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With Safestrap I know it uses a different folder to install the 2nd OS. Is there any issues with space on the phone doing this? Should we factory reset the good OS before installing the 2nd one? And this also utilizes both cores on the processor correct? Seems like I remember reading somewhere we were only able to use one core because of the locked bootloader. If I do safestrap, is backing up the folder that gets modified enough or do I need to be prepared to RSD if there is a problem since I'm on .211?
Are there any guides that explain Safestrap vs Bootstrap? I've found a couple of smaller posts about this, but nothing going real in depth.
Thanks!
Yes, sometimes there are some issues with space when doing this. No, do not factory reset the first system before installing the second one. The phone would still use both processors, that's only with Kexec only one core is in use. This is a pretty good thread on bootstrap versus safestrap http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/2678-bootstrap-vs-safestrap/
Could you please clarify on "If I do safestrap, is backing up the folder that gets modified enough or do I need to be prepared to RSD if there is a problem since I'm on .211?" generally when you use safestrap, you don't need to use RSD all that much , you have nandroids and 2 systems that it's possible to boot into.
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Yes, sometimes there are some issues with space when doing this. No, do not factory reset the first system before installing the second one. The phone would still use both processors, that's only with Kexec only one core is in use. This is a pretty good thread on bootstrap versus safestrap http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/2678-bootstrap-vs-safestrap/
Could you please clarify on "If I do safestrap, is backing up the folder that gets modified enough or do I need to be prepared to RSD if there is a problem since I'm on .211?" generally when you use safestrap, you don't need to use RSD all that much , you have nandroids and 2 systems that it's possible to boot into.
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I guess my concern with backing things up was returning to stock if I ever needed to. I don't think I really need to worry about an update or coming out as .211 isn't even officially available to everyone. If an update does come out with updated radios would it even install with the modifications safestrap will make?
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I guess my concern with backing things up was returning to stock if I ever needed to. I don't think I really need to worry about an update or coming out as .211 isn't even officially available to everyone. If an update does come out with updated radios would it even install with the modifications safestrap will make?
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Mostly, on safestrap there is no problem going back to stock, as with 2 button presses we can go back to the unsafe system(stock).
No it would not install, but you can bypass this. Since Safestrap uses /preinstall to store backups and the safe/unsafe system, it's modified while safestrap is in use and all you have to do before you install safestrap is copy and paste the /preinstall folder onto your sdcard. Then when there is an OTA, uninstall safestrap and put your original /preinstall back in.
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Mostly, on safestrap there is no problem going back to stock, as with 2 button presses we can go back to the unsafe system(stock).
No it would not install, but you can bypass this. Since Safestrap uses /preinstall to store backups and the safe/unsafe system, it's modified while safestrap is in use and all you have to do before you install safestrap is copy and paste the /preinstall folder onto your sdcard. Then when there is an OTA, uninstall safestrap and put your original /preinstall back in.
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Thanks! Thats kind of what I needed. I figured once I start this going back to stock really won't be an option for me as the benefit of running a custom rom is more appealing. I just wanted to make sure I restore the phone back if I ever need to send it in or decide to trade/replace for a Razr Maxx someday.
Okay, complete re-write...
For MY guide (The point is, this is not all inclusive, nor does it dictate that its the only way... but if you want help on this thread....)
USE safestrap 3.65 (no exceptions)
USE kitkat 4.4 (no exceptions)
YOU MUST WIPE EVERYTHING - Use the Advanced button, in the wipe menu... Thats what its for... Advanced stuff... Like flashing over STOCK... (Its best to copy all your NEEDED data (Don't just copy everything), PLEASE DO NOT COPY /DATA /ANDROID/ /.SECURE ECT ONLY what YOU recognize
Please make sure ALL APPS work before using apps2sd /mounts2sd. (This means literally testing each app, one by one. In your app drawer. You'd be surprised how much doesn't work when not wiped/flashed properly (And sometimes even when done right)
Boot into recovery
Select "Boot options"
Select "Stock ROM"
Select "Wipe"
Select "Advanced Wipe"
Check mark every single box you see! (I mean it) (I hope you already went through your internal and external sd card and copied your pictures, music, videos, emails, texts, downloads, ect somewhere safe. NOT ON THE PHONE...
"Swipe to Wipe"
Select "Install"
Find and Select your flashable rom .zip
Select Add More Zips
Find and Select your flashable gapps .zip
"Swipe to Confirm Flash"
"Wipe Dalvik Cache"
"Reboot"
I would just like to confirm that flashing "Aviator CM11" on the stock partition does work and boots without problems.
Boot times are incredible compared to using slot 1-4
Enjoy not wasting 6gb of space!
Errors:
Could not install to usb or sdcard -playstore error : Either bug in rom, or you have installed that app, once upon a time on some other rom/same rom. Go to root explorer, and use the search function to find the left over files. (Try searching only one part of the word of the app) Or look in /data/data
Ya, noticed this in a few 4.4 RoMs. Like Avatar etc. I am using latest cm nightly with "ZERO" issues!!! Pretty good feeling. Apparently, imo, some RoMs have not been updated fully. This was an issue for many when using AOKP 4.3. Suggestions are in that thread, old suggestions at this point. But may be helpful!!
XT912 RaZR SpYdEr CDMA
hit ThAnKs if I was helpful!!!
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Please note : USE LATEST SAFESTRAP. I believe it was version 6.10 that started allowing proper stock slot flashing for custom roms, but the developer noted that only new versions would work, for example, anything below cm10.1 would NOT WORK. I used Aviator CM11 (4.4 kitkat)
So... I originally maxed out my space when creating a slot for my rom to fit in, which left me about 500mb for my internal sdcard. Using mounts2sd or other internal/external sd swaps gave me trouble one way or another (Camera refused to record to sd, so I would get interrupted during hd recording ect.). So I dived in and just erased all my slots, and installed my rom on the stock slot.
I would just like to confirm that flashing "Aviator CM11" on the stock partition does work and boots without problems.
Boot times are incredible compared to using slot 1-4
I did not wipe system. Only did a davilik/cache/data wipe. Installed Aviator CM11 on top. Rebooted. confirmed it works. Then installed JBX kernel. Which also worked just fine.
Now I have 6gb free on my internal sdcard!!
(The only problem I have is Aviator CM11 related, cannot install certain apps from the app store. "Could not install to sdcard or usb storage" )
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Cool! I am running KitKat of Gnex as primary and it rocks. But, on primary phone, xt912, using Cm1 Kitkat on Slot 1 (Aviator) with old Jelly bean stock. UGH! So, u r saying u installed kitkat to stock and is all still good??? Why did you not wipe system since u threw out stock?
Also, not very sharp with JBX. Is itdiffcult to install? can u point me in the right direction.
Boot up on kitkat slot1 is sooooooooooooooooooo slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. would like to try it as primary. Any help is appreciated.
Gsm razr xt910?
Hey, will this methos work for GSM RAZR XT910?
For all: Flashing a Kexec Rom to stock system works fine whether with latest SS or with BMM! The stock system is working faster than any virtual slots, there's no "disk emulation". I am not sure about one thing: In theory the stock system could use less power than virtual slots - thos of you who ever installed Linux Mint near their Windows installation (Installation from Windows), where a virtual hdd disk image partition is being created. When installation Linux Mint this way the suspend mode is not available as usual. Maybe it works the same way on our phones?
I have been using Mokee on my stock slot for weeks now. Very stable, everything works (except HDMI because of source), and battery is pretty decent. I'm using SS 3.65, flashing to stock is painless, and I believe all Roms posted here are kexec based. I have used gummy, cm, mokee and slim on stock slot. But where can the "Aviator" Roms be found?
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I have been using Mokee on my stock slot for weeks now. Very stable, everything works (except HDMI because of source), and battery is pretty decent. I'm using SS 3.65, flashing to stock is painless, and I believe all Roms posted here are kexec based. I have used gummy, cm, mokee and slim on stock slot. But where can the "Aviator" Roms be found?
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There is another forum located here: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/forum/156-vzw-droid-razr-roms-xt912/
There are some of the older Blur based ROMs, and the newer Aviator ROMs as well. Aviator has a Gummy, and a CM11 version. They tweak those ROMs with a few things and work well.
I have also installed KitKat Roms on the stock partion, which I started doing to free up room on phone. I also ran into the same issue trying to install one app ("can not install on USB or SD Card") and gplay subsequently gave a refund after going through their support system.
I tried JB Rom on stock partion but the install failed. BUT - I installed it on rom slot 1 and created a backup and the "recovered" that backup on the stock slot and it worked.
The aviator roms on http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/forum/156-vzw-droid-razr-roms-xt912/ are pretty good. Running the aviator gummy (my current favorite) right now - early Jan version as the camera did not work on later Jan version - might be fixed now - haven't checked in a week.
What is the CORRECT WAY to install any custom ROM on the STOCK SLOT?
For example:
I was using SS 6.15
SLOT: STOCK ---- ROGERS CANADA JB STOCK ROM 4.12
SLOT: 1 ---- SLIMKAT 2.4
RIGHT Now I´ve installed:
SLOT: STOCK ---- SLIMKAT 2.5 RC1 (over the ROGERS CANADA JB STOCK ROM 4.12 )
SLOT: 1 ---- SLIMKAT 2.4
SLOT: STock is not working properly. Camera, browser, quick settings are not working.
SHOULD I enter SS 6.15, WIPE EVERYTHING on SLOT STOCK (DATA, SYSTEM,CACHE,DALVIK,etc) and re - FLASH SlimKAT 2.5 RC1 on SLOT STOCK??
Question here:
I am wanting to flash a custom 4.1.2 Rom on my stockside. Is this possible with SS?
Is it only possible with KK ROms?
Right now I have a modified latest .165 OTA running and nothing on my slots for SS.
Michelangelos said:
What is the CORRECT WAY to install any custom ROM on the STOCK SLOT?
For example:
I was using SS 6.15
SLOT: STOCK ---- ROGERS CANADA JB STOCK ROM 4.12
SLOT: 1 ---- SLIMKAT 2.4
RIGHT Now I´ve installed:
SLOT: STOCK ---- SLIMKAT 2.5 RC1 (over the ROGERS CANADA JB STOCK ROM 4.12 )
SLOT: 1 ---- SLIMKAT 2.4
SLOT: STock is not working properly. Camera, browser, quick settings are not working.
SHOULD I enter SS 6.15, WIPE EVERYTHING on SLOT STOCK (DATA, SYSTEM,CACHE,DALVIK,etc) and re - FLASH SlimKAT 2.5 RC1 on SLOT STOCK??
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I want to know That too!!
andrewrvincent said:
I have also installed KitKat Roms on the stock partion, which I started doing to free up room on phone. I also ran into the same issue trying to install one app ("can not install on USB or SD Card") and gplay subsequently gave a refund after going through their support system.
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Using file manager, go to internal storage, go into data/data and delete the offending apps. This is caused by left over files from a previous installation of that app. The hard way, but for sure way, is to wipe EVERYTHING. (internal storage)
The proper way, at least for me, to install on stock slot, is to:
Pull out my external SD card. Goto wipe, click advanced wipe, check everything. Wipe.
Then flash your custom rom, and don't forget your gapps if you use them. Reboot.
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Question here:
I am wanting to flash a custom 4.1.2 Rom on my stockside. Is this possible with SS?
Is it only possible with KK ROms?
Right now I have a modified latest .165 OTA running and nothing on my slots for SS.
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Yes, for the least amount of possible issues, use SS 1.65, and use a jb+ kexec rom. (4.1.2 should be fine)
andrewrvincent said:
I have also installed KitKat Roms on the stock partion, which I started doing to free up room on phone. I also ran into the same issue trying to install one app ("can not install on USB or SD Card") and gplay subsequently gave a refund after going through their support system.
I tried JB Rom on stock partion but the install failed. BUT - I installed it on rom slot 1 and created a backup and the "recovered" that backup on the stock slot and it worked.
The aviator roms on http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/forum/156-vzw-droid-razr-roms-xt912/ are pretty good. Running the aviator gummy (my current favorite) right now - early Jan version as the camera did not work on later Jan version - might be fixed now - haven't checked in a week.
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I would say definitely try wiping everything to resolve the issues. That's always good for all ROM's if you're going from one ROM to a completely different one. About the only time I will dirty flash is if I'm just updating the current system I'm running. Even then I've had minor problems.
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I would say definitely try wiping everything to resolve the issues. That's always good for all ROM's if you're going from one ROM to a completely different one. About the only time I will dirty flash is if I'm just updating the current system I'm running. Even then I've had minor problems.
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For example i want to flash slimkat to my stock partition using safestrap 3.65 for umts spyder, to flash it correctly i have only to do a wipe data/cache/dalvik cache? and then flash it over stock 4.1(which i'm currently running)?? or do i have to perform a format system/data/cache also? thanks in advance...
Yes, I would say you're going to have to wipe everything, being that Kit Kat and Jelly Bean are going to have two different types of system data. They will DEFINITELY conflict with each other if you don't do a full wipe.
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Yes, I would say you're going to have to wipe everything, being that Kit Kat and Jelly Bean are going to have two different types of system data. They will DEFINITELY conflict with each other if you don't do a full wipe.
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i installed safestrap, booted into recovery selected advanced wipe, wiped everything except internal sd and external sd, so i wiped my system also, i was running jb 4.1 stock, installed slimkat 2.6 and during the installation my phone screen turned black and then rebooted and got into bootloop. should i flash slim kat over jb stock? wiping only data cache and dalvik? i think that problem occurred when i wiped system, but i dont know... please someone tell me how to correctly flash slimkat to stock slot using safestrap 3.65 for umts Spyder
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i installed safestrap, booted into recovery selected advanced wipe, wiped everything except internal sd and external sd, so i wiped my system also, i was running jb 4.1 stock, installed slimkat 2.6 and during the installation my phone screen turned black and then rebooted and got into bootloop. should i flash slim kat over jb stock? wiping only data cache and dalvik? i think that problem occurred when i wiped system, but i dont know... please someone tell me how to correctly flash slimkat to stock slot using safestrap 3.65 for umts Spyder
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I've completely rewritten the first post in this thread. Please go over it, for verbatim instructions.
Helron said:
Cool! I am running KitKat of Gnex as primary and it rocks. But, on primary phone, xt912, using Cm1 Kitkat on Slot 1 (Aviator) with old Jelly bean stock. UGH! So, u r saying u installed kitkat to stock and is all still good??? Why did you not wipe system since u threw out stock?
Also, not very sharp with JBX. Is itdiffcult to install? can u point me in the right direction.
Boot up on kitkat slot1 is sooooooooooooooooooo slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. would like to try it as primary. Any help is appreciated.
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Hey, I rewrote my guide for flashing on stock.
YES!!! Put that bad boy on stock and watch yourself cry out of sheer joy.. as if you got a new phone!
YES!!! Boot time is so much faster for stock slot than any other slot!!
Jbx kernel is easy to install. Google "xt912 jbx xda" and the guide will be there. Just download and go to safestrap and install it. Its a zip like everything else. Also check mark the moto x camera when the options pop up. 1080p almost 100% stock camera. (Only missing steady hand feature)
Just one thing.... Disabling core 1 of the cpu causes the phone to become incredibly more responsive... so not only is core 1 wasting my battery, its also slowing down the damn phone!!! EDIT: Using the built in CPU turner, and setting to performance finally fixed it for me.
if i wipe everything should't that wipe my intenal memory which contains the rom i want to flash?? i was lost at that part, where should i put the rom and gapps before flashing?
I am trying to confirm if the Safestrap Rom Slot selected makes any difference in the rom's performance. I posted previously about the poor 4g/lte service I am getting on my Verizon Razr Maxx running CM 10.2.
I have CM 10.2 running out of Rom Slot 2. Do I need to use Rom slot 1?
Also, since I have CM 10.1.3 in Rom Slot 1, how can I exchange them between Rom Slots to move 10.2 to slot 1 and 10.1.3 to slot 2? I was wondering if I could just use ES File explorer and rename the folders, and then safestrap would see them as being exchanged. Anyone know if that would work?
Thanks for your help.
I have not seen any significant performance differences from what slots. I use Slot 1 as that's the one the ROM was build for (and used to require)
I'm not sure about renaming the folders. My recommendation if you wish to avoid installing again I use backup and restore. Backup both slots and then restore to where you are.
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cigator said:
I am trying to confirm if the Safestrap Rom Slot selected makes any difference in the rom's performance. I posted previously about the poor 4g/lte service I am getting on my Verizon Razr Maxx running CM 10.2.
I have CM 10.2 running out of Rom Slot 2. Do I need to use Rom slot 1?
Also, since I have CM 10.1.3 in Rom Slot 1, how can I exchange them between Rom Slots to move 10.2 to slot 1 and 10.1.3 to slot 2? I was wondering if I could just use ES File explorer and rename the folders, and then safestrap would see them as being exchanged. Anyone know if that would work?
Thanks for your help.
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As far as custom slots are considered in Safestrap, they are same for newer versions. While stock slot is different and result in better boot time and power consumption.
For changing the slots, as above post says, use backup and restore. Renaming might work (never tried) but there's a fair chance it might screw up.
This was my first time rooting an S4. I installed safestrap and installed Hyperdrive rom. My issue is that my internal storage is completely full. It says that misc files is taking up 15gb of space and it's system memory.
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This was my first time rooting an S4. I installed safestrap and installed Hyperdrive rom. My issue is that my internal storage is completely full. It says that misc files is taking up 15gb of space and it's system memory.
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I'm in the same boat. Trying to find out if I can install HyperDrive over the Stock ROM without bricking the phone. I'm hoping that will free up a lot of space as I would need to wipe the slot prior to installing. Just a little worried about doing it.
One thing I did do was boot into Stock and remove all apps, updates, and as much stuff as I could. This didn't have any effect on the loss of space. I know that while digging through posts on these forums I saw a lot of outrage when the S4 first came out about all the bloatware that took up a good 6gigs of space on a stock phone.
Also when I did the backup of the Stock ROM onto the SD card, I made sure that I moved it off the SD Card and onto an external Hard Drive for safe keeping and to free up some space on my SD Card. I also deleted the HyperDrive install as well since it is 1.xGigs of space on the SD card.
Sorry I don't have anything really to contribute, but would be interested in hearing if you find a way to free up some space as well.
I run all of my roms in stock slot because of that very reason. I have a stock rooted backup I keep on my computer so it doesn't accidentally get deleted from SD card and to also save space on my external. I haven't had any problems at all with running any tw based custom roms in the stock slot. Just make sure your base is compatible with the roms you flash. HD15 requires mj7 or mk2 just do like normal and flash the modules after the install and before booting into the rom.
Profit and enjoy the extra space [emoji1][emoji106]
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The best way to do this is to Odin to stock, root, install safestrap, copy System/lib/modules folder to ext SD or comp. Back up stock slot in safe strap recovery. Then wipe stock slot and flash hyperdrive 15 and mk2 or mj7 (according to your build) modules. Reboot then replace system/lib/modules with the one you copied from stock and Fix it's permissions.
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klabit87 said:
I run all of my roms in stock slot because of that very reason. I have a stock rooted backup I keep on my computer so it doesn't accidentally get deleted from SD card and to also save space on my external. I haven't had any problems at all with running any tw based custom roms in the stock slot. Just make sure your base is compatible with the roms you flash. HD15 requires mj7 or mk2 just do like normal and flash the modules after the install and before boring into the rom.
Something that will save plenty of time would be to backup your slot 1 and wipe your stock slot then restore your hd15 backup of slot 1 and restore it to the stock slot and flash kernel modules for good measure. Delete slot 1.
Profit [emoji1][emoji106]
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Your post confuses me. I tried flashing hyperdrive to stock then modules, and i had no wifi. And this is directly from hashcodes safestrap thread
.*DON'T RESTORE A CUSTOM ROM-SLOT BACKUP TO THE STOCK ROM. THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BRICK YOUR PHONE.
The only way I've had it work is the method I posted above.
Have you successful restored a tw custom rom to stock slot or are you just assuming it will work?
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The best way to do this is to Odin to stock, root, install safestrap, copy System/lib/modules folder to ext SD or comp. Back up stock slot in safe strap recovery. Then wipe stock slot and flash hyperdrive 15 and mk2 or mj7 (according to your build) modules. Reboot then replace system/lib/modules with the one you copied from stock and Fix it's permissions.
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Your post confuses me. I tried flashing hyperdrive to stock then modules, and i had no wifi. And this is directly from hashcodes safestrap thread
.*DON'T RESTORE A CUSTOM ROM-SLOT BACKUP TO THE STOCK ROM. THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BRICK YOUR PHONE.
The only way I've had it work is the method I posted above.
Have you successful restored a tw custom rom to stock slot or are you just assuming it will work?
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Ah. Gotcha. I must have just gotten lucky then haha.
I will omit that so nobody runs into that.
I did restore from slot 1 to stock. But what I did was backup slot 1, wipe everything on stock slot, restore backup to stock slot then flash modules.
Like I said though I must have gotten lucky.
But why would you want to copy the files in the lib folder? Isn't that the same as flashing the modules before booting into the rom?
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Ah. Gotcha. I must have just gotten lucky then haha.
I will omit that so nobody runs into that.
I did restore from slot 1 to stock. But what I did was backup slot 1, wipe everything on stock slot, restore backup to stock slot then flash modules.
Like I said though I must have gotten lucky.
But why would you want to copy the files in the lib folder? Isn't that the same as flashing the modules before booting into the rom?
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All I know is that I tried just flashing modules and wifi wouldn't even turn on. When I researched it the solution above is the one I found.
k1mu said:
Here's what you do to recover your Wifi.
First, if you didn't overwrite the stock slot:
1. Boot your stock slot.
2. Copy the two files in /system/lib/modules to your EXTERNAL sdcard.
3. Boot the custom slot.
4. Use your favorite root file manager to mount /system read-write, then copy those files from the external sdcard into /system/lib/modules in your custom slot.
5. Reboot. Wifi should be back.
Second, if you flashed over the stock slot: :crying:
Well, you've written over the factory modules. You'll need to get them back.
A. Find someone with the same device as you that's unmodified and ask them for the contents of /system/lib/modules. Copy them to your /system/lib/modules.
B. Remove Safestrap and install a factory stock ROM. You can now use Safestrap to flash into a different slot and use the directions above.
If you INSIST on flashing over the factory ROM again (i.e. you haven't learned why that's a bad idea), then copy off the files to your external sdcard before you install Safestrap, then go to step 4 above after you finish flashing the custom ROM.
C. Take apart a factory ROM image and extract the contents of the /system/lib/modules directory onto your external sdcard. Go to step 4 above.
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Hmm. Well that is good to know for future flashes. I guess I probably wouldn't have been looking for a solution like that unless I had that problem.
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Hmm. Well that is good to know for future flashes. I guess I probably wouldn't have been looking for a solution like that unless I had that problem.
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Like you said, you were lucky. Because if the module zip were the same, why would one need to get the unmodified one from a stock rom rather than downloading the one from the safestrap thread? I'm guessing the module zip is meant to work on rom slots and not the stock. Idk how yours worked, but to the OP : flashing to stock slot is not recommended by hash and you won't get any support/help from him as he states in his thread, so proceed at your own risk. But the above method has worked for me and others . Good luck.
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Like you said, you were lucky. Because if the module zip were the same, why would one need to get the unmodified one from a stock rom rather than downloading the one from the safestrap thread? I'm guessing the module zip is meant to work on rom slots and not the stock. Idk how yours worked, but to the OP : flashing to stock slot is not recommended by hash and you won't get any support/help from him as he states in his thread, so proceed at your own risk. But the above method has worked for me and others . Good luck.
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Yeah. I have the patience to work with it. Plus I been with safestrap since it first came out for the razr so I knew what I was getting into when I unfortunately had to do a warranty claim on my mdk due to a faulty touch screen digitizer.
If I get it screwed up too bad I just start over with Odin.
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Flashed HyperDrive RLS15 over the stock ROM this morning. Flashed the Modules before reboot and after install. Only issue I had was TouchWiz Home crashing on occasion, but a kindly soul on here told me it looked like it was an issue associated with restoring data. Although I didn't restore data, I also chose to just flash over the Stock ROM and use the installers Wipe/Factory Reset option instead of wiping the ROM slot first. All I had to do was boot into recovery with SafeStrap and Wipe the new ROM, reboot, and good to go.
Oh, and the free space on the device using the flashed Stock ROM is now close to 6Gigs! Oh the Glory! Gonna give everything a few days and if it all remains good to go, I'll delete the RLS14 ROM and maybe try some other ROM's out, now that I have room.
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Flashed HyperDrive RLS15 over the stock ROM this morning. Flashed the Modules before reboot and after install. Only issue I had was TouchWiz Home crashing on occasion, but a kindly soul on here told me it looked like it was an issue associated with restoring data. Although I didn't restore data, I also chose to just flash over the Stock ROM and use the installers Wipe/Factory Reset option instead of wiping the ROM slot first. All I had to do was boot into recovery with SafeStrap and Wipe the new ROM, reboot, and good to go.
Oh, and the free space on the device using the flashed Stock ROM is now close to 6Gigs! Oh the Glory! Gonna give everything a few days and if it all remains good to go, I'll delete the RLS14 ROM and maybe try some other ROM's out, now that I have room.
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glad you got it figured out. Good luck.
Hi there,
I'm very happy with my BMM however I noticed that I am part of a minority for some reason. Anyone knows why?
Further more, it seems that most tutorials to install nightly releases are mostly done for Safestrap. I really like my BMM and had a look at Safestrap but it does not seems very appealing to me. Should I consider to switch from BMM anyway?
Is Safestrap better than BMM? What good reasons would I have to switch, apart from the fact that its a software that has more spread.
Thanks in advance.
Vonz
vonz33 said:
Hi there,
I'm very happy with my BMM however I noticed that I am part of a minority for some reason. Anyone knows why?
Further more, it seems that most tutorials to install nightly releases are mostly done for Safestrap. I really like my BMM and had a look at Safestrap but it does not seems very appealing to me. Should I consider to switch from BMM anyway?
Is Safestrap better than BMM? What good reasons would I have to switch, apart from the fact that its a software that has more spread.
Thanks in advance.
Vonz
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Had been on BMM for a very long time while running stock ROM. When I finally decided I wanted KK and options opened up in the custom kernel area to keep hdmi, I finally flashed slimkat and JBX to slot2. After about three days, I switched recoveries to safestrap and didn't look back.
It isn't that I didn't like BMM or to say BMM is a bad recovery or didn't serve it's purpose. The main reasons were that:
1. I ran out of space fast with slot1&2 loaded up, and I couldn't find a way of repartitioning the sd card with BMM. So I would have to go to slot3 to not run into "running out of space" issues since that would not run off the system side of the sd card. Not a big deal except sometimes I need the space.
2. I didn't want two or more ROM's on my phone, I had already had a good setup with SlimKat and JBX so, I didn't use, or even want the stock ROM anymore, but can run into trouble trying to flash them into slot 1 of BMM, while you can flash to slot1 on safestrap with no problems at all.
3. You CAN repartition the sd card with Safestrap so if I did decide I wanted another ROM, I could repartition my sd card to better accomodate my ROM's and apps, and not have to worry about losing space again.
TL : DR I was going to have to make sacrifices or accomodation's to keep BMM around so it is safestrap for me Maybe I am lazy, maybe not, but either way it is right in front of my face with safestrap, with BMM I did some digging, didn't find, lost interest and flashed!
Well,I don't think that SS is better because SS takes free space from internal memory for second slot.
In BMM second slot is on webtop partition,so you have your full 8gb available.
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welder73 said:
Well,I don't think that SS is better because SS takes free space from internal memory for second slot.
In BMM second slot is on webtop partition,so you have your full 8gb available.
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Ahh, I agree, and disagree. Yes BMM will put the second slot on top of the webtop partition, but that is only 1.3 gb if I am correct. One ROM and a few bulky apps/games, and slot2 is filled up. You once again get insufficient space toasts, even with another 2 gigs sitting on your card, because your system partition is filled up(slot 2 apps go into the slot2 partition which was webtop.) Sure you can swap back and forth between ROM's for various things but, some people don't want to have to swap between 2 ROM's for all their apps to accommodate a recoveries limitations that doesn't suit them.
And also remember some of that 8 gigs is cache, so we really never get to use it for our own purposes anyways, it is for the system.
Safestrap you can flash to the stock slot, and you can reconfigure the partitions to accomodate any other slots so that you don't get insufficient storage issues. Does it use internal memory, yes it does, but then again, that is the best source for unhindered space, and the phone does have ext. card capabilities so it isn't putting near the burden on us as, say, it would a nexus device.
Just my opinion, and I have nothing against BMM, it was a great recovery! It just doesn't suit my needs anymore.
Draxin said:
Ahh, I agree, and disagree. Yes BMM will put the second slot on top of the webtop partition, but that is only 1.3 gb if I am correct. One ROM and a few bulky apps/games, and slot2 is filled up. You once again get insufficient space toasts, even with another 2 gigs sitting on your card, because your system partition is filled up(slot 2 apps go into the slot2 partition which was webtop.) Sure you can swap back and forth between ROM's for various things but, some people don't want to have to swap between 2 ROM's for all their apps to accommodate a recoveries limitations that doesn't suit them.
And also remember some of that 8 gigs is cache, so we really never get to use it for our own purposes anyways, it is for the system.
Safestrap you can flash to the stock slot, and you can reconfigure the partitions to accomodate any other slots so that you don't get insufficient storage issues. Does it use internal memory, yes it does, but then again, that is the best source for unhindered space, and the phone does have ext. card capabilities so it isn't putting near the burden on us as, say, it would a nexus device.
Just my opinion, and I have nothing against BMM, it was a great recovery! It just doesn't suit my needs anymore.
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I agree,everyone has different needs,for me it's enough 1.3gb.
But what do you mean by "you can flash to the stock slot",you can do it with BMM also?
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welder73 said:
But what do you mean by "you can flash to the stock slot"
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I guess I didn't complete the comment as I did in the previous post. The stock slot can be flashed in BMM but problems can arise. At least they did for me. It wasn't for a lack of trying but, when I was done and rebooted, I got logo, hijack, and then blank, twice! First time restored stock slot and redownloaded ROM, second time ended up being a firmware reflash.
I am not above saying I did something wrong, I probably did, but heck if I know what it was, I had no problem flashing slot2, and have had zero issues with safestrap. Same download of ROM and Gapps that were used in second flash was used in slot2 BMM and Safestrap. So I am not going to say BMM CAN'T do it, I am just not going to say it can when I couldn't do it successfully.
So I retained from previous comments that SS could help with saving memory? Correct? If so that is definitely interesting. Further more BMM is discontinued development am I right?
I will give SS a go and see what happens (even though the interface is not as schmick as BMM, oh well..!) .
So in order to switch from BMM to SS I shall save my stock ROM that is on slot 1 and my CM10 that is on slot 2, then uninstall BMM from settings/apps menu, then install SS, reboot in SSR and install CM11 from zip file correct?
Cheers.
ttt
vonz33 said:
So I retained from previous comments that SS could help with saving memory? Correct? If so that is definitely interesting. Further more BMM is discontinued development am I right?
I will give SS a go and see what happens (even though the interface is not as schmick as BMM, oh well..!) .
So in order to switch from BMM to SS I shall save my stock ROM that is on slot 1 and my CM10 that is on slot 2, then uninstall BMM from settings/apps menu, then install SS, reboot in SSR and install CM11 from zip file correct?
Cheers.
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Yes BMM does seem to have discontinued development. Doesn't mean Boot menu manager right now isn't good, just means there probably won't be any more improvement.
As for saving space, no, safestrap doesn't do that. When you install a second slot in BMM it will install it on top of the webtop partition(read and watch your tutorial's on how to do this correctly.) So it isn't taking any extra space yet, the downside to that is that it is limited to 1.3gb. If you don't use alot of apps, or going to be using it strictly for testing ROM's, then it isn't a big deal. Any more slots after that eats into your internal storage.
Safestrap from what I understand, won't install a slot on top of webtop, instead, when you install to slot 1 it will be taking space from your internal storage right off the bat. You can choose from 1gb, 2gb, or 3gb, size for your new slot partition. Same for any more slots you make. The more space you take for one slot partition, the less you leave for any others you would make. From what I understand though, with safestrap, you CAN still remove webtop for stock slot (I haven't needed to yet) so the 1.3 gb is freed up for more storage to stock.
As welder and I had discussed prior, it completely depends on your needs. If you don't have alot of apps, and want to dual boot a stock ROM and a custom one... BMM will do you fine. If you have a lot of apps or games and want to dual boot both ROMS with both of them loaded up, then safestrap is the way to go. Some ROM's play well with one recovery but not the other, there are also work arounds in some cases.
Any of your backups from one will not work with the other
Draxin said:
Yes BMM does seem to have discontinued development. Doesn't mean Boot menu manager right now isn't good, just means there probably won't be any more improvement.
As for saving space, no, safestrap doesn't do that. When you install a second slot in BMM it will install it on top of the webtop partition(read and watch your tutorial's on how to do this correctly.) So it isn't taking any extra space yet, the downside to that is that it is limited to 1.3gb. If you don't use alot of apps, or going to be using it strictly for testing ROM's, then it isn't a big deal. Any more slots after that eats into your internal storage.
Safestrap from what I understand, won't install a slot on top of webtop, instead, when you install to slot 1 it will be taking space from your internal storage right off the bat. You can choose from 1gb, 2gb, or 3gb, size for your new slot partition. Same for any more slots you make. The more space you take for one slot partition, the less you leave for any others you would make. From what I understand though, with safestrap, you CAN still remove webtop for stock slot (I haven't needed to yet) so the 1.3 gb is freed up for more storage to stock.
As welder and I had discussed prior, it completely depends on your needs. If you don't have alot of apps, and want to dual boot a stock ROM and a custom one... BMM will do you fine. If you have a lot of apps or games and want to dual boot both ROMS with both of them loaded up, then safestrap is the way to go. Some ROM's play well with one recovery but not the other, there are also work arounds in some cases.
Any of your backups from one will not work with the other
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Thanks for your reply, Draxin.
Which one are you using? I take it you are using BMM. You are talking about a tutorial.... this is A thing I could not find. Let me know if there is one, and if so where I can get it from.
My main concern is that I wanted to give a shot to CM11 and it seems that the install is not 100% reliable, even with the BMM workaround. So maybe I shall wait for a release candidate to occur.
I have 80 user apps apparently under CM10 according to Titanium Backup, is that a lot?
Also you talk about this webtop thing... After some research it appears that a webtop is a desktop integrated in a web browser. What does it have to do with android platform more exactly?
I mostly have 2 used slots, Official Moto ROM on slot 1 (just in case but never use it) and CM10 on slot 2 as it was advised on a youtube video. If I have to test a kexec ROM I usually backup my CM10 and try it out on slot 2, to avoid munching all the space on side storage.
So what do you recommend for us at this stage?
Thanks in advance.
Vz
vonz33 said:
Thanks for your reply, Draxin.
Which one are you using? I take it you are using BMM. You are talking about a tutorial.... this is A thing I could not find. Let me know if there is one, and if so where I can get it from.
My main concern is that I wanted to give a shot to CM11 and it seems that the install is not 100% reliable, even with the BMM workaround. So maybe I shall wait for a release candidate to occur.
I have 80 user apps apparently under CM10 according to Titanium Backup, is that a lot?
Also you talk about this webtop thing... After some research it appears that a webtop is a desktop integrated in a web browser. What does it have to do with android platform more exactly?
I mostly have 2 used slots, Official Moto ROM on slot 1 (just in case but never use it) and CM10 on slot 2 as it was advised on a youtube video. If I have to test a kexec ROM I usually backup my CM10 and try it out on slot 2, to avoid munching all the space on side storage.
So what do you recommend for us at this stage?
Thanks in advance.
Vz
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I am using safestrap now, I had been using BMM for a while til I started flashing custom ROM's. After that safestrap suited MY needs better
BMM tutorials: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325764
CM11 requires safestrap 3.65 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900
If you really want to try out CM11, and then it doesn't live up to your expectations, you can always go back to BMM and restore the backups you saved to where you are right now. SlimKat I know for a fact will install with BMM. You just have to make sure to completely uninstall whatever recovery you had previously, before adding a new one
It doesn't matter so much how many apps you have, as, how much space they take up. If you are just taking a ROM for a test run, you don't need all your apps, especially if you are dual booting, if you are going to use slot 2 as a daily driver, and they are bulky apps, that is when you get concerned.
Webtop, basically allows you to explore your phone as if it were a desktop computer, bluetooth keyboard, and the phone's touchscreen will act as a laptop touch pad, or you can run a bluetooth mouse, and using a typical tv with hdmi in as a moniter. Motorola thought it would be a bigger hit than it turned out to be. It really is a neat idea, turning your phone into a handheld desktop but, it has plenty of limitations. For most people, if they even know what it is, it's just taking up space.
What do I recommend? Well, it completely depends on what you are looking to do. Like I said before bro, you can save what you have with BMM, uninstall it and try out safestrap. If you don't like it, uninstall safestrap and go back to BMM and reinstall your backups, no harm, no foul. If you really like safestrap, then dump your BMM backups as they are just taking up space at that point. With titanium backup, as long as you saved your apps and modified data, call logs, wifi, and sms, really all you cost yourself in the switch, is time setting everything back up.
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Cool bro.
Will try ST to see what happens. Thanks again you're a true gentleman.