Hi there,
I'm very happy with my BMM however I noticed that I am part of a minority for some reason. Anyone knows why?
Further more, it seems that most tutorials to install nightly releases are mostly done for Safestrap. I really like my BMM and had a look at Safestrap but it does not seems very appealing to me. Should I consider to switch from BMM anyway?
Is Safestrap better than BMM? What good reasons would I have to switch, apart from the fact that its a software that has more spread.
Thanks in advance.
Vonz
vonz33 said:
Hi there,
I'm very happy with my BMM however I noticed that I am part of a minority for some reason. Anyone knows why?
Further more, it seems that most tutorials to install nightly releases are mostly done for Safestrap. I really like my BMM and had a look at Safestrap but it does not seems very appealing to me. Should I consider to switch from BMM anyway?
Is Safestrap better than BMM? What good reasons would I have to switch, apart from the fact that its a software that has more spread.
Thanks in advance.
Vonz
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Had been on BMM for a very long time while running stock ROM. When I finally decided I wanted KK and options opened up in the custom kernel area to keep hdmi, I finally flashed slimkat and JBX to slot2. After about three days, I switched recoveries to safestrap and didn't look back.
It isn't that I didn't like BMM or to say BMM is a bad recovery or didn't serve it's purpose. The main reasons were that:
1. I ran out of space fast with slot1&2 loaded up, and I couldn't find a way of repartitioning the sd card with BMM. So I would have to go to slot3 to not run into "running out of space" issues since that would not run off the system side of the sd card. Not a big deal except sometimes I need the space.
2. I didn't want two or more ROM's on my phone, I had already had a good setup with SlimKat and JBX so, I didn't use, or even want the stock ROM anymore, but can run into trouble trying to flash them into slot 1 of BMM, while you can flash to slot1 on safestrap with no problems at all.
3. You CAN repartition the sd card with Safestrap so if I did decide I wanted another ROM, I could repartition my sd card to better accomodate my ROM's and apps, and not have to worry about losing space again.
TL : DR I was going to have to make sacrifices or accomodation's to keep BMM around so it is safestrap for me Maybe I am lazy, maybe not, but either way it is right in front of my face with safestrap, with BMM I did some digging, didn't find, lost interest and flashed!
Well,I don't think that SS is better because SS takes free space from internal memory for second slot.
In BMM second slot is on webtop partition,so you have your full 8gb available.
Sent from my Razr XT910
welder73 said:
Well,I don't think that SS is better because SS takes free space from internal memory for second slot.
In BMM second slot is on webtop partition,so you have your full 8gb available.
Sent from my Razr XT910
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Ahh, I agree, and disagree. Yes BMM will put the second slot on top of the webtop partition, but that is only 1.3 gb if I am correct. One ROM and a few bulky apps/games, and slot2 is filled up. You once again get insufficient space toasts, even with another 2 gigs sitting on your card, because your system partition is filled up(slot 2 apps go into the slot2 partition which was webtop.) Sure you can swap back and forth between ROM's for various things but, some people don't want to have to swap between 2 ROM's for all their apps to accommodate a recoveries limitations that doesn't suit them.
And also remember some of that 8 gigs is cache, so we really never get to use it for our own purposes anyways, it is for the system.
Safestrap you can flash to the stock slot, and you can reconfigure the partitions to accomodate any other slots so that you don't get insufficient storage issues. Does it use internal memory, yes it does, but then again, that is the best source for unhindered space, and the phone does have ext. card capabilities so it isn't putting near the burden on us as, say, it would a nexus device.
Just my opinion, and I have nothing against BMM, it was a great recovery! It just doesn't suit my needs anymore.
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Ahh, I agree, and disagree. Yes BMM will put the second slot on top of the webtop partition, but that is only 1.3 gb if I am correct. One ROM and a few bulky apps/games, and slot2 is filled up. You once again get insufficient space toasts, even with another 2 gigs sitting on your card, because your system partition is filled up(slot 2 apps go into the slot2 partition which was webtop.) Sure you can swap back and forth between ROM's for various things but, some people don't want to have to swap between 2 ROM's for all their apps to accommodate a recoveries limitations that doesn't suit them.
And also remember some of that 8 gigs is cache, so we really never get to use it for our own purposes anyways, it is for the system.
Safestrap you can flash to the stock slot, and you can reconfigure the partitions to accomodate any other slots so that you don't get insufficient storage issues. Does it use internal memory, yes it does, but then again, that is the best source for unhindered space, and the phone does have ext. card capabilities so it isn't putting near the burden on us as, say, it would a nexus device.
Just my opinion, and I have nothing against BMM, it was a great recovery! It just doesn't suit my needs anymore.
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I agree,everyone has different needs,for me it's enough 1.3gb.
But what do you mean by "you can flash to the stock slot",you can do it with BMM also?
Sent from my Razr XT910
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But what do you mean by "you can flash to the stock slot"
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I guess I didn't complete the comment as I did in the previous post. The stock slot can be flashed in BMM but problems can arise. At least they did for me. It wasn't for a lack of trying but, when I was done and rebooted, I got logo, hijack, and then blank, twice! First time restored stock slot and redownloaded ROM, second time ended up being a firmware reflash.
I am not above saying I did something wrong, I probably did, but heck if I know what it was, I had no problem flashing slot2, and have had zero issues with safestrap. Same download of ROM and Gapps that were used in second flash was used in slot2 BMM and Safestrap. So I am not going to say BMM CAN'T do it, I am just not going to say it can when I couldn't do it successfully.
So I retained from previous comments that SS could help with saving memory? Correct? If so that is definitely interesting. Further more BMM is discontinued development am I right?
I will give SS a go and see what happens (even though the interface is not as schmick as BMM, oh well..!) .
So in order to switch from BMM to SS I shall save my stock ROM that is on slot 1 and my CM10 that is on slot 2, then uninstall BMM from settings/apps menu, then install SS, reboot in SSR and install CM11 from zip file correct?
Cheers.
ttt
vonz33 said:
So I retained from previous comments that SS could help with saving memory? Correct? If so that is definitely interesting. Further more BMM is discontinued development am I right?
I will give SS a go and see what happens (even though the interface is not as schmick as BMM, oh well..!) .
So in order to switch from BMM to SS I shall save my stock ROM that is on slot 1 and my CM10 that is on slot 2, then uninstall BMM from settings/apps menu, then install SS, reboot in SSR and install CM11 from zip file correct?
Cheers.
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Yes BMM does seem to have discontinued development. Doesn't mean Boot menu manager right now isn't good, just means there probably won't be any more improvement.
As for saving space, no, safestrap doesn't do that. When you install a second slot in BMM it will install it on top of the webtop partition(read and watch your tutorial's on how to do this correctly.) So it isn't taking any extra space yet, the downside to that is that it is limited to 1.3gb. If you don't use alot of apps, or going to be using it strictly for testing ROM's, then it isn't a big deal. Any more slots after that eats into your internal storage.
Safestrap from what I understand, won't install a slot on top of webtop, instead, when you install to slot 1 it will be taking space from your internal storage right off the bat. You can choose from 1gb, 2gb, or 3gb, size for your new slot partition. Same for any more slots you make. The more space you take for one slot partition, the less you leave for any others you would make. From what I understand though, with safestrap, you CAN still remove webtop for stock slot (I haven't needed to yet) so the 1.3 gb is freed up for more storage to stock.
As welder and I had discussed prior, it completely depends on your needs. If you don't have alot of apps, and want to dual boot a stock ROM and a custom one... BMM will do you fine. If you have a lot of apps or games and want to dual boot both ROMS with both of them loaded up, then safestrap is the way to go. Some ROM's play well with one recovery but not the other, there are also work arounds in some cases.
Any of your backups from one will not work with the other
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Yes BMM does seem to have discontinued development. Doesn't mean Boot menu manager right now isn't good, just means there probably won't be any more improvement.
As for saving space, no, safestrap doesn't do that. When you install a second slot in BMM it will install it on top of the webtop partition(read and watch your tutorial's on how to do this correctly.) So it isn't taking any extra space yet, the downside to that is that it is limited to 1.3gb. If you don't use alot of apps, or going to be using it strictly for testing ROM's, then it isn't a big deal. Any more slots after that eats into your internal storage.
Safestrap from what I understand, won't install a slot on top of webtop, instead, when you install to slot 1 it will be taking space from your internal storage right off the bat. You can choose from 1gb, 2gb, or 3gb, size for your new slot partition. Same for any more slots you make. The more space you take for one slot partition, the less you leave for any others you would make. From what I understand though, with safestrap, you CAN still remove webtop for stock slot (I haven't needed to yet) so the 1.3 gb is freed up for more storage to stock.
As welder and I had discussed prior, it completely depends on your needs. If you don't have alot of apps, and want to dual boot a stock ROM and a custom one... BMM will do you fine. If you have a lot of apps or games and want to dual boot both ROMS with both of them loaded up, then safestrap is the way to go. Some ROM's play well with one recovery but not the other, there are also work arounds in some cases.
Any of your backups from one will not work with the other
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Thanks for your reply, Draxin.
Which one are you using? I take it you are using BMM. You are talking about a tutorial.... this is A thing I could not find. Let me know if there is one, and if so where I can get it from.
My main concern is that I wanted to give a shot to CM11 and it seems that the install is not 100% reliable, even with the BMM workaround. So maybe I shall wait for a release candidate to occur.
I have 80 user apps apparently under CM10 according to Titanium Backup, is that a lot?
Also you talk about this webtop thing... After some research it appears that a webtop is a desktop integrated in a web browser. What does it have to do with android platform more exactly?
I mostly have 2 used slots, Official Moto ROM on slot 1 (just in case but never use it) and CM10 on slot 2 as it was advised on a youtube video. If I have to test a kexec ROM I usually backup my CM10 and try it out on slot 2, to avoid munching all the space on side storage.
So what do you recommend for us at this stage?
Thanks in advance.
Vz
vonz33 said:
Thanks for your reply, Draxin.
Which one are you using? I take it you are using BMM. You are talking about a tutorial.... this is A thing I could not find. Let me know if there is one, and if so where I can get it from.
My main concern is that I wanted to give a shot to CM11 and it seems that the install is not 100% reliable, even with the BMM workaround. So maybe I shall wait for a release candidate to occur.
I have 80 user apps apparently under CM10 according to Titanium Backup, is that a lot?
Also you talk about this webtop thing... After some research it appears that a webtop is a desktop integrated in a web browser. What does it have to do with android platform more exactly?
I mostly have 2 used slots, Official Moto ROM on slot 1 (just in case but never use it) and CM10 on slot 2 as it was advised on a youtube video. If I have to test a kexec ROM I usually backup my CM10 and try it out on slot 2, to avoid munching all the space on side storage.
So what do you recommend for us at this stage?
Thanks in advance.
Vz
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I am using safestrap now, I had been using BMM for a while til I started flashing custom ROM's. After that safestrap suited MY needs better
BMM tutorials: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325764
CM11 requires safestrap 3.65 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900
If you really want to try out CM11, and then it doesn't live up to your expectations, you can always go back to BMM and restore the backups you saved to where you are right now. SlimKat I know for a fact will install with BMM. You just have to make sure to completely uninstall whatever recovery you had previously, before adding a new one
It doesn't matter so much how many apps you have, as, how much space they take up. If you are just taking a ROM for a test run, you don't need all your apps, especially if you are dual booting, if you are going to use slot 2 as a daily driver, and they are bulky apps, that is when you get concerned.
Webtop, basically allows you to explore your phone as if it were a desktop computer, bluetooth keyboard, and the phone's touchscreen will act as a laptop touch pad, or you can run a bluetooth mouse, and using a typical tv with hdmi in as a moniter. Motorola thought it would be a bigger hit than it turned out to be. It really is a neat idea, turning your phone into a handheld desktop but, it has plenty of limitations. For most people, if they even know what it is, it's just taking up space.
What do I recommend? Well, it completely depends on what you are looking to do. Like I said before bro, you can save what you have with BMM, uninstall it and try out safestrap. If you don't like it, uninstall safestrap and go back to BMM and reinstall your backups, no harm, no foul. If you really like safestrap, then dump your BMM backups as they are just taking up space at that point. With titanium backup, as long as you saved your apps and modified data, call logs, wifi, and sms, really all you cost yourself in the switch, is time setting everything back up.
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Cool bro.
Will try ST to see what happens. Thanks again you're a true gentleman.
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I'm reading about safestrap ROMs, and some people say that the roms run a little slower when using safestrap. (Not just the boot process, which seems a bit slower.) What is actually causing this slowdown?
I've googled around but can't find any answers other than people just saying "things run a tad slower"
i believe the 2nd rom is put on the sd card...
The stuff I had read seemed to say you had to repartition the internal flash, which renders the Webtop inoperable?
I have used the webtop on Safe Rom and "non" safe Rom. Also haven't noticed a huge difference in Rom speed.
AFAIK you're creating a new partition on your drive so now you're running essentially a dual boot system. This means some resources are tied to the non safe system and some to the safe system. Therefore you don't have 100% of your resources tied to just one ROM.
W/ that said I'm running Absym1.1 on the .748 kernel and using Safestrap 1.08 and it's blazing fast with ADW EX on it. And silky smooth, mind you.
Its placebo. Safe strap makes a nandroid of your system and a nandroid of your safe system, and just switches between them...right?
This thread is old but the answer can be found herehttp://wp.chmurka.net/?p=479
As to what you can do is install SafeStrap modified by mentor37 which makes use of the WebTop partition and doesn't slow down over time.
http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/en/xt894-and-xt912-safestrap-375-unused-partitions-preinstall-webtop
With Safestrap I know it uses a different folder to install the 2nd OS. Is there any issues with space on the phone doing this? Should we factory reset the good OS before installing the 2nd one? And this also utilizes both cores on the processor correct? Seems like I remember reading somewhere we were only able to use one core because of the locked bootloader. If I do safestrap, is backing up the folder that gets modified enough or do I need to be prepared to RSD if there is a problem since I'm on .211?
Are there any guides that explain Safestrap vs Bootstrap? I've found a couple of smaller posts about this, but nothing going real in depth.
Thanks!
Yes, sometimes there are some issues with space when doing this. No, do not factory reset the first system before installing the second one. The phone would still use both processors, that's only with Kexec only one core is in use. This is a pretty good thread on bootstrap versus safestrap http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/2678-bootstrap-vs-safestrap/
Could you please clarify on "If I do safestrap, is backing up the folder that gets modified enough or do I need to be prepared to RSD if there is a problem since I'm on .211?" generally when you use safestrap, you don't need to use RSD all that much , you have nandroids and 2 systems that it's possible to boot into.
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Yes, sometimes there are some issues with space when doing this. No, do not factory reset the first system before installing the second one. The phone would still use both processors, that's only with Kexec only one core is in use. This is a pretty good thread on bootstrap versus safestrap http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/2678-bootstrap-vs-safestrap/
Could you please clarify on "If I do safestrap, is backing up the folder that gets modified enough or do I need to be prepared to RSD if there is a problem since I'm on .211?" generally when you use safestrap, you don't need to use RSD all that much , you have nandroids and 2 systems that it's possible to boot into.
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I guess my concern with backing things up was returning to stock if I ever needed to. I don't think I really need to worry about an update or coming out as .211 isn't even officially available to everyone. If an update does come out with updated radios would it even install with the modifications safestrap will make?
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I guess my concern with backing things up was returning to stock if I ever needed to. I don't think I really need to worry about an update or coming out as .211 isn't even officially available to everyone. If an update does come out with updated radios would it even install with the modifications safestrap will make?
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Mostly, on safestrap there is no problem going back to stock, as with 2 button presses we can go back to the unsafe system(stock).
No it would not install, but you can bypass this. Since Safestrap uses /preinstall to store backups and the safe/unsafe system, it's modified while safestrap is in use and all you have to do before you install safestrap is copy and paste the /preinstall folder onto your sdcard. Then when there is an OTA, uninstall safestrap and put your original /preinstall back in.
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Mostly, on safestrap there is no problem going back to stock, as with 2 button presses we can go back to the unsafe system(stock).
No it would not install, but you can bypass this. Since Safestrap uses /preinstall to store backups and the safe/unsafe system, it's modified while safestrap is in use and all you have to do before you install safestrap is copy and paste the /preinstall folder onto your sdcard. Then when there is an OTA, uninstall safestrap and put your original /preinstall back in.
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Thanks! Thats kind of what I needed. I figured once I start this going back to stock really won't be an option for me as the benefit of running a custom rom is more appealing. I just wanted to make sure I restore the phone back if I ever need to send it in or decide to trade/replace for a Razr Maxx someday.
Hi there,
Joined these forums to see if any fellow Safestrap users could help... I installed a custom rom (HyperDrive) onto the stock rom boot option in Safestrap, despite the big red text saying NOT TO INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM ON STOCK ROM.
My problem is: I have 3 different partitions on my phone, each with a different version of hyperdrive. The phone's original capacity is 16gb, but now it has the three different partitions within that 16 gb. I want to unroot and get rid of all these partitions. Anyone know how to help?
How did you create the partitions in the first place? Safestrap makes no sense to me.
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How did you create the partitions in the first place? Safestrap makes no sense to me.
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When you recover into SafeStrap, there are 8 menus. One of the menus is boot options. You click on boot options and you're given 4 partition portions (depending on the internal storage size of your device). 3 of the choices are custom rom slots, one of the choices is stock rom. If you wipe your stock rom, you're out of luck. You can have a whole bunch of other roms preloaded, but if you remove your stock rom and have no backups, you're finished...
So, the question is, how can I get all 16 gb back and restore my phone completely?
Thanks dude
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brykayne said:
When you recover into SafeStrap, there are 8 menus. One of the menus is boot options. You click on boot options and you're given 4 partition portions (depending on the internal storage size of your device). 3 of the choices are custom rom slots, one of the choices is stock rom. If you wipe your stock rom, you're out of luck. You can have a whole bunch of other roms preloaded, but if you remove your stock rom and have no backups, you're finished...
So, the question is, how can I get all 16 gb back and restore my phone completely?
Thanks dude
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I believe it operates the same way on the S4 as it did on my Razr. There should be a directory on your internal storage (sdcard0) named SafeStrap; that is where your images are stored for any custom ROM -- each one should be in a directory of it's own (Slot1, Slot2, etc), with each of those directories containing it's own system.img, cache.img and userdata.img files.
I don't believe that Safestrap will let you wipe the stock ROM slot -- hashcode has built a lot of safety features into it!
In order to uninstall Safestrap, even though you uninstall it in your Applications, you may have to use adb. If you aren't interesting in keeping the custom ROMS you have in those slots, you can simply uninstall Safestrap and then delete that Safestrap directory on your internal storage. After that, if you reboot and it still goes into Safestrap recovery before booting the stock image, you'll have to uninstall Safestrap with adb. If you need to use adb to get rid of it, go to HashCode's page -- blog.hash-of-codes.com/2012/12/27/how-to-manually-remove-safestrap-via-adb/ -- where he has full instructions -- it is only about 8 command lines and only takes a couple of minutes.
Sorry I had to post the link like that, but this STUPID board thinks I'm too "new" to post a frigging link to one of it's own developers!
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I believe it operates the same way on the S4 as it did on my Razr. There should be a directory on your internal storage (sdcard0) named SafeStrap; that is where your images are stored for any custom ROM -- each one should be in a directory of it's own (Slot1, Slot2, etc), with each of those directories containing it's own system.img, cache.img and userdata.img files.
I don't believe that Safestrap will let you wipe the stock ROM slot -- hashcode has built a lot of safety features into it!
In order to uninstall Safestrap, even though you uninstall it in your Applications, you may have to use adb. If you aren't interesting in keeping the custom ROMS you have in those slots, you can simply uninstall Safestrap and then delete that Safestrap directory on your internal storage. After that, if you reboot and it still goes into Safestrap recovery before booting the stock image, you'll have to uninstall Safestrap with adb. If you need to use adb to get rid of it, go to HashCode's page -- blog.hash-of-codes.com/2012/12/27/how-to-manually-remove-safestrap-via-adb/ -- where he has full instructions -- it is only about 8 command lines and only takes a couple of minutes.
Sorry I had to post the link like that, but this STUPID board thinks I'm too "new" to post a frigging link to one of it's own developers!
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Thanks for your help! I'm going to try it out now. I'll let you know my results.
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Thanks for your help! I'm going to try it out now. I'll let you know my results.
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Just getting to this now... school's been busy.
Will post results by the end of the weekend!
You can wipe the primary slot.
I'm running GPE on that slot now.
You can make a backup of your Safestrap compatible rom and I suggest one of your primary slot, and restore the backup to the primary, then delete all the slots.
Test your backups! And remember if you wipe your primary slot Safestrap is gone! You must reinstall it to get the recovery menu again.
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I tried using ADB to remove Safestrap and it didn't work.
I downloaded root browser and noticed that, for some reason, I have 5 gb of storage taken up by something unknown.
My next question is: Where are the files on my internal storage for Safestrap? Can I delete those?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been trying to figure this out for weeks... I just want my normal phone back!
I have a 16 gig 8.9" KF that I bought a week or so ago.
I immediately installed safestrap and after rooting the stock ROM and creating a new ROM slot, I restored the backup to ROM slot 1. I then did a bunch of mods including all the GAPPS/HDXPosed module etc. to the ROM slot 1 ROM and everything works perfectly.
I have both the Google Playstore and the Amazon Playstore running side by side and both work perfectly. GMAIL works perfectly and so does Chrome browser. Google voice search works and so does Google maps.
Nova Prime Launcher & live widgets work perfectly, but I hardly ever use that setup as the main reason I bought it was to use as a Kindle reader(to replace a Kindle Paperwhite that I don't really like).
Now that I have it all setup the way I want it, I don't plan on making any more changes at all. At this point, I have been considering doing the same thing I did with my Galaxy Note 3 running safestrap and a Beans ROM.
With the Note, after I had the ROM in the slot running perfectly, I backed it up (and saved a copy of the BU to my Surface tablet) and then went in and deleted the ROM slot and restored the BU to the stock slot so I regained all the space taken by the ROM slot.and have run that way ever since.
Now, I am considering doing the same thing with the KF. Does anybody see any reason why this wouldn't work fine with the Fire the same way it has in my phone??
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...I backed it up (and saved a copy of the BU to my Surface tablet) and then went in and deleted the ROM slot and restored the BU to the stock slot so I regained all the space taken by the ROM slot.and have run that way ever since.
Now, I am considering doing the same thing with the KF. Does anybody see any reason why this wouldn't work fine with the Fire the same way it has in my phone??
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I would like to know the answer to that question as well.
Just to clarify, you are talking about writing over your stock rom with the modified one containing Gapps and Amazon?
I've never had to restore from safestrap, if something happens and you cannot boot to your new stock rom will it let you enter recovery and load a rom from a source not already on the kindle? So, load your backup file from your pc on to your device?
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Just to clarify, you are talking about writing over your stock rom with the modified one containing Gapps and Amazon?
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Exactly.
Did that with my safestrapped Note 3 and never had a single problem.
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Exactly.
Did that with my safestrapped Note 3 and never had a single problem.
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Tried it earlier and it sent me in to a boot loop. If/when I get back up and running again I'll probably just do the modifications on my stock to begin with and see how that works out.
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jmorton10 said:
I have a 16 gig 8.9" KF that I bought a week or so ago.
I immediately installed safestrap and after rooting the stock ROM and creating a new ROM slot, I restored the backup to ROM slot 1. I then did a bunch of mods including all the GAPPS/HDXPosed module etc. to the ROM slot 1 ROM and everything works perfectly.
Now that I have it all setup the way I want it, I don't plan on making any more changes at all. At this point, I have been considering doing the same thing I did with my Galaxy Note 3 running safestrap and a Beans ROM.
With the Note, after I had the ROM in the slot running perfectly, I backed it up (and saved a copy of the BU to my Surface tablet) and then went in and deleted the ROM slot and restored the BU to the stock slot so I regained all the space taken by the ROM slot.and have run that way ever since.
Now, I am considering doing the same thing with the KF. Does anybody see any reason why this wouldn't work fine with the Fire the same way it has in my phone??
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I tried what you are talking about. First, I had difficulty getting safestrap to do the backup. it was as if there was not enough space to write the backup. I had to cannibalize the install by deleting apps until I could get the backup to complete. Second, when I tried to install the backup in my stock ROM partition, the install failed. Third, and most importantly, I then mistakenly touched the reboot button....then I had a non-recoverable brick type device.
If I decide to try again I will use safestrap to backup my stock system and install everything from scratch on my stock ROM partition not a ROM slot. Right now I am operating on a new device in a ROM slot because I haven't had the courage to build from scratch on my stock ROM.
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I then mistakenly touched the reboot button....then I had a non-recoverable brick type device.
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So there is no hope if I did exactly that?
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So there is no hope if I did exactly that?
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Too many of the system files and directories were missing to gain root again. I had access with adb but couldn't install the system files and safestrap was gone. I could push a few files, but without root access nothing would push into the system directories. adb "shell" didn't work because of missing libraries.
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Hi all,
I'm not new to Android and flashing ROM's but I've always had Galaxy phones. I just updated my SGS3 to SlimKat last week and love it. My friend has a RAZR MAXX that is giving him problems and I told him we could probably flash a new ROM to it and improve its performance. I've read through a few threads and watched the video's on the top of the general page and see that SafeStrap seems to be the way to put new ROMS on the RAZR. My questions are:
1. Can you use TWRP or another recovery to install ROMS or is SafeStrap the only way?
2. Do you have to keep the stock ROM if you use SafeStrap?
3. Is there a way to reflash the factory ROM if you do replace it using either TWRP or SafeStrap?
Thanks for any help.
Dave
Safestrap is the best recommended way. There is a BBM option but it is incompatible with newer builds and has failed to be updated. I personally use and highly recommend SS
2. You do not. Newest SS 3.65 allows for stock flashing where you cab overwrite stock instead of using the virtual slots.
3. Indeed there is. Matt's Utility is the best way. Completely simplified and includes root and other option. Goes through ap fastboot and works well I have used it to recovery or flash stock many times.
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JakeDHS07 said:
Safestrap is the best recommended way. There is a BBM option but it is incompatible with newer builds and has failed to be updated. I personally use and highly recommend SS
2. You do not. Newest SS 3.65 allows for stock flashing where you cab overwrite stock instead of using the virtual slots.
3. Indeed there is. Matt's Utility is the best way. Completely simplified and includes root and other option. Goes through ap fastboot and works well I have used it to recovery or flash stock many times.
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Awesome information and thank you for the response. I appreciate it!
Dave
Not a problem. Its what I do here
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JakeDHS07 said:
Not a problem. Its what I do here
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Ok, so I got Root on the RAZR and installed Sidestrap no issues, I also got SlimKat installed in ROM slot 1. That worked fine but none of the apps carried over obviously. So I did a Titanium backup of the apps my friend wanted from the stock rom and tried to install SlimKat in the stock Rom. It worked but it didn't wipe the internal SD card and do a clean flash like I expected it to do. Also once the phone came back I could not see the internal or external SD card on my pc to move all of the backups back over to it. What am I doing wrong here?
1. how can I get the internal memory to show back up when connected to my PC? It worked fine before.
2. how can I do a complete fresh install where it wipes the internal memory card totally?
Thanks for any help, I'm totally lost on this device.
Thanks,
Dave
What I would do. Move ROM zip to SD card as well as any other zips you plan to install. Wipe all on stock slot except SD card and then reinstall this should reset all the data and make the internal visible again as it was hidden through some error and wipe it in the process. Be sure you have a working ROM on the SD card to flash before doing the wipe as you need something to boot to afterward otherwise you will have no OS. Best of luck
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