Should I Switch to a KitKat ROM? - HTC Droid DNA

I've been running Carbon 4.3 for several months without any problems except for the occasionallow volume and Bluetooth skipping, but those things are liveable. I tried the KK ROMs when they came out but didn't switch for the following reasons:
1. The aosp browser in 4.4 doesn't work well, however I found a potential solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639640
I tried Chrome for a few days and I just don't like it. The aosp browser is so much better IMO.
2.I hate the KK dialer no matter how much I tried to get used to it.
Basically, the things I use my phone for the most (web and phone) has undesirable changes in KK, hence I've avoided the switch to KK.
So my question is, as the KK ROMs have progressed over the last few months have they included a traditional phone app and does the aosp browser work just as well as 4.3 so that I can switch over? I didnt want to clutter the ROM threads with these questions, hence I made this thread.

imo i wouldnt. cfx done a grand job on 4.4 and so did zarboz ( will prob go to 4.4 if his rom goes on farther as battery is ridiculous and so is speed)
but i dont like the dailer my self nor have i found one i like so im going to stay on team gummy 4.2 until im satisfied with and upgrade and i like the pure aosp mode so vanilla lol

Liquid Smooth..... Beast! Lol.
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G

d08speed3 said:
Liquid Smooth..... Beast! Lol.
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G
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I'm sure all the KK ROMs are beasts, we have great developers. But does the aosp browser and traditional dialer work on them, which is my problem.

No I agree. The KK browser crashes time to time, selecting page text can be frustrating, and the dialer is still wonky for me. But....the other pros weigh out the cons for me. I can tell change is hard for you and I understand. I'm the same.
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G

d08speed3 said:
No I agree. The KK browser crashes time to time, selecting page text can be frustrating, and the dialer is still wonky for me. But....the other pros weigh out the cons for me. I can tell change is hard for you and I understand. I'm the same.
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G
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Change isn't hard. I've been running all different types of ROMs since this phone came out, but KK (from what I experienced a few months ago) has some basic features I don't like, hence I was wondering if things have changed since then.
What are the pros that outweigh the cons in your eyes?

Yes use vipe and tweak your phone to how you like.
Crome is a good browser and I love that I can sync my bookmark from my home desktop.

orangechoochoo said:
Change isn't hard. I've been running all different types of ROMs since this phone came out, but KK (from what I experienced a few months ago) has some basic features I don't like, hence I was wondering if things have changed since then.
What are the pros that outweigh the cons in your eyes?
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For me....its what's under the hood. KK is so damn smooth with ART.
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G

d08speed3 said:
For me....its what's under the hood. KK is so damn smooth with ART.
HTC DNA
LG Optimus G
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That's like saying "don't judge me by my looks, there's so much more to me than that".
Carbon ROM 4.3 has been extremely smooth and snappy. I didn't notice any difference when I used the KK ROMs for a few days.
Art doesn't matter if I can't get used to the dialer and browser. But seriously, is the traditional dialer and the aosp browser working fine now or must I suck it up just to have KK and art?

the browser and dailer are still funky acting on my device which can vary but i did see team gummy upgraded to 4.4 so i cant wait to try it out as there aosp mode normally has no issues

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[Q] Looking for my perfect rom

So i got my DNA last week and have been playing around with it for awhile (trying several different roms) but i havent found one that fits me perfectly.
I'm looking for one that is desensed
remap hardware keys
Works with Verizon (though 99% of them do)
Beats audio enabled
HTC keyboard (though i can go without)
The two closest i've gotten is VipersDNA and the Unofficial CM port.
I really like CM only real problem is that beats doesnt really work with it (and i know it has dsp but just doesnt sound as well and i cant get eq perfect)
Viper is almost perfect besides a few nitpicks (I miss my scrollable wallpaper and dont like user a different launcher on top) and i prefer the task manager on CM a bit better (though ive never had the phone lag once which is amazing i like hitting recent and closing all apps, but i can easily go without)
Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried several others but can't find one just right...
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So i got my DNA last week and have been playing around with it for awhile (trying several different roms) but i havent found one that fits me perfectly.
I'm looking for one that is desensed
remap hardware keys
Works with Verizon (though 99% of them do)
Beats audio enabled
HTC keyboard (though i can go without)
The two closest i've gotten is VipersDNA and the Unofficial CM port.
I really like CM only real problem is that beats doesnt really work with it (and i know it has dsp but just doesnt sound as well and i cant get eq perfect)
Viper is almost perfect besides a few nitpicks (I miss my scrollable wallpaper and dont like user a different launcher on top) and i prefer the task manager on CM a bit better (though ive never had the phone lag once which is amazing i like hitting recent and closing all apps, but i can easily go without)
Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried several others but can't find one just right...
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Every phone runs things differently in all reality best to try them all yourself. For me its nos or nos gpe
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cstrife999 said:
Every phone runs things differently in all reality best to try them all yourself. For me its nos or nos gpe
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I tried nos gpe earlier today but had a few to many bugs for me, or I did somthing wrong. It had data connection but my 3g 4g icon wouldn't show and no hardware key remap. And kept giving me no service icon but I could make calls , but that one is super close too
I am on CM 10.1 Right now. Only gripe is the camera, not nearly as good as stock sense since it isn't the sense camera but i can live with it. Some of the customization features dont work either. I wouldn't say it is perfect but it is getting there and the DEVs are doing an amazing job for something that is free. Im just waiting for the bugs on GPE to be worked out so I can switch to that.
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I'm currently on EclipticNA by Hawknest. It's Sense 5 based so you still have Beats Audio and the HTC Keyboard. All system apps and some user apps are blacked out and inverted, which I love. This ROM is VERY fast, and with Crpalmers kernel it's faster than light! For desensing, just freeze or uninstall Sense, and use whatever other launcher you want. Recent apps button is remapable. There's "press for recents", "press for recents, hold for menu", and "press for menu, hold for recent".
Other than that, when all the kinks in Newt's GPE ROM get worked out, that would be good for your needs.
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Romwise
Firstly I wanna start out by saying that having to post 10x before i can post to help development is annoying. But i do understand why. So im posting this as my first post to start my way to be able to help development. Im currently rocking a Droid dna. Roms Ive so far liked for this phone Ill list with a brief reason why in order.
1. Team Venom Viper rom. Fast stable and mods out the bum. No issues
2. EclipticNa inverted. Best sense 5 rom to me. Fast stable and saves so much battery with the invert
3. Supercharged hatka. Pretty fast decent mods. And stable.
Ive flashed and used 8 of the roms from xda for the dna so far. When Im able to post for development Ill start giving detailed reviews and helping the devs out. U guys can help a guy out by giving me a thumbs up or something. Thanks.
kitex2 said:
I tried nos gpe earlier today but had a few to many bugs for me, or I did somthing wrong. It had data connection but my 3g 4g icon wouldn't show and no hardware key remap. And kept giving me no service icon but I could make calls , but that one is super close too
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There is a new version of NOS GPE out, version 1.0.3, which fixed all the force reboot and data issues for me, all I had to do was cycle airplane mode two or three times for it to pick up Verizon's connection. Smoothest ROM I've tried so far.
It makes sense that it would work well, because it's coming from an AOSP rom made by HTC for the One. I've had problems with small things not working on other custom ROMs, like HDMI. GPE 1.0.3 has no issues like that so far.
GreenfireX said:
There is a new version of NOS GPE out, version 1.0.3, which fixed all the force reboot and data issues for me, all I had to do was cycle airplane mode two or three times for it to pick up Verizon's connection. Smoothest ROM I've tried so far.
It makes sense that it would work well, because it's coming from an AOSP rom made by HTC for the One. I've had problems with small things not working on other custom ROMs, like HDMI. GPE 1.0.3 has no issues like that so far.
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I believe it's Sense based to look like AOSP, hence the name Google Experience.
orangechoochoo said:
I believe it's Sense based to look like AOSP, hence the name Google Experience.
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According to newtoroot it's the HTC version of AOSP 4.3 made for the Google Play Edition of the One, so it should be as close to stock as possible..... It also has no hints of sense in any of the apps or menus....
GreenfireX said:
According to newtoroot it's the HTC version of AOSP 4.3 made for the Google Play Edition of the One, so it should be as close to stock as possible..... It also has no hints of sense in any of the apps or menus....
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
pio_masaki said:
Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
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True, I guess ultimately it's the best AOSP ROM available for the DNA, although I'd love to see a team like Venom come out with a more custom experience based off of it.
"Anandtech's Brian Klug discovered that both the Developer Editions of the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S 4 will not receive software updates directly from Google because they're not running pure Android Open Source Project (AOSP) software, but instead a combination of the OEM kernel and the stock Android skin. As a result, the Google Play edition devices may not receive new Android versions as quickly as standard Nexus devices."
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...one-and-galaxy-s-4-arent-quite-nexus-devices/
I'm still wondering what other "stuff" is in the Google Editions; pure AOSP is under 200 MB, add gapps which is under 100 MB, and then there's _____?
pio_masaki said:
Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
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newts work gas always been top notch. when something goes wrong, he has it fixed asap. pretty quick about it too. been following since my dinc2 days
-HTC Droid DNA-
If your looking for a Sence 5 Rom , you must try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44076330 by hawknest, it is a beautiful rom
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JWhetstone02 said:
newts work gas always been top notch. when something goes wrong, he has it fixed asap. pretty quick about it too. been following since my dinc2 days
-HTC Droid DNA-
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I had issues with version 1 and 2, but 3 has been on my phone since he released it and only had an initial data issue (put the phone in airplane mode twice and it fixed it)
Hopefully by now he OP has narrowed down his choices, so continuing with another subject that came up: why have an original development and a development forum?
Is the distinction that an original development ROM is compiled from source even if the ROM has cherry-picks from another ROM and is based on something such as CM, while the development forum are for ROMs that are ported from one device to another which is made to fit over the Sense base since there is no public Sense source to compile from, or is a modification of a manufacturer's ROM?
orangechoochoo said:
Hopefully by now he OP has narrowed down his choices, so continuing with another subject that came up: why have an original development and a development forum?
Is the distinction that an original development ROM is compiled from source even if the ROM has cherry-picks from another ROM and is based on something such as CM, while the development forum are for ROMs that are ported from one device to another which is made to fit over the Sense base since there is no public Sense source to compile from, or is a modification of a manufacturer's ROM?
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Built from source = original development
Built from a factory ROM or otherwise pre compiled image, including from other devices (this covers current MIUI as well) = development
The Roms in development because they have cherry picks but are source built should be in original development, but whatever the mods decide I guess.
That's how I understood it when it was originally posted by XDA when it started.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - MoKee

Is it just me or...

are these newer android phones giving more reasons to stay stock? I have found with the G2 that I have no want (or need) right now to root/ROM this phone. Usually when I get a new phone the first thing I do is root it, clear all that carrier crap out, or simply flash CM for that stock android experience; I just have not found that need with the G2.
So, what is the point of this thread?
I want to know everyone's thoughts about this. Are you rooted...are you stock....and why you are or are not?
If you are rooted, I would also like to know what ROM/Kernel/etc you are running.
Thanks!
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
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vPro97 said:
Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
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The main reason I usually root/rom is for speed and battery life....as we all know the G2 doesnt lack anything in either. I use the greenify beta as well and have noticed a huge difference in my battery life. The only thing tempting me to root is Titanium Backup but I have been fighting it because I'm so damn happy with the phone as it sits.
andydumi said:
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
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andydumi said:
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
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Link for adblock? Or at least point me in right direction
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
I'm rooted and stock. Stock rocks. I'm also running g2 xposed. With this you have all the customizations on aosp but on stock Rom
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Xenovias said:
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
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if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
I like the stock ROM with xposed, but now I'm on AOSP, because micro stuttering on stock started to bug me, even if it was barely noticeable.
thoughts....
Flashing is so played out for me. A new feature gets added and something else breaks and needs to be fixed...repeat.
.....At this point just root and do your own thing(s).
But I have not did anything to this phone, it works just fine.
I'm stuck but rooted with a few xposed modules, adblock and of course the camera mod. Now it's perfect! Never been this happy with a device. I played with AOSP kk and that was fun for awhile. I came from a gnex previously, which I loved despite the shortcomings.
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I have 3x VS980s. Two are happy with being 100% stock.
I rooted mine from day1, but stayed with stock-based ROM for a month as I was happy with stockLG (I can satisfy my flashing urges with
my N7) ... Then I decided to explore the latest/greatest of Android on this phone... I would never go back to stock and don't even care when/if LG
would release a stock 4.4.x (OK, maybe we need the new OEM kernel source).
ROM+gapps are normally ~200MB instead of a huge download.
I get to try so many features out .. I can switch to other ROM (or even my Stock) Backups in a few minutes, if my mood changes.
Not that I fully need those features ... just the feeling of doing things freely.
I'm currently staying with Mahdi ... lean, fast, so-many-features, no issues (I had some freezes/reboots on early releases, still no biggies then).
DirtyUnicorns is great too, but may need some little time to smooth out the little bugs
Played around like 3 days with roms, i turned into a flashaholic, flex, non flex, tried so many roms and at the end of this, im on stock rooted now. i bought G2 Xposed (0,70 € - definitely worth!) and now it looks cool, its fast, stable, what else do i need? Darker UI? For what exactly? I actually using apps and not the starving at the settings and think "wow cool, its dark". no need, really. im pretty happy currently with full stock rooted. the next days i will customize my homescreen a bit and then its ready. just wait for 4.4
YOLO
Stock, rooted, debloated, xposed to get rid of GPS and dual wifi/lte notifications.
I'm coming from the HTC Rezound. I usually go for CM, but am very impressed with the LG interface. I have been tempted to try a flex Rom, but am happy having a phone that everything works, and has amazing battery life.
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tylerjames09 said:
if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
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Their not a flex rom for sprint.
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After flashing my Galaxy Nexus several times a week, and sometimes a few times in a day, for two years, I fully expected that I'd be doing the same with the G2. But I've been very pleasantly surprised at the speed, smoothness, features and battery life with stock. Stock has also been incredibly stable for me, No FC's, no lockups.
The stocks apps are much better than I expected -- the functionality has been excellent. I'm keeping an eye on the various sub-forums here for the G2, and may wind up flashing something new, but so far, I don't see anything more appealing than stock, and I'm not ready to give up the stock features. I may wind up with Flex, but I'm also guessing that there will be an update for the G2 sometime in the next 2 or 3 months, and my guess is that it may have some of the extra feature's we're seeing today in the Flex ROM. For now - I'm happy to remain stock, experiment with themes for the stock launcher and simply enjoy this fantastic phone. Still feels weird, as this is the first phone I've had where I'm really happy with stock.
^^Same exact situation for me,I'm loving the g2,just need to get rid of some of the bloat. But something deep inside really wants to start flashing away,but it's just too good as is, I stopped after root and recovery.
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I rooted first to get rid of all the status bar icons. Overkill lol I don't need to know NFC or WiFi is on. And with xposed tweaks, its all I need. I have zero interested in an asop ROM. Using flex and love it
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My Thoughts on the LG OPTIMUS G

Getting Real sick & tired of the Optimus G, thinking seriously about selling it & getting an LG G3 or an HTC ONE M8, ever since KK ROMS came to the picture, kernel development & ROM development have been slow, now i'm facing issues with screen, when swiping in the drawer it freezes on every single swipe i make, no mods no additional kernels the lag & battery drainage it's just.... terrible, used of recommended GAPPS, LG is so stubborn not releasing the stock e970 ROM, by the time we get the update, Nexus or other devices would have something even greater than "android L" like always devices get left behind, don't know why google said no device will ever get left behind ever again... oh yeah sure!! say that to the mayor stubborn carriers that take so long to push the OTA'S like always AT&T -.-
Yeah, well... just expresing how i feel about the device now lol sick of the 4.4.4 ROMS JB was the best that work on my device & had stellar performance & battery. now it's just crap. Switching to 4.4.2 stock port. only good KK ROM for the E970.
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Getting Real sick & tired of the Optimus G, thinking seriously about selling it & getting an LG G3 or an HTC ONE M8...
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Yeah, well... just expresing how i feel about the device now lol sick of the 4.4.4 ROMS JB was the best that work on my device & had stellar performance & battery. now it's just crap. Switching to 4.4.2 stock port. only good KK ROM for the E970.
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Sounds like you might have a lemon/broken phone. If you hate it, yes, ditch it. But many people (me included) are quite happy with the OG. I've tried a bunch of ROMs, and most were mostly okay, but I've been running CM milestones and nightlies for several months now with little trouble. In fact, performance has been good, by my standards, and the battery still lasts all day with moderate use. I've only had the thing for about 9 months but I'm usually at least thinking about upgrading or what to get next by this point - not so with the OG.
I'll probably start looking at other phones when I get super bored some day next winter, maybe a used G3 or some HTC, who knows. As for the development, I haven't been reading much here lately because I haven't had problems or time and energy to tinker. But I've been very happy with the help here and have found the OG devs to be eminently qualified. (I have never posted here much but I've been reading the site for years, through about 6 different devices. All my questions had usually already been answered before I could ask them, and I am not a developer.)
Sorry the E970 hasn't worked out as well for you as for some. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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Sounds like you might have a lemon/broken phone. If you hate it, yes, ditch it. But many people (me included) are quite happy with the OG. I've tried a bunch of ROMs, and most were mostly okay, but I've been running CM milestones and nightlies for several months now with little trouble. In fact, performance has been good, by my standards, and the battery still lasts all day with moderate use. I've only had the thing for about 9 months but I'm usually at least thinking about upgrading or what to get next by this point - not so with the OG.
I'll probably start looking at other phones when I get super bored some day next winter, maybe a used G3 or some HTC, who knows. As for the development, I haven't been reading much here lately because I haven't had problems or time and energy to tinker. But I've been very happy with the help here and have found the OG devs to be eminently qualified. (I have never posted here much but I've been reading the site for years, through about 6 different devices. All my questions had usually already been answered before I could ask them, and I am not a developer.)
Sorry the E970 hasn't worked out as well for you as for some. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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went to 4.3 the issue for me is KK they don't work for me, only KK ROM that work is gorabus excellent dev one thing i forgot to mention, it's not that i'm hating on the development on this thred it's just that i feel limited & hate limitations, have you've seen the Nexus community? most of the known devs that were making ROMS for this device jumped out. i just miss the good old days :/ might keep the phone for an emergency phone or something phone works it's just KK issue, ever since [4.4.2-4.4.4]. but i'm definitely getting a newer device.
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went to 4.3 the issue for me is KK they don't work for me, only KK ROM that work is gorabus excellent dev one thing i forgot to mention, it's not that i'm hating on the development on this thred it's just that i feel limited & hate limitations, have you've seen the Nexus community? most of the known devs that were making ROMS for this device jumped out. i just miss the good old days :/ might keep the phone for an emergency phone or something phone works it's just KK issue, ever since [4.4.2-4.4.4]. but i'm definitely getting a newer device.
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I feel the same. I had Nexus 4 but sold it to buy a Nexus 5, dropped the Nexus 5 on my motorcycle... switch back to the Optimus G after replacing the screen twice (both times my fault). But my OptimusG keeps kicking. The CM11 20140802 build has been good to me, everything from M6 - to a recent nightly on CM11 was flaky for me (UI issues). Thanks to the folks @ CM this includes the fixed encryption fstab so I can feel secure again without having to hack up a ROM manually.
You can't really expect LG to update a 2 year-old phone. There is almost no incentive for them to do so when most people don't care. I'm waiting for the next Google nexus phone. Buying anything other then a Nexus product or something like the Galaxy S5 will put you down the same path again.
The stock KK port is decently usable.. I'm switching to it as well
This has become pretty much a legacy device but still better than most older phones.
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I am using this Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440
[ROM][E970/E971/E973]LG Official Kitkat 4.4.2[stock].
Stock KK for the LG and it has been great. From eco mode to notification light to battery and qslide apps everything works and battery has been pretty well. So yeah CM11 KK or CM Kitkat roms in general for the lg g aren't very stable in my experience and have not really good battery life. But this stock kitkat Rom is much better and really doesn't give me a huge reason to switch to an different phone despite having a OnePlusOne and a Xperia Z2. I would say the LG G still holds up very well against all of them.
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I have to agree. I have also been using the stock kitkat port, this rom here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440
And it's been fantastic for me overall.
Didn't use many custom roms as it hasn't been a long time since I got this phone.
I rooted it on ics and installed this kitkat rom. Then I tried Slick JB rom but i ended up coming back to this rom again due to the smoothness and stability. Haven't had one crash.
Well yes if this phone did receive an official KitKat update, it would still be a beast. But you can't really blame a device for underperforming based on the ROM development, those are people who volunteered their time to put ROMS on this device especially since the LGOG is almost approaching an age of 2 years.
I've been using CM 11 and it has worked great, vanilla android is the way to go its simple and fast. But I understand that many users (including myself) love the theming aspect of a phone that makes it look like its officially from the brand (ex. TouchWiz or Sense). LG has its unique theme on their successors such as the G2 or G3 and it would great on a KK update to the LGOG.
But its really up to the user on what phone they really want. The LGOG is still fast but if you upgrade now all you'll be really getting is a faster, bigger, and better camera. But still the OG is pretty beast
Yeah I like my LGOG but it's time for me anyways to move on up the ladder. I did my Samsung stint but I like the underdog LG. So I'm getting a G2. Actually got 2 of them I'm repairing. I like the themes CM has to offer but LG's stock interface is really cool. Just my 2 cents.

Some basic ROM feedback + MODs suggestion (D802)

I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
sadinoide said:
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
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Unfortunately I haven't tried all the ROMs, so can't give you any suggestion on them.
As for custom kernels and ART, I have been using whatever comes with the ROMs. The result on PA is so good (7.5 hours screen on time with 22% battery left), I never found myself in the situation of needing to tweak anything. Kernel is generally my last choice, because it is a lot of trial and error. The last I tried ART was when it was still in beta, I should really give it a go now it is more stable.
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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When I first switched to AOSP roms I missed them a lot. Fortunately there is a mod for the quick remote but none for Qslide. Either way you'll find yourself not needing Qslide after some time.
mab71 said:
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
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I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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I tried Qslide on stock, then never used it again. For me spliting the screen in half means i can't see much of anything. I think it might be useful when you get used to it, but I never really got used to it.
I never used Qremote because I don't own anything which requires a remote.
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
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lavafire said:
I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
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Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
albsat said:
Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
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Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
slowdyve said:
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
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Unfortunately the camera on PA is also pretty disappointing, in my experience anything that is not based on stock ROMs has bad camera experience.
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I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
albsat said:
I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
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Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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lavafire said:
Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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Thanks man. I did try it. After restoring sms, the Android. process message kept popping up, and reinstalling from beginning was a bit too lazy by my side. There is a cm version based on stock kernel which looks promising for what I am looking for, so I am keeping an eye on this CM version. Thanks again.
lavafire said:
I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Nice write up! I used Mahdi, PA and CloudyG3 and agree with your comments. I'm currently running cloudyg3 and would like to add a few notes to those who are interested. Disabling all the animations does speed things up for me and the dev made the G3 Tweakbox features all free. PA is my second favorite ROM, super smooth and stable. If camera was better on PA, it would be my daily driver.
lavafire said:
Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
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upload please the latest test build
goila said:
upload please the latest test build
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Wish I downloaded it before the link died, but people commented saying they are unstable so I didn't download it. But I think it should be released today (3rd Nov) on the PA thread.
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I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
player911 said:
I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
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Yeah G3 Rom are very stable only some hiccups when you have too many apps open, apart from that everything is pretty good. Camera is normally the main selling point for most
Also I think going from stock -> G3 ROMs -> AOSP is a pretty good way going about it.
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What do you suggest

HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.4.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
stewbuntu said:
HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.2.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
ohlin5 said:
First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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My bad 4.4.2 and I do see 10B build # KVT49L.VS98510B model # has 10b too
Thanks guys, good info and stuff to research
Colchiro said:
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
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I knew I didn't want Samsung/[email protected] so I spent a while looking at other options and the G3 seemed great with Micro SD and replaceable battery. I can't understand what companies are thinking with no SD slot and not being able to swap batteries when they go bad, or on the fly (although I do 12 hr shifts). Ever since my Motorolla Atrix 3G I have missed glitch free daily drivers My fingers are crossed
So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
stewbuntu said:
So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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Locked bootloaders is why I switched to LG. I'm not alone.
I haven't tried any custom roms. I don't like to lose some of the features I like, like knock and stock camera, so haven't messed with custom roms for a couple years. Debloated stock G3 works fine for me....
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