Hello Guys,
As the title says i want to use the phone without battery but with charger plugged in. This can be really helpful in gaming as there will be less heat ,unlimited power and i wont have to charge the device again and again (i know i can do the same with battery but thank my battery wont live for long)
In simple words RUN DEVICE WITHOUT BATTERY!
Anyone of you have any idea to do this?
Sounds Insane
I think so its not posible!
Althoug you may google it, you might find something!
Prince Chandela said:
Hello Guys,
As the title says i want to use the phone without battery but with charger plugged in. This can be really helpful in gaming as there will be less heat ,unlimited power and i wont have to charge the device again and again (i know i can do the same with battery but thank my battery wont live for long)
In simple words RUN DEVICE WITHOUT BATTERY!
Anyone of you have any idea to do this?
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Bro thr is no way of doing it coz if u remove ur batter the device won't start up without the battery even though it is in charging condition so I'm afraid it can't happen
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i think it will damage your phone
jayadu said:
Bro thr is no way of doing it coz if u remove ur batter the device won't start up without the battery even though it is in charging condition so I'm afraid it can't happen
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Device do work while battery removed! Like when we flash it through spft!
The only needed thing is hardwork and open mind! I do.think it is possible but not much sure!
I think there is a hardware hurdle in doing so
(Laptops have the required hardware. )
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recently i removed battery by mistake while charging and to my surprise it was still running. i thought it was normal
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Well the title says it all, I was charging my phone and was playing prototype in the computer (unrelevant data ) but it was like 97% of battery, the screen its always on (since i plug it when it has 30%), and i say ok ok 3% more to go, and start to play again , later when i get a message of a friend, take the cellphone and the battery was at 84% so I think it reaches 100% and then (it was still obviusly plugged, and the screen never turns off) it starts to discharge so quickly... somebody are gettin this type of behavior too??? its like the fifth time that happen to me.... or at least i notice that....looks like its a random behavior
I have ICS 4.0.4 but when i have GB happen that too
jacker60 said:
Well the title says it all, I was charging my phone and was playing prototype in the computer (unrelevant data ) but it was like 97% of battery, the screen its always on (since i plug it when it has 30%), and i say ok ok 3% more to go, and start to play again , later when i get a message of a friend, take the cellphone and the battery was at 84% so I think it reaches 100% and then (it was still obviusly plugged, and the screen never turns off) it starts to discharge so quickly... somebody are gettin this type of behavior too??? its like the fifth time that happen to me.... or at least i notice that....looks like its a random behavior
I have ICS 4.0.4 but when i have GB happen that too
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you can try wiping battery stats and see whether that solves your problem
jacker60 said:
Well the title says it all, I was charging my phone and was playing prototype in the computer (unrelevant data ) but it was like 97% of battery, the screen its always on (since i plug it when it has 30%), and i say ok ok 3% more to go, and start to play again , later when i get a message of a friend, take the cellphone and the battery was at 84% so I think it reaches 100% and then (it was still obviusly plugged, and the screen never turns off) it starts to discharge so quickly... somebody are gettin this type of behavior too??? its like the fifth time that happen to me.... or at least i notice that....looks like its a random behavior
I have ICS 4.0.4 but when i have GB happen that too
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You might be better off asking in here aswell considering that whole thread is about Xperia S battery life.
I have exactly the same problem pretty much all the time. Most of the time I can kind of understand it because I'm a really heavy user of my phone and will normally be playing music, while texting away, being on here and playing a game such as Modern Combat 3 all at the same time.
But even if I'm only using XDA for example, the battery will still start going down while I'm charging. It'll go from full to approx 80% and stay around that mark.
This is one of the many reasons I'm really tempted to get rid of this phone and get the SGS2 instead #_-
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ttiimm said:
you can try wiping battery stats and see whether that solves your problem
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Unfourtanely I'm not a root user , I have locked bootloader, and right now I know I can get root, but have to go back to GB and right now I feel to lazy to reinstall all my applications and loose my progres on wheres my water :silly:, besides i think when I upgraded to ICS wipe everything... and before that I used to have the problem
KidCarter93 said:
You might be better off asking in here aswell considering that whole thread is about Xperia S battery life.
I have exactly the same problem pretty much all the time. Most of the time I can kind of understand it because I'm a really heavy user of my phone and will normally be playing music, while texting away, being on here and playing a game such as Modern Combat 3 all at the same time.
But even if I'm only using XDA for example, the battery will still start going down while I'm charging. It'll go from full to approx 80% and stay around that mark.
This is one of the many reasons I'm really tempted to get rid of this phone and get the SGS2 instead #_-
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, well I try to search if someone say already something about that, but in a quick view dont found anything , as I understand you were playing and doing other stuff while you were charging the phone, well that happens to me too, it starts to discharge... even if its plugged, specially with games like "Shadowgun" (a very good game BTW ), doing other stuff I dont have this problem, the only thing its that the charge only take more time...
I think that if you only use XDA app dont happen that, only the charge will be too slow... anyway there is a problem there... but the thing its that im not doing anything and it takes charge to 100% and then starts to discharge doing nothing! did that happen to you?
My sister have a Galaxy SII, its pretty good too, the only thing is that the UI of Samsung its so ugly , but the good thing is that there are more dev's and more ROM's to change in the SII that in XPS
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Yeah even if I'm just using XDA it takes a lot longer to charge than it should do and I know for a fact there's not a problem with my charger because it charges my brother's S2 brilliantly.
And yes mine has the same problem with draining when doing nothing. Battery drain while idle has always been a hot talking point since this phone was released really and it doesn't seem to have gotten too much better than it was to start with.
Not gonna lie though, if I knew about this phones problems when I got it, I would've probably gone for the S2 instead.
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why on earth u keep the screen on while charging? it's the biggest drainer. try using battery monitor widget to see the current that coming or going to ur phone.
when the screen on and data on (3G only) my SXS discharge at 250-760 mA if u have 0.75 A charger or 0.85 A charger it's over the discharging current, so it'll discharge. and dont forget that once the phone get above 90% it'll lower it's current input. so with the screen on and ur phone's above 90% u'll discharge faster.
when u in 84% u'll get the current again only when u re-plugged the charger.
IMO, u better turn the screen off, data off while charging. i use EP850 charger (rate 1.5A), with data off i got charging current bout 1200 mA and got lower to 500 mA when hit 90% (it only take bout 1 hour from below 10% battery, did SGS2 can do this ). i rarely charge to 100%.
KidCarter93 said:
Yeah even if I'm just using XDA it takes a lot longer to charge than it should do and I know for a fact there's not a problem with my charger because it charges my brother's S2 brilliantly.
And yes mine has the same problem with draining when doing nothing. Battery drain while idle has always been a hot talking point since this phone was released really and it doesn't seem to have gotten too much better than it was to start with.
Not gonna lie though, if I knew about this phones problems when I got it, I would've probably gone for the S2 instead.
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Well, I think that I dont search enough, dont see anybody complainign about this, well yes indeed there is a problem with that, but uhm, well i preffer XPS over SII
m1st3r1 said:
why on earth u keep the screen on while charging? it's the biggest drainer. try using battery monitor widget to see the current that coming or going to ur phone.
when the screen on and data on (3G only) my SXS discharge at 250-760 mA if u have 0.75 A charger or 0.85 A charger it's over the discharging current, so it'll discharge. and dont forget that once the phone get above 90% it'll lower it's current input. so with the screen on and ur phone's above 90% u'll discharge faster.
when u in 84% u'll get the current again only when u re-plugged the charger.
IMO, u better turn the screen off, data off while charging. i use EP850 charger (rate 1.5A), with data off i got charging current bout 1200 mA and got lower to 500 mA when hit 90% (it only take bout 1 hour from below 10% battery, did SGS2 can do this ). i rarely charge to 100%.
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LOL, well a old practice since I have android, always leave the screen on , i dont know I like to see the screen on while I'm charging, can see the hour and the notificactions I have without even touch it , never had a problem, but I see that I have to change that habit I dont want to know how many time will take charge it via USB, like 5 hours I think
Well thanks for helping me with this doubt :highfive:
i bought a charger online it looks very much like the original bundled one. However i have a couple of questions
1. is there a way i can check the output quality using the phone itself and not a multimeter . Like variation in voltage/current?
2. using a multimeter do i have to tear apart the charger to check the output quality.
any inputs are welcome
sarfaraz1989 said:
i bought a charger online it looks very much like the original bundled one. However i have a couple of questions
1. is there a way i can check the output quality using the phone itself and not a multimeter . Like variation in voltage/current?
2. using a multimeter do i have to tear apart the charger to check the output quality.
any inputs are welcome
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Depends on what you mean by 'output quality'. If you mean the ripple (noise), especially in response to load changes, then no, you can't without oscilloscope and dummy load.
If you do not have this measuring equipment, then I would use these two simple tests:
does the empty phone fully charge within 2 - 3 hours ?
does the touchscreen stay responsive while charging ?
If you can answer both of these questions with yes then one could assume the charger is of good quality.
thanx for an informative reply man. the thing is i use usb charger usually battery is 8 months old . i dont know how long it will charger to recharge. giving these conditions u still think it will take 2-3 hours to charge ? yes the touchscreen stays remains but i think there is the usual "noise " that makes minor error in touchscreen smoothness. do u understand wat i am trying to tell u.
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thanx for an informative reply man. the thing is i use usb charger usually battery is 8 months old . i dont know how long it will charger to recharge. giving these conditions u still think it will take 2-3 hours to charge ? yes the touchscreen stays remains but i think there is the usual "noise " that makes minor error in touchscreen smoothness. do u understand wat i am trying to tell u.
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the minor 'touch screen smoothness' issue will be there while charging thro wall charger for sure and also the charging time do wary depending on how old the battery is
sarfaraz1989 said:
thanx for an informative reply man. the thing is i use usb charger usually battery is 8 months old . i dont know how long it will charger to recharge. giving these conditions u still think it will take 2-3 hours to charge ?
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If the battery is fine (and it should still be after 8 months) charging of an empty battery should happen within 2 - 3 hours.
sarfaraz1989 said:
yes the touchscreen stays remains but i think there is the usual "noise " that makes minor error in touchscreen smoothness. do u understand wat i am trying to tell u.
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If you are able to normally operate your phone while charging, then this is ok.
ok. i will do that and get back to u guys. just one thing. wat info can i get from phone regarding charging current /voltage ? also the original capacity was 1650 mAh . can i recalibrate and get the "new" mAh is there anything like this ? i calibrate my laptop' battery every two months and get its capacity in terms of mW. anything similar to phones ?
sarfaraz1989 said:
ok. i will do that and get back to u guys. just one thing. wat info can i get from phone regarding charging current /voltage ? also the original capacity was 1650 mAh . can i recalibrate and get the "new" mAh is there anything like this ? i calibrate my laptop' battery every two months and get its capacity in terms of mW. anything similar to phones ?
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Search the play store for Battery Monitor Widget. It can give you some more information about your battery, charging, discharging etc.
Hello guys
I like the "BatteryFullNotification" option on stock MOTO ICS rom, it helps me to avoid over charging
But one question, the notification is too short and i cant hear that sound during the night and cause over charging
I want to modify it to use "ringtones" as the alert instead of using "notification sounds" and also alerts at 100% battery instead of 95%
How can i do? I cant find any tutorial in the forum
Thanks.
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Over charging ?
Sorry for asking, but is the first time when I hear something like that .
Can you elaborate about that?
Cnorm said:
Hello guys
I like the "BatteryFullNotification" option on stock MOTO ICS rom, it helps me to avoid over charging
But one question, the notification is too short and i cant hear that sound during the night and cause over charging
I want to modify it to use "ringtones" as the alert instead of using "notification sounds" and also alerts at 100% battery instead of 95%
How can i do? I cant find any tutorial in the forum
Thanks.
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Download Full Battery Alarm(there are few more ) from google play ... .
You cant overcharge, theres a ship that controls the current to charge, and after 90% I think, it trickle charges till 100%, and once that it reached it will just run the phone off the charger power and not touch the battery power until unplugged.
AndroidGreg said:
You cant overcharge, theres a ship that controls the current to charge, and after 90% I think, it trickle charges till 100%, and once that it reached it will just run the phone off the charger power and not touch the battery power until unplugged.
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Greg , the answer to that question is not that straight forward , when you study the life cycle of a battery you might want to take back your words, the cut off chip is just a small part of it when you consider it on a long run ...
Let me put it in a simple line , the most stressful portion of the charge happens from 90 to 100% , this causes a shrinking effect[ reducing the safe charge holding capacity] in a battery each time it undergoes it , and the longer you leave it in a 100% charge state the faster it ages.
FoxKat has given an eloborate description of the same here , you may want to read this , it might change your view :
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sm...ussion/212072-bad-habit-charge-overnight.html
hey
i am using rooted sony ericsson wt19i last mouth i bought battery from ebay the brand of the battery is KINPS and capacitive is 2200mAh with using this battery phone is repeatedly reboots i saw in the hidden menu that battery temperature is between 60C-55C i dont belive that that battery in the first seconds got this temperature and its heat like the original one no difference i heard its because phone protection can i change that?.
what i would do?
thanks and sorry about my bad english.
Well you said your battery has 2200 mAh. Im looking right now my wt19 original battery and it says it's just 1200 mAh so there u got one reason why your battery is overheating. More energy = more heat. My phone just got to like 45 C° if im charging it while hard-using it at the same time but 55-60? the phone seriously has a hard time recognizing and adapting to the new "fake" battery. If problem keeps try to get a new original battery i don't know how much problems at future can bring using a higher voltage battery
Zebaahx said:
Well you said your battery has 2200 mAh. Im looking right now my wt19 original battery and it says it's just 1200 mAh so there u got one reason why your battery is overheating. More energy = more heat. My phone just got to like 45 C° if im charging it while hard-using it at the same time but 55-60? the phone seriously has a hard time recognizing and adapting to the new "fake" battery. If problem keeps try to get a new original battery i don't know how much problems at future can bring using a higher voltage battery
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its not real overheat i dont know if the battery is real fake its have a brand i cant believe it reach this temperature in few seconds from reboot
i think its protection of the phone i dont know really what to do.
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danielad200 said:
its not real overheat i dont know if the battery is real fake its have a brand i cant believe it reach this temperature in few seconds from reboot
i think its protection of the phone i dont know really what to do.
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Is it solved or still overheating? you can try powering off so, let it calm about 10 minutes. so open the battery. if so, try calibrating it...
have you ever checked your battery health?
Definitely fake battery...even my Xperia ion is 1900 mAh MAX battery
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the battery shows as overheat in hidden device menu i cant believe the temperature reach to 60c in first 10 seconds
danielad200 said:
the battery shows as overheat in hidden device menu i cant believe the temperature reach to 60c in first 10 seconds
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Throw the battery away and buy an Official one, that's the only solution.
XperienceD said:
Throw the battery away and buy an Official one, that's the only solution.
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Gotta agree with this dude...just throw away that battety or you can just claim ur money back
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thank you all
Firstly always use the official parts and secondly decrease your touch screen sensitivity...search a guide for this on XDA...it'll most probably solve ur prob
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Hello all
I am using Mega 5.8 for 15 days now, everything is great. . Battery too is fine works for the whole day and some more but I find it strange that after reaching 20% the battery dies within minutes and phone shuts down. I thought that might be due to new battery but after 10+ recharge cycles this behavior have not changed.
Can anyone confirm that its a common thing with Mega 5.8 or there's some issue with my device.
Also while we are at it any idea when we might get 4.3 update for Mega?
Thankd
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Ditto !
I have the same problem . battery reaches 15% and then dies off in no time... So i take my battery as 85% generally . Not sure whats going wrong . But seems like firmware problem . Guys any solution ?
gauravxda said:
I have the same problem . battery reaches 15% and then dies off in no time... So i take my battery as 85% generally . Not sure whats going wrong . But seems like firmware problem . Guys any solution ?
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If you have root you can use Battery calibration app from the Play store.
gx3k said:
If you have root you can use Battery calibration app from the Play store.
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Thanks for the heads up gx3k , but just to clarify i am not new to rooting . Have galaxy S2 which is full blown modified .
I downloaded battery calib app and deleted stats like 10 times...tried to manually delete the stats bin folder....but nothing has worked . I feel the culprit is the rom .
Haven't rooted the phone but don't believe this to be a calibration issue.
May be its firmware but how to confirm unless we get an update.
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Same problem with me
Just try this . One you are in middle of your discharge like around 50% just remove the battery for 20 secs and put it back . You will see in battery you have already lost 10-12% of battery . I think this is the case of either wrong battery reporting or bad batteries. Just have to wait for a custom rom to cross check this .
GalaxyMega 5.8 battery life
Same thing here. Already tried calibration. Didn't help.
Was charging it. Removed it from the charger at 60%, I removed the battery and put it back in. The battery % then showed 74%.
fredbvalani said:
Same thing here. Already tried calibration. Didn't help.
Was charging it. Removed it from the charger at 60%, I removed the battery and put it back in. The battery % then showed 74%.
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Yes definitely there is a problem. Battery was at 31% then I removed battery and put it back. It dropped to 8%. had to connect it to charger.....
Have anybody tried the latest firmware for October if the battery issue is solved?
i've updated my galaxy mega 5.8 duos to latest firmware,still not fixed.. :crying:
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i've updated my galaxy mega 5.8 duos to latest firmware,still not fixed.. :crying:
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Very few users complain about this, maybe because there are only a few of us or it is not an issue as very seldom users remove the battery?
As for me when the level goes between 20-30% which is usually on the 3rd day I recharge the battery.
Indian Devil said:
Hello all
I am using Mega 5.8 for 15 days now, everything is great. . Battery too is fine works for the whole day and some more but I find it strange that after reaching 20% the battery dies within minutes and phone shuts down. I thought that might be due to new battery but after 10+ recharge cycles this behavior have not changed.
Can anyone confirm that its a common thing with Mega 5.8 or there's some issue with my device.
Also while we are at it any idea when we might get 4.3 update for Mega?
Thankd
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Dude Battery callibration could help you .. same condition was wid me .. i callibrated n now my battery is MEGA now
1.Root ur fone
2.drain your battery to zero
3.short all your battery terminals to make sure your battery is totally dead..
4.then charge your battery to 100%
5.n press CALLIBRATE from ur callibration software.
i will like to tell you that some processes drain ur battery very rapidly ,, i removed some apps n processes and now battery lasts,
so i will advise u too flash ur fone completly takin ur data backedUp..
aakashdahake said:
Dude Battery callibration could help you .. same condition was wid me .. i callibrated n now my battery is MEGA now
1.Root ur fone
2.drain your battery to zero
3.short all your battery terminals to make sure your battery is totally dead..
4.then charge your battery to 100%
5.n press CALLIBRATE from ur callibration software.
i will like to tell you that some processes drain ur battery very rapidly ,, i removed some apps n processes and now battery lasts,
so i will advise u too flash ur fone completly takin ur data backedUp..
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Whatever you do "DO NOT SHORT YOUR BATTERY TERMINALS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE" That's a fire hazard. Lithium Ion batteries can generate massive heat very quickly and have been known to explode on occasions.
Practise good battery management by charging your battery whenever possible and keep it on charge for as long as you can. This will condition it to give maximum performance.
Remember you can't get a battery to give any more power than it has from the charge you give it.
Calibration does nothing to the battery it only allows the software to monitor more accurately.
Lithium Ion batteries should never be allowed to discharge below a preset level as they will then die and will not charge again
lol im about to create a thread about this issue, i thought its only me who experienced this issue,, i've encounter this problem as well,, everytime the battery reach the 15% or the low battery warning, it drains very fast from 15 to 1% it just like about 2 minutes then my phone shuts off due to very low battery level
oh yea,, try the *#0228# it shows the real battery %. in my experience,, from 40% battery suddenly drop to 18%. btw for the calibration apps from the playstore, it just delete your batterystats.bin which have no benefit at all. anyone who encounter this problem please share your experience
I installed Battery Notifier and adjusted the low battery alarm at 25% . It is just a workaround but it serves the purpose.
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bongski55 said:
Very few users complain about this, maybe because there are only a few of us or it is not an issue as very seldom users remove the battery?
As for me when the level goes between 20-30% which is usually on the 3rd day I recharge the battery.
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so.. what do you think? is this a software issue or a hardware issue?? cuz if its hardware issue, my mega and the battery still under warranty. iam confused is it really US who encounter this issue or the others didnt realize it cuz they never drain their battery until 15%.
aakashdahake said:
Dude Battery callibration could help you .. same condition was wid me .. i callibrated n now my battery is MEGA now
1.Root ur fone
2.drain your battery to zero
3.short all your battery terminals to make sure your battery is totally dead..
4.then charge your battery to 100%
5.n press CALLIBRATE from ur callibration software.
i will like to tell you that some processes drain ur battery very rapidly ,, i removed some apps n processes and now battery lasts,
so i will advise u too flash ur fone completly takin ur data backedUp..
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okay our issue is NOT about BATTERY LIFE, but about BATTERY PERCENTAGE,, DUDE.
in this review the reviewer encounter the same issue like us
"A couple of times we experienced a sharp dip in battery life when the levels went below 20 percent"
nezt94 said:
so.. what do you think? is this a software issue or a hardware issue?? cuz if its hardware issue, my mega and the battery still under warranty. iam confused is it really US who encounter this issue or the others didnt realize it cuz they never drain their battery until 15%.
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Hardware or software I don't really know.
As I use the mega 5.8 as my daily phone I see to it that I dont go below 20%. And evry other day or a maximum of 3 days I always recharge my phone. Perhaps other users have a similar routine so very few if any, complain about the issue on this thread.
bongski55 said:
Hardware or software I don't really know.
As I use the mega 5.8 as my daily phone I see to it that I dont go below 20%. And evry other day or a maximum of 3 days I always recharge my phone. Perhaps other users have a similar routine so very few if any, complain about the issue on this thread.
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yea, i think thats why only few people who noticed this issue, they rarely use their phone below 20%. btw i just post a new thread in samsung developers forum, dont know where to report this issue so i post it there lol
i've try calibrating the battery, no differrnce at all. oh man , i wish samsung realized this issue