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So could anyone could get back to be Ubuntu came out
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don728871 said:
So could anyone could get back to be Ubuntu came out
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That is just the Developer Preview. I am thinking about trying it out on my Nexus 7. Maybe we can try porting it when the full release gets here. But I think they delayed that till 2014.
I'd be curious if we could port sooner. Looking at the list here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress) there appear to be quite a few other devices namely HTC One variants and VZW SGIII
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I'd be curious if we could port sooner. Looking at the list here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress) there appear to be quite a few other devices namely HTC One variants and VZW SGIII
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We could probably get it working without too much trouble. The big issue is that nothing would work. GSM calling and SMS are working, but CDMA and LTE aren't and there's no mobile data support at all. It's just not worth it at this point unless you want to start writing apps.
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
Check this out.
WIP HTC devices:
HTC Desire S
HTC Desire
HTC DNA
HTC One X
HTC One X+
HTC One X+
HTC One XL
This is looking great.
Hey guys, I was wondering, since the butterfly is kind of a debranded version of the DNA it is very likely to receive Sense 5 before the DNA itself. And since they are both so similar in hardware, What is the posibility of the DNA using Butterfly´s ROMs?
Both of the phones will have sense 5 roms based off the one firmware far before either get it officially.
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nice to know.
I'm going to be replacing a broken HTC One X with an HTC One.
Since they are the same 'full price', does it make a difference whether to go with either in terms of ease of rootability/unlocking/custom roms?
I suppose if it doesn't matter, i'll go AT&T for the black case pref....
I'd go for the at&t version
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I am using black ATT version and can always choose sense or google edition rom
I keep nandroid backup for both rom :beer:
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I had the same choice, and I would personally recommend the AT&T version. I find that the AT&T stock ROMs give me incredible battery life, and Sense has come a long way since I last used it on the HTC Incredible
You can't go wrong with either though, this phone is a HUGE upgrade from the One X.
I'm sure there is some logical answer to this that someone can explain, but it is something that has been on my mind lately. Why do we even have fragmentation of Android on our devices? 4.4 just came out, and despite the rumors the chances we will ever go beyond 4.1.1 on our DNA without the use of ROMs is slim. This is because we have to wait for HTC to make the update, then Verizon to push it out.
But why don't we cut out Verizon? How about HTC, Samsung, Sony, etc push the updates directly to the device without Verizon? Maybe HTC has something like a HTC Device Manager that lets you select your device and OS, and shows you your version along with the latest with the option to update. It shouldn't be too hard... Apple does it. Even though I dislike iPhones, their updating structure is superior. Updating should be in the hands of the manufacture, not the carrier. That way only HTC is to blame.
It shouldn't be too hard for manufacturers to make updates for their devices since they should have people being paid to do such. Here on XDA we have a great community of people that seem to do more in their free time and it quicker than anyone employed by the manufacturer.
Last thing, Google can help with fragmentation by putting more features into the Playstore. A great example is the the Google Keyboard. Beforehand the only way to get it was on something like a Nexus, but now anyone can get it. Why can't Google put the new KitKat launcher and Dialer into the Playstore?
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Jaggar345 said:
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Exactly this. The Apple thing is moot. Apple is the only company who releases iOS, so Apple has the choice if they want their phone on that carrier. Android manufacturers are a dime a dozen, so they have to sign contracts and follow what the carrier wants to keep their devices on that carrier.
What is more devastating? No Samsung phones on a certain carrier, or no iOS? The carrier has a handful of android devices to choose from if one manufacturer drops. If Apple drops, there will be no more iOS on that carrier.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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danjull said:
If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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If i remember correctly it's Google that doesn't give them nexus
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Verizon did pick up a nexus phone. The Galaxy Nexus, and it was just as bad about updates.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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The Nexus 5 has CDMA support, but only on Sprint. It doesn't have support for Verizon's bands.
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Hmmm... Didn't know that. Even more reason for me to believe there's something more to it. I think it may have something to do with Verizon's effort to keep the bootloaders on all its devices locked down like a chastity belt, whereas Google wants the devices to be for unlockable.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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Why would it be illegal your not taking any paid apps or anything or breaking the law by doing what you want with your device.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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You are thinking of the law about unlocking the Sim lock. Not unlocking the bootloader. Our DNA's are sim unlocked out of the box.
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I see the One is getting upgraded, but the general talk is that the One X won't as it is outside of the 18 month window.
With the One X+ having only been out for 12 months, do you think we'll see the upgrade?
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Can't speak for the international X+, but I can tell you for a fact, the AT&T X+ will not receive Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 5.5. We will only be getting 4.2.2 Jelly Bean with Sense 5 in January. I don't see us getting 4.3 either. The international X+ will see 4.3, if it hasn't got it already, and 4.4. Just don't hold your breath on the AT&T model. Your outlook is much brighter if you have the international model.
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Thanks for the reply. Will wait and see. Being in the UK, I do have the international variant!
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I want sense 5.5!!! HTC :-[
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I want sense 5.5!!! HTC :-[
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According to what I've read, most of the changes are to BlinkFeed, especially the ability to switch it off. I have that on the + already (not 5.5).
Considering the phone is just 12 months old, I'll be very frustrated if there isn't a further update to the os.
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Lets just say ,my next handset I will choose it wisely and carefully ,I love sense but the update thing ...
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atrako1973 said:
Lets just say ,my next handset I will choose it wisely and carefully ,I love sense but the update thing ...
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Yeah, me too.
I don't expect unlimited updates. But the phone shouldn't be ignored after 1 year.
I hope they see Sense (no pun intended!) and bring the update to the plus.
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The thing is, our device was kind of niche one, because the sales were not that great. And I don't think HTC is in a position where it would make sense (financially) to invest in creating an update for our phone.
Plus, there's the problem of loyalty to HTC One X customers. The HTC One X is almost the same device, so updating the One X+ would mean they have to update the One X as well. In my opinion, you can separate the HOX from the HOX+, and viceversa. If one gets an update, so does the other. If not, then none of them do.
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The thing is, our device was kind of niche one, because the sales were not that great. And I don't think HTC is in a position where it would make sense (financially) to invest in creating an update for our phone.
Plus, there's the problem of loyalty to HTC One X customers. The HTC One X is almost the same device, so updating the One X+ would mean they have to update the One X as well. In my opinion, you can separate the HOX from the HOX+, and viceversa. If one gets an update, so does the other. If not, then none of them do.
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Yeah, I get that. If I had known that it would be forgotten about after 12 months, I wouldn't have been so brand loyal.
Just have to wait and see...
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Well I too consider myself to be brand loyal, but only because of the build quality of the phones. I've been f****d before by HTC, with the Desire Z. It too was left behind before its time.
It's frustrating. I know there are arguments that we 'shouldn't' expect major software upgrades once we've bought a phone, but I think with the money we spend on phones, you should expect some form of upkeep for a while.
Sorry to hear you've been messed about before! If it happens here, I reckon I'll jump to Samsung or Sony.
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I'm getting rather ticked off at HTC and AT&T. I've been an avid fan/user since an old HTC AT&T 8525 Windows phone. Every HTC phone I've had is always the only one that never gets updates. Other HTC AT&T phones get their updates, but mine don't. I have the worst luck in picking phones.
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Can't speak for the international X+, but I can tell you for a fact, the AT&T X+ will not receive Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 5.5. We will only be getting 4.2.2 Jelly Bean with Sense 5 in January. I don't see us getting 4.3 either. The international X+ will see 4.3, if it hasn't got it already, and 4.4. Just don't hold your breath on the AT&T model. Your outlook is much brighter if you have the international model.
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Do you have documentation of this? I couldn't find anything before on AT&T model getting updates.
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I'm getting rather ticked off at HTC and AT&T. I've been an avid fan/user since an old HTC AT&T 8525 Windows phone. Every HTC phone I've had is always the only one that never gets updates. Other HTC AT&T phones get their updates, but mine don't. I have the worst luck in picking phones.
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Can you tell me what your next phone is going to be? That way I can avoid it...
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