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Does anybody know of a way to assign a drive letter to a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1? I would like to sync a wide variety of files between it and my Windows XP PC via USB cable using third party synchronization software (2BrightSparks SyncBackSE)? The MTP supports manual drag-and-drop, but I need to enable a more sophisticated and automated syncing mechanism than that, and it has to work for all file types.
I tried FTP-based methods via WiFi (via SwiFTP), and found that it worked poorly because the file modification dates were not maintained over FTP.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
DroidMilitia said:
Does anybody know of a way to assign a drive letter to a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1? I would like to sync a wide variety of files between it and my Windows XP PC via USB cable using third party synchronization software (2BrightSparks SyncBackSE)? The MTP supports manual drag-and-drop, but I need to enable a more sophisticated and automated syncing mechanism than that, and it has to work for all file types.
I tried FTP-based methods via WiFi (via SwiFTP), and found that it worked poorly because the file modification dates were not maintained over FTP.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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windows automatically assigns the drive letter...
but i guess you could go to run:
compmgmt.msc
disk managment on the panel
right click drive
?????????
profit
mikeyrave said:
windows automatically assigns the drive letter...
but i guess you could go to run:
compmgmt.msc
disk managment on the panel
right click drive
?????????
profit
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I don't get (nor can figure out) how to map a drive under Windows 7 (64-bit). It does map the device for access but as "GT-P7510" then "Tablet" then dirs under Windows Explorer. It's not shown in Device Management either. Perhaps it's a Win7 or 64-bit driver issue/limitation?
mikeyrave said:
windows automatically assigns the drive letter...
but i guess you could go to run:
compmgmt.msc
disk managment on the panel
right click drive
?????????
profit
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Thank you for your response.
I attached an image showing how different devices show up under "My Computer" on my PC. Windows automatically assigns drive letters to USB mass storage devices. This works wonderfully for a USB hard drive (E: ) or my Motorola Droid X (G: and I: ), which is running Android 2.2.1. Unfortunately, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Running Android 3.1) is listed as a "Portable Media Player" under "My Computer" in Windows Explorer. It apparently can only be accessed by Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is different from assigning the device a drive letter. This is a huge disadvantage.
I ran Computer Management to try to change the drive letter of the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and do not have the option. I attached an image showing that also. Note that I can change the USB hard drive and Droid X drives which is what I want to do for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
cleblanc92 said:
Perhaps it's a Win7 or 64-bit driver issue/limitation?
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I have the same problem in Windows XP and Win7 32-bit. I think the issue revolves around Samsung's decision to require MTP to communicate with the tablet from a PC, and some tricks will be necessary to get around it. What we need is a way to trick Windows XP / 7 into thinking the Portable Media Device is a drive.
Please try the below
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/use-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-as-mass-storage-device-guide/
ansonantonym said:
i read somewhere that if you disable USB debugging in the device, it will be shown as a mass storage device.
Not sure though. Please try it out
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That's the only time the MTP mode will kick in (when debug is off)....but no, no driveletter access just a device.
Details on just what MTP is and why we don't easily get a Driveletter.
cleblanc92 said:
That's the only time the MTP mode will kick in (when debug is off)....but no, no driveletter access just a device.
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Sorry. i edited my above post . Please try that method and post here if it works
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Sorry. i edited my above post . Please try that method and post here if it works
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Funny I just started that install..
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Sorry. i edited my above post . Please try that method and post here if it works
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Tried and failed. The method described on the addictivetips website does not actually make the Galaxy Tab 10.1 show up as a USB Mass Storage Device, as the page claims. It just enables the Personal Media Player, i.e., MTP mode, which is where we were when we started this thread.
DroidMilitia said:
Tried and failed. The method described on the addictivetips website does not actually make the Galaxy Tab 10.1 show up as a USB Mass Storage Device, as the page claims. It just enables the Personal Media Player, i.e., MTP mode, which is where we were when we started this thread.
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2nd that result here.
DroidMilitia said:
Tried and failed. The method described on the addictivetips website does not actually make the Galaxy Tab 10.1 show up as a USB Mass Storage Device, as the page claims. It just enables the Personal Media Player, i.e., MTP mode, which is where we were when we started this thread.
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You need to have latest version of kies installed also. you don't need to use kies but is just active in the background and displayed on screen of tab.
Read this thread for more details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128220
This thread is about the fact that the [OP] was trying to find a way to map a driveletter. MTP IS WORKING for us, but we both were hunting for a way/app/tool/cmd/hack to get better windows-drive access -IF- there was a way to obtain it.
We don't need to keep trying drivers and steps that provide the same MTP access we started with. I think this fact got lost so I am restating here.
Seems like a Windows vs Linux limitation so unless there is new info on that aspect I guess we are done here.
cleblanc92 said:
This thread is about the fact that the [OP] was trying to find a way to map a driveletter. MTP IS WORKING for us, but we both were hunting for a way/app/tool/cmd/hack to get better windows-drive access -IF- there was a way to obtain it.
We don't need to keep trying drivers and steps that provide the same MTP access we started with. I think this fact got lost so I am restating here.
Seems like a Windows vs Linux limitation so unless there is new info on that aspect I guess we are done here.
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Well put!
To clear this up for future readers of this thread or potential Galaxy Tab 10.1 buyers I would like to add that the fact that one can "see" the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the "My Computer" file menu does not mean that it is accessible as a drive. That means that generalized, high-quality, business-grade synchronization software such as SyncBackSE (i.e., non-Kies) that operates on all files rather than just pictures, books, videos, and podcasts, does not work.
Practically, this means that if you bought the tablet because you wanted a tool for easily accessing and reviewing .ppt, .doc, .pdf, .html, .xls, etc., files and you want to easily and quickly sync them with your desktop PC over USB with a single click, you've got a problem. I can sync my Droid X with my PC using SyncBackSE with a single click because Windows sees it as a drive. That makes me happy, as my desktop PC is then effectively in my pocket. Apparently I cannot do that with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, which bums me out.
Maybe I should return my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, get an iPad 2, jailbreak it, and try using iPhone Explorer. Maybe that would solve the problem, but that is another thread in another forum.
I know its not a solution but using Dropbox to sync documents could remove the need to do this. If you want to look at .ppt, .doc etc files then this could allow syncing without wires.
Just an idea
DroidMilitia said:
Well put!
To clear this up for future readers of this thread or potential Galaxy Tab 10.1 buyers I would like to add that the fact that one can "see" the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the "My Computer" file menu does not mean that it is accessible as a drive. That means that generalized, high-quality, business-grade synchronization software such as SyncBackSE (i.e., non-Kies) that operates on all files rather than just pictures, books, videos, and podcasts, does not work.
Practically, this means that if you bought the tablet because you wanted a tool for easily accessing and reviewing .ppt, .doc, .pdf, .html, .xls, etc., files and you want to easily and quickly sync them with your desktop PC over USB with a single click, you've got a problem. I can sync my Droid X with my PC using SyncBackSE with a single click because Windows sees it as a drive. That makes me happy, as my desktop PC is then effectively in my pocket. Apparently I cannot do that with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, which bums me out.
Maybe I should return my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, get an iPad 2, jailbreak it, and try using iPhone Explorer. Maybe that would solve the problem, but that is another thread in another forum.
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I think it's just an ease-of-use complaint. I can connect my Android phone to my PC, it gets a driveletter, and I can use ANY Windows program to push or pull content as I please. I can not do that with my tab because of this limitation. Alas, (sigh) an real SD-Card would have addressed this.
GT10.1x2 for the win perhaps??
therealpure said:
I know its not a solution but using Dropbox to sync documents could remove the need to do this. If you want to look at .ppt, .doc etc files then this could allow syncing without wires.
Just an idea
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Thank you for the suggestion and the acknowledgement that you understand the problem. It's a decent idea, and there are similar options such as SugarSync that I have also tried. Syncing via FTP would work fine if the files maintained their modification dates, and I haven't found an FTP server app that handles that.
DropBox costs $9.99 per month for between 2 and 50 GB worth of files, and I bought the 32-GB Galaxy Tab 10.1 since I have 20 GB of files that I want to put on it. The principle of payin' for syncin' bothers me. I don't want to pay a monthly fee so that I can sync my files between my PC and my tablet. To me that's like paying a monthly fee for the ability to move my paper books from one wooden shelf to another in my office. I own both shelves and I own the books. Wouldn't I have to be a sucker to pay for the ability to transfer them between shelves? I understand that real books are not electrical signals and cannot be transported over the air or through wires, I'm talking about moving, not syncing, I don't own the wires or the WiFi terminals, etc. I get it. It's just an attempt at a real-world analogy.
Iam using the samba server app to copy files to my tab
Edit: this one, you need to be rooted
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&feature=search_result
claudekenni said:
Iam using the samba server app to copy files to my tab
Edit: this one, you need to be rooted
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&feature=search_result
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I don't think it will help with my (rare) case as I work from home and VPN into the corp office. I can't use WIFI for this type of sharing and the VPN adapter is the only network possible on the device at that time. Just another limitation that is a factor is a solution
I imaging this could work well otherwise. Thanks for the suggestion as I am sure others may benefit.
I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with the ASTRO browser installed and 20 GB of files on the sdcard. Does anybody know of a search app that will enable me to search the entire sdcard quickly, as one would do with Google desktop or Copernic?
DroidMilitia said:
I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with the ASTRO browser installed and 20 GB of files on the sdcard. Does anybody know of a search app that will enable me to search the entire sdcard quickly, as one would do with Google desktop or Copernic?
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Do you mean on the tab or from the PC?
If you talking about the Market app "Astro File Manager", it searches the SDCard very quickly from the tab. Give some more info and I'd bet you will get some better answers.
We where discussing the lack of drive-letter access in this thread, so searches from PC's are going to be limited to "if" the search tool can even access a Windows Media Device. I don't know of a way to do that....but some one will chime in if they do I'm sure.
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I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with the ASTRO browser installed and 20 GB of files on the sdcard. Does anybody know of a search app that will enable me to search the entire sdcard quickly, as one would do with Google desktop or Copernic?
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There is a search magnifying glass in the toolbars in the Astro file manager?
cleblanc92 said:
Do you mean on the tab or from the PC?
If you talking about the Market app "Astro File Manager", it searches the SDCard very quickly from the tab. Give some more info and I'd bet you will get some better answers.
We where discussing the lack of drive-letter access in this thread, so searches from PC's are going to be limited to "if" the search tool can even access a Windows Media Device. I don't know of a way to do that....but some one will chime in if they do I'm sure.
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There is a search magnifying glass in the toolbars in the Astro file manager?
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I'm referring to the Astro File Manager, and I'm interested in searching the sdcard from the tablet. Since my sdcard contains a synced copy of all of my desktop PC files, I have no need to search the tablet from the PC. If I'm sitting at my PC, I'll just search the PC. Astro searches the tablet, but not quickly. Astro takes about 1 minute to search my sdcard when I search through file names only, and the search returns no results when I use the "Find text in file" option, which is not helpful. I've been spoiled by Google, Copernic, and Windows 7 and now find waiting so long for a search that only checks file names to be retro in a bad way.
I'll give a practical example to supply more info about why I asked the question. Thanks to this thread I had my tablet with me (with all of my documents on the sdcard) at a meeting yesterday and somebody had a question about a file from two years ago. I couldn't remember which directory the file was in or what it was named, and was unable to track it down with the Astro search or by browsing. After about a minute of poking around, the moment had passed and we gave up and moved on to the next topic. I went back to my office and found the file in about 2 seconds on my desktop PC using the Copernic desktop search tool, which I think is awesome. I would like to be able to do the same thing with my tablet, i.e., have an indexed search engine for the sdcard on it. Had I found the file quickly at the meeting, we could have resolved the issue on the spot instead of putting it on the agenda for the next meeting.
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I'm referring to the Astro File Manager, and I'm interested in searching the sdcard from the tablet. Since my sdcard contains a synced copy of all of my desktop PC files, I have no need to search the tablet from the PC. If I'm sitting at my PC, I'll just search the PC. Astro searches the tablet, but not quickly. Astro takes about 1 minute to search my sdcard when I search through file names only, and the search returns no results when I use the "Find text in file" option, which is not helpful. I've been spoiled by Google, Copernic, and Windows 7 and now find waiting so long for a search that only checks file names to be retro in a bad way.
I'll give a practical example to supply more info about why I asked the question. Thanks to this thread I had my tablet with me (with all of my documents on the sdcard) at a meeting yesterday and somebody had a question about a file from two years ago. I couldn't remember which directory the file was in or what it was named, and was unable to track it down with the Astro search or by browsing. After about a minute of poking around, the moment had passed and we gave up and moved on to the next topic. I went back to my office and found the file in about 2 seconds on my desktop PC using the Copernic desktop search tool, which I think is awesome. I would like to be able to do the same thing with my tablet, i.e., have an indexed search engine for the sdcard on it. Had I found the file quickly at the meeting, we could have resolved the issue on the spot instead of putting it on the agenda for the next meeting.
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Trying to do a similar thing, i would be extremely interested by a solution too.
By curiosity, what program do you use for syncing purpose? SugarSync?
Edit : just see the thread you linked in your previous post. You can try sugarsync, seems very promising and easy, and 5go is enough to carry all my work.
I wonder if it exists another solution with our own server maybe?
Sichroteph said:
Trying to do a similar thing, i would be extremely interested by a solution too.
By curiosity, what program do you use for syncing purpose? SugarSync?
Edit : just see the thread you linked in your previous post. You can try sugarsync, seems very promising and easy, and 5go is enough to carry all my work.
I wonder if it exists another solution with our own server maybe?
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Sorry about the slow response. I tried SugarSync and it wasn't my thing. 5 GB of free space was not enough. 30 GB was $4.99 per month and I'm way too cheap and stubborn for that. Although price really isn't that much, I decided I would find a way to sync my files between two devices with no monthly free, period. Special thanks to the Samba developers for making that possible.
In a moment of madness the other day, I ordered one of these devices. I've had some experience of Android on an HTC Wildfire & Archos 101 so thought it would be a relatively safe bet. But oh no.
Can't find a way to access photos on a Windows Media Connect server with the supplied apps & of course, there's no user guide supplied. Look online & the current user guide is for Gingerbread when the device has Froyo. So I thought I'd check & see if Gingerbread has been released in the UK & if that made any difference. Dear old Samsung can't be like other manufacturers & provide a simple "check for software update" in the settings menu, that would be far too simple. No, you need to download & install a Windows program & update via USB. Now while a PITA, would be just about acceptable if Samsung had ever in their history written a decent piece of Windows software - which they haven't. PC Studio & Emodio being two examples of flaky software with pigeon English. So no surprise whatsoever when Kies proves to be yet another piece of ****.
Anyone have any idea why Kies can't establish a USB connection to W7 despite the mass storage device connecting fine? Just sits there trying to connect. No errors, no timeout, just sits there.
When posting here, you really need to post your variant... 4.0 or 5.0?
I'm surprised you're still on Froyo - usually it's United States customers that get screwed on updates but both the 4.0 and 5.0 are on Gingerbread I'm fairly certain.
Apologies, too busy ranting, it's 5.0.
After trying an XP machine with another USB cable I've discovered that the device has to be manually placed into Kies mode under Settings > USB. Again, why can't they just prompt when the USB is connected like other manufacturers?!
Anyway, so now I finally have Kies running & it tells me that despite the current online manual being for Gingerbread, Froyo is the latest available. Think I'll just give up, send it back & write a big note to self never to buy anything from Samsung again.
"Anyone have any idea why Kies can't establish a USB connection to W7 despite the mass storage device connecting fine?"
Yes, because you have to set the USB mode to KIES mode. That is for Gingerbread; I do not know if that is the case for Froyo, or why you have the old system.
I have a 5.0, never used Kies and don't plan to. USB set on "Mass Storage", connects with USB instantly. I'm on W7. Must used USB cable provided (unless you're lucky and found another that works, many don't). Never used Media Connect, can't help you there, I just dragged all my MP3 into the extrernal SD card.
crocodile said:
In a moment of madness the other day, I ordered one of these devices. I've had some experience of Android on an HTC Wildfire & Archos 101 so thought it would be a relatively safe bet. But oh no.
Can't find a way to access photos on a Windows Media Connect server with the supplied apps & of course, there's no user guide supplied. Look online & the current user guide is for Gingerbread when the device has Froyo. So I thought I'd check & see if Gingerbread has been released in the UK & if that made any difference. Dear old Samsung can't be like other manufacturers & provide a simple "check for software update" in the settings menu, that would be far too simple. No, you need to download & install a Windows program & update via USB. Now while a PITA, would be just about acceptable if Samsung had ever in their history written a decent piece of Windows software - which they haven't. PC Studio & Emodio being two examples of flaky software with pigeon English. So no surprise whatsoever when Kies proves to be yet another piece of ****.
Anyone have any idea why Kies can't establish a USB connection to W7 despite the mass storage device connecting fine? Just sits there trying to connect. No errors, no timeout, just sits there.
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I have a 5.0 from the UK as well and the 2.3.5 Gingerbread ODIN version posted in the Android Dev section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389809) works fine on our devices. It even saves you the hassle of using Kies which is a giant pain.
As for Windows Media Connect, not exactly sure what protocol it uses but you may have some luck with the AllShare app provided by Samsung (unsure if it was included in the Froyo version but it is definitely standard in Gingerbread.) Hope you have some luck as it really is a great device once you get past the initial humps. Let us know how it goes.
Thanks guys.
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Yes, because you have to set the USB mode to KIES mode. That is for Gingerbread; I do not know if that is the case for Froyo, or why you have the old system.
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Worked that out in the end thanks. According to this thread, Gingerbread isn't released in the UK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362386
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I have a 5.0 from the UK as well ..
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Seen the Odin option but don't really want to start hacking in case it does need to go back. Haven't looked to see if Odin can revert back to Froyo. If it can I may give it a go but hearing reports that Gingerbread knackers the GPS receiver.
AFAIK, Media Connect is just another DLNA. The Gallery app seems to have no option to view anything on the LAN & AllShare seems to be limited to creating AV playlists. It can't view photos & every video file on my server is apparently in an "unsupported format"!
The hardware seems decent enough but I'm not sure I have the will or desire to source replacements for every pre-installed app. My worry going forward is that Samsung pull their usual stunt of "Here's a new model, we don't have to bother with the (6 month) old one now"...
I use File Expert to view/move files/pictures on my home PC, does a wireless connection (as do many explorers). FX File Explorer is also nice (as well as Astro and ES Strong). Most pre-installed apps on any device have much better free counter parts. I don't think I'm use anything that came with the phone (other than system stuff), and I'm not rooted (yet)... but will be so I can get rid of it all for good. Although there's tons of app space, so doesn't bother me much at the moment.
Music Player: Cubed
File Explorer: File Expert
Tasks: Any.do
Calls: GrooveIP
Mail: K9
Photos: Quickpic
Texting: Google Voice
Camera: Camera Zoom
Apps:: Appbrain
Calendar: Yes I am using default calendar! (with Simple Cal Widget)
Kindle Reader
Not much there that came with it!
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I have a 5.0, never used Kies and don't plan to. USB set on "Mass Storage", connects with USB instantly. I'm on W7. Must used USB cable provided (unless you're lucky and found another that works, many don't). Never used Media Connect, can't help you there, I just dragged all my MP3 into the extrernal SD card.
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All of my USB cables work with the device (from N900, N950, various other phones) so I'm not sure why people have troubles with this. But I may just be lucky.
Re Windows Media Connect server, does the pre-installed app called "AllShare" not work?
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Re Windows Media Connect server, does the pre-installed app called "AllShare" not work?
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AllShare seems to be limited to creating AV playlists. It can't view photos & every video file on my server is apparently in an "unsupported format"!
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Can't be sure without any proper documentation but it appears to be limited as above.
I'm really not sure the device offers enough to make the effort of rooting in order to uninstall all the garbage worth while.
I'd like to think that the lack of an official Gingerbread release means Samsung are working on fixing the bugs. But my previous experience of their products makes me think otherwise.
Lack of Gingerbread is more likely something weird that's UK-specific... In the US, it's been Gingerbread from the beginning and I think international devices in the rest of the world are too.
I have never had good results with UPnP media format support on any device - even my PS3 is really damn finicky. However it's annoying that the G70 seems to have issues with UPnP streaming of stuff it plays locally.
I rarely view photos on my phone and haven't ever done it on the player, but in my case I have a Smugmug account so I just browse my galleries that way.
It seems like unfortunately your usage patterns are in a corner case where the device doesn't do so well. UPnP support is kinda "meh" - but as I said I've never seen any device where it wasn't. An iPod touch would probably do just as badly trying to browse photos via UPnP.
AllShare plays my HD video files on my server
"AllShare seems to be limited to creating AV playlists. It can't view photos & every video file on my server is apparently in an "unsupported format"!"
I have used AllShare. It sees all of my video files files on my server (just a home computer that shares). And I have played 640x480 AVI video files and a 720p wmv video file from my server smooth as butter and with great resolution on the SGP. It will not stream or play 1080p video files, however (which is in accord with the specs).
For what it's worth, I have no 720 files never mind 1080. AllShare can see them all (a mixture of AVI & MPG mostly) but won't play them. However, I can create a shortcut to them with ES FIle Explorer & play them all fine with Rockplayer. Guess I need to find a photo viewer than can do the same.
Hi all...
I've been searching for an app or a way to be able to access the shared folders of my desktop PC in my android mobile (Huawei U8650 not rooted) and my tablet (Acer A100 also not rooted).
I want to be able to watch my movies in the shared folders or read my ebooks like I do from my laptop.The PC is connected with a wifi rooter as all the rest devices. Since the laptops can access the shared files, I guess my android devices should also be able to do it... but how...?
Does anybody know a way... a simple and 'stable' way...
cant believe none has posted a reply for you yet, but anyway download ES File Explorer
you can use this ref to setup
http://www.guidingtech.com/10885/access-shared-windows-folders-android-wifi/
It does the job but is slow. I've tried download music/movies over from shared folder and it takes ages - and sometimes just stalls in the middle and you can do nothing about it.
while sometimes it can do a good job. bit of a hit and a miss really, for large files - definitely a miss.
Thanx for the reply...
I got it..
Sent from my A100 using Tapatalk
I use this and it does have issues but for me, they are to do with using multiple files (moving, deleting, etc). For movies and music, it works just fine.
Although I use UPNPlay for music.
When I download a DRM free mp3 like from openbsdorg/lyricshtml, using a browser, it arrives in the Download folder. I can then see it with the included ap "Downloads". If I click on it, it plays just great.
When I sftp the same file into the Download folder with Turbo Client it shows up fine in the in the "local" view provided by that ap. I can also see other files that I previously downloaded normally (using a browser) sitting beside it.
However, when I exit the Turbo Client, and try to view the file name with the built in Downloads ap, the file name is invisible, and obviously I can't play it either.
What is the difference between the files in the two cases? Is there an additional info file parallel the mp3 data file when I use the standard download process? If I go back into Turbo Client, I can still see the file that was sftp'd into the folder. It is still there. That's why I suspect additional information needs to be stored somewhere.
Can I avoid learning a whole new operating system for what is supposed to be a consumer friendly device?
How can I create the additional information that is needed?
AustinHook said:
When I download a DRM free mp3 like from openbsdorg/lyricshtml, using a browser, it arrives in the Download folder. I can then see it with the included ap "Downloads". If I click on it, it plays just great.
When I sftp the same file into the Download folder with Turbo Client it shows up fine in the in the "local" view provided by that ap. I can also see other files that I previously downloaded normally (using a browser) sitting beside it.
However, when I exit the Turbo Client, and try to view the file name with the built in Downloads ap, the file name is invisible, and obviously I can't play it either.
What is the difference between the files in the two cases? Is there an additional info file parallel the mp3 data file when I use the standard download process? If I go back into Turbo Client, I can still see the file that was sftp'd into the folder. It is still there. That's why I suspect additional information needs to be stored somewhere.
Can I avoid learning a whole new operating system for what is supposed to be a consumer friendly device?
How can I create the additional information that is needed?
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Have you tried seeking help from the developer of Turbo Client? He seems very open to support requests according to his thread on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023646). I feel like this issue you are having is more closely related to the app you are using and not so much the device, so this forum probably is not the ideal place to pose your question.
Download vs SFTP file visibility question
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Have you tried seeking help from the developer of Turbo Client? He seems very open to support requests according to his thread on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023646). I feel like this issue you are having is more closely related to the app you are using and not so much the device, so this forum probably is not the ideal place to pose your question.
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Thanks. I have now posted on his forum as well, however, I have the feeling it is a generic issue, relating to the move to more Apple like total control of use of the device. My HTC ONE X+ is Android 4.1.1 (I should have mentioned earlier). I only resorted to sftp because I couldn't mount it as an SD drive. I am coming from an HTC Desire running Android 2.2 where I could just mount the device like a memory stick. That was nice. Now under Jelly Bean it seems there is an intent to take away user control. This is rotten. I'm not a cell phone guru. I don't want to have to learn about "rooting" the device, reflashing the ROM or whatever, I just want to use what should be a consumer friendly device, but I suspect an attempt to redefine the meaning of consumer friendly, to make us jump all kinds of hoops to get straight forward access to the data it deals with.
I'm sorry you've been having such trouble, but your skepticism regarding MTP (this has been Android's internal storage standard since ICS) is quite unfounded. An Android engineer talks about it a little more in this reddit post, but the general idea is MTP was done to make things easier, not harder, and you should most certainly still be able to access your device's storage by plugging it into your computer. You should be able to do this "out-of-the-box" so to speak, without rooting or unlocking the device. You might, however, need to install the necessary drivers for your phone. Android is all about giving the user a healthy amount of control over their device and what files come and go from it (to a certain degree), though I'm not sure I can say the same thing for HTC Sense...
edit: upon reading your post in the other thread, I think I understand your issue. The developer's response was unfortunately not terribly informative for someone who is not well-versed with Android. In order to access your mp3 files you will need to download a file browser app from the Play Store (like this one ) and navigate to your sdcard/Downloads folder.
I probably should have read your post a little more clearly, particularly where you mentioned you were trying to view the files with the Downloads app