Hello all , i create this thread to discuss the impact of the KitKat 4.4.2 on our phones , for me it was a disaster , my G2 was lag free score always more than 36000pts on antutu and more than 20000 on quadrant , now with 4.4.2 i get only 28000 pts on antutu and 17000 on quadrant .
AND YOU ?
Same here...only quadrant 21126.
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dont know why ...
gabilondo said:
Same here...only quadrant 21126.
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i have another G2 Korean version F320S same issue 28000 on antutu ...., and both D802 and F320S lag time to time ... i dont know why
Mine doesn't lag but antutu score is really affected.Before kitkat 36540,after 28000.Quadrant score is the same before and after update.
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gabilondo said:
Mine doesn't lag but antutu score is really affected.Before kitkat 36540,after 28000.Quadrant score is the same before and after update.
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when you power on and you try to type your PIN it dosnt lag little when you click the numbers ? im asking coz i have the same lag in both versions !
I never use pin code,sorry..
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HoussaMON said:
when you power on and you try to type your PIN it dosnt lag little when you click the numbers ? im asking coz i have the same lag in both versions !
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not sure if there would be a difference, but i'm on d801 (t-mobile). i don't see any lag with either JB or KK
pitchdarkice said:
not sure if there would be a difference, but i'm on d801 (t-mobile). i don't see any lag with either JB or KK
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i had no lag on JB but i have some with KK on both versions , can you share with us your benchmark scores ?
All benchmarks are affected by kitkat, but it doesn't indicate the lags/smoothness
I tested all kk roms including CM ones. Now i'm on not official for my phone kk from vodafone (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2664933) and it's all the same. These are my scores : Antutu 25000-27000 and Quadrant 16000-17000. Usualy in Antutu i got 31000 on PA kitkat. And with stock 422 i got 34700. In Quadrant i got 20000-21000 on stock 422. But i think there might be an issue with Quadrant and Antutu, because on 3dmark everything is up the roof(pics), Ice Storm - maxed out, Ice Storm Extreme - maxed out, and Ice Storm Unlimited 17127.
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All benchmarks are affected by kitkat, but it doesn't indicate the lags/smoothness
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I've been running the 4.4.2 since yesterday and besides the lack of root, I really think the update solves most of the strange lag in lg stock launcher. Also apps open up much faster, eg. facebook before had a 1-2 second lag before showing the ui, now its like 700 ms and updating the feed is also much snappier.
Antutu gives med 33.000 which is more or less the same as on 4.2.2 stock.
D802 32 gb international here, running 4.4.2 Verizon branded kdz taken from the links here on xda.
HoussaMON said:
i had no lag on JB but i have some with KK on both versions , can you share with us your benchmark scores ?
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I hate when people with low knowledge on how android or benchmarks work start thread.It's a disaster for your phone to be more responsive with lower benchmarks?Instead it's a disaster when ur phone is less responsive with higher benchmarks that smokes every other companies' device.These are some threads I wish the mods burn no even delete.Benchmarks NEVER EXPLAIN REAL LIFE PERFORMANCE!How many times should noobs here this!Even devs like @faux123 and @maxwen tell u how a kernel can be optimized to come in with much power when the user needs it and not when the user isn't and their kernels score less benchmark performances and greater performance + battery life than stock kernels for all the devices they've worked with.Benchmarks can't be read by individual scores alone.Did u check the i/o,single core and other unique performances in your benchmarking app.Btw OEMs do learn how to cheat on benchmarks after their first updates so wait for an OTA with "bug fixes" which means benchmark cheats incoming if u want higher benchmarks!
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I hate when people with low knowledge on how android or benchmarks work start thread.It's a disaster for your phone to be more responsive with lower benchmarks?Instead it's a disaster when ur phone is less responsive with higher benchmarks that smokes every other companies' device.These are some threads I wish the mods burn no even delete.Benchmarks NEVER EXPLAIN REAL LIFE PERFORMANCE!How many times should noobs here this!Even devs like @faux123 and @maxwen tell u how a kernel can be optimized to come in with much power when the user needs it and not when the user isn't and their kernels score less benchmark performances and greater performance + battery life than stock kernels for all the devices they've worked with.Benchmarks can't be read by individual scores alone.Did u check the i/o,single core and other unique performances in your benchmarking app.Btw OEMs do learn how to cheat on benchmarks after their first updates so wait for an OTA with "bug fixes" which means benchmark cheats incoming if u want higher benchmarks!
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an i hate when a "HALF-GEEK" start his bla bla bla BLU without reading , all what you said we know it ! but when we talk benchmarks we mean smothness not only scores , and my PHONES ARE LESS RESPONSIVE WITH kitkat I HAVE LAGS ON BOTH VERSIONS ,that why i starts this thread! i have multitask : 4730 CPU Integer : 1532 storage I/O 1622 Database I/O 589 bla bla bla so please ... if you cant discuss and respect others and if you dont like a thread no one oblige you to participate .
great!!!!
Alexzander said:
I tested all kk roms including CM ones. Now i'm on not official for my phone kk from vodafone (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2664933) and it's all the same. These are my scores : Antutu 25000-27000 and Quadrant 16000-17000. Usualy in Antutu i got 31000 on PA kitkat. And with stock 422 i got 34700. In Quadrant i got 20000-21000 on stock 422. But i think there might be an issue with Quadrant and Antutu, because on 3dmark everything is up the roof(pics), Ice Storm - maxed out, Ice Storm Extreme - maxed out, and Ice Storm Unlimited 17127.
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you didnt notice any irresponsiveness/lag ?
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you didnt notice any irresponsiveness/lag ?
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No lag so far . Everything is butter smooth. But i didn't have time to test the gps yet.
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i had no lag on JB but i have some with KK on both versions , can you share with us your benchmark scores ?
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I got 27958 on antutu and 17522 on quadrant, so the benchmark numbers haven't correlated to the quicker responsiveness
I don't bother with benchmarks but I can tell you my phone feels exponentially faster and more responsive. Everything just feels smoother.
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So overall their is a actual performance improvement in KitKat?
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I don't really care about the benchmarks... Kit kat so smooth... Put's jelly bean to total shame...
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i have franco kernel 2.6.35.14 & overclocked at 729 using setcpu
Why my quadrant score is only 886, have seen some quadrant result for optimus one that reaches around 2000. How they do it?
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i have franco kernel 2.6.35.14 & overclocked at 729 using setcpu
Why my quadrant score is only 886, have seen some quadrant result for optimus one that reaches around 2000. How they do it?
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886 - suppose you use stock Gingerbread, it's normal as it's not optimised and doesn't have the performance patches found in oxygen or cyanogenmod rom. Actually all it matters is user experience - if it's smooth enough and can handle other things good enough you don't need to care about benchmarks, and benchmarks are just for showing off.
Reaching 2000+ is a result of using a2sd and its variants. It doesn't really matter as it's only a small little boost to performance.
Dude use antutu benchmark..quadrant is no longer reliable ..it shows fake results with a2sd n 0ther shyt..you know what ? When i was on miks rom +franco kernel+ungaze+zram i got a score of 2600..but performance was nt that great n battery drain was huge ..now wid 2.3.3 based roms like openoptimus,blackbird ,aga etc my phone is even smooth n efficicient..however a differenece of 250~ (antutu)is ppssible between cyan roms etc nd official gingerbread based ones..
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Antutu isnt a good benchmark too, with a better SD you will have a better score... Nenamark is another good benchmark
None of the scores really matter, its just the user experience which matters
yup got the answer result is not important.
After installing franco kernel phone became smooth as butter with increase in speed by overclocking.
Thanks Guys
anyone tried benchmarks on honeycomb...? please share some results.... that will help all decide to update to HC or not on performance grounds....
thnx
Which benchmarks. Will depend if user is running a rom
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Which benchmarks. Will depend if user is running a rom
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general ones quadrant, linpack ,pi ,antutu , browsermark and others... i was asking about official rom HC 3.2.1
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I ran the Quadrant app. dont know much about it, guess I did it correctly- I ran the full benchmark and my device scored 2096. I've ran it 3 times, each time it scores between 1900-2000 range. my device is a stock View 4G upgraded to Honeycomb through system updates. I updated over wifi, I don't have a sprint data plan. hope this helps-
Quadrant is same as it was on GB interesting!!! 3D n 2D benchmark scores on GB were quite low... i guess honeycomb wont affect these thing these r mainly depend on GPU n processor...
there will b just marginal difference...
With Nenemark2 i get 23-25 fps on Honeycomb
GB it was around 12-14 fps
Vellamo between 850-1100 - dont remember GB results
I would ask you not to mention specific ROMs
When the HD2 came out, the first months it was all about benchmark results...
There were ROM ranking lists based on benchmarks... but the comunity realized fast this was pure bull**** so it stopped after a while
Cooks optimized only for specfic benchmarks to get on top casue people started looking only at results... which often had nothin to do wit real life performance
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With Nenemark2 i get 23-25 fps on Honeycomb
GB it was around 12-14 fps
Vellamo between 850-1100 - dont remember GB results
I would ask you not to mention specific ROMs
When the HD2 came out, the first months it was all about benchmark results...
There were ROM ranking lists based on benchmarks... but the comunity realized fast this was pure bull**** so it stopped after a while
Cooks optimized only for specfic benchmarks to get on top casue people started looking only at results... which often had nothin to do wit real life performance
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after reading thing i might move to honeycomb .... so we get improved graphics perfomance.....
and vellamo was 820 on GB...
so flyer was under powered with GB...
i heard 1.5 ghz processor was also under powered so i guess bechmark pi will also give better result...
thanx man please test some more on HC... antutu gave a bad score with GB
I've had a nose for newest member of SE Walkman family, this small phone tweaked turns out to be powerful and perspective yet very affordable phone! Ice-cream sandwich officially announced, great sound, solid camera, and , and... overclockable hardware geek index 10+ No more introduction, lets get to numbers...
1. CM 7.2 ROM with its own kernel, OC-ed at max 1.6 GHZ stable, Quadrant score of 2700!!
2. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM vanilla, Quadrant score 1800.
3. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM with RAGE KERNEL V2 (OC open to 2.0 GHZ) on my phone goes 1.9 GHZ stable making Quadrant score of 2550 , will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier , geek's wet dream
No kernel at the moment is UV (undervolting) capable.
Software: Voltage control, tnx to xan http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107468
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, will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier
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did you tried that?
how do you get that kind of score in quadrant? I already OCed my wt19i to 1.9ghz and got only a score of 1800.. what tweaks did you applied?
Does benchmark score really matter that much to you guys? Its just numbers
Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
since my galaxy mini with cm7 oc'd to 800mhz got higher score than my LWW, using quadrant advance, i quit believing those app....
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I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
XperianPro said:
I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
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Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
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Precisely. Benchmark score if bragged publicly is just like saying "my thing is bigger than yours". Just pure pathedic.
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
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I meant on stability.
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I meant on stability.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Not few minutes,two hours.
oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
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oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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thanks for the info.. then my way in testing my phone is right.
is there no compatibility between rom and kerner even if they are for the phone model
hey have look at this screenshot..!
The person that provided me this screenshot said that he is developing a new kernel.
But then i saw the score not validated as it was red but then he said would release the kernel to select users and also he said he will be making a video on the kernel highlights.
But how did he attain such high scores???
Holy crap how is that even possible ? Who is this magician ? It doesn't look like overclock , CPU score is less important than our actual values (24000 for 1804 + 1440 MHz)
Need some explanation but wow , wait &see
ol I got almost 100k once on old guyver kernel + eu miui dev with kernel tweaks and heavy debloat on my 2GB ram model k3nzo
but thats the reason I dont trust this benchmark...
Ok so i contacted the guy named Riju and he said his work would take another week to compare before releasing it to the public.
He also mentions the support for nougat rooms and mm miui roms, quick charge 3.0,improved battery performance and better graphics with vulkan api stork
I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I got ~88k with AICP Nougat + Radon (stock settings) + F2FS. Nothing more.
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I am using new LineageOS unofficial (7.1.1), nothing special, stock radon settings(3.4), only set the governor to Impulse.
This totally insane!!
Antutu 6.0.1 could be easily used to have a good score I don't know how, but it's in link with the kernel... I could go to 120K with guyver kernel ... but it's bug is just with antutu 6.0.1
https://youtu.be/uOlOSbLp-J8?list=PLyjrOYSiemcuTICj-NBeqHHXqXuukSoIa
antutu is not a good way to judge device performance.
this score is complete bs... this version of antutu can be manipulated to have this high of a score. tell this kernel creator to run a new benchmark using the latest antutu version and see how it fares.
I flash Vulkan API and android N blobs for SD650, got 86k, if overclock might near 100k, but that's too high in the image.
AIDA screenshot for Vulkan API proof.
Lol no updates yet
Kernel release?
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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Performance will feel better for sure. Battery life, system stability, product life and thermals will suffer though. Which do you find more important is the real question I guess.
but why do u want this score overclocking means higher risk of damage an just getting 20000 more wont do any wonders, apps incompatible will stay like that. It is a great phone which in my opinion dosent need overclocking atleast for now.
Can anyone port blackshark miui rom ( stable / beta ) for Poco f1
Reason - Blackshark is highly optimised for gaming and there must be some serious optimisations in terms of performance too on the software side
Poco scores like 300K on Antutu
But i have seen many a times its 3Dmark scores are way beyond low
Links provided below -
Xiaomi Black Shark Review
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Xiaomi+Black+Shark+review
Xiaomi Pocophone F1 Review
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Xiaomi+Pocophone+F1+review
No matter what tweak you do yours scores never gonna reach that level
Why ? I know benchmarks are just numbers it doesn't matter when you have fluidity performance
But the 3D scores test are really low and i have noticed some serious frame drops in games like mc5 ( MODERN COMBAT 5 )
I hope someone will look into it and make available for such
I been searching for the same thing. Hope someone comes up with it
I wonder how the note 9 performs so high in 3d mark? Have you seen the scores?
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
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I wonder how the note 9 performs so high in 3d mark? Have you seen the scores?
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
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M curious too
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M curious too
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Not just note9, all the flagships from samsung this year show extraordinary performance on 3dmark which is a more renowned benchmark in the gaming world for both mobile and desktops.
Although these are way bad in Antutu where the Chinese devices have taken up the top spots.
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Not just note9, all the flagships from samsung this year show extraordinary performance on 3dmark which is a more renowned benchmark in the gaming world for both mobile and desktops.
Although these are way bad in Antutu where the Chinese devices have taken up the top spots.
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Maybe they are being paid AFUC gpu used in Exynos is not that powerful compared to Adreno by a huge margin
This could be a nice ideea, a rom made ONLY for gaming performance (with the best gaming optimisations, latest GPU drivers, mods etc)
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Maybe they are being paid AFUC gpu used in Exynos is not that powerful compared to Adreno by a huge margin
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Exactly!!! That's why the Exynos variants have about 1k less scores as compared to the 845 variants.
I honestly don't see the point. It will still share the same drivers and that's where the problem lays. Let's take the GameCube/Wii emulator called Dolphin, it runs better on the Nvidia Shield TV than it does on any phone even though the SOC is older on the Nvidia Shield TV because the drivers are far better than what you find on a Snapdragon device
Stock Rom Score Update...
Nope...guess what scores I have got on stock EU rom 8.12.27...
No need to guess see the screenshot...
Completely in sync with the other phones... including the Black Shark...and I repeat I am on stock Rom with the stock kenel.
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Nope...guess what scores I have got on stock EU rom 8.12.27...
No need to guess see the screenshot...
Completely in sync with the other phones... including the Black Shark...and I repeat I am on stock Rom with the stock kenel.
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Thats with los latest
Shinichi Kudo said:
Not just note9, all the flagships from samsung this year show extraordinary performance on 3dmark which is a more renowned benchmark in the gaming world for both mobile and desktops.
Although these are way bad in Antutu where the Chinese devices have taken up the top spots.
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We all know how benchmark score works. If I pay some handsome amount for my 5 years old Lumia 1320, Antutu will show insane score for that device as well.:laugh: