Was reading new features offered on Kit Kat, and it mentioned wallet, so I went to google play and google wallet pops up on my T-mobile HTC One. I thought due to security reason T-mobile could not use wallet but Sprint, but it is nice to see wallet can be installed on our phone now. Sharing this info if you haven't tried it yet.
Google Wallet is available on all android devices now. BUT you can not use it to pay for stuff at point of service locations using NFC. That part of the secure element is still being blocked by the carriers.
Google Wallet will let you do other stuff besides just pay at a POS machine. But i dont know what they are. I think you can send money to someone, and check your google play transactions.
That's either not accurate or I'm just lucky because I specifically went with a ported ROM at first to get TAP working again and with the stock 4.4.2 update I can still use TAP. I believe Google bypassed those secure element restrictions previously offered only by Sprint devices so we can all use it. I came from Sprint and used Wallet for over a year and I was pissed when I learned there was nothing I could do till KK because available.
IAmSixNine said:
Google Wallet is available on all android devices now. BUT you can not use it to pay for stuff at point of service locations using NFC. That part of the secure element is still being blocked by the carriers.
Google Wallet will let you do other stuff besides just pay at a POS machine. But i dont know what they are. I think you can send money to someone, and check your google play transactions.
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When I looked a few days ago, Google's list of phones that can tap to pay includes only the Sprint version of the One.
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Billpo said:
When I looked a few days ago, Google's list of phones that can tap to pay includes only the Sprint version of the One.
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It installed on my TMO HTC One, although I haven't done more than just open it and look around.
Actually to clear up a few things as of android 4.4 and above all devices with NFC can use google wallet just fine including tap and pay. Google wallet no longer requires the secure element as before it's all emulated now. I been using it for a few months now on my htc one from tmobile.
Lobo Lansky said:
Actually to clear up a few things as of android 4.4 and above all devices with NFC can use google wallet just fine including tap and pay. Google wallet no longer requires the secure element as before it's all emulated now. I been using it for a few months now on my htc one from tmobile.
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Feel free to give us more info. Or instructions.
I have a stock HTC One, Stock Note 3 Both TMO and Nexus 5.
The Nexus 5 Wallet app allows me to pay via tap and pay using the wallet app. However the other 2 devices allow me to load the app but NOT use it for tap and pay.
IAmSixNine said:
Feel free to give us more info. Or instructions.
I have a stock HTC One, Stock Note 3 Both TMO and Nexus 5.
The Nexus 5 Wallet app allows me to pay via tap and pay using the wallet app. However the other 2 devices allow me to load the app but NOT use it for tap and pay.
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the Note 3 wont be able to use the tap and pay feature because they are using a different NFC chip as the nexus 5 and HTC Ones. once google integrates it with KK, then it should be able to work.
the TMO htc one does work as i tried it when i converted it to GPE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2671654
check out that link for more info
ghost_231 said:
the Note 3 wont be able to use the tap and pay feature because they are using a different NFC chip as the nexus 5 and HTC Ones. once google integrates it with KK, then it should be able to work.
the TMO htc one does work as i tried it when i converted it to GPE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2671654
check out that link for more info
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Well there you go. Your NOT using a T-Mobile HTC One with Wallet.
When you converted it to the GPe you got rid of the T-Mobile blocking software, and its NO longer a T-Mobile HTC One. It is now a Google Play Edition HTC One and that unit does work with tap and pay with Google Wallet.
So back to my original statement. The T-Mobile HTC One can not use tap and pay with Google Wallet. Its still a true statement.
I think your wrong still, I work for T-Mobile and I updated and installed KK on our demo unit. Tap and pay is in fact confirmed to be working.
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ghost_231 said:
I think your wrong still, I work for T-Mobile and I updated and installed KK on our demo unit. Tap and pay is in fact confirmed to be working.
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Interesting.
I wiped my cache from the recovery and enabled NFC again and NOW google wallet does give me the option to use Tap and Pay. But only on the HTC One.. The Note 3 still has it blocked.. Very cool. So now my Nexus 5 and HTC One can do it..
I cant argue anymore. Now i can agree it does work (at least now its giving me an option to use it like its supposed to). Ill test it out as soon as i go to a place that uses it.
IAmSixNine said:
Interesting.
I wiped my cache from the recovery and enabled NFC again and NOW google wallet does give me the option to use Tap and Pay. But only on the HTC One.. The Note 3 still has it blocked.. Very cool. So now my Nexus 5 and HTC One can do it..
I cant argue anymore. Now i can agree it does work (at least now its giving me an option to use it like its supposed to). Ill test it out as soon as i go to a place that uses it.
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In order for it to work on your note 3 make sure it's updated to latest kit kat
Lobo Lansky said:
In order for it to work on your note 3 make sure it's updated to latest kit kat
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My Note 3 is updated. Running official OTA 4.4.2.
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Does anyone know if Google Wallet can be used on AT&T's Galaxy Note? I have the NFC chip enabled and Google Wallet is installed but something - I'm guessing AT&T - is blocking it... Is there any way to get this running?
Alternatively, if Google Wallet cannot be run, does anyone know where to get a version of the ISIS (PayWithISIS) Mobile Wallet? They were testing it at SXSW and both TX and UT are test markets. Just wondering if anyone knows where to get the apk.
Thanks
Does any one have working Google Wallet for AT&T Galaxy Note?
If yes please let me know..
Yah our Note is not yet being supported for GW. My guess is that we will have to wait once the official ICS OTA is out from at&t.
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Does anyone know if Google Wallet can be used on AT&T's Galaxy Note? I have the NFC chip enabled and Google Wallet is installed but something - I'm guessing AT&T - is blocking it... Is there any way to get this running?
Alternatively, if Google Wallet cannot be run, does anyone know where to get a version of the ISIS (PayWithISIS) Mobile Wallet? They were testing it at SXSW and both TX and UT are test markets. Just wondering if anyone knows where to get the apk.
Thanks
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Are you rooted? In that case it won't work. I also read we're missing a "secure element" chip, whatever that is. At&t basically set it so you will have to go through their Isis system... or so I've read
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I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
davidetkin511 said:
I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
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Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
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Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
davidetkin511 said:
Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
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You will need a new SIM, there is an encryption method used by Isis stored on the SIM.
With the recent update, is it possible that a new sim card (like maybe the one that works with Isis) would allow the tap to pay feature?
In order to use Google wallet, you need NFC, but not a different SIM card
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I was just chatting with Verizon, and asked why Google Wallet would not tap n pay, he said I needed a NFC Sim card. He is sending me one at no charge. What is the difference between the NFC sim and the NFC battery? Why was the S4 not shipped with a nfc sim? I am not even sure if this will work... will let you know.
Thanks! Keep us updated.
The SIM card that Verizon sends you is for their app that they use for mobile transactions, is is. You need a special SIM for that to work. For Google wallet, you don't need that. All you need is a NFL capable device and you are good to go!
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As with past experiences with Big Red I am not surprised that the customer service rep has no clue as to the actual service they offer. I have installed the new Google Wallet on my S4, with the NFC battery that came with the phone ( maybe someone can explain to me what the battery has to do with NFC? ). But I dont see an option to use tap n pay. I am rooted with Safestrap, and was contemplating installing the mod for GW, but now I see it has been abandoned. If I am missing something, maybe someone could point me in the right direction? I will get the sim that I ordered when I return from vacation, but I doubt it will have any effect. Would there be any other benefit from using the different sim card?
P.S. I would like to see this NFL sim card...
edlowjr said:
As with past experiences with Big Red I am not surprised that the customer service rep has no clue as to the actual service they offer. I have installed the new Google Wallet on my S4, with the NFC battery that came with the phone ( maybe someone can explain to me what the battery has to do with NFC? ). But I dont see an option to use tap n pay. I am rooted with Safestrap, and was contemplating installing the mod for GW, but now I see it has been abandoned. If I am missing something, maybe someone could point me in the right direction? I will get the sim that I ordered when I return from vacation, but I doubt it will have any effect. Would there be any other benefit from using the different sim card?
P.S. I would like to see this NFL sim card...
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Since you are rooted and have SS installed you can install a functional tap to pay by 2 different methods. I have provided links to both methods below. The older method appears to be more stable. Hope that helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303325
Older method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
Newer method
If you look at the thread with Gw 2 they have abandoned it... GW 1 is still buggy...
I have been using the 1st version due a while now an it has been working flawlessly
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I just downloaded google wallet and added my debit card. Is it really as simple as just enabling NFC and tapping and paying? I've never used it before.
Mods: please move to Q/A. Wasnt paying attention when I posted.
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I'm pretty sure this is blocked on Verizon.
Really? Why would you say that when NFC works with everything else?
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keynith said:
I just downloaded google wallet and added my debit card. Is it really as simple as just enabling NFC and tapping and paying? I've never used it before.
Mods: please move to Q/A. Wasnt paying attention when I posted.
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I used it 2 times on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I got it to work at one McDonald, but it wouldn't at another one. You'll need to find places that will accept Google Wallet. One app I use to find those places is MasterCard PayPass Locator.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mastercard.paypass
To find out more on Google Wallet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wallet
daddyd302 said:
I used it 2 times on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I got it to work at one McDonald, but it wouldn't at another one. You'll need to find places that will accept Google Wallet. One app I use to find those places is MasterCard PayPass Locator.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mastercard.paypass
To find out more on Google Wallet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wallet
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Yeah i checked and Verizon disabked it.
Mod please close thread
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It was blocked on the Note 2 also but there were work arounds to get it working by editing build.prop to mimic a Galaxy Nexus (only Verizon phone that wallet is allowed on AFAIK). I still have Wallet working on my Note 2 with this hack and used it quite frequently but it requires root of course.
Once we get root on Note 3 I imagine it won't be long before we'll get a Wallet thread with a work around.
What's the trick on T-Mobile LG V60 to get visual voicemail on the stock Android App? I even have the beta Google Phone app installed and no luck.
BlackKnight23 said:
What's the trick on T-Mobile LG V60 to get visual voicemail on the stock Android App? I even have the beta Google Phone app installed and no luck.
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Whoa I didn't know it was s thing. I gotta look more into this.
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Whoa I didn't know it was s thing. I gotta look more into this.
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https://www.change.org/p/t-mobile-c...mpaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition
Feel free to sign.
I use Google's Phone app/dialer on AT&T and don't have access to the native AOSP VVM app.
Hell, AT&T's own VVM app "isn't compatible" which this phone, according to the Google Play Store. And I bought the phone from AT&T. This isn't an unbranded or open-market model.
For now, I just installed the most recent AT&T VVM app from APKMirror, and that seems to be working fine. I'd love to be able to replace it with the stock Android VVM just to compare features and out of curiosity, if nothing else.
But alas, it seems as if its been AT&T's policy to force users to use their own VVM app a stock default (even if they don't actually start supporting their newest devices until weeks or months after release)!
I would guess there's a similar policy in place with T-Mo.
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I use Google's Phone app/dialer on AT&T and don't have access to the native AOSP VVM app.
Hell, AT&T's own VVM app "isn't compatible" which this phone, according to the Google Play Store. And I bought the phone from AT&T. This isn't an unbranded or open-market model.
For now, I just installed the most recent AT&T VVM app from APKMirror, and that seems to be working fine. I'd love to be able to replace it with the stock Android VVM just to compare features and out of curiosity, if nothing else.
But alas, it seems as if its been AT&T's policy to force users to use their own VVM app a stock default (even if they don't actually start supporting their newest devices until weeks or months after release)!
I would guess there's a similar policy in place with T-Mo.
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What device? Google Pixel and OnePlus doesn't have this issue. I have beta Google Phone App and it won't work with my LG V60 at all
BlackKnight23 said:
What device? Google Pixel and OnePlus doesn't have this issue. I have beta Google Phone App and it won't work with my LG V60 at all
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I don't understand your question. I'm talking about my AT&T-bought LG V60.
It doesn't support AT&T's own VVM app (according to the Google Play Store, "device incompatible").
And it's AT&T's general policy to not allow the stock ASOP VVM on most Android devices (iPhones are completely exempt).
At least it was. If something's changed in the past year or two, I certainly don't see it reflected on my phone.
I had to go to APKMirror to get AT&T's VVM app on this phone, which is ridiculous, but not unusual.
I had to do the same for my old LG V30 until AT&T finally released a new version of their VVM app on the Google Play Store that worked on the V30.
As for the Google Phone app, I have it installed on my V60 and set up as my primary phone app/dialer, and it works fine. It just doesn't have the VVM component.
Mejilan said:
I don't understand your question. I'm talking about my AT&T-bought LG V60.
It doesn't support AT&T's own VVM app (according to the Google Play Store, "device incompatible").
And it's AT&T's general policy to not allow the stock ASOP VVM on most Android devices (iPhones are completely exempt).
At least it was. If something's changed in the past year or two, I certainly don't see it reflected on my phone.
I had to go to APKMirror to get AT&T's VVM app on this phone, which is ridiculous, but not unusual.
I had to do the same for my old LG V30 until AT&T finally released a new version of their VVM app on the Google Play Store that worked on the V30.
As for the Google Phone app, I have it installed on my V60 and set up as my primary phone app/dialer, and it works fine. It just doesn't have the VVM component.
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That is what I'm referring to that carriers block or LG and Samsung block. I have always been able to utilize Google phone app and get visual voicemail on Pixels and OnePlus even on carrier versions without issues.
I'm sick if seeing that error message from T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app. On my carrier Pixel or OnePlus using Google phone app it doesn't have issues at all. I have jump on demand and have since it came out. I have had over 30+ Android models with various Android versions and various T-Mobile Visual Voicemail apps and have seen this message on every device. I'm extremely annoyed, we should not be forced to utilize a third party app when stock Android has this feature.
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That is what I'm referring to that carriers block or LG and Samsung block. I have always been able to utilize Google phone app and get visual voicemail on Pixels and OnePlus even on carrier versions without issues.
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It's the U.S. carriers, not the OEMs. And it's been known about for years.
Hell, I could never get my open-market LG V30 to utilized AT&T's VoLTE hi-fi calling. My phone supported all the right bands.
Then, why? Because I didn't buy my phone from AT&T. My phone's open-market IMEI was on a blacklist.
Or perhaps, since I didn't buy my V30 from AT&T, it's simply that my phone's IMEI wasn't on a sanctioned white-list.
I know for sure that a few years ago, a Pixel with an AT&T SIM couldn't access Android's stock VVM app.
Slip in a Verizon SIM, and you could. It was, and remains, ridiculous.
Now, it could be that AT&T and Google (and, I suppose, OnePlus) struck deals in the last year or two.
But that's only for their phones. Phones made by other OEMs are typically SOL.
I mean, you can Google the issue for most big (and minor) devices out there and find pages of AT&T forum results complaining about the situation.
It's sadly well documented.
With the work around I have always been able to get this working on a lot of devices. The work around is to install the T-Mobile app, allow to fully setup, uninstall, reboot and wait a few minutes it's there. The LG and Samsungs don't work even with the work around. I am hoping if I get enough signatures the carriers will be forced to change.
BlackKnight23 said:
With the work around I have always been able to get this working on a lot of devices. The work around is to install the T-Mobile app, allow to fully setup, uninstall, reboot and wait a few minutes it's there. The LG and Samsungs don't work even with the work around. I am hoping if I get enough signatures the carriers will be forced to change.
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Need root to do it.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Need root to do it.
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Are there ADB/Fastboot equivalents that could also get the job done, absent a root solution?
Just curious. Thank you.
Mejilan said:
Are there ADB/Fastboot equivalents that could also get the job done, absent a root solution?
Just curious. Thank you.
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No, you need to edit XML files
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BROKEN1981 said:
No, you need to edit XML files
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Would you please be more specific on what XML files to mod for those that are willing to perform the modifications?
Ascii3 said:
Would you please be more specific on what XML files to mod for those that are willing to perform the modifications?
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Sorry man, I don't remember
BROKEN1981 said:
Sorry man, I don't remember
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That is unfortunate.