Anyone notice any difference between ART vs Dalvik Run Time options? I've been hearing that switching to ART has very little but beneficial battery and performance boosts. What are the rest of your experiences?
AFAIK you can't do ART and xposed...which means I won't be using ART until that changes
From what I've heard there is a good performance increase, but some apps aren't compatible.
Mixed reviews....only way to know is see/try for self....
I switched to art the other day (GPE conversion here). So far performance is still very good, battery still very good, maybe a little better. There is a pretty comprehensive list somewhere that says what apps are compatible or not. I went through and made sure my core apps were compatible and then flipped the switch. So far I haven't run into any compatibility issues. From what I understand is that Google will be using art in the next Android version so it would behoove developers to start making their apps compatible with art.
Edit:battery is noticeably better, although not by that much.
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I've found ART actually runs the whole phone slower than an optimized dalvik build. Only the opening of apps is faster. Plus you lose xposed, and other support, like theming since everything has to be odexed.
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acPIZZA said:
I switched to art the other day (GPE conversion here). So far performance is still very good, battery still very good, maybe a little better. There is a pretty comprehensive list somewhere that says what apps are compatible or not. I went through and made sure my core apps were compatible and then flipped the switch. So far I haven't run into any compatibility issues. From what I understand is that Google will be using art in the next Android version so it would behoove developers to start making their apps compatible with art.
Edit:battery is noticeably better, although not by that much.
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Do you have the link to those list of apps?
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Do you have the link to those list of apps?
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http://www.androidruntime.com/list
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I've owned a bunch of HTC phones but have been having issues with my new HTC Rezound. Whenever I exit certain applications the stock launcher reloads and displays the HTC Splash Screen. Seems to happen most often with Draw Something (but does happen with other apps as well). Anyone else have a similar issue or know of a fix?
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I am actually surprised to say this but I am going to say it (knocks on wood) anyway. I know exactly the issue you are speaking of with sense phones in general. have had it happen tons of times on phones from the Droid Eris, to Incredible 1 & 2, TBolt, and they have all done this. I am into week 2 of my rezound and haven't seen it once. {walks away and launcher redraws}.
Are you running any tweaks or mods like the leedroid tweaks?
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I've owned a bunch of HTC phones but have been having issues with my new HTC Rezound. Whenever I exit certain applications the stock launcher reloads and displays the HTC Splash Screen. Seems to happen most often with Draw Something (but does happen with other apps as well). Anyone else have a similar issue or know of a fix?
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On my Incredible, I used V6 Supercharger to prevent this (and it worked amazingly well!).
I have V6 on my Rezound, and in the 30+ days I've had it, I've had exactly one re-draw of the launcher, and I really think that was my fault. Check it out!
V6 Supercharger
Thanks for the input. Mine is totally bone stock...I just received it yesterday. On my Incredible it would happen once in a great while. On the Rezound it happens almost consistently. And I wouldn't mind if it didn't take the launcher so long to recover.
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Thanks for the input. Mine is totally bone stock...I just received it yesterday. On my Incredible it would happen once in a great while. On the Rezound it happens almost consistently. And I wouldn't mind if it didn't take the launcher so long to recover.
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When sense does that it either has run out of Memory or forced closed
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I figured as much. But that means I'm constantly out of memory which is odd for a bone stock phone. I even turned off back ground processes that might have been sucking up memory. It's bad enough that it makes me want to return the phone.
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I figured as much. But that means I'm constantly out of memory which is odd for a bone stock phone. I even turned off back ground processes that might have been sucking up memory. It's bad enough that it makes me want to return the phone.
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It could be a memory leak in an app. If you notice it happening with a particular app try uninstalling it and see how it runs.
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I've turned off fast boot and cpu timelines which has seemed to help thus far. Worse case I guess I could just restore the phone and reinstall one app at a time. Main culprit definitely seems to be Draw Something though.
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I've turned off fast boot and cpu timelines which has seemed to help thus far. Worse case I guess I could just restore the phone and reinstall one app at a time. Main culprit definitely seems to be Draw Something though.
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Have you checked to see how much memory draw something uses? I know that words with friends is a memory hog.
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Good call. Draw Something uses 72MB which is nearly twice as much as other average apps. In fact I would argue that it's almost unacceptable. I still can't believe the launcher wouldn't have a higher memory priority over other user apps though.
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I noticed this happens when I use Scramble With Friends. It used about 130 MB of memory. Sometimes more so I uninstalled it. Sense uses about the same amount of memory. I think because the phone gets low on memory it shuts down Sense because it is using lots of memory. Seems ridiculous that this happens, but it does.
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Sense 3.5 takes up a ton of memory so when its not used and other programs require more ram sense is unloaded. Once you go back to the home screen it has to be reloaded.
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Draw Something, Facebook, Any of those games and whatnot constantly streaming data, seem to decide to use all your ram for no reason. I like ICS for the reason that now you can close stuff when your done with it
So when ICS rolls out with Sense 3.6 they'll hopefully have this fixed. I bought this phone for Sense and I'm just amazed how fickle it seems this far.
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I noticed this happens when I use Scramble With Friends. It used about 130 MB of memory. Sometimes more so I uninstalled it. Sense uses about the same amount of memory. I think because the phone gets low on memory it shuts down Sense because it is using lots of memory. Seems ridiculous that this happens, but it does.
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That's half the answer the problem is the ram is supposed to dump the apps from the ram in order of least important but for some reason the sense launcher drops to a less important level when not in use (to give back more ram I guess). Like many people have said V6 will fix this problem and is super easy to use so I would give that a try is a great script.
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Ya I'm definitely thinking about trying that out. But it requires root doesn't it? Not sure I'm ready to sacrifice my warranty just yet. I wish I could just reprioritize Sense in system settings.
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Ya I'm definitely thinking about trying that out. But it requires root doesn't it? Not sure I'm ready to sacrifice my warranty just yet. I wish I could just reprioritize Sense in system settings.
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I'm pretty sure they still take back rooted phones
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As long as you restore it back to stock right. Lol.
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Ya I'm definitely thinking about trying that out. But it requires root doesn't it? Not sure I'm ready to sacrifice my warranty just yet. I wish I could just reprioritize Sense in system settings.
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They don't even care about that lol. Replaced my rooted Incredible, no problem!
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OK so i've had my LTEvo since launch have noticed reoccurring lag during many scenarios. Whats up with that? I had an Epic 4G Touch and even the og EVO never had the same insane slowdowns. The problems got MUCH better after i started using custom ROMS (meanROM) but never completely gone.
For example:
1) While updating apps from google play. System becomes almost unusable while updating.
2) When a single app is busy. I get that CPU resources are being used by the busy app but my previous phones knew how to prioritize tasks much better
3) The famous App drawer lag. Really? This one is not really a big deal but it's kinda shameful.
4) When RAM is low. I thought android was suppose to intelligently free up RAM
OK so this post is kind of a rant and i've pretty much learned how to use my phone to work around the slowdowns but I shouldn't have to. If someone has solutions for reducing the overall system hiccups it would be greatly appreciated.
After I slapped on a ROM with the latest OTA, my performance increased significantly; however, I never experienced what you outlined below. What hardware model do you have and what version of Mean ROM are you running?
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I'm running MeanROM 2.1 @1.7ghz. The ROM helped a lot but not completely. Hardware version 0003.
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We are just not going to know what these phones can do until a aosp..
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I tried UKB - which is very similar to stock, and then the Digital dream. The latter is gorgeous with its transparent apps menu. Only downside was the fatass Facebook app that I loathe. I could not uninstall it(let me know if I am missing something).
I just want to know what ROM you have on your DNA, and if you like it, why?
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I tried UKB - which is very similar to stock, and then the Digital dream. The latter is gorgeous with its transparent apps menu. Only downside was the fatass Facebook app that I loathe. I could not uninstall it(let me know if I am missing something).
I just want to know what ROM you have on your DNA, and if you like it, why?
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Im using battery plus rom and love it, the 320 dpi looks great, its stable i have yet to have any issues. only real gripe is that you have to unlock the phone to see whos calling but im using the app called Ultimate Call Screen which fixes that. and my battery on average lasts about 9-10 with a good amount of use. im waiting for a solid and stable CyanogenMod because i fell in love with it since my Evo
I'm on Viper, and you cannot dislike this ROM. It allows you to customize nearly anything you can think of. Tweaks galore.
Why would you want to reduce ppi from 441 to 321? DNA's selling point is its display.
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Does it tweak ur ppi? I love streaming my home movies through XBMC and watch HD in this phone. I love the 441 ppi that this phone comes with.
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Dpi not ppi ..software can't change hardware..so not ppi that's always there
Got it, stupid me
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Viper DNA rom. Its a beast :thumbup:
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Hatka DNA
Using Hatka DNA at the moment. Started off with MikROMs Codis because I was familiar with MikROMs from the Rezound and EVO3D but there were quite a few bugs in the rom and the Aroma installer, random reboots, freezing and so on with too much time in between updates.
Haven't tried any of the others yet. Taking a look at Viper. Getting great stability, battery life and speed with Hatka though.
Try digital dream. It's beautiful esp the app menu that's translucent.
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I use GSM Virtuous Rom is really fast and stable, battery performance is certainly a little worse but I can live with it, just as I recommend the Virtuous team know yourself, the better even with the battery life, I can only continue
I've been using my HOX+ for a little over 4 months now and I can already tell it's going to go down as my favorite Android phone to date (with the exception of the Nexus One, it still holds a special place in my heart). With that said though, while I find HTC's customization of stock Android very useful in some areas, I'm now seeing the effects it has on the overall performance of the phone. I got my dad an Xperia TL and was using it for a week or so to get it ready for him and even though the HOX+ smacks the heck out of it with it's CPU numbers, the fact of the matter is that the Xperia is much, much [much] snappier since customization of the OS is very limited. You can quickly and easily see the difference by just typing with the keyboard, the HOX+ has that delay/lag to it when typing quickly or using the backspace, however, there is none with the Xperia TL...very similar to my Nexus 7. Swiping aside, my typing accuracy is far better on the Xperia TL and my Nexus 7 than with the HOX+.
It's really unfortunate that we don't have any AOSP ROMS (CM, AOKP, etc) for the AT&T varient because this phone would be fast as heck.
Elegancia has "de-sensed" options if you want a ROM without HTC's sense.
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
Sense 5 should better optimized.
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Maybe Sense 5 without blinkfeed and zoe features?
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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No regrets whatsoever, like I said, still love the phone and my favorite Android to date (#6 now). Just ticked at how Sense or any customization kills the phone's performance potential. I'll give Elegancia once they update it with the latest AT&T update...can't do it now.
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Now you are regretting that you bought HOX+...
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My international HOX+ is fully stock, and its buttery smooth, sgs3 has no match to the smoothness on sense 4+, locked 60 fps.
Tips:
Go into developer options and set all the animations to .5x
tick force gpu rendering.
go to check if 7 digital is running in apps>running, and disable it if it's there.
Disable HTC gestures in display, gestures and buttons
Use the power saver and only tick the conserve cpu usage to underclock cpu to 1.3ghz, it doesn't slow down the device (if you're not rooted)
For the keyboard, try using the trace keyboard option in the sense keyboard
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I find stock android boreing I like touch whiz interface instead of Google stock firmware.with that said there's no feature on vanilla android except run 5 percent faster that's all I tried every nexus device there and look and apeal isn't that great. .
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
veget83 said:
I think the sense interface is the element that most distinguishes HTC from all other manufacturers ....
Unfortunately its beauty is comparable to its heaviness
Maybe the question is how to optimize the sense ....
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It really is. Sense is just beautiful. People complain about how much better TouchWiz is, but Sense is easier to navigate...
It just seems to me that HTC just needs to get rid of some (maybe most) of the proprietary apps when google can supply the same services in a more lightweight manner. Particularly for the AT&T version. You really can't use that version without rooting it and getting rid of the AT&T apps because despite the quad-core processor they REALLY slow it down (not to mention that they drain the battery even if you're not doing much of anything).
It's great after that though. I'm just looking forward to REAL AOSP on my AT&T X+....if hope isn't lost.
Anyone have more TIPS for daily Sense optimization!?!?!?:silly:
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Hopefully Sense 5 will be a lot better.
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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So HTC should focus on optimizing sense... even the "feature overloaded" Touchwiz (compared galaxy S3 of a friend with my x+) is snappier/faster on similar Hardware.
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galaxy s3 with TouchWiz is WAY more laggy and unsnappier then sense on HOX/HOX+ ...i don't know why but the normal hox is really optimized from HTC and it's running on stock locked 60 fps...also th keyboard...a friend of me has also the hox+ and his is also running really good
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Just tried a One at Best Buy. Sense 5 doesn't seem any better to me in terms of performance. It seems pretty similar to what we have now. Sense has become way too bloated for me. I am going to the galaxy s3 actually, because I can at least root it and install an AOSP rom with ease, opposed to the Att One X+.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
I disagree. My girlfriend's stock s3 runs noticeably smoother than my stock hox+ in many situations.
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Hmm, but what about the Trirangle of flashcounter that comes with Samsung Galaxy series....
hTC does not have them...
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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I didn't not know about that. Doesn't it just effect the device for warranty purposes. It just voids warranty after a certain amount of flashes?
Edit: just looked into it, I won't be taking it in for warranty most likely and there is an app called triangle away to reset boot counter if so.
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Yeah that's true... but IMHO its pretty idiotic thing (on part of Samsung)... Compared to it unlocking the bootloader is much easier...
But only if I could S-Off my device
Yea I would like this One X+ a lot more of we had s-off or HTC didn't lock it down so much. The One doesnt have these issues. HTC had to face the brink of corporate failure before they provided a device like the One. I feel a little duped by HTC.
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Will I be disappointed? Will it blow me away?
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Google best phones of 2013, it's awesome as hell & stupid fast.
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Take your time with the LG UI, its much better then you think
You will love it. Really.
Not at all.
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Corylsu said:
Will I be disappointed? Will it blow me away?
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No. Yes.
Best phone overall I've ever owned. And the development on here is awesome. I'm like a kid in a geeky candy store.
coming from HTC and sense I have to say the gui is really nice. stock Wetherclock is ugly as hell... just change.
the camera sux when using flash other then that it's amazing best phone ever
miss not being able to fully unlock bootloader but there is actually no point in doing that when stick Rom is near perfect. just root and disable som blotware
IamPro said:
Take your time with the LG UI, its much better then you think
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I couldn't agree more lol. I've never liked any stock UI but.... it just works nicely. Camera is the only disappoint to me.
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Dont flash cm/pa only because you want to flash something. Stock is faster and easy adjustable.
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Dont flash cm/pa only because you want to flash something. Stock is faster and easy adjustable.
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Come on, faster?
Noooo. 4.4 debloated and running in art mode on this thing is ridiculous fast, and the extra free ram and fewer running processes make for much better multitasking.
I did love the stock rom, but a properly setup aosp rom will always be faster.
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Coming from a Sony xperia with a snapdragon s4 pro, i can only say that i'm blown away like a poor guy that stepped on a mine. Best phone 2013.
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Best phone to date! You will be amazed from the speed and battery life.
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LG G2 and Paranoid Android 4.0 is a match made in geek heaven. I love this phone and haven't even thought of trading it (coming from a guy that has had the S4, iPhone 5, and iPhone 5s all in the past 7 months because he wasn't satisfied.)
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Ghstudent said:
LG G2 and Paranoid Android 4.0 is a match made in geek heaven. I love this phone and haven't even thought of trading it (coming from a guy that has had the S4, iPhone 5, and iPhone 5s all in the past 7 months because he wasn't satisfied.)
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Any extreme bugs? Thinking about switching from cm10.2.
xblackvalorx said:
Come on, faster?
Noooo. 4.4 debloated and running in art mode on this thing is ridiculous fast, and the extra free ram and fewer running processes make for much better multitasking.
I did love the stock rom, but a properly setup aosp rom will always be faster.
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If you have much free ram on android something is wrong. Android is based on Linux and it runs faster with the ram as full as possible.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
nrage23 said:
If you have much free ram on android something is wrong. Android is based on Linux and it runs faster with the ram as full as possible.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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There is no point repeating this, mate. There will always be "smarter" people who will claim that free RAM is good as if our phones were running Windows 95.
How do you like your new G2, OP?
robogo1982 said:
There is no point repeating this, mate. There will always be "smarter" people who will claim that free RAM is good as if our phones were running Windows 95.
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Hey, think what you guys want. Haha
There's a reason they keep including more ram in phone's. But hey you guys know best right?
Hahahaha. K.
More free ram will always allow for more multitasking and a snappier opening of apps. If you geniuses want to run your phone's bogged down to ahead. More running processes also loads the cpu.
There's so much wrong in what you guys are saying it's not even funny.
How do you think the infamous v6 supercharger script worked?
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nrage23 said:
If you have much free ram on android something is wrong. Android is based on Linux and it runs faster with the ram as full as possible.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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That article was written 2 years ago and was incorrect when it was written. Do you understand that an article isn't definitive proof? You just linked me to the opinion of another because you're not intelligent enough to articulate the idea your self.
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Any extreme bugs? Thinking about switching from cm10.2.
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I would take Houstonn's PA 4.0 over CM. I use PA as my daily driver and I don't see any bugs. FYI, I use my G2 as a phone, meaning Emails, calls, sms, internet( for info search only), gps, lite YT and all of these work just fine for me.
Can't complain with mine....coming from L920.....very fast, running with Buckeye 2.1....mostly stock, just debloated.....LG G2 has come a long way from the LG G2x...I hated that phone mostly due to the poor battery life....and the crashes and reboots.....gave it to my son then passed on to his mom, the ex-wife, but surprisingly, she's still using it.
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