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I REALLY want to root and apply a custom rom. I'm not concerned about breaking it though rooting, my main concern is that if some hardware in it is just waiting to break after I root it I have no way to send it to Asus and get it fixed since my warranty will be void. So is their any other recourse besides Asus like a outside company that can fix it. I don't mind paying someone to fix it once the warranty is void(just don't to have to buy another one) since I'm getting the benefit of putting the software I want on it. Thanks to anyone with ideas .
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I REALLY want to root and apply a custom rom. I'm not concerned about breaking it though rooting, my main concern is that if some hardware in it is just waiting to break after I root it I have no way to send it to Asus and get it fixed since my warranty will be void. So is their any other recourse besides Asus like a outside company that can fix it. I don't mind paying someone to fix it once the warranty is void(just don't to have to buy another one) since I'm getting the benefit of putting the software I want on it. Thanks to anyone with ideas .
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Squaretrade has 2 yr warranty, Accidental Damage and hadling as well, for $99 ...cheaper if you can find a coupon code. There is a thread going in the General section.
Apparently they are very reputable, I got one myself a couple of weeks ago.
fd4101 said:
I REALLY want to root and apply a custom rom. I'm not concerned about breaking it though rooting, my main concern is that if some hardware in it is just waiting to break after I root it I have no way to send it to Asus and get it fixed since my warranty will be void. So is their any other recourse besides Asus like a outside company that can fix it. I don't mind paying someone to fix it once the warranty is void(just don't to have to buy another one) since I'm getting the benefit of putting the software I want on it. Thanks to anyone with ideas .
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Honesty, I would wait to ROOT and unlock. I rooted/unlocked and now Asus has my serial number blacklisted. I knew all this going in and didn't care, because that is what Android is too me...freedom,choice, and making my device how I want it to be. But, now I'm finding there isn't much gained from root/unlocking. I've tried the 3 top ROMS, and 2 of them were 95% stock and added no features or functionality. The one I'm on now is AOKP and it's the best so far with fairly nice features and mods, but because its still in the works, it has problems with the dock, games and apps comparability, and it sometimes freezes and reboots, therefore I wouldn't recommend rooting/unlocking for ROMs. The Primes is fairly new,so more mods and ROMs will be coming for sure. I would definately root and unlock, but not just yet.
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Honesty, I would wait to ROOT and unlock. I rooted/unlocked and now Asus has my serial number blacklisted. I knew all this going in and didn't care, because that is what Android is too me...freedom,choice, and making my device how I want it to be. But, now I'm finding there isn't much gained from root/unlocking. I've tried the 3 top ROMS, and 2 of them were 95% stock and added no features or functionality. The one I'm on now is AOKP and it's the best so far with fairly nice features and mods, but because its still in the works, it has problems with the dock, games and apps comparability, and it sometimes freezes and reboots, therefore I wouldn't recommend rooting/unlocking for ROMs. The Primes is fairly new,so more mods and ROMs will be coming for sure. I would definately root and unlock, but not just yet.
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Rooting doesn't void the warrenty if Asus doesn't know, and it's not done with the Asus boot unlocker, it doesn't do any harm generally to root it.
I've known for some time that the app permissions and data about us being sent to companies via our 'free' apps has always been scandelous. If you don't know about this, there are countless studies by reputable organisations, simply google it.
Like many of us here, I've owned a number of hot Xperia phones, and a few days ago got a new one! But, I updated an app, and when I opened it, I got a shock with how far the permissions are going. The updated app said note: we're going to collect this data about your device. The three pieces that pi**ed me off today are:
1. Phone number
2. Android device ID
3. Info. about all apps on phone
If you're famialiar with why Facebook is one of the greatest marketing successes of our time, then you probably, like me, like to protect your privacy on your phone. I don't think Google is all bad, and there are so many apps which help you in this regard.
Without voiding the warranty of my new phone, I cannot yet get root. I need root to install all sorts of apps which help protect me and my life. Would you tell a stranger on the street your name, age, what's on your phone, phone number, the sites you visit etc? I wouldn't do that. I'm frustrated right now, caught between saving my new warranty and not selling my life for a few stupid 'free' games. I think there is a misstep here. OK the manufacturers let us modify software at our own risk, but they sell the stories of our phones living in an app heaven/bountyland/happy place, but don't do anything to help us protect our privacy.
I agree with you completely. But there are methods to root your phone without unlocking the bootloader (if you still think they will discover, you just have to flash a stock firmware before taking to the store and done)
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Thanks buddy. I've tried all locked-bootloader roots available in this section, flashtool and others.
p.s. for anyone interested in one in this stuff, probably my favourite app (requires root) is LBE Privacy Guard. I used it on other Xperias and there's nothing it can't do!
Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow, you can't post anything on this site without an irrelevant sarcastic answer.
Why can't you just root using this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Straight forward and quick. Then if you need to send your phone in just flash back to your standard stock firmware??
Thanks very much! I have tried that one though, and posted a report - it fails on my phone. It works for some phones (especially the S and P) but not on all the 2012 Sony phones. I've rooted a few phones before, so I check all the things you have to do and can't find the problem. No one with my phone has posted success with that tool so I doubt it's just me.
I seen in the data usage, some of the free apps have been upload a LOT of data, when they have no reason to e.g. a free live wallpaper. It makes me so angry I just want to nuke the software and not install anything new until root is sorted.
I think it's high time that I present myself. I'm not as noob as I can be in the forums. Yes, I don't know Android, since electronics isn't my field of working anymore. I have studied electronics and went for a master in Engineering Physics so I'm not a newbie when it comes to hardware.
Just that I got this (stupid?) 30-year crisis and went for an MD instead.
My foremost field of working has been Unix, but I'm schooled in lower levels and had done both VHDL/Erlang projects and have been really fluent in asm. But that was a LONG time ago when Motorola 68xxx was the ruler (oh, the ****ing best cpu ever made code-wise).
The aversion and stop for asm-coding came with Inter and that was around the 486-time when you had to fiddle with the memory and stuff.
I have kept parts on my knowledge. Did a SOC for a big company with a linux that I pressed in on 128 kb of Rom but I'm not up to date with arm-asm and I can say that the last time I ever coded something was around 1996 since I started with design/capacity planning of hardware and management.
So the time has flown by. I'm a C-coder. Never coded a line of Java in my line. I'm also from Sweden and I don't know where you are from but if you are from USA we have quite some different rules here, especially when it comes to consumer law that can be used for us.
Ok. Enough **** about me.
I called Samsung today and this is a summary of the conversation I had.
I asked them about why the consumers had to use the Knox and how to pass it as a developer.
He could not answer it.
I asked if I trip the flag, why does it forbid me to sideload my own developed applications?
He could not answer it.
I asked how to remove it since as a consumer I had no use for it and this is something that I have not signed up for.
He said that I could send in my phone and have it reflashed to a lower version of the firmware.
I asked for specifications about it and said that knew it's a SE-linux containter (because it is).
That he could confirm.
I asked him what for specifications for the boot loader since it hinders me in my work.
He said that the only thing he could provide was a downgraded one (see above)
I said that I don't want a downgraded one since all use 4.3 and that is the future.
He could not provide that.
I said that maybe this is a deal that Samsung has done with NSA to provide them with information since I don't know what the phone sends out since I'm locked out of the kernel.
He said that he understood that he would feel the same sentiment.
I asked him if consider us who are developing on a low lever as valuable people the brings the phone forward.
He agreed.
I told him that I don't consider tripping the Know-flag to invalidate my warranty since it could be tripped in Kies (as reported here).
He agreed on that and told me that I could then contact the service for a reflash.
I told him that the option left then would be to crack the boot-loader as with the rooting.
He said yes.
Note that this is in Sweden. But the info in any case is interesting since he very well knew about this.
So the info I got. Yes. It's a Se-linux container and it is reflashable. Since it's reflashable we now know that it's not an e-Fuse and can leave that question. Since it's software it's crackable.
Seems high time for me to start to update myself on arm-asm. I got lazy with VHDL/Erlang
Also, this has not been the field of my quite messy life. Going from electronics to computers and Unix towards medicine.
I don't have a J-TAG. What do you guys use? What have you found so far?
Do we have access to the very beginning of the boot strapping?
With that I mean the first asm-lines that the phone do as a start. Is that hardware or is that software?
In this case. Could someone please provide me with that. As I said. I don't know Arm-asm yet, but I'll try to freshen myself. Asm is asm and the last thing I did with Arm was working with a Xlinix that had 2 cores in the die and then a VHDL-part. Really nifty. But that was 10 years ago.
My other problem is time, like you all, since I'm guessing you work full time.
But can someone update me or give me links to white-papers etc on how the phone starts? I guess there is quite little about it. It's not the glorious days where you could get papers on the clock-penalties and how revolutionary it was when you could do an instruction on both the edges of the clock-wave.
Sorry. I type a lot, but I really hate this and yes, people can say what they want. When Ericsson still made phones I had a special firmware that showed a LOT more then what a normal user would get and how chatty the phones are without us knowing. So the option of spreading the "Samsung has made a deal with NSA" WILL scare people whatever you think. I have done "activist" things before and you just have to present it as a theory and get to the point where the rumor will get viral.
I was truly amazed when my complaint against RIIA went viral and the "Govermental institution for internet privacy" got over 5000 complaints in one day. Don't know how that works in other countries but every document that you send here is official and need to be filed. We also have the reverse policy that seems to be a bit unique. Everything is open until it's classified as not public. Not otherwise as it seems in most countries.
Ok, off topic. You have to live with that if you want my help that I'm offering here.
Where are you know in the dissaembly of the boot-loader? SE-linux CAN be cracked but if t's scrabled with hardware it makes it a bit harder.
Ok, enough from me. Want me to start to dig with the Cortex-chip? I know that Qualcom are more then happy to provide white-papers on their chip. Just a matter of cost.
/Paul
Download the open source kernel and build it from source. Use ida for analysis and the qualcomm and Samsung boot procedure documents are around you have to search though.
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Surge1223 said:
Download the open source kernel and build it from source. Use ida for analysis and the qualcomm and Samsung boot procedure documents are around you have to search though.
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Ok, I've seen that some use a modded build-chain for it. Is that just modded for speed or what is modded and where can you get it?
/Paul
Btw, got a i9506 today. Will be interesting. Also got An Note 3 and that has 4.3. Both are "pre-knoxed". Need a good burn-in software before i start to root them. Know any?
I have not noticed this behavior before but although they are connected to a Wifi they still search every 15 s or so for others. I don't recall if my old one did that? My HTC doesn't.
But anyone now how the phone boots-strap? It's too late after having a kernel.
Since it makes it before it loads it, it's not a real SE-kernel because then the custom ones would work without even touching Know, would they. And they trip the flag.
So the check must be done earlier? Besides, are the kernel sources enforcing MAC? I have not set up a build env yet so that's all the questions.
And any good J-Tag that you recommend?
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You might send it in, if yours is qfused like the ATT model they will have to resign the MDL bootloader with a certificate that has not been invalidated by the qfuse.
If they do that, you can extract it and we will atleast be able to flash back the i9505.
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TheEgonSpengler said:
You might send it in, if yours is qfused like the ATT model they will have to resign the MDL bootloader with a certificate that has not been invalidated by the qfuse.
If they do that, you can extract it and we will atleast be able to flash back the i9505.
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Do you still think it's actually an e-fuse? If they can "reflash" it as I got the info yesterday that means that the e-fuse is in the prom because how else could they just change it?
I'm still not sure about the fuse thing? Do we have that black on white that it's the case?
Because I think that they have just a small SE-Linux in the bootloader and then they can enforce all the rules they want. Your phone will behave
basically like a jailed Unix-account and the only success in cracking it is to prevent it to load. There is no other way.
I just sent a long and nice mail to Samsung. Will see if they contact me tomorrow.
I basically asked them why it's enforced on us private citizens and if we should start to openly question the motives on Samsung in different
mobile user forums. Because I will. Would be happy if someone would follow suit and help out.
Bad publicity is something that is hard to get rid off. Also, we never got an opt-in/out.
And if they start to get it it WILL scare them. I've done that before but not on this scale.
If need be I will drag them through our Consumer department. They are not so fun if they bite on the case and it just cost me time to write a letter of complaint to them.
"Freedom loving" Sweden will not accept spy-ware on their phones. That is one of the strong thing here. Consumer power and the equivalent for governmental issues.
Well, I'll report tomorrow. Btw, I got my new phone yesterday and it was a I9506.
They don't sell the I9505 anymore and the prel result with plain kernel is that it's about the same speed as Note 3.
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Do you still think it's actually an e-fuse? If they can "reflash" it as I got the info yesterday that means that the e-fuse is in the prom because how else could they just change it?
I'm still not sure about the fuse thing? Do we have that black on white that it's the case?
Because I think that they have just a small SE-Linux in the bootloader and then they can enforce all the rules they want. Your phone will behave
basically like a jailed Unix-account and the only success in cracking it is to prevent it to load. There is no other way.
I just sent a long and nice mail to Samsung. Will see if they contact me tomorrow.
I basically asked them why it's enforced on us private citizens and if we should start to openly question the motives on Samsung in different
mobile user forums. Because I will. Would be happy if someone would follow suit and help out.
Bad publicity is something that is hard to get rid off. Also, we never got an opt-in/out.
And if they start to get it it WILL scare them. I've done that before but not on this scale.
If need be I will drag them through our Consumer department. They are not so fun if they bite on the case and it just cost me time to write a letter of complaint to them.
"Freedom loving" Sweden will not accept spy-ware on their phones. That is one of the strong thing here. Consumer power and the equivalent for governmental issues.
Well, I'll report tomorrow. Btw, I got my new phone yesterday and it was a I9506.
They don't sell the I9505 anymore and the prel result with plain kernel is that it's about the same speed as Note 3.
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This link should shed some light on the qfuse situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30781353
I believe this is specifically for the i9506 as the qualcomm chip in yours is a different prefix (though they are very similar in construction to my novice eye, the boot process is still a bit magical to me though so grain of salt all that.)
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TheEgonSpengler said:
This link should shed some light on the qfuse situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30781353
I believe this is specifically for the i9506 as the qualcomm chip in yours is a different prefix (though they are very similar in construction to my novice eye, the boot process is still a bit magical to me though so grain of salt all that.)
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Actually they hotted up the phone quite much: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5542&idPhone2=5371
Snapdragon 800, Adreno 330, Krait 400 @ 2,3 Mhz. Antutu places it next to Note 3 so it whops quite much.
Hi everyone!
I just want to share with you guys that I rooted my SGS i9505 with CF root and knox flag was tripped to 0x1.
I flashed the custom rom and i got bootloops and i tired of fixing that issiu. I went to Samsung service center in Dubai and they reflashed the MJ5 stock firmware.
Later when I checked in Download mode Knox flag it was 0x0. I guess I am lucky because I have my warranty back. Sorry for my bad English.
Bishkek said:
Hi everyone!
I just want to share with you guys that I rooted my SGS i9505 with CF root and knox flag was tripped to 0x1.
I flashed the custom rom and i got bootloops and i tired of fixing that issiu. I went to Samsung service center in Dubai and they reflashed the MJ5 stock firmware.
Later when I checked in Download mode Knox flag it was 0x0. I guess I am lucky because I have my warranty back. Sorry for my bad English.
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That is interesting that they reflashed the stock firmware without negating your warrenty coverage for the tripped knox flag.
The question is were they supposed to do that or did they just screw up?
Thanks for sharing that!
Please follow the next thrilling episode in the Samsung-Zone... --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48077682&postcount=1350
And about the reflash. They have offered that to me too if I "happen" to trip the Knox. So e-fuse, no e-fuse. Duck. I don't know what to think anymore.
As someone who's mother accepted the update to MI1 a few days ago, would contacting Samsung be a way to possibly downgrade the baseband?
Where in Samsung would I contact for this?
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kalestew said:
As someone who's mother accepted the update to MI1 a few days ago, would contacting Samsung be a way to possibly downgrade the baseband?
Where in Samsung would I contact for this?
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Goodluck! US Samsung told me to kick rocks. (hence why I am posting from a HTC one now.)
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Bishkek said:
Hi everyone!
I just want to share with you guys that I rooted my SGS i9505 with CF root and knox flag was tripped to 0x1.
I flashed the custom rom and i got bootloops and i tired of fixing that issiu. I went to Samsung service center in Dubai and they reflashed the MJ5 stock firmware.
Later when I checked in Download mode Knox flag it was 0x0. I guess I am lucky because I have my warranty back. Sorry for my bad English.
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just a few quesitons to you sir.
did you wait for some minutes or did it take some hour?
was it repaired or motherboard simply replaced?
if they reflash the firmware it looks to me they have a "restoreable" that will be reversible if you flash it, just to ask why didn't you ask him what he did
First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for making this type of thread, but I have done some searching and reading and I am now thoroughly confused.
My phone is the BNG3 version so obviously not towelroot compatible. After figuring out that was the case and it ain't being updated I stumbled upon Odin Pro, but it needs root to use. Seems like a bit of a catch 22.
So how do I root my S5, what is this Knox and why shouldn't I trip it, and what the heck is happening?
Once again, sorry for making this kind of thread, but I am just so confused.
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First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for making this type of thread, but I have done some searching and reading and I am now thoroughly confused.
My phone is the BNG3 version so obviously not towelroot compatible. After figuring out that was the case and it ain't being updated I stumbled upon Odin Pro, but it needs root to use. Seems like a bit of a catch 22.
So how do I root my S5, what is this Knox and why shouldn't I trip it, and what the heck is happening?
Once again, sorry for making this kind of thread, but I am just so confused.
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I'll answer the second part since the other poster already answered the first part.
Tripping knox is just setting a flag in the bootloader to true. Basically it tells Samsung that you did something "unauthorized" with your phone and voided your warranty with them. The thing is, tmobile doesn't care. They will replace/upgrade your phone without even looking. This has been confirmed many times here and other places. (don't hold me accountable...yada yada...)
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But TMB, like most carriers doesn't care about Knox and it usually won't affect a warranty claim made with TMB.
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That's not always the case. Before rooting, I called T-Mobile a few times speaking to different representatives each time and asked them to explicitly describe their policy on rooting and Knox, and how it relates their JUMP! program (T-mobile's warranty/insurance and upgrade service) with regards to upgrading and general insurance repair/replacement.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID: If the Knox counter is tripped we will know/find out and you will no longer be eligible for upgrading nor replacement in accordance to the JUMP! program. In fact, a couple of them went into further detail that I could be liable for paying the full remaining price plus a fine if I were to attempt to upgrade/replace a Knox tripped phone.
THAT SAID, the employee that I bought the phone nonchalantly remarked when I asked him about rooting the phone with respect to the JUMP! program that T-Mobile would honor the JUMP! program despite root. HOWEVER he said nothing about a Knox tripped phone. Perhaps he equivocated meant that a towelrooted phone may be accepted but a full-fledged Knox tripped phone may not.
TL;DR:
T-Mobile representative/"official" web-sources say Knox tripped phones will not be eligible for the JUMP! program.
ONE employee at a T-Mobile store seemed to be willing to accept a rooted phone with regards to the JUMP! program.
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TMB is a large company. ...
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I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a troll/unwise, I am being completely serious. I am a cautious guy, and I wanted to know the full potential hazards of rooting with regards to their warranty policy. Of course on a person to person basis it should be easy to find a rep that will let a Knox tripped phone slide. However, in my personal opinion to pay the price of the warranty + full price of the phone + a fine in the unlikely worse case scenario that T-Mobile holds their policy to the letter seems expensive, especially when I know I will more than likely keep the phone for 2yrs+. My conclusion was to not buy their warranty, root, and be happy.
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Just do a deferred trade in then when you jump. You skip one person looking at your phone and the people in the warehouse honestly couldn't care less.
Wow, thanks for the massive amounts of information folks, truly.
A couple question though.
1. If I Install an older version and root using towelroot...
Would I be able to keep my device up to date with the performance updates Samsung releases?
2. These custom recoveries/kernels that would trip Knox? What do they mean and what advantages do they have?
3. If I do end up tripping Knox, can I un-trip it?
Nemaides said:
Wow, thanks for the massive amounts of information folks, truly.
A couple question though.
1. If I Install an older version and root using towelroot...
Would I be able to keep my device up to date with the performance updates Samsung releases?
2. These custom recoveries/kernels that would trip Knox? What do they mean and what advantages do they have?
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I'm not sure on the first one, so I'll let someone else answer.
The reason I chose to use the root method that tripped knox is I knew I was going to flash a custom rom later on. I would really recommend flashing the CM11 rom in the forum. If you wait a few days, most if not all the bugs will be ironed out and it'll be just as stable as stock.
As to what they mean, recoveries are what you use to flash and backup roms (they can be used for more, but this is what most people use) and kernels would just add MUCH more control over the inner workings of the phone (performance, screen calibration, button tweaks, etc).
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Last question,
If I root using an old kernel would it be possible to install updates without breaking root? Someway to keep the kernels just get the improvments?
Nemaides said:
Last question,
If I root using an old kernel would it be possible to install updates without breaking root? Someway to keep the kernels just get the improvments?
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here are two threads concerning how to update without losing root and or tripping knox. i suggest you read as much as you can b efore doing anything http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
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That's not always the case. Before rooting, I called T-Mobile a few times speaking to different representatives each time and asked them to explicitly describe their policy on rooting and Knox, and how it relates their JUMP! program (T-mobile's warranty/insurance and upgrade service) with regards to upgrading and general insurance repair/replacement.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID: If the Knox counter is tripped we will know/find out and you will no longer be eligible for upgrading nor replacement in accordance to the JUMP! program. In fact, a couple of them went into further detail that I could be liable for paying the full remaining price plus a fine if I were to attempt to upgrade/replace a Knox tripped phone.
THAT SAID, the employee that I bought the phone nonchalantly remarked when I asked him about rooting the phone with respect to the JUMP! program that T-Mobile would honor the JUMP! program despite root. HOWEVER he said nothing about a Knox tripped phone. Perhaps he equivocated meant that a towelrooted phone may be accepted but a full-fledged Knox tripped phone may not.
TL;DR:
T-Mobile representative/"official" web-sources say Knox tripped phones will not be eligible for the JUMP! program.
ONE employee at a T-Mobile store seemed to be willing to accept a rooted phone with regards to the JUMP! program.
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Yeah if you call them and ask they will tell you that ... Its completely the opposite of what happens when you bring a knox tripped phone in for an upgrade or whatever .. Think about it ... If you have jump then you have premium handset protection which means you can throw your phone at a wall and take it to tmobile and get a new one . They would way rather get a knox tripped phone that they can resell without having to pay for parts or anything like that ...I have been using tmobile for years and they never ever check for know . Knox voids the manufacturers warranty not the handset protection. The sales people really don't know jack about anything . There only fix for anything is to do a factory reset . At the end of the day Tmobile wants you to have a device so they can give you a bill monthly . Its bad business to take away equipment that makes you money . Im saying this from personal experience and basic common sense . Plus I have a friend that worked at tmobile for some time . When I bought my GS5 I rooted it while I was still in the store waiting for them to finish my transaction and even showed the sales guy how towelroot works . Jump is kinda a waste anyway cause you have to have half your device paid off to JUMP , when you can just sell your phone outright to pay the other half off .Especially if you buy flagship phones . I sold my GS4 for 320 which was more than what Jump would have covered
I like this!
fffft said:
Fair enough and I appreciate the elaboration. You described yourself as cautious which is fine. It's an individual choice whether to rely upon common practice or only trust what is official policy. You can decide what is best for yourself.
My perspective is that life is nothing if not learning to read between the lines. Have you ever read the back of a movie rental contract? Or car rental.. or rent almost anything contract? If you took the worst case, they have the right should you ever be late in returning the rented item to literally bust down your door, retrieve the rented item and not be held responsible for damage to your home. Not to mention collect hundreds of dollars in penalties for "being forced" to repatriate their overdue rental.
It would be naive to think that is common practice or likely to happen though. And that is the lesson of worst case scenarios. It's wise to know about them, but you also have to make a judgement as too how likely they are to occur. The alternative would be to refrain from doing many common place activities and live something like a hermit.
There is no reason that you or anyone else need agree though. That's just my take on it.
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:good: That right there was a lesson in life!
spirodave said:
Jump is kinda a waste anyway cause you have to have half your device paid off to JUMP , when you can just sell your phone outright to pay the other half off .Especially if you buy flagship phones . I sold my GS4 for 320 which was more than what Jump would have covered
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Not the old JUMP. That lets me upgrade twice per year without having to pay off 50%.
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ZTE Midnight (Z768G)
Was wondering if anyone has any updates on custom roms, unlocking possibilities, custom recovery etc. Just bought this phone for $5 at 7-11 and thought it may be a nice phone to play around with. So far it's rooted based on other forum posts but since then the project seems to be abandoned?
ffmast said:
Was wondering if anyone has any updates on custom roms, unlocking possibilities, custom recovery etc. Just bought this phone for $5 at 7-11 and thought it may be a nice phone to play around with. So far it's rooted based on other forum posts but since then the project seems to be abandoned?
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unfortunately, i bricked my phone in a rather silly way. (flashed a test recovery image and discovered that the device will get stuck in a bootloop if its recovery is damaged) if i could get one for $5 here i'd have already bought another! that's a hell of a deal. i was really looking forward to getting something running on this device, but with no viable full flash restore mechanism (that i'm aware of yet) it's a rocky battle.
i don't suppose you'd be willing to purchase another one of these and mail it to me? i can paypal you however much it'd be to buy one (or maybe even two o.o) and ship it, so long as the phone really is only $5. that's a really really appealing price to be able to have a second chance at bringing something interesting to a minimally-supported device!
ultravioletnanokitty said:
unfortunately, i bricked my phone in a rather silly way. (flashed a test recovery image and discovered that the device will get stuck in a bootloop if its recovery is damaged) if i could get one for $5 here i'd have already bought another! that's a hell of a deal. i was really looking forward to getting something running on this device, but with no viable full flash restore mechanism (that i'm aware of yet) it's a rocky battle.
i don't suppose you'd be willing to purchase another one of these and mail it to me? i can paypal you however much it'd be to buy one (or maybe even two o.o) and ship it, so long as the phone really is only $5. that's a really really appealing price to be able to have a second chance at bringing something interesting to a minimally-supported device!
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let me check all the stores in my area again...if not i could always send you this one since i originally bought it to play around with and get something working on it to make it decently usable... pretty much more than just talk, possibly even unlock for use on att towers since coverage here is nonexistent on net10. I have a galaxy s5 i just got today which will be my main phone but this one i was mainly just hoping to get running to introduce my mom to smartphones as an xmas gift. With no coverage here on it's current service the thing is kind of useless to me atm anyways. just message me where you want me to mail it and i'll let you know if i'm able to get anything sent out. I probably won't be able to send anything till after black friday since my work schedule interferes with getting to the post office anytime before that. I'd estimate the thing should cost no more than $5 to ship though. if you need the microsd it came with i will leave it in the phone too. its a 4gb card.
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let me check all the stores in my area again...if not i could always send you this one since i originally bought it to play around with and get something working on it to make it decently usable... pretty much more than just talk, possibly even unlock for use on att towers since coverage here is nonexistent on net10. I have a galaxy s5 i just got today which will be my main phone but this one i was mainly just hoping to get running to introduce my mom to smartphones as an xmas gift. With no coverage here on it's current service the thing is kind of useless to me atm anyways. just message me where you want me to mail it and i'll let you know if i'm able to get anything sent out. I probably won't be able to send anything till after black friday since my work schedule interferes with getting to the post office anytime before that. I'd estimate the thing should cost no more than $5 to ship though. if you need the microsd it came with i will leave it in the phone too. its a 4gb card.
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Did anything ever come of this? I have 6 of these that I would very much like custom ROMs for. If I didn't need all of them I would certainly send you one. I work for 7-11 so guess where I got them and for how much lol. I actually need 10 for a project I am working on, but haven't had any luck finding anymore in my area either. If i do i will be glad to send one. Looks like I quoted the wrong post but you get the point. :fingers-crossed:
Rooting ZTE 768G Tracfone
I've tried KingoRoot for days now. 4 days to be exact. I can't seem to find ANYTHING that will just simply root this phone. I downloaded and tried VRoot now at LEAST a dozen times in the 2 hours I've been working on it this morning.
Is there a way to root a phone using Android Studio?? I mean the program is there to build and work on Android...wouldn't it have some way to root a phone as well?
A friend gave me this little ZTE 768G Midnight...and it sucks. No memory worth speaking of but if I can get it rooted I can use Link2SD to expand that....