When I looked closely at the second depth sensing camera on the back of my phone, I noticed that the sensor is located slightly to the left of the vertical line below it. I also noticed that whenever I use the foreground effect, the outlines are always offset to the left in portrait mode and either up or down depending on which orientation landscape mode is in. Does anyone else have this problem with their HTC One? Should I contact HTC to replace mine? I am going to be using this phone for 4 years so I want it to be in the best possible condition.
Same here, htc m8 from UK o2. Just noticed this today.
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Hey all, I searched, but couldn't find anything on this.
I'm here in Canada. This is my first Android phone/Touchscreen phone. So i'm not sure if the issue is just my lack of experience or if there is a legit issue.
(btw I ordered my sgs2 from handtec, and got it with no issues.)
Issue:
Dead screen sensor?
Symptoms: (see below picture for example)
My issue is when I am in portrait mode (with the samsung branding at the top), swyping words that start with
A,S,Z (and to some extent W,E,D) letters it "hiccups"? for lack of a better description and registers that i hit/touched both S and Z instead of just S.
When I'm in landscape mode (with samsung to the left) It appears to be the K and M letters. which correspond to the areas of S,D,Z,X from portrait mode....
Question:
Does this happen to anyone else? Is this me? or the screen? or what?
I love swyping, but this just ruins the experience as i can't seem to ever get it to accept what i'm typing/swyping with any word starting with aszd
as an addendum, I can replicate it practically all the time.
It almost seems as if the screen stops recognizing the swype/finger, then has to start again and so then re-registers a starting point, and then the prediction is wrong because of the sudden stop/start.
After looking at the problem a bit more, and using one of the test codes to test the screen, I found that swyping slowing from right to left near the problem area reveals a spot where the line deviates from my swype path.
Possible that I have a bad screen with a dead sensor area?
Here is a picture of what i mean: my finger line never changes - ie: it's straight. note the line that results though!!
Second picture:
I've taken a screen cap on the test page to show you what i mean. I think there is a dead sensor space and the line jumps to the next nearest sensor. It is very annoying, and makes text-tapping, or swyping, very very difficult.
see picture. In this picture i am swyping my finger from right to left. The lines seem to be straight in some areas north/south of the problem area, but when the line meets the problem area, it swerves. above or below.
Sigh, nobody?
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Just as an update, if anybody else is/was having this issue: Turns out the screen had a dead spot on the sensors. Had to ship phone back to Handtec (at my cost which sux) for a replacement. Still waiting for replacement.
my original 3D was a HT16 serial # I got through the premier order deal and had a slight tilt to the screen so I got telesales to send me another. The new one is an HT17 serial #, both version 2's and the 2nd(HT17 having the OTA applied obviously but the original one still on first OS. Now on to the differences I've noticed so far.
HT16(original)
Screen-> darker/slight yellow whites(or more realistic) when compared to the new one.
dmesg showed the following:
"panel: mipi_cmd_novatek_qhd"
"<6>[ 1.797454] mipi_novatek_panel_type_detect: panel_type=PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT"
HT17(newer just received)
brighter whites somewhat fake at times i guess you could view it.
power button was very mushy and much tougher to work compared to the HT16 which was very firm and clicky.
dmesg showed:
"<6>[ 1608.757825] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT"
Now on to the odd thing. I took pictures with both phones in the exact same location and settings and you can tell when viewing on the phone that one has lil brighter(maybe faker) whites. I thought possibly that it could be just because of the screen and the photo taken would look the same on a PC but they dont. you still see the diff in whites on home PC. Also somehow the photos size were different with the HT17(brighter whites) coming in at 611KB, and the older HT16 file was 776KB.
Now whats even funnier is that when you select the photo in the gallery and view details the HT17(brighter whites) lists it at 478KB and the HT16(original) lists its size at 613KB. This is different fromt he size thats listed when you email it, and even whats listed next to it when you attach it in an email.
I double checked all settings too in the camera and even tried setting them both to manual settings instead of auto's and got the same results.
Now this had me wondering if maybe they used diff camera sensors or something along those lines given the pics look different on a computer as well, or maybe its an OS issue all together??? I got the replacement b/c my screen is tilted some but this difference in whites has me confused since the camera is doing it and not just on the screen. Not sure if I like the brighter one or not.
I attached the two pics taken of my american bulldog below. 25 is from the original one and 16 is the newer one. These were taken with flash off btw.
sgt. slaughter said:
my original 3D was a HT16 serial # I got through the premier order deal and had a slight tilt to the screen so I got telesales to send me another. The new one is an HT17 serial #, both version 2's and the 2nd(HT17 having the OTA applied obviously but the original one still on first OS. Now on to the differences I've noticed so far.
HT16(original)
Screen-> darker/slight yellow whites(or more realistic) when compared to the new one.
dmesg showed the following:
"panel: mipi_cmd_novatek_qhd"
"<6>[ 1.797454] mipi_novatek_panel_type_detect: panel_type=PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT"
HT17(newer just received)
brighter whites somewhat fake at times i guess you could view it.
power button was very mushy and much tougher to work compared to the HT16 which was very firm and clicky.
dmesg showed:
"<6>[ 1608.757825] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT"
Now on to the odd thing. I took pictures with both phones in the exact same location and settings and you can tell when viewing on the phone that one has lil brighter(maybe faker) whites. I thought possibly that it could be just because of the screen and the photo taken would look the same on a PC but they dont. you still see the diff in whites on home PC. Also somehow the photos size were different with the HT17(brighter whites) coming in at 611KB, and the older HT16 file was 776KB.
Now whats even funnier is that when you select the photo in the gallery and view details the HT17(brighter whites) lists it at 478KB and the HT16(original) lists its size at 613KB. This is different fromt he size thats listed when you email it, and even whats listed next to it when you attach it in an email.
I double checked all settings too in the camera and even tried setting them both to manual settings instead of auto's and got the same results.
Now this had me wondering if maybe they used diff camera sensors or something along those lines given the pics look different on a computer as well, or maybe its an OS issue all together??? I got the replacement b/c my screen is tilted some but this difference in whites has me confused since the camera is doing it and not just on the screen. Not sure if I like the brighter one or not.
I attached the two pics taken of my american bulldog below. 25 is from the original one and 16 is the newer one. These were taken with flash off btw.
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I'll be you it's just a metering difference. Probably took two slightly different exposures.
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I'll be you it's just a metering difference. Probably took two slightly different exposures.
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And I would expect that but I took many pics and they all were the same result when you compared the two.
is there a way to check for camera hardware manufacturers like we can for the screen?
Interesting, I wonder if the camera freezing for people is related to this at all, doesn't seem like everyone has it or maybe people don't use the camera enough.
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Interesting, I wonder if the camera freezing for people is related to this at all, doesn't seem like everyone has it or maybe people don't use the camera enough.
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i think its more because not many have 2 of them side by side able to compare. I know if i didn't i wouldn't know the difference or see anything wrong really.
Hi,
I was taking some snaps with my S2 today and I was trying to spot meter on some bright lights so that I could expose for them and underexpose the rest of the scene. However, I realized that spot metering only works at the center of the screen. To my knowledge, the phone should spot meter at the point that I decide to focus on. When I tap to focus it should automatically spot meter on that region. That is how it works on my friends HTC legend and thats how it works on my Nikon D300s. Spot metering should be done based on the autofocus point but it doesn't work this way on my phone. I have to spot meter using the center of the scene, keep the shutter button pressed, recompose and then release to take a snap. Could someone explain why this is not working as it should or is this just samsung's weird implementation of this feature.
Galaxy Camera Spot Metering
radicalgel said:
Hi,
I was taking some snaps with my S2 today and I was trying to spot meter on some bright lights so that I could expose for them and underexpose the rest of the scene. However, I realized that spot metering only works at the center of the screen. To my knowledge, the phone should spot meter at the point that I decide to focus on. When I tap to focus it should automatically spot meter on that region. That is how it works on my friends HTC legend and thats how it works on my Nikon D300s. Spot metering should be done based on the autofocus point but it doesn't work this way on my phone. I have to spot meter using the center of the scene, keep the shutter button pressed, recompose and then release to take a snap. Could someone explain why this is not working as it should or is this just samsung's weird implementation of this feature.
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So, I have noticed the same issue on the S3, spot meter and center wieghted metering only works on the center of the screen, even if your focus point is somewhere else. I dont recall the original Galaxy S being programmed like this, most other phones I have also tried (iphone 4 and iphone 5, droid x) all allow you to spot meter on your desired focused point.
Apparently, samsung beleives your focal point of your picture should always be in the center of your picture! I find this odd, considering they have put so many features in the phone to appeal to photographers, but they seem to have left left out a basic metering function that is available on most other phones, and one that is vital in creating shots with proper exposure control.
Does anyone know of android camera application that allows for more contoll over the spot metering capabilities?
Thanks.
deving said:
So, I have noticed the same issue on the S3, spot meter and center wieghted metering only works on the center of the screen, even if your focus point is somewhere else. I dont recall the original Galaxy S being programmed like this, most other phones I have also tried (iphone 4 and iphone 5, droid x) all allow you to spot meter on your desired focused point.
Apparently, samsung beleives your focal point of your picture should always be in the center of your picture! I find this odd, considering they have put so many features in the phone to appeal to photographers, but they seem to have left left out a basic metering function that is available on most other phones, and one that is vital in creating shots with proper exposure control.
Does anyone know of android camera application that allows for more contoll over the spot metering capabilities?
Thanks.
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That's a really a very interesting topic!! Also Bada 1 linked the exposition to AF, (i took amazing shoots) while in Bada 2 this feature has been lost: the exposure is always weighted to the center of image. It is very common in other devices (for example in my lumia 620) (there you cannot even choose the metering mode...) and cameras too (canon, but not nikon..)
Anyway the old Galaxy S advance has still the exposition calculated on the focus point... Why have they changed? It's a so stupid thing...
The spot metering function on my camera seems to have stopped working. When you choose spot metering mode in the camera and use your finger to point at a bright object on the edge of the screen, the exposure does nothing. Samsung tech support confirmed that the exposure is supposed to be adjusted to that spot that you touched but it doesn't do it on my S3. It used to work but just stopped a couple of weeks ago. What's even stranger that some S3's seem to work fine but others also don't work - I tried whole bunch of them today in various stores and some work just fine but others don't work at all.Is yours broken?
Homey said:
The spot metering function on my camera seems to have stopped working. When you choose spot metering mode in the camera and use your finger to point at a bright object on the edge of the screen, the exposure does nothing. Samsung tech support confirmed that the exposure is supposed to be adjusted to that spot that you touched but it doesn't do it on my S3. It used to work but just stopped a couple of weeks ago. What's even stranger that some S3's seem to work fine but others also don't work - I tried whole bunch of them today in various stores and some work just fine but others don't work at all.Is yours broken?
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Mine is broken as well, it only focuses. That's probably related to the fact that my manual exposure controls also don't work though.
It never occurred to me that spot metering should work according to the area you touch. I had always assumed that spot metering takes the reading from the centrer spot on the camera like a DSLR.
Mine only focuses, it does not meter the point that I touch.
Actually, this functionality has been there from the Galaxy S so it's nothing new or revolutionary!
I think that most people don't use the camera as anything more than a simple point and shoot, which is a pity because its easily as good as the iPhone 4S camera and perhaps even a bit better, and we all know the fuss people make about that.
There are a lot of users wandering around with broken cameras but no one seems to care, as you can tell from the number of responses to the original post!
I was always wondering why my S3 only does spot metering at the center spot. Is this a bug or a feature? I think my spot metering is broken but if it should work only at the center then it's fine. Can somebody clear this up?
I'm so glad someone else has this problem - not in a mean way. It's just infuriating me at the moment - was trying to take a sunset picture today and realised it wasn't working when I tapped on the different areas. Infuriating, but not sure how to fix!
same issue here... my Galaxy S does it wonderfully right with spot metering on the spot I touch... my S3 which has a far better cam miserably fails at spot metering and only takes the center average... so spot metering is just broken
Galaxy Note 2 has same camera hardware and software as the S3. My spot metering worked in the past while on the stock rom. I'm on a custom rom, Jedi rom, and it no longer works. This is a TW based rom so I'm surprised it doesn't work. But from what I'm hearing, users on stock firmware are having problems as well.
Thanks to those who stuck it out diagnosing and raising the level of awareness around this problem. Almost every thread I find has some long-winded helpful genius in it explaining to us how we don't understand what spot metering is and that there is no problem. Sometimes you have to be extremely persistent on the net or your problem will be buried by the highly motivated know nothings.
I hope this problem is figured out. I, for one, would NOT trade a faster camera against one with spot metering. These cameras have tiny sensors and will never be great (I have aps-c and full frames). The ability to expose a particular point properly with no regard for the rest of the frame is the only saving grace for these cameras with so narrow a dynamic range due to the small sensor.
I'm learning in this search that this is a big reason most people take poor pictures with camera phones. They don't know how to use the spot metering to mitigate (somewhat) the limitations of the small sensor. I'll report back when/if I find a solution.
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Galaxy Note 2 has same camera hardware and software as the S3...
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And guess what... SGS4 has the exact same issue with their cam!!! Can you believe it? I could for one not... When I was testing out the SGS4 in the phone store with stock firmware... it had no touch spot meter that would measure where I push... but the same dumb center weighted spot meter it has in SGS3 and NOTE2. I am disappointed Samsung... it has the best camera but without a proper spot meter. :crying::crying::crying:
I am starting to think this has been done intentionally to dumb things down a bit... or they have some patent issue with apple or someone else with their "touch to spot meter" tech... sigh... patents...
Sigh... I tried asking about this when I first got my GS3 back in October. Same thing.. I don't get how this hasn't been addressed. You can see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963959
I even contacted Samsung France where I am, Samsung USA, and even my mobile carrier and nobody could answer. The shameful thing was that Samsung's TECH SUPPORT didn't even know what I was talking about. I kind of gave up.
A trick for you guys which seems to have worked for me...
Ironically, before getting the GS3, the spot meter worked brilliantly on my HTC myTouch4G. You would touch a spot, wait for it to register with a beep and then wherever you moved, it locked in that exposure. Try this...
- point the screen to the place you want the exposure to be set for
- tap the screen there to focus
- only when you've seen it focus (green square) and heard it beep signaling exposure and focus lock, press and HOLD the shutter button and move to the framing you actually want
- let go of the shutter to take the picture
I have found that it takes one or two tries but it DOES work. You will see that the moment you let go of the shutter, it will go back to what the exposure would have been where you framed.
Feel free to ask questions if this doesn't make sense.
I can't get that to work. But I may not be following the instructions correctly. The beginning steps aren't clear for me.
Center the desired focal point on the screen then touch and lock that point. Then press and hold shutter. Then recompose picture. Then release shutter.
This doesn't work for me. Holding the shutter button doesn't lock the exposure.
Also wondering if this problem is hardware or software. I installed ProCapture app which is supposed to have spot metering which didn't work on my Galaxy Note 2. Just FYI.
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Hi guys! It's a pleasure for me to notice that other people are struggling for this problem!!!:high five:
I remember that my Samsung Wave 2 , with Bada 1.2, gave me amazing shots: the exposition were linked to the focus point. Then with Bada 2.0 all has changed and, independently from the metering method the exposure is alway always weighted at the centre of the image.
Ok one can make recomposition, but it takes minutes and a the results are not so brilliant.
Now I have a Lumia 620: same problem, i'm getting crazy!!
Does anybody knows the reason of this stupid choice??
i select spot-metering mode, point at my brightly sunlight desk, i click different areas of the screen and while focusing the colours seem to change saturation and "fill".. does this mean my metering is working?
Yeah! If the colors of the photo change on the basis of your taps on the screen, then you have the exposure that follows the AF point. You are very lucky!!
Notice that in many devices even if you choose spot metering, the spot is linked to a central point of the image!
But does it happen only with spot or also with other metering modes?
yep mine's broken too not sure if it worked before it fell on the floor but i highly doubt that it worked in the first place it's damn sad that the S3 is such a great phone but has a partly broken cam on 90% of the S3's and still they didn't fix it in the S4
Thank you so much for the quick fix
ive tried over 20 apps
messed around with 100's of setting..... no dice
tinpanalley, your tip is the only way yo make this work
this is by far THE WORST camera a phone could ever had, i feel very sorry for people who purchased the S3 for it's incapable camera.
and the funniest thing is that they screwed up the s4 camera as well, L O L
I just wonder what angel the back camera (screen side) should have. On my sg321 in horisontal mode i have to tilt the top slightly towards me and this is the oposite of what any angle should be if any. In vertical, it will tilt slightly one or the other way ant this is quite anoying. Is this supposed to be right? Neutral angle/position would be more correct than this.