Looking for assistance, rooted phone months and have rerom'ed multiple times, never had an issues. ROM to jelly whiz, which seemed and stable with great battery life, but lost 4G. Was suggested I recover back to stock which I did and still no 4G.
Anyone have thoughts?
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I would look in the hidden menu, and see if you could switch to 4G only. There is an app called advanced signal status on the play store. It will allow you to do this.
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JeramyEggs said:
I would look in the hidden menu, and see if you could switch to 4G only. There is an app called advanced signal status on the play store. It will allow you to do this.
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Matters made worse late last night, OTA applied by wife trying to be helpful
still not grabbing 4G, anyone have thoughts?
Willing to offer reward to information resulting in successful restoration of 4G services.
@ursusblue,
There could be something going on with your SIM card. It may have been just a coincidence that the 4G stopped working when you were running the other ROM. You could try powering off your phone, removing the battery, and taking out the SIM/ then put it back in to make sure it's seated good.
If that doesn't work, you could try getting a new Sim from Verizon.... they should be free at the corporate stores. Or, you could call customer service to get one--they would probably mail you one free if you tell them your 4g stopped working and you think it might be a SIM problem. I was able to get a new Nfc-enabled SIM free about a month ago by logging onto My Verizon online account. I had noticed that they were offering to give away the free NFC Sim....I think it was under accessories or something like that. I still have grandfathered unlimited data and I was easily able to change my SIM after I received it by going back into My Verizon Account and doing it all online.
Good luck!
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mattnmag said:
@ursusblue,
There could be something going on with your SIM card. It may have been just a coincidence that the 4G stopped working when you were running the other ROM. You could try powering off your phone, removing the battery, and taking out the SIM/ then put it back in to make sure it's seated good.
If that doesn't work, you could try getting a new Sim from Verizon.... they should be free at the corporate stores. Or, you could call customer service to get one--they would probably mail you one free if you tell them your 4g stopped working and you think it might be a SIM problem. I was able to get a new Nfc-enabled SIM free about a month ago by logging onto My Verizon online account. I had noticed that they were offering to give away the free NFC Sim....I think it was under accessories or something like that. I still have grandfathered unlimited data and I was easily able to change my SIM after I received it by going back into My Verizon Account and doing it all online.
Good luck!
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Good catch, I'll flip sims with the wife's phone tonight and see if that resolves the issue as a start.
Otherwise, I'm sure the knowledge is on the forums, just been messing with this long enough and at 65+hrs/week my bandwidth to find it is lacking
That will be great if it's something as simple as the SIM card. Hope that gets the 4g back. If not... I'm not sure what else it could be.
Let us know what happens
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mattnmag said:
That will be great if it's something as simple as the SIM card. Hope that gets the 4g back. If not... I'm not sure what else it could be.
Let us know what happens
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Failure.
Wife's sim card in my device only pulls up 3G
My sim in her's hit 4G.
Little frustrating to say the least.
Dang... that sucks. I was hoping that was it. At least you ruled out the SIM as the problem.
Let's hope someone else on XDA has some suggestions and you can get it fixed.
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Anyone stumbling across this post have any other ideas.
Reward still stands to whomever can successfully assist in resolving.
Odin back to stock. (not recover back to stock) Since its not the sim card. You will then regain 4G.
Do you have a nandroid from a previous ROM where you still got 4G signal? If so, did you try restoring it (even better if you backed up the EFS partition)?
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Odin back to stock. (not recover back to stock) Since its not the sim card. You will then regain 4G.
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I've tried this path 3 times now, just completed again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
Still 3G only
DarkChylde-QC said:
Do you have a nandroid from a previous ROM where you still got 4G signal? If so, did you try restoring it (even better if you backed up the EFS partition)?
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I wish I had done a nandroid
Bumping in case anyone else tumbles on it and can offer assistance.
I've moved to an S3 in there interim until I can figure out what's preventing me from getting 4G on the Sammy Note 2
Did you try and restore your efs? (assuming you made a backup)
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Did you try and restore your efs? (assuming you made a backup)
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No EFS backup to work from.
Here's several more ideas to try..... I don't know if they will work but they shouldn't hurt.
You could try pulling out the battery and SIM... then putting battery back in and power on the phone.... let it sit for at least 10 minutes with the no sim error... then power off, remove battery again, and put back in SIM and then the battery.. . Power back on again. From what I've read, this causes the phone to update the PRL.
Another thing I read was some people reported success with getting 4g back by doing a hard reset,(power up the phone and do factory reset from within stock ROM). Others reported success with doing factory reset by booting into stock recovery..... you could try both.
Another idea I read was you may be able to call Verizon Customer Service and talk with tech support to get them to reprovision your phone/ Sim settings.... tell them you no longer get 4g (leave out mention of rooting)..... tell them you saw in a Verizon support forum that reprovisioning might help, and ask if they can reprovision the settings for you.
One final thought (that may be more than you want to get into) is trying to root the phone with saferoot method, and then alter a system file to see if you can access the hidden menus and maybe try some reset codes like RTN and such.... you may end up doing more harm than good though unless you research to know what you're doing.... and I'm not totally sure that you can access all the hidden menus now that you're on 4.3 (I would have to do more research).
I hope something here helps. If it does, don't worry about the offer of a reward. I'm just doing this as a hobby and I enjoy learning.
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oh yeah.... one more thought was to see if it might help to repair the phone by using Verizon's computer based repair assistant ....
Here's a link I found that looks to be to the Samsung repair assistant- http://support.verizonwireless.com/support/devices/knowledge_base.html/80201/
I suppose you could try a restore through KIES as another alternative. If nothing else works. Ok... I got to get to bed. Good Luck!!
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JeramyEggs said:
I would look in the hidden menu, and see if you could switch to 4G only. There is an app called advanced signal status on the play store. It will allow you to do this.
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I was having this exact same issue, and this seems to have fixed it. Thanks!
I have a thought/idea did you recently drop your phone or have it repaired?
I ask this bc I had a similar situation happen to me after I got my phone back from a eMMC repair.. I had no clue why I was only able to get 3g. . 4G lte never kick on..
Well about a week or two later I got a new 4.1.2 motherboard and while I was installing it I saw the 4G antenna, inside the phone, was loose and coming off..
So lone behold.. reconnected it and BOOM 4G lol..
Here is a video of a motherboard replacing for a note 2.. The LTE antenna He detaches at min 3:01.. it is a little wire looking thing..
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I have a thought/idea did you recently drop your phone or have it repaired?
I ask this bc I had a similar situation happen to me after I got my phone back from a eMMC repair.. I had no clue why I was only able to get 3g. . 4G lte never kick on..
Well about a week or two later I got a new 4.1.2 motherboard and while I was installing it I saw the 4G antenna, inside the phone, was loose and coming off..
So lone behold.. reconnected it and BOOM 4G lol..
Here is a video of a motherboard replacing for a note 2.. The LTE antenna He detaches at min 3:01.. it is a little wire looking thing..
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Thanks, I am willing to give this a try as it is very frustrating to have this acting as a coaster now. In call data usage is a priority in my world.
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So long story short, I opened a new line and swapped my hardware to the new line for the TB on my line. After I left BB, I called Verizon to do the swap. They said they couldn't because my SIM card was programmed for the original line and I had to go back to a VZW to get a new provisioned SIM, which I did. It worked when I left, but since late last night, I have no 4G or 3G. Any ideas what the issue could be?
Oh and when the phone goes into sleep mode and I awaken it, the 4G is lit up and then shortly after, no data.
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Oh and when the phone goes into sleep mode and I awaken it, the 4G is lit up and then shortly after, no data.
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when i first got my phone, the original 4g card wasnt working. turns out is was just bad... they swapped it for a new one and all is well. so i'm assuming u've already tried to reboot and see if that helps. maybe that card is bad as well? hmmm....u should go back to see if they can swap out to another one.
When I was in the store getting mine they were talking about how they'd been having allot of issues activating phone because of the large demand was causing a backup in the switch. There was a guy that walked in about 5 min before me and his would not activate, but then mine activated perfectly. So I guess it was intermittent. Makes me wonder if you got caught up in that backup when you activated the second sim.
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When I was in the store getting mine they were talking about how they'd been having allot of issues activating phone because of the large demand was causing a backup in the switch. There was a guy that walked in about 5 min before me and his would not activate, but then mine activated perfectly. So I guess it was intermittent. Makes me wonder if you got caught up in that backup when you activated the second sim.
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Should I go back?
I would do a battery pull (pretty sure you've already done that) and remove and reseat the sim as well (if you haven't already) and if that doesn't work I'd reach out to Cust Service. May be something easily fixable in the system, save ya the time and gas of driving to the store.
maybe try a *228 and press 1 to program .... just a thought, I hate having to deal with customer service
I could be wrong but I thought *228 did not work with these phones because of the sim card.
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I could be wrong but I thought *228 did not work with these phones because of the sim card.
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I'd assume there is some good system in place for phones ordered online and what not.
How did anyone who ordered their phone online activate?
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I would do a battery pull (pretty sure you've already done that) and remove and reseat the sim as well (if you haven't already) and if that doesn't work I'd reach out to Cust Service. May be something easily fixable in the system, save ya the time and gas of driving to the store.
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My 4g would drop off randomly and I just assumed it was my area's LTE working out it's kinks. Then after doing the manual 3g only switch, the data was still randomly dropping off, so I was up to try anything out.
I pulled the battery and reseat the Sim like you said and so far so good...mind explaining that?, lol, doesnt make sense to me.
thanks in advance
Geegolly said:
My 4g would drop off randomly and I just assumed it was my area's LTE working out it's kinks. Then after doing the manual 3g only switch, the data was still randomly dropping off, so I was up to try anything out.
I pulled the battery and reseat the Sim like you said and so far so good...mind explaining that?, lol, doesnt make sense to me.
thanks in advance
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Improperly seated SIM card? Corrupted memory that a battery pull resets? Good Karma?
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When I was in the store getting mine they were talking about how they'd been having allot of issues activating phone because of the large demand was causing a backup in the switch. There was a guy that walked in about 5 min before me and his would not activate, but then mine activated perfectly. So I guess it was intermittent. Makes me wonder if you got caught up in that backup when you activated the second sim.
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Wow, exact same experience I had yesterday. I went in late, like 5:00 PM. I had to wait a while for someone to actually help me, but once I said what phone I wanted it wasn't more than 20 minutes to get the transaction done.
Do NOT do *228.
I had this same problem today when activating my phone. Just call Verizon and they will walk you through getting it activated correctly.
Ironically, on my way to VZW it suddenly started working. LOL. "clog" in the system? I don't know, but it's fast as hell!
I don't have 4G in my area yet but I got the TB anyway. I love it. But the 3G does the same thing, just keeps dropping out.
This keeps happening to me also. Its very Frustrating. What the number to VZW Customer Service?
hotdawwgman said:
This keeps happening to me also. Its very Frustrating. What the number to VZW Customer Service?
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Nevermind lol
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Just so you know, *228 & *22899 do not work on the tbolt due to sim card. You cannot activate or update that way..
Jrocker23 said:
Just so you know, *228 & *22899 do not work on the tbolt due to sim card. You cannot activate or update that way..
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doesnt it still update the other radio? not everything uses lte.
No need for *228 because the sim card now is provisioned with auto PRL for when the phone does enter 3G service
DO NOT EVER ESN SWAP THE PHONE TO A NON 4G
Just like mentioned initially, the sim card and phone are designed for 4G lines only so swapping back to your old 3G device or onto another line is a bad idea.
If your trying to do an alternative upgrade and the store your at is full of morons, ask them if they could possibly do a Customer Provided Equipment Upgrade and then then ring out the phone in their point of sale system with the contract you have signed.
Until VZ Corporate figures out another way to do alternative upgrades, this is the only method I have found to get around this
Yes in many cases (including me) we have found it to take a while for 3G or 4G to stay on. Give it time. dial #832 to prove your phone can make calls and receive text messages. anywhere from 10 to some cases an hour before the phone is in full lock.
If your still having a problem go out for a walk or drive, heard switching between towers can help push the process.
I had the exact same problem as the OP, to fix it Verizon made me go back to best buy, you have to get the phone exchanged for a new one and then they have to call in to setup the new untouched TB on the line you want it on. Believe me it took 3 hours for them to finally fix it, and that's what did it.
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I just bought my note from BestBuy today.
My phone will not connect to the internet, if I put the SIM card into my AT&T Samsung Captivate it works just fine.
Are there settings I am supposed to change?
First thing ... is this a LTE Sim Card?
It should be orange and blue with a globe on it, no wording no white...
From the sounds of it you are using a 3G SIM card which will not work
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Tunix2 said:
I just bought my note from BestBuy today.
My phone will not connect to the internet, if I put the SIM card into my AT&T Samsung Captivate it works just fine.
Are there settings I am supposed to change?
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They need to update your imei number on your account to your new device, and also change to the lte data plan. I've been trying since earlier and theyre systems are down for this as they are updating. I've been stuck on wifi all day. You can try , dial 611.
Systems was suppose to be up by 12PM est today... lol that's funny...
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Systems were down updating since yesterday. I've tried 3 times today and they all tried but couldnt telling me systems still updating. I told the last cs rep like an hour ago, this must be an update of mammoth proportions. Had no idea what I meant lol.
Lol who knows what they are changing ... =( could be bad...
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SysAdmNj said:
They need to update your imei number on your account to your new device, and also change to the lte data plan. I've been trying since earlier and theyre systems are down for this as they are updating. I've been stuck on wifi all day. You can try , dial 611.
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First thing ... is this a LTE Sim Card?
It should be orange and blue with a globe on it, no wording no white...
From the sounds of it you are using a 3G SIM card which will not work
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They asked me what kind of SIM I had and I told them I had a 3G SIM so he told me he would have to give me a new SIM for the LTE and he did. The SIM is orage with a globe on it, and the top half is white with a long number on it.
He did call and I physically heard him give her my phones IMEI number however something could have gotten ****ed up because they made me buy a 2nd SIM for my other line because I was "cross upgrading" by upgrading MY phone by using an upgrade that was on another line. However, he sounded like he knew his stuff and since I heard him give her the IMEI number I cant imagine how things got twisted up.
And yes it would be nice to be able to login to ATT or call tech support to check but there isnt a damn thing I can do when the website is down and its after tech support hours.
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They asked me what kind of SIM I had and I told them I had a 3G SIM so he told me he would have to give me a new SIM for the LTE and he did. The SIM is orage with a globe on it, and the top half is white with a long number on it.
He did call and I physically heard him give her my phones IMEI number however something could have gotten ****ed up because they made me buy a 2nd SIM for my other line because I was "cross upgrading" by upgrading MY phone by using an upgrade that was on another line. However, he sounded like he knew his stuff and since I heard him give her the IMEI number I cant imagine how things got twisted up.
And yes it would be nice to be able to login to ATT or call tech support to check but there isnt a damn thing I can do when the website is down and its after tech support hours.
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I would go to AT&T store and pickup a SIM and be done with it free
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maxjivi05 said:
First thing ... is this a LTE Sim Card?
It should be orange and blue with a globe on it, no wording no white...
From the sounds of it you are using a 3G SIM card which will not work
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Jazz848 said:
maxjivi05 said:
First thing ... is this a LTE Sim Card?
It should be orange and blue with a globe on it, no wording no white...
From the sounds of it you are using a 3G SIM card which will not work
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You may be right, but what i dont understand is the dude asked me if it was a 3G SIM and when I said it was he busted out a brand new one for me. My old one has 3G right on the front, the new one does not resemble it.
Also when I did a google image search I found a lot of LTE SIM cards that look exactly like the one I have. However I did see a couple that were all a solid orange like the one you described but there was info to suggest my card was the incorrect one.
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Okay here is a screenshot of my plans "features" does this mean that I do NOT have LTE?
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I got the same thing with this extra nice message and i believe we need the lte package:
Smartphone Bundles Bundled Features PRICE TEXT DATA SELECT
Smartphone Bundle without Messaging SmartPhone Personal (To expire on 04/01/2012 )
$30.00 N/A Unlimited Current
Notice the part it says to expire 4/1/12? wtf lol.
That must be the date the world ends
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Okay here is a screenshot of my plans "features" does this mean that I do NOT have LTE?
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my wife had the exact same issue when she got a new LTE card. left the store the phone was working but when we got home realized she had no data. and i couldnt change the data plan to LTE online. had to call and have AT&T make the switch
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I got the same thing with this extra nice message and i believe we need the lte package:
Smartphone Bundles Bundled Features PRICE TEXT DATA SELECT
Smartphone Bundle without Messaging SmartPhone Personal (To expire on 04/01/2012 )
$30.00 N/A Unlimited Current
Notice the part it says to expire 4/1/12? wtf lol.
That must be the date the world ends
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If I select any of the LTE packages (specifically the one I wasnt LTE Smartphone unlimited personal add-on) I get this error:
Just call, I'm on the phone with another rep right now that seems to know what she's doing. Who knows, I might get lucky tonight. But yes, we definitely need the lte unlimited data package and she also said it comes with visual voicemail for free so ask for that too for the same price.
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Just call, I'm on the phone with another rep right now that seems to know what she's doing. Who knows, I might get lucky tonight. But yes, we definitely need the lte unlimited data package and she also said it comes with visual voicemail for free so ask for that too for the same price.
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What phone number did you call? I cant get through all tech support facilities say they are only open during regular business hours.
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What phone number did you call? I cant get through all tech support facilities say they are only open during regular business hours.
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Wow she did it, actually use some other system as the other one is still updating lol. I see the 4G icon now. I only call cs the only way I know by dialing
611
option 1
option 0
asks you to enter last 4 of your social
And should put you right through. Let us know how it goes for you. Just rebooted my phone and yep 4G icon is lit up
Kinda weird to see people not being able to get unlimited LTE or having it say it expires.
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For the time being just use the apn settings phone. Instead of PTA.
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Kinda weird to see people not being able to get unlimited LTE or having it say it expires.
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Yes it does sound weird but this is what she did for me and it looks better:
LTE Smartphone unlimited enterprise discounted bundle
$30.00 N/A Unlimited Current
After taking my phone off the charger this morning I have had this white blinking triangle above the signal bars. I have tried everything, airplane mode factory reset, new rom and going through roaming settings.
Can anyone please advise what's going on? Bad SIM card possibly?
I still get calls and text, nothing different, just annoying!
Thanks in advance!
Have you tried re seating the sim card.
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Yeah, tried that to. Thanks for the quick reply!
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Yeah, tried that to. Thanks for the quick reply!
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First thing is pull the sim out for about two minutes, then put it back in and power the phone up. Give it a few minutes to boot and settle.
You need to go into the phone's hidden menu and see if preferred network is set to CDMA+LTE/Evdo auto, if its still there I would try CDMA (auto PRL)
Depending on the rom you're using there's different ways to get to the phones hidden menu, In venom tweaks it's on the advanced or misc
Easy way to do it is go to the play store and search for "LTE On Off" and you'll find the LTE on/off app for the thunderbolt, install it and open the app, say ok to the dialog and it will be in the settings window that you need, it's just a shortcut.
After that go to the phones settings/about/network and see what is says for network type, service state, and roaming.
I did all of that. It says not roaming.
So weird!
Thanks for the reply!
Downloaded that app, 5 mins later triangle went away!
Wow, so weird!
Thanks!
Never mind its back. Any ideas?
Was there a reboot between when you got rid of the triangle and when it came back?
Run it on cdma auto or cdma for a day or several hours. See what that does and let us know and then also try LTE, CDMA. We need specific feedback from you on what its doing in what mode.
A possible solution is to go to the Verizon store and have them give you a new sim card.
Those sim cards are like everything else, theirs lemons in the bunch sometimes.
That may or may not solve the issue, its kind of a personal decision about if you want to troubleshoot it yourself to confirm or deny that its software related. Or you can go to the Verizon store and the them replace the sim card, or order a new one from customer service and have them mail it to you.
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I'm getting the same problem. Any more solutions CharliesTheMan?
RUU did nothing....
The sim card works in my Rezound so it can't be that right?
Changing it to LTE only I get 4G. CDMA, LTE I get nothing!
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I'm getting the same problem. Any more solutions CharliesTheMan?
RUU did nothing....
The sim card works in my Rezound so it can't be that right?
Changing it to LTE only I get 4G. CDMA, LTE I get nothing!
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I'd try shimming the SIM card and cleaning the contacts. I've seen several users say that using a piece of scotch tape on the back of the sim card to snug up the fit solved this issue.
I'm having the com.phone.android force close and I've done everything but repartition this thing so I might PM you later on that topic. Pretty sure it will have to be a warranty return due to some hardware problem but I really don't want to give up this phone. It's so perfect, but I've donated it to a developer so if I can't fix it by tomorrow I'm sending it in.
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I'd try shimming the SIM card and cleaning the contacts. I've seen several users say that using a piece of scotch tape on the back of the sim card to snug up the fit solved this issue.
I'm having the com.phone.android force close and I've done everything but repartition this thing so I might PM you later on that topic. Pretty sure it will have to be a warranty return due to some hardware problem but I really don't want to give up this phone. It's so perfect, but I've donated it to a developer so if I can't fix it by tomorrow I'm sending it in.
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I'm hoping that is the problem. I'll have to try that later when I get off. Fingers crossed. But your problem a RUU couldn't fix it? I hate RUU on this phone. Wipes everything even sdcard partition being in the data partition
Thanks...
Well, it worked! I had crossed fingers and a chest full of dread as I began the move from Verizon to Straight Talk. Read many a post that said it could be done, some that said it couldn't, and a few nightmare posts about something going wrong. I did this with a rooted, but otherwise un-modded Galaxy S4. No added ROM's, kernels, or hacked or cracked anything. I'm not even sure you need to root it, but I was bored the other day and thought I would give it a shot.
I went to Straight Talk and ordered the SIM card kit for the BYOP program which was a $55 investment with the 30 day time card. I chose the AT&T Micro Sim Package which doesn't matter as the SIM I received was a normal sized SIM with a micro break away cut out as well.
I fired up the Registration/Activation page from Straight Talk, filled out all the info being sure to use the SIM card serial in place of the MEID/IMEI, and ported over my number from Verizon. Verizon has no PIN, you just need to provide them with your Verizon password for your account.
After that, I called ST which was a PITA, but I wanted to make sure everything went through fine. After hearing the verbal warning about how the SCH-I454 may or may not work with their service, and hearing how there is no refunds for the SIM card or the time card, I said go ahead and activate the SIM. He did so after reading me about three pages of BS and then telling me it could take up to 2 days for the number to be ported.
I continued to play with the phone with the VZW SIM in it until it went dead (about 30 minutes later), then switched out the SIM and began the conversion.
Added new APN settings as follows:
settings/connections/more networks/mobile networks/access point names
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APN Name: Straight Talk
APN: tfdata
Proxy: proxy.mvno.tracfone.com
Port: 80
MMSC: http://mms-tf.net
MMS Proxy: mms3.tracfone.com
MMS Port: 80
APN type: default,mms,supl
Save and restart the phone.
(Note: At first I had no data, after freaking out and searching the website in a panic. I was starting to lose hope when I looked down and noticed, hey there it is. So just give it a minute or two before you panic.)
Global Mode Speed Test Results with 2 bars of H service: 253 Ping - 0.98 Mbps Down - 0.58 Mbps Up
GSM Mode Speed Test Results with 2 bars of H service: 351 Ping - 1.63 Mbps Down - 0.38 Mbps Up
Global Mode vs. GSM Mode:
Make sure your phone is set to Global Mode or GSM Mode by going here:
settings/connections/more networks/mobile networks/network mode
Voicemail:
I noticed I had a Voicemail icon, but when I clicked on it, it routed me into the *63 loop of "Call can not be completed, blah blah".
This is due to Verizon using a different access for voicemail than ST. It is easily fixed.
Go to settings/my device/call/voicemail settings/voicemail numbers
and enter your cell number.
Now when you click on the VM icon or press and hold the 1 key, it will take you to your VM.
If you have a VM icon stuck on your screen, simply call your cell from a different number, leave a VM, then retrieve and delete it and it should disappear.
Verizon Bloatware Removal (sort of):
I figured since I wasn't on Verizon anymore, I could go ahead and get rid of the VZW bloatware all over this thing. There are ways to do it, that I found on these forums but I'm not very savvy when it comes to installing ROM's and such on phones so I chose to just play it safe and go to
settings/more/applications manager/all
and Turning Off everything that said or started with "Verizon".
Day 2: Continuation of Self Education
So I started receiving annoying pop up messages asking me to sign into my Verizon account. I could menu tab out of it, but it was mucho annoying. So I started digging deeper into this glorious website and the forums and learning about Safe Strap, ROM's, and flashing modules.
This led me down a bright path.
I ended up following the directions on this site in regards to installing Safe Strap v3.71 from Hashcode and the RootJunky (Tomsgt) Youtube installation video. Backing up the Stock ROM and then decided on the Hyperdrive RLS14 from sbreen94. Following the directions as outlined in the RootJunky (Tomsgt) YouTube videos, everything installed easily and I had zero issues.
Now in order to use Safe Strap, you will need root access, but finding that information on here is fairly easy. Easiest way is to search for the Tomsgt post where he links a lot of his videos. I believe it is even a sticky.
If like me, you are brand new to this whole thing and a little intimidated, it's okay. Just take your time, don't get in any hurry. Watch the installation videos prior to beginning your own installation, and just be careful. You are in good hands here.
Continued Discovery:
One of the side effects of switching over to ST from VZW was the addition of having the + sign added to calls in the call log. Now this didn't affect making calls or sending texts via your contact list, but if you tried to call back from the call log, the carrier assumed you were trying to make an international call and would drop it.
There is no way to fix it via the Calling options in settings but I did find a work around. An app by the name of Prefixer, put out by 253°Below (253below.com).
With this app, you can set rules to drop the + sign from outgoing and incoming calls. It's still going to show up in your call log, but when you tap a name or missed call to call them back, Prefixer automatically removes the added symbol and everything works like a peach!
Reclaiming Device Space:
Flashed HyperDrive RLS15 over the stock ROM this morning. Flashed the Modules before reboot and after install. Only issue I had was TouchWiz Home crashing on occasion, but a kindly soul on here told me it looked like it was an issue associated with restoring data. Although I didn't restore data, I also chose to just flash over the Stock ROM and use the installers Wipe/Factory Reset option instead of wiping the ROM slot first (Dumb move). All I had to do was boot into recovery with SafeStrap and Wipe the new ROM, reboot, and good to go. Now have close to 6Gigs of free space on the Flashed Stock ROM.
Update 13th April 2014 at 10:52 AM:
Over a month in now and everything is still working fine!
Update 30th April 2014 at 06:36 PM:
Got a new job that takes me all over the state of California and can absolutely confirm that I have 4G LTE from ST on this phone, with the above APN, when I am in an area that supports it.
Update 25th November 2015 at 03:57 AM:
Just upgraded to 4.4.2 VRUFNC5 using the info posted by Surge1223, as well as Hyperdrive RLS20 by sbreen94. Everything still working like a charm.
have you gotten 4g to work with your at&t sim? the bands are both the same so just curious.
klabit87 said:
have you gotten 4g to work with your at&t sim? the bands are both the same so just curious.
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I haven't even tried. I may look into that a bit more and see what I can find. I tried a few different listed APN's, but to no avail.
Cool thanks. I would definitely appreciate it. My friend is looking at switching so I'm trying to help him out. I think I may have read somewhere that the 4g capability was dependent on the sim card number.
I'm told in my area that the Straight Talk service uses Verizon towers. Does that sound plausible? If so, I imagine the switch over would even be less of a hassle :fingers-crossed: $70 a month savings sure sounds tempting as my contract runs out this fall.
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Cool thanks. I would definitely appreciate it. My friend is looking at switching so I'm trying to help him out. I think I may have read somewhere that the 4g capability was dependent on the sim card number.
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It doesn't look like ST has 4G in my area, so I can't really help out with that other than just making wild guesses and such which wouldn't really be any help to anyone. Sorry.
lazer9 said:
I'm told in my area that the Straight Talk service uses Verizon towers. Does that sound plausible? If so, I imagine the switch over would even be less of a hassle :fingers-crossed: $70 a month savings sure sounds tempting as my contract runs out this fall.
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I believe they do, but it's all really dependent on phone model and area. You won't be able to use an S4 on a Verizon tower through ST. You would need to have ATT or TM service in that area to support the GSM for the Galaxy S4.
Verizon S4 will not work on ATT LTE, but will work on 3G. This is due to different LTE bands. As far as ST using Verizon, the older CDMA ST phones use verizon. ST is moving towards GSM hkwever.
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I just moved to ST, I am getting Hspa+ speeds most places. I will take that for $45 a month compared to $80+
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bikoman1 said:
I just moved to ST, I am getting Hspa+ speeds most places. I will take that for $45 a month compared to $80+
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I hear ya! Now if only I could figure out how to remove the + from in front of phone numbers...
Figured it out! Edited OP, info can be found at the bottom of the post.
bikoman1 said:
I just moved to ST, I am getting Hspa+ speeds most places. I will take that for $45 a month compared to $80+
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So your on att sim or Verizon ,I'd be interested in Verizon st anybody got any ways.
swordmastr54 said:
So your on att sim or Verizon ,I'd be interested in Verizon st anybody got any ways.
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if you use the straight talk or net10 tmobile sim card in your phone you will get 4g LTE with the att sim its just h+ I was getting around 15mb a sec download speed with the tmobile net10 sim card.
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So your on att sim or Verizon ,I'd be interested in Verizon st anybody got any ways.
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When you order a SIM card from ST you have two options to choose from, the AT&T based version or the TM based version. Both are ST SIMS, they just run on different networks.
Yes, I am on the ATT based Sim, all is working for me, but receiving MMS....
MMS fixed, using hangouts as default SMS/mms
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So is there a way to use Verizon towers on st?
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Yes, I am on the ATT based Sim, all is working for me, but receiving MMS....
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Strange, I haven't had any issues with MMS. What APN are you using?
Update: I actually had this happen to me the first time I renewed my monthly plan with ST. Just have to call and have them restart your plan to fix the issue. I used to work for Virgin Mobile and knew exactly what the issue was but it still took the ST guy about ten minutes before he grabbed a supervisor and they confirmed it.
This is assuming it worked in the past.
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So is there a way to use Verizon towers on st?
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It would be phone dependent, if you are using a ST phone it would need to be one that has the letter "c" at the end of model number. I do not believe you can use VZW towers with a BYOP SIM, but I could be wrong.
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Set Port to 80 and you should be good.
Thanks, I will try.
Not really a problem it's actually really cool but I don't know why I am able to do this I bought it brand new the from walmart its the 4glte Moto E -2 for Virgin Mobile and unless it comes with a sim inside already I never put one in I was just gonna use it around wifi cause I can't afford to turn cell service on yet. Without wifi being connected and without having put any information in pertaining to activating my prepaid plan with virgin mobile I never even put information in it lets me connect using data. It's picking up on the Virgin Mobile 4g LTE signal it even says so in settings but you'll usually be able to see the data signal picking up but it never actually lets you connect until you start a plan and insert the activated sim for the plan. But I'm able to download , browse, listen to music and do everything running off of 4g for free for some reason?
I thought since this mysteriously was working despite having not paid or signed up for service with anyone maybe using the built in phone would work too since in settings there was a phone number listed for the phone but when I try opening up the native phone app it then trys to get me to either sign in to my prepaid virgin mobile account and start a service and pay for it but if I exit out and just go back to using hangouts I can use the data capabilities just fine. Is this a glitch? Seems too good to be true especially cause I haven't done anything to the phone except take it out of the box no root no nothing. I almost don't want to root now in case it might somehow make it to where the data connection doesn't work anymore cause its super awesome being able to use my phone anywhere without worrying about needing a wifi connection and I didn't pay for anything o.o
If anyone else has this lucky error in your favor do tell cause I searched everywhere and I can't find anyone else having posted about it.
Phone was likely wrongly activated on someone else's account and will be shut off after they realize what has happened. Try to dial a number from the phone to see what number is used on it.
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Not really a problem it's actually really cool but I don't know why I am able to do this I bought it brand new the from walmart its the 4glte Moto E -2 for Virgin Mobile and unless it comes with a sim inside already I never put one in I was just gonna use it around wifi cause I can't afford to turn cell service on yet. Without wifi being connected and without having put any information in pertaining to activating my prepaid plan with virgin mobile I never even put information in it lets me connect using data. It's picking up on the Virgin Mobile 4g LTE signal it even says so in settings but you'll usually be able to see the data signal picking up but it never actually lets you connect until you start a plan and insert the activated sim for the plan. But I'm able to download , browse, listen to music and do everything running off of 4g for free for some reason?
I thought since this mysteriously was working despite having not paid or signed up for service with anyone maybe using the built in phone would work too since in settings there was a phone number listed for the phone but when I try opening up the native phone app it then trys to get me to either sign in to my prepaid virgin mobile account and start a service and pay for it but if I exit out and just go back to using hangouts I can use the data capabilities just fine. Is this a glitch? Seems too good to be true especially cause I haven't done anything to the phone except take it out of the box no root no nothing. I almost don't want to root now in case it might somehow make it to where the data connection doesn't work anymore cause its super awesome being able to use my phone anywhere without worrying about needing a wifi connection and I didn't pay for anything o.o
If anyone else has this lucky error in your favor do tell cause I searched everywhere and I can't find anyone else having posted about it.
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Your "situation" actually sparked a very lucrative business for me from July, 2015 to the present. An exploit in Virgin Mobile's 4G/LTE network (mvno subsidiary of Sprint) allows for Android enthusiasts well versed in telephony standards to purchase a Virgin Mobile Data Done Right smartphone from Walmart and, without activating the device, enable unlimited 4G/LTE data which can in turn be used with the device's native mobile hotspot. I have personally seen such devices being used now for 18+ months with no problem. For obvious reasons the exact nature of the exploit cannot be articulated here. I can say, however, that it is not unlawful to take advantage of an exploit that was not hacked or otherwise implemented by the user of the device.
Viva La 4G/LTE Gratis.....
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FanboyStudios said:
This thread needs closed and deleted!
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Please explain. I am new to XDA. Have I improperly replied or have I violated a rule?
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I think he's saying it needs to be closed because you're detailing a somewhat known method to get free data (and free calls, if using Hangouts Dialer or VOIP). I accidentally discovered this loophole last fall, after canceling service with Virgin Mobile. The latest build of 5.1 closes the loophole.
We are definitely speaking of different "loopholes." I've ran every build of 5.1, including the most recent, s.12, and it has had no effect on my connectivity. In fact, the network exploit I referred to has nothing to do with the Android OS itself, but rather the msm8916 baseband. I wasn't discussing any known method to get free data. Please don't take me the wrong way. I want to fully abide by the rules and regulations of XDA and I was only sharing my particular experience with 4G/LTE connectivity.
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Weird. Anything newer than S11 and I have to activate the phone to get data to work (I reactivated briefly, then ditched the phone again). Reflashing previous firmware brings data back without an account. I personally don't have an issue with discussing this because I can't activate the phone on an MVNO like FreedomPop or RingPlus (which is what I wanted to do), and I don't really use the phone anyway.
Sean35 said:
Weird. Anything newer than S11 and I have to activate the phone to get data to work (I reactivated briefly, then ditched the phone again). Reflashing previous firmware brings data back without an account. I personally don't have an issue with discussing this because I can't activate the phone on an MVNO like FreedomPop or RingPlus (which is what I wanted to do), and I don't really use the phone anyway.
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Try cm 12.1 or cm 13 for Surnia. Do a clean install with or without Open Gapps. Then, flash the modem from any of the Android 5.0.2 builds. Let me know what happens.
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Detailing this loophole is really a bad idea... more people will learn about then start to abuse it. In response we'll get higher prices and more locked down software. Not only will people abuse it, it may get patched. If you find something this awesome, your best to keep it to yourself and let others find it themselves.
Anyways here's an interesting article I found... http://bgr.com/2012/02/23/throttling-unlimited-data-plans-is-pointless-study-finds/
I am inclined to agree.....as the old saying goes: if you know of a good fishing hole, you don't tell everybody where it's at.
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Speed
Speeds from my moto e on data done right.
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We are definitely speaking of different "loopholes." I've ran every build of 5.1, including the most recent, s.12, and it has had no effect on my connectivity. In fact, the network exploit I referred to has nothing to do with the Android OS itself, but rather the msm8916 baseband. I wasn't discussing any known method to get free data. Please don't take me the wrong way. I want to fully abide by the rules and regulations of XDA and I was only sharing my particular experience with 4G/LTE connectivity.
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Can you make other phones like this? I have Moto G 2015 Virgin and would like this hack. Thanks!
purplefruity said:
Can you make other phones like this? I have Moto G 2015 Virgin and would like this hack. Thanks!
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I'm actually using a VM Moto G3 xt1548 right now. Any Data Done Right phone works on the loophole.
MotoJunkie01 said:
I'm actually using a VM Moto G3 xt1548 right now. Any Data Done Right phone works on the loophole.
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How to make it Data done right?
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How to make it Data done right?
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You can flash it with a full partition table from an original Data Done Right model. However, provisioning the UICC can only be done on an original Data Done Right device.
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You can flash it with a full partition table from an original Data Done Right model. However, provisioning the UICC can only be done on an original Data Done Right device.
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Whats Partiton Table and how can I get it. I only have the Moto G3 right now.
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Whats Partiton Table and how can I get it. I only have the Moto G3 right now.
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Someone with a rooted Data Done Right Moto G3 xt1548 can install Flashfire by @Chainfire and opt to do a full partition backup (dump). I believe there are 24 partitions including /system. They provide you with the files. You also install Flashfire on your device (if rooted) and opt to do a full restore. The app with flash all 24 partitions to your device. Included in the partition files are modem/radio firmware, carrier and config files. Your device will then mimic a Data Done Right xt1548 Moto G3.
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Someone with a rooted Data Done Right Moto G3 xt1548 can install Flashfire by @Chainfire and opt to do a full partition backup (dump). I believe there are 24 partitions including /system. They provide you with the files. You also install Flashfire on your device (if rooted) and opt to do a full restore. The app with flash all 24 partitions to your device. Included in the partition files are modem/radio firmware, carrier and config files. Your device will then mimic a Data Done Right xt1548 Moto G3.
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I don't know anyone that has this phone. Can you send me the files?
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I don't know anyone that has this phone. Can you send me the files?
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Mine is not rooted and I'm running a bone stock Sprint 6.0.1 ROM.