[Q] why can't custom Roms be flashed? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

So I read on safe root method that with a locked bootloader you can't flash Roms or do twrrp or cwm. Coming from a Motorola droid RAZR maxx xt912 and having a locked bootloader I was able to flash any rom for my device and deal with whatever bugs. Is this still true for my note 2 with a locked bootloader?

I also came from the RAZR and I have wondered the same thing. I trust what the Devs say though. I would like to know though whats the difference just for my own personal knowledge.
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mikelikesbikes said:
I also came from the RAZR and I have wondered the same thing. I trust what the Devs say though. I would like to know though whats the difference just for my own personal knowledge.
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Having only done a very short search, my guess is the Droid MAXX is using something like the bootstrap method. While this doesn't unlock the bootloader, it uses an exploit to allow a custom recovery and then custom roms.

Yeah they use Safestrap. I think its the same method that's used on the S4 and N3. I don't think custom kernels can be flashed though so no over clock for them.
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
So I read on safe root method that with a locked bootloader you can't flash Roms or do twrrp or cwm. Coming from a Motorola droid RAZR maxx xt912 and having a locked bootloader I was able to flash any rom for my device and deal with whatever bugs. Is this still true for my note 2 with a locked bootloader?
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I believe there's 2 things in play here. First I believe that device was able to utilize kexec which allowed you to flash kernels and therefor allowed aosp roms. Second, safestrap also comes into play. In theory, safestrap would work for a locked Note 2 but I don't believe anybody has bothered making it work so I can't be sure.

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Could someone please post a Nandroid of the CDMA ICS leak?

As above. Would like to have a tinker to see if it'll boot with the GSM ICS leak kernel and some lib swaps/build.prop edits. Not expecting any joy, but worth a shot, right?
TIA.
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onslaught86 said:
As above. Would like to have a tinker to see if it'll boot with the GSM ICS leak kernel and some lib swaps/build.prop edits. Not expecting any joy, but worth a shot, right?
TIA.
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Straight from my dropbox. Complete stock, unthemed, rooted.
http://db.tt/sK4u1wJM
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Perfect, thanks much.
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Perfect, thanks much.
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Very welcome!
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So, could I just restore from this on verizon cdma razr and have ICS, rooted, without following any of the more complicated methods for already rooted phones?
danam said:
So, could I just restore from this on verizon cdma razr and have ICS, rooted, without following any of the more complicated methods for already rooted phones?
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Not promising anything but there's only one way to find out.
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No, you couldn't because CWM can't flash the radio, bootloader, or kernel updates that the leak runs on.
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No, you couldn't because CWM can't flash the radio, bootloader, or kernel updates that the leak runs on.
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TRUTH!!!
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Damn, can't even get it to flash, CWM spits the dummy on the MD5. Tried using the same boostrap that's included in the data tar, tried recreating the MD5s, tried putting the files in all sorts of folder names, no joy. Kinda wish CWM still used .IMG so I could try fastbooting them, heh.

[Q] Rooting att atrix 4G 2.3.6

my friend wants me to root his atrix 4g which is running android version 2.3.6 stock. And his phone has never been rooted and the bootloader is still locked. I know that I would have to unlock the bootloader. But how would I go about rooting it after I've unlocked bootloader? please someone help
Ps. Already have moto drivers installed because I have a moto xoom
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If you are gonna unlock the bootloader, then you would probably be looking to load a custom ROM. That's really the only reason for unlocking the BL.
After your BL is unlocked, many custom ROMs (like CM7) come with root privileges already...
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ccrows said:
If you are gonna unlock the bootloader, then you would probably be looking to load a custom ROM. That's really the only reason for unlocking the BL.
After your BL is unlocked, many custom ROMs (like CM7) come with root privileges already...
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Yes im planning to flash a custom rom. So I could just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and then flash a custom rom that is pre-rooted?
Because that's what I did when I rooted my xoom.
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i just got a warranty replacement, and it had 2.3.6 on it.
i had to do alot of research. they have a rooting guide via adb on the atrixforum website
and the automatic bootloader unlock in the atrix development thread in xda works.
due note that alot of the NEW atrix's with 2.3.6 dont have the ability to flash sbf, which means the bootloader is unable to be unlocked. Mine worked, so i might have just been lucky
sgtkid12 said:
Yes im planning to flash a custom rom. So I could just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and then flash a custom rom that is pre-rooted?
Because that's what I did when I rooted my xoom.
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If you go custom ROM, then ya Root is usually built in. CM7 I know has it...
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ccrows said:
If you go custom ROM, then ya Root is usually built in. CM7 I know has it...
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Alright. Thanks for the help.
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Punkrocknerd said:
i just got a warranty replacement, and it had 2.3.6 on it.
i had to do alot of research. they have a rooting guide via adb on the atrixforum website
and the automatic bootloader unlock in the atrix development thread in xda works.
due note that alot of the NEW atrix's with 2.3.6 dont have the ability to flash sbf, which means the bootloader is unable to be unlocked. Mine worked, so i might have just been lucky
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Oh man. Thanks for the info. Hopefully mine works too
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Punkrocknerd said:
i just got a warranty replacement, and it had 2.3.6 on it.
i had to do alot of research. they have a rooting guide via adb on the atrixforum website
and the automatic bootloader unlock in the atrix development thread in xda works.
due note that alot of the NEW atrix's with 2.3.6 dont have the ability to flash sbf, which means the bootloader is unable to be unlocked. Mine worked, so i might have just been lucky
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I wonder why Motorola would do such a thing unless they had some sort of contract agreement with the carriers?
All I know is when the BL code leaked, Motorola scrambled insanely fast to try and cover that up, but it was too late. Truth be told, if the BL code never got leaked I would have sold my phone a long time ago. IDK, for me personally I'm probably gonna make it a personal requirement for all my future phones to have BL unlocked before purchasing...
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ccrows said:
I wonder why Motorola would do such a thing unless they had some sort of contract agreement with the carriers?
All I know is when the BL code leaked, Motorola scrambled insanely fast to try and cover that up, but it was too late. Truth be told, if the BL code never got leaked I would have sold my phone a long time ago. IDK, for me personally I'm probably gonna make it a personal requirement for all my future phones to have BL unlocked before purchasing...
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But I can still unlock the boot loader, right?
Edit: I unlocked the boot loader and rooted the phone successfully
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Can anyone put the link up on dropbox for me?
What link? And why are you bumping an ancient thread?
Rooting
I hope this is the right place to put this .
What are the pro's and con's of rooting the atrix ?

2.3.5 custom recovery flashing?

Is it possible to flash a custom recovery with the locked bootloader? I'm used to HTC and am not to familiar with Motorola's Android
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I have already successfully rooted, and attempted to flash CWM recovery from Rom Manager, but I am unable to get to recovery. I tried to unlock the bootloader with RDS Lite flashing derpunlock from the puddin forum, not the 2.3.5, but it failed
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jordan.nave said:
Is it possible to flash a custom recovery with the locked bootloader? I'm used to HTC and am not to familiar with Motorola's Android
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Need to use the boot strap recovery, MOTODX_Bootstrap_Signed.apk. Its based off Clockwork. Make sure you only try to flash locked roms though. If you try and flash anything not supported your more than likely going to be on my boat... Softbricked. I was a flashaholic with my Evo, now im a bricked bum looking for light...
Look in Lokifish Mars Sticky on all thing Mopho. It has links to everything you will need in it.
No you cannot flash a custom recovery on a locked bootloader.
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not possible for now. I tried it already and it is unsuccessful
jordan.nave said:
I have already successfully rooted, and attempted to flash CWM recovery from Rom Manager, but I am unable to get to recovery. I tried to unlock the bootloader with RDS Lite flashing derpunlock from the puddin forum, not the 2.3.5, but it failed.
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I'm in the same boat. I just got a used Photon and it already had the 2.3.5 (45.4.13 254_13) ROM on it. I got it rooted successfully at least, but get the error when trying to install the DERPUNLOCK.SFB file.
Any solutions out there yet? Can the unit be SBF-ed back to 198_7 and then the bootloader unlocked?
(I'm sorry if this is a redundant question, but I haven't found a clear answer and have searched the forums extensively!)
THANKS!
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MeanJellyBean said:
Need to use the boot strap recovery, MOTODX_Bootstrap_Signed.apk. Its based off Clockwork. Make sure you only try to flash locked roms though. If you try and flash anything not supported your more than likely going to be on my boat... Softbricked. I was a flashaholic with my Evo, now im a bricked bum looking for light...
Look in Lokifish Mars Sticky on all thing Mopho. It has links to everything you will need in it.
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Okay, I successfully flashed bootstrap recovery, what ROMS do I need to look out for and not flash?
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Okay, I successfully flashed bootstrap recovery, what ROMS do I need to look out for and not flash?
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What version you on, Android version. 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 ?
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jordan.nave said:
Okay, I successfully flashed bootstrap recovery, what ROMS do I need to look out for and not flash?
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Your only real option is mof2.3.5 unless you want to run a rom that is not supported anymore ie imperium, rocko, skinny. Mofs rom is damn good though. Give it a shot and see what you think.
If your on 2.3.4 go with mofo2.3.5ish if your on 2.3.5, don't flash any roms locked or unlocked. Just be happy your phone works!
The reason being is because will the roms are based on 2.3.4 and since 2.3.5 locked bootloader, anything 2.3.4 based will cause you to soft brick, with no sprint sbf to fall back on. Peetr and mo are actively working on a working sbf for those who are on USC electrify sbf.
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I'm on 2.3.5, and i really don't care about breaking 4G or anything CDMA... Only need GSM if that's possible...
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Signed boot.img with its modules is needed to install after each locked rom.
Don't want to sound like a n00b, but where would those be in the ROM threads? I'm so used to HTC's phones, so going to this Photon makes me feel like I'm starting from scratch...
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Actually nowhere yet. You need to wait.
Ohh okay. I'll just sit back and wait for the devs. Really wish I hadn't traded my Evo LTE for this Photon....
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Any progress on unlocking the bootloader on the OTA 253_13 build?
Still curious about being able to sbf downgrade to 254_7...
And info GREATLY appreciated.

Poll: Unlocked or Locked bootloader?

Hi guys!
Just want to know how many of us have a locked bootloader.
For the ones who do, good luck
My bootloader is unlocked but unfortunately I am stuck here because my phone is on the OTA (wierd I know) and I can't really do anything with the unlocked bootloader. So, here I sit with an unlocked phone and no 4G and nothing I can do except TRY to relock it and possibly brick it.........
Does the official Motorola bootlock removal tool work on the photon, and does it now allow 4G on custom roms? http://m.lifehacker.com/5935837/mot...-bootloader-unlocking-tool-for-android-phones
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edlee said:
Does the official Motorola bootlock removal tool work on the photon, and does it now allow 4G on custom roms? http://m.lifehacker.com/5935837/mot...-bootloader-unlocking-tool-for-android-phones
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the official motorola site says that only the Photon Q will be supported at first, then more devices to follow. No one knows if this will be retro-active towards existing devices. I would assume that if this does get implimented on our Photon 4g, then wimax will not be borked like it is now.
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the official motorola site says that only the Photon Q will be supported at first, then more devices to follow. No one knows if this will be retro-active towards existing devices. I would assume that if this does get implimented on our Photon 4g, then wimax will not be borked like it is now.
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I tried it just for fun. The Photon rejected "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" stating 'unknown.'
To answer the OP's question...
Bootloader = UNLOCKED
Current Rom = CM10 based AOKP Build 8
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I jump back and forth between locked and unlocked on my photon. Currently my photon is locked running mof_2.3.5ish. Waiting on someone to figure out how to root my photon q.
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I unlock-relock constantly. Just this morning I was locked, then I unlocked to try something, then relocked 2 hours later. Once you unlock, if you go back to locked, it's easier to unlock again than it was to start with because you don't have to do the fastboot commands with the unlock code. Just run the derpunlock.sbf again and push your recovery of choice and you're done.
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I unlock-relock constantly. Just this morning I was locked, then I unlocked to try something, then relocked 2 hours later. Once you unlock, if you go back to locked, it's easier to unlock again than it was to start with because you don't have to do the fastboot commands with the unlock code. Just run the derpunlock.sbf again and push your recovery of choice and you're done.
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Very true
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stonesaber said:
I unlock-relock constantly. Just this morning I was locked, then I unlocked to try something, then relocked 2 hours later. Once you unlock, if you go back to locked, it's easier to unlock again than it was to start with because you don't have to do the fastboot commands with the unlock code. Just run the derpunlock.sbf again and push your recovery of choice and you're done.
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Nice
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Locked. I never would have thought the 2.3.5 radio would lock my bootloader permanently lol.
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Locked. permanently thanks to ota
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when i bought my electrify it was locked with 2.3.5..
but it very good working with custom rom, all perfect
Bootloader: Unlocked
Current Rom: JB CNA 3.3.0
First, sorry for my english.
Photon with 2.3.5, i suppose bl locked. How can i assure of this?
but root with torpedo-direct
Enano08 said:
First, sorry for my english.
Photon with 2.3.5, i suppose bl locked. How can i assure of this?
but root with torpedo-direct
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It's pretty certain you are locked my friend.
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latest OTA deceived me :crying:
Sprint and Motorola are pushing Photon 4G out of USA and selling it to Countries like India through ebay just because they are introducing LTE! in US.
I do not understand why they want to lock those phones (selling for about US$600 in India)?
MOTO and Sprint should think about it. If you dont want it anymore and don't support it outside US why locking it and making the life of poor souls miserable?
They should release a 2.3.5 sbf to help those people outside US stuck with Failed to boot 2 / Electrify 2.3.5.
Was locked by accident but traded for unlocked Electrify
You 2.3.5 chaps may be in luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1848352
hasn't been confirmed working on any one elses phone, but he showed a screen shot and it looks like he's done it.

Help with root?

Soo im new with this rooting stuff and my friend was telling me that I need to "install a recovery" with clockwordmod. Im trying to get 4.4 on my phone. can someone explain this to me without sounding to confusing? I am rooted, i have rom manager and super user. But thats as far as I've gotten. Any help would be great, thanks!!
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You got SU permission? Download the CAM loki zip that's is in another forum here. Instructions are there for ya. Super simple and easy as long as you have root permission
unless you on another bootloader than MDK. Only MDK can install recoveries. All others use safestrap
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NicoleS4 said:
Soo im new with this rooting stuff and my friend was telling me that I need to "install a recovery" with clockwordmod. Im trying to get 4.4 on my phone. can someone explain this to me without sounding to confusing? I am rooted, i have rom manager and super user. But thats as far as I've gotten. Any help would be great, thanks!!
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I suggest you do some serious reading here in XDA and there are a number of youtube videos also. Unless you have a S4 that came with MDK base, you can not load any custom recovery out there like phiz or twrp or Cwm and you limited to safestrap and the roms that are specifically compatible with safestrap. Good luck to you.
Yes I definitely agree with reading a lot.... borderline till your eyes bleed. Lol
Joking aside I've been working with android development for a few years now and the s4 can be difficult to understand for someone new to it.
If your on a build that allows you install a recovery then your in luck (mdk). However if you're like the rest of us on a locked bootloader then you need to use the safe strap process.
It's not hard just need to do your research.
Good luck
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Thats me
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Ok, so your on mj7 which means you need to get root if you don't already have it, install safe strap 3.7 and then load a custom rom to one of its rom slots.
I would read the safe strap thread to get more info before you jump into it.
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Thats me
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Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
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So it is possible!!? Im gonna look into safe strap now!!
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NicoleS4 said:
So it is possible!!? Im gonna look into safe strap now!!
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You can flash some custom ROMs, but no custom recovery, no CM (until someone ports it to the Touchwiz kernel), and no AOSP (ditto).
For rooting, go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Read the Safestrap thread in that forum for more info on what you can do to boot custom ROMs.
My phone is already rooted, but I'll read over the thread for more info!!
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