, will be slow too).
It seems that Android 4.0 ICS is always buggy and slow, and then Eclair 2.1 (horrible) then followed by the 2.2 Froyo (good).
My conclusion: Don't upgrade if you hate a phone will be a little bit slower.
I just do not go back to stock GB ROM why I still enjoy a good user interface instead of performance.
But if you do not like one bit of minimal slowdowns or some bugs, DO NOT bother upgrading to ICS. Just a beautiful day, we have the long awaited Jelly Bean. Even if it is a CM10, the "Butter Project" realizes disappear with lags. And all these little problems may be fixed.
I just let my experience here on this upgrade does not seem that there be a good idea.
Thank you very much
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Stock ROM: go for GingerBread otherwise CM.
Rgds.
Salo-S said:
But in android free ram doesn't mean more performance, lag will only appear when RAM reaches the "lag level" (30~25 free ram)
Here on my XPU i have 120~140MB free and i don't have any lag. BTW if you install a bunch of crappy apps and let the bloatware of Sony installed you will certainly will get some lag. Even on a XPP with 1GB of RAM you can feel some lags, i've already tested yet!
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I think lag by alot of app is open. So I endtast and free ram. It Work fine with me.
I prefer the GB which is less power hungry on RAM compared to ICS.
ICS, I find it laggy.
Most games lag on ICS compared to GB.
For me, if I'll choose, I'll go for Custom ROM based on ICS(not the stock one that sony distributed). If you don't like stock ROM then I'll stick to GB because ICS consumes more RAM than GB.
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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if you are rooted you can try to overclock your device, also install custom kernels with better governors. try a search on the forum, you will get a lot of custom kernels also find ways to overclock your device.
hope i helped.
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
luci.tal said:
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
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Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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leajian said:
Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
Sent from my MT11i using xda premium
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I've just installed Greenify and I will come back with a report.Thank you
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
Jack Harper said:
Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
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Performance is a subjective term..
It varies from person to person.
Well,games do lag on our phones beyond a point and I've seen every android device lag after sometime of use while doing heavy multitasking,etc
Android OS as such needs to undergo a lot of development .
Well,you do have to pay a price for the seamless customizing option it gives us..
Bertellio said:
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another thing.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
luci.tal said:
I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another think.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
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Would recommend you to switch to Super Jelly Bean v5.o + Fusion v5.5 kernel.
And yes, avoid overclocking. I never do. And if you switch to any SJB or moAOKP v3, you'd get enormous amount of RAM that you need not overclock!
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luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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Well said. :thumbup:
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Gingerbread is the best ROM for this phone!My phone(MT15i) running with 2.3.4 GB .60 ,with adreno booster v0.6 and OC at 1,2GHZ and I can say,This is the max. of the phone!
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
luci.tal said:
I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
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Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
martirio3000 said:
Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
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You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
luci.tal said:
You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
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actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
martirio3000 said:
actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
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Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
Oh,and i have another question(about CSR Racing).When I am on stock gb or ics when i press to shift the gears it goes late(doesn't matter if i oc or not).I mean like 3 sec late.But when i am on a custom rom it changes the gear perfectly.Why is that happening?
luci.tal said:
Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
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Well it seems to be lighter and probably I guess more optimized. Ram doesnt matter for performance in this case. Gingerbead was made to work on devices with even lower ram thats why no problems excists. Also my guess is tha Jb can work on even less ram smooth enough. Ram in android is mostly occupied by cached processes which are "useless" for the Os to operate correctly.
Anyway about csr racing i know nothing ).