I am sure this is posted but I cannot find the answer but how do I root a stock NAB note 3 without triggering knox? if you have a link I'd really be appreciative.
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I am sure this is posted but I cannot find the answer but how do I root a stock NAB note 3 without triggering knox? if you have a link I'd really be appreciative.
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I'm afraid you can't. The only way to root note 3 without triggering knox was kingo root, but it only worked for 4.3 and no longer works for 4.4 (tried it about a week ago)
you could root 4.3 then upgrade to rooted 4.4 without triggering knox, but i think it's too late for that now for you
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I'm afraid you can't. The only way to root note 3 without triggering knox was kingo root, but it only worked for 4.3 and no longer works for 4.4 (tried it about a week ago)
you could root 4.3 then upgrade to rooted 4.4 without triggering knox, but i think it's too late for that now for you
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Thanks, do you know the easiest way i can root then even trigging knox? as i'm not really sure what knox is for anyway since i dont use the phone for anything but personal use
xtrezpasor said:
Thanks, do you know the easiest way i can root then even trigging knox? as i'm not really sure what knox is for anyway since i dont use the phone for anything but personal use
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This should do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655450
P.S. Triggereing knox will cause your phone to display message about warranty being void on boot. Effectively this voids your warranty with Samsung. People say that Sprint until now did not do much trouble about servicing phones with knox warranty bit tripped. This can change any time.
leond said:
This should do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655450
P.S. Triggereing knox will cause your phone to display message about warranty being void on boot. Effectively this voids your warranty with Samsung. People say that Sprint until now did not do much trouble about servicing phones with knox warranty bit tripped. This can change any time.
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I dont have tep ... so basically i'm all in and i'm off contract so i can always just buy a new phone through sprints easy pay worst case but thank you!
leond said:
This should do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655450
P.S. Triggereing knox will cause your phone to display message about warranty being void on boot. Effectively this voids your warranty with Samsung. People say that Sprint until now did not do much trouble about servicing phones with knox warranty bit tripped. This can change any time.
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Can't change anytime. Root is allowed been for yrs! Read this thread follow link I added to it. To educate your self on sprints policies http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674884
Sent From My 0x1 Note 3.i love tep....
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Rooted this morning with kingo so i could use Viper and tibu, my lockscreen now says "custom", so did i void the warranty yet? I believe I read installing a recovery will trip the knox for sure? And, if i did, can i flash twrp from Goo?
Not new to flashing, but I haven't had a locked bootloader since my DX. Came from note1 and note 2 to the mega.
9wire said:
Rooted this morning with kingo so i could use Viper and tibu, my lockscreen now says "custom", so did i void the warranty yet? I believe I read installing a recovery will trip the knox for sure? And, if i did, can i flash twrp from Goo?
Not new to flashing, but I haven't had a locked bootloader since my DX. Came from note1 and note 2 to the mega.
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I dont think you have voided your warranty.. many people here with bricked phones has sent them to samsung and got them back in working factory cindition.... to my knowledge there is noy twrp for the att.. we still waitimg for that...
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I dont think you have voided your warranty.. many people here with bricked phones has sent them to samsung and got them back in working factory cindition.... to my knowledge there is noy twrp for the att.. we still waitimg for that...
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And waiting, and waiting, and waiting and waiting........
I'm not that concerned with warranty, I wish it had recovery. Most of my phones I've had I voided the warranty the first day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 I don't know if this will work for our phones. I don't know if it's safe, but I thought I'd post it anyways. Read about it originally at androidandme.
Edit: People are reporting it works with the sprint note 3 and doesn't trip Knox.
So far so good
I gave the towel apk a try and I must say an excellent and easy root . I went from slim rom back to nc5 stock uprooted . Down loaded root checker pro then from the stock browser I downloaded the apk file . No problems with my reinstall of twrp. No problems flashing a new rom . Will say that busy box needs to be reinstalled but having no problems at all :good:
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I gave the towel apk a try and I must say an excellent and easy root . I went from slim rom back to nc5 stock uprooted . Down loaded root checker pro then from the stock browser I downloaded the apk file . No problems with my reinstall of twrp. No problems flashing a new rom . Will say that busy box needs to be reinstalled but having no problems at all :good:
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Did it reset your Knox counter when you rooted with towelroot? If so, did the counter stay at 0x0 after you reinstalled TWRP? I'm already rooted and using TWRP so the only advantage to me would be to clear that Knox counter.
Well I have never been concerned with knox so I didn't notice an actual 0x0 but I will say all Samsung apps updated. Also I had no warnings on boot . Until flashing a kernel . Unless I've been told wrong that has little to do with my equipment replacement warranty so my thing with knox is solved with a??
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JimSmith94 said:
Did it reset your Knox counter when you rooted with towelroot? If so, did the counter stay at 0x0 after you reinstalled TWRP? I'm already rooted and using TWRP so the only advantage to me would be to clear that Knox counter.
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+1 about Knox
I could be wrong, but this is only a root method that does not trip knox. It is not meant to reset knox. It is being marketed as a root method.
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+1 about Knox
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Knox was not trigged ! 0X0 !!!!
Since i never had my device rooted and it was never trigged. And it stayed that way.
Full root access!
Note 3 N9005 newest rom
Cool. Glad to hear that and hope it works out for you.
Just gave this a shot. Never rooted this phone before. Finally took the plunge.
Worked a treat! Thank you so much. Will donate.
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Woder if it will root my att s3?
tweeker404 said:
Just gave this a shot. Never rooted this phone before. Finally took the plunge.
Worked a treat! Thank you so much. Will donate.
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Yes, please donate as much as you can to geohot. He deserves it for achieving such a great feat. And it'll encourage him to tackle future manuf and carrier obstructions.
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Also worked on my never rooted Sprint Note 3. Did not trigger knox! Oh I'm on NC5 too.
Confirmed this method worked on NC5, when I get paid Friday I will be donating to this genius!!
Looks very interesting, I may actually try it if it does not trip Knox.
Well, nobody has reported is has so just do it.
It didn't trip knox
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Am I wrong in thinking that rooting isn't what trips KNOX, it's the installing of a custom recovery? I am very excited that this easy root is available and it wont trip KNOX but wont I need a custom recovery in order to flash a custom ROM or anything for that matter. I just want to figure this out before rooting my device.
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Am I wrong in thinking that rooting isn't what trips KNOX, it's the installing of a custom recovery? I am very excited that this easy root is available and it wont trip KNOX but wont I need a custom recovery in order to flash a custom ROM or anything for that matter. I just want to figure this out before rooting my device.
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Ding Ding! That's the question. I'm going to say no one has flashed a recovery after doing this..
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Am I wrong in thinking that rooting isn't what trips KNOX, it's the installing of a custom recovery? I am very excited that this easy root is available and it wont trip KNOX but wont I need a custom recovery in order to flash a custom ROM or anything for that matter. I just want to figure this out before rooting my device.
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Flashing a recovery and/or a kernel will trip Knox.
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Ding Ding! That's the question. I'm going to say no one has flashed a recovery after doing this..
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So if anyone has a link to tell me otherwise i would love to know why Knox is such a concern . i got my note a few weeks after the release and tripped my knox asap .1. if your in contract you most likely have a warranty so bust the sucker into bits and learn a lesson . No updates from sprint or samsung the problem so what !!! i have yet to see an ota compare to the custom roms i run and eventually we will get the update/feature . The absolute only down side i see at this point is most likely the replacement note3 wont have the snapdragon or will it ? sprint usually sends you a refurb . I really ask this honestly I have been flashing for 4 years and barely could chicken peck the keys on my pc when i started . my day to day job is as a master plumber so i never touch computers , but 4 years later and going through an evo,epic 4g touch / briefly a s3 AND A NOTE 3 ON SPRINT NO LESS . I HAVE YET TO SCREW UP MY SAMSUNGS SO BAD THEY TRUELY HARD BRICKED. Im a risk taker I used towel 10 min after i first heard of it . My advice to a total noob is if you think you bricked but it comes on at all its not a brick give it 2 or three days and do your home work most likely a fix will be or is available . If its as sammy from sprint rwilco12 repository is a life saver . Please let me know what IS the trip in tripping knox if any one can and happy flashing. :good: :laugh: took me all them years to finally post in the forums lmao
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
ahrion said:
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
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you might be able to install twrp without tripping knox. but if you use it you will most likely trip knox. custom recoveries , kernels and roms all will trip knox and void your warranty. at least with towelroot you can make plenty of modifications. and keep your warranty intact in case you need it in the future/
ahrion said:
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
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No, flashing a custom recovery WILL trip knox. What do you need that requires a custom recovery? Most mods can just be manually pushed to the proper location without a custom recovery.
I don't really know about tripping knox but you can install twrp through there app from the play store
Been researching into this issue as well. There must be a way around this because on my old AT&T S5, I tried out Alliance Rom via Safestrap and it never seemed to trip knox as far as I could tell. Knox counter was 0x0 when I got rid of that phone. I may hold off and put TWRP when I pay off the EIP on the phone which should be in a few months.
So basically if you towel rooted your device and installed twrp and you tripped Knox there's no way to reverse backup and untripped Knox putting it back to 0x0 is there?
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xda23 said:
So basically if you towel rooted your device and installed twrp and you tripped Knox there's no way to reverse backup and untripped Knox putting it back to 0x0 is there?
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Towel root will not trip knox. Only custom recoveries and custom rom and kernels trip knox. There is no way to get knox back to 0x0 if you trip it. Maybe in the future, but it seem unlikely. Most of the folks that could figure it out , now work for these companies and r not allowed to share info anymore. The companies motto is "If you can not beat them, then hire them."
At the rate android is going, we might as well buy iphones. Good quote that these companies share is "The android people are free to do exactly what they are told to do. "
O.k. so I towel rooted my device how do I flash roms, kernels without tripping knox? Thanks
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xda23 said:
O.k. so I towel rooted my device how do I flash roms, kernels without tripping knox? Thanks
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You can't...yet. Flashing a recovery, which is needed to flash roms, trips knox. You can flash a kernel in ODIN (rarely) but that will trip knox as well since it isn't signed by Samsung.
aooga said:
You can't...yet. Flashing a recovery, which is needed to flash roms, trips knox. You can flash a kernel in ODIN (rarely) but that will trip knox as well since it isn't signed by Samsung.
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Hey is it possible to flash using flashify? Thanks.
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xda23 said:
Hey is it possible to flash using flashify? Thanks.
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You can flash it, but it will still trip knox when you boot into recovery. What I really don't understand (no offense), is why people care about knox. Tmobile doesn't. So unless you live outside the US, it really doesn't matter.
aooga said:
What I really don't understand (no offense), is why people care about knox. Tmobile doesn't.
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If you are planning to use the Jump program, it does matter from what I read on the T-mobile support forum because you will be charged the insurance deductible on the phone if it has been determined that knox has been tripped. One would figure they evaluate these phones to see if they can refurbish them.
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If you are planning to use the Jump program, it does matter from what I read on the T-mobile support forum because you will be charged the insurance deductible on the phone if it has been determined that knox has been tripped. One would figure they evaluate these phones to see if they can refurbish them. I suspect it also would matter in trade-in value too if you try to trade in your knox tripped phone to T-mobile.
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This is totally wrong. There are multiple reports of people jumping with Knox tripped. Even I've done it. No one has said they've had to pay anything because of Knox being tripped.
aooga said:
This is totally wrong. There are multiple reports of people jumping with Knox tripped. Even I've done it. No one has said they've had to pay anything because of Knox being tripped.
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That's good to know.. :good: But how much longer will they not care though? Would be nice if it was indefinite. Would, love to TWRP my S5.
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That's good to know.. :good: But how much longer will they not care though? Would be nice if it was indefinite. Would, love to TWRP my S5.
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I see no reason why they should care. They flash back everything to stock again using Samsung software that resets everything.
All,
I've dug around the Note 3 forums to find a thread addressing the topic in the subject but can't find anything. Back when I rooted my NC5 build there was a how to thread but it doesn't appear to be updated. I have seen TowelRoot but have never used it before. Is it the way to go these days?
Thanks.
PsycloneTW said:
All,
I've dug around the Note 3 forums to find a thread addressing the topic in the subject but can't find anything. Back when I rooted my NC5 build there was a how to thread but it doesn't appear to be updated. I have seen TowelRoot but have never used it before. Is it the way to go these days?
Thanks.
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The NH7 update fixed the exploit that the TowelRoot method was using. The only way to obtain Root with NH7 is the Chainfire Auto-root. Unfortunately, this will trip KNOX. It may be possible for someone to find a new exploit, but one hasn't been found yet.
But your question sparks my curiosity, so please let me pose a question to you: What are your reasons for not wanting to trip KNOX? I'm genuinely curious because outside of Enterprise users, I haven't really seen anyone needing the features of KNOX and it's rare to hear of any issues with Sprint (or Samsung) warranty claims.
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The NH7 update fixed the exploit that the TowelRoot method was using. The only way to obtain Root with NH7 is the Chainfire Auto-root. Unfortunately, this will trip KNOX. It may be possible for someone to find a new exploit, but one hasn't been found yet.
But your question sparks my curiosity, so please let me pose a question to you: What are your reasons for not wanting to trip KNOX? I'm genuinely curious because outside of Enterprise users, I haven't really seen anyone needing the features of KNOX and it's rare to hear of any issues with Sprint (or Samsung) warranty claims.
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Thanks for responding.
The main reason I'm concerned about not tripping KNOX is I suppose I'm paranoid about having an issue if I need to get it serviced. I am not an Enterprise user. I actually have insurance through Best Buy and I doubt that anyone in the store would check the KNOX flag before they put it in a box to ship to the repair facility. I guess I should just lose the paranoia and use Chainfire Autoroot.
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Thanks for responding.
The main reason I'm concerned about not tripping KNOX is I suppose I'm paranoid about having an issue if I need to get it serviced. I am not an Enterprise user. I actually have insurance through Best Buy and I doubt that anyone in the store would check the KNOX flag before they put it in a box to ship to the repair facility. I guess I should just lose the paranoia and use Chainfire Autoroot.
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Just read my thread should answer all your questions, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/samsung-note-3-rom-flashin-basics-t2896440 Enjoy !!!
Thanks!
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Hi,
Sorry to raise the dead here but I can't seem to get a straight answer. I don't care about my warranty. I actually use KNOX mode and was wondering if there's a method where I can root but still have the KNOX mode? Thanks!
I have tried kingroot, kingoroot and kingroot pc version.
All of these are failed can I root without tripping Knox or can I reset my flash counter? (I read flash counter is e-fused)
Galaxy S9+
SM G965F
If there were a way to root WITHOUT tripping Knox, do you think there would ever be a root that did trip it?
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tdevaughn said:
If there were a way to root WITHOUT tripping Knox, do you think there would ever be a root that did trip it?
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Sorry I can't understand English very well, can you explain a little bit? If I root my device with tripping knox (0x1) can I use Samsung Health or Galaxy Wearable and get OTA updates?
I use Samsung Health an Wearable with root, no Problems.
But you don't get OTA Updates anymore.
WodanGrimnar said:
I use Samsung Health an Wearable with root, no Problems.
But you don't get OTA Updates anymore.
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Thank you for helping, my last questions:
Can I download them and install manually or by firechain? This is my first root so will I get important disadvantages?
Download manually.
Beside tripping Knox and no OTA's anymore no disadvantages. Maybe your guarantee is Void after rooting.
Don't do it! It's not worth it. You will lose guarantee. Google Camera is also available without root, if that's one of your reasons.
selimsandal141 said:
can I reset my flash counter? (I read flash counter is e-fused)
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The answer to this is no.
It's an actual fuse that blows.
Jogg3r said:
Don't do it! It's not worth it. You will lose guarantee. Google Camera is also available without root, if that's one of your reasons.
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scottusa2008 said:
The answer to this is no.
It's an actual fuse that blows.
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So what are the disadvantages of knox trip and flash counter other than guarantee?
selimsandal141 said:
So what are the disadvantages of knox trip and flash counter other than guarantee?
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Besides the usual risks involved with a rooted device...
Knox becomes permently disabled and any apps that depend on it will not work.. So Samsung pay, samsung health, secure folders, samsung pass are a few I know of that would not work.
Other apps may also pick up on the knox trip and/or detect the root will also not work.. Depending on the root utility or what's all included with the root used sometimes you can hide the root from some apps, sometimes you can't. I would not suggest being of the mindset that once done you won't have to worry about it.. As apps are updated things can change.
On a a side note there have been ways to get Samsung health to work posted on the internet, but how well they work or for how long may vary.
Samsung Health works without any Problems here, sync with Gear S3 without issues.
Rooted with Magisk, Soldiers Rom and Firmware.
I rooted my Note 9 SM-N960N with Magisk, Knox tripped, but working S-Health, Samsung Pass (with little tweak with the help of Es File Explorer)
Izmile said:
I rooted my Note 9 SM-N960N with Magisk, Knox tripped, but working S-Health, Samsung Pass (with little tweak with the help of Es File Explorer)
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Can you tell us what tweak you did to get Samsung pass to work?
Samsung Pass Working On Rooted Device
ShaDisNX255 said:
Can you tell us what tweak you did to get Samsung pass to work?
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Sorry for the late reply!
Well basically, you just have to rename the Samsung Pass app's extension located in:
1. system/priv-apps folder
2. system/data/app folder
Then reboot your device...
This guy over here found the solution for this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/samsung-pass-knox-tripped-devices-t3687977
Edit:
Original Samsung Pass menu is now replaced with toggle buttons. Flip the toggles and you're set!
Check attached images (I'm rooted, with a custom kernel, working Samsung Pass).
selimsandal141 said:
Sorry I can't understand English very well, can you explain a little bit? If I root my device with tripping knox (0x1) can I use Samsung Health or Galaxy Wearable and get OTA updates?
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First I rooted mine using custom rooted kernel (ElementalX), that time I was not able to use S Health, but this method solved the problem: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306
But I'd recommend you to root your device through Magisk. (You have to install TWRP, then flash Magisk.) It's systemless, this way you can get OTA updates!
It should be worth noteing that the classic root that many users are pointing to will trip knox, however there are methods that do not trip knox but are not exactly the same persistent root methods. Both S7 and S8 had the same problem but yet methods existed that allowed rooting without triggering knox.