I am considering to change my iPhone 5s with Z2, but today i read a forum post where users Z2's back shattered it self without external force. In same forum it is heard even Z1 and similar phones has same issue, where Aluminium Frame use to bend, causing phone to look mess, and glass to shatter.
Now a user in Singapore with Z2 complaining the same thing, within 3 days of his use.
What i wanna know if this bending issue is a myth, propoganda or a reality?
Are only few users affected or all phones prone to this risk?
If this thing is true? how can one buy this phone? i am all down as far as this phone is concern now. ?
Need feed back from everyone regarding knowledge to this scandal, to help others, if its thing to worry or if its not?
One of Many Posts regarding problem on net.
http://www.reddit.com/r/needadvice/...ony_xperia_z1_sucks_self_damaging_smartphone/
If you google it, you will get countless of them!
Don't know for Z2 but I can say something for Z1.
That's users stupidity and nothing more.
Z1/Z2 aren't phones you should put into your back pocket!
I'm using Z1 for a 7 months and I don't have problems wuth it.
Flaps that are protecting usb/cards are still strong (yesterday I wash my phone in water)
No scratch on it and no bending...
When you buy "glass" device for 1000$ then you shouldn't treat it like piece of crap...
If you change IPhone for Z2 you'll be nothing but extremely happy users, finally free to do anything on your device...
No iPhone that can do this
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Don't forget that in Singapore it's very hot even if you don't use the phone. So it shouldn't be a problem if you don't live were it's 36 degree minimum all the time.
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funky0308 said:
Don't know for Z2 but I can say something for Z1.
That's users stupidity and nothing more.
Z1/Z2 aren't phones you should put into your back pocket!
I'm using Z1 for a 7 months and I don't have problems wuth it.
Flaps that are protecting usb/cards are still strong (yesterday I wash my phone in water)
No scratch on it and no bending...
When you buy "glass" device for 1000$ then you shouldn't treat it like piece of crap...
If you change IPhone for Z2 you'll be nothing but extremely happy users, finally free to do anything on your device...
No iPhone that can do this
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Thanks for replying with your 7 month experience.
As far as difference between Android and iOS concern i know it well, because my recent past phones are HTC One X, iphone 5, again iphone 5, LG G2, Galaxy Note 3, iPhone 5s.
Well, i never took Xperia Z and Z1 serious just because of its ordinary viewing angels, but ever since i seen Z2 is doing good in screen, and looks sexy and premium, i thought to swap larger screen of Z2 with smaller screen of iPhone 5s, as iPhone is satisfying me enough, i was all set to sale it and buy Z2 when it becomes available in stable price.
But then i read this thing here on XDA forum i thought Ohhh!
But your 7 month experience put me on path of Z2 again, hopefully its not serious problem, or few phones suffering or its users carelessness!
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Don't forget that in Singapore it's very hot even if you don't use the phone. So it shouldn't be a problem if you don't live were it's 36 degree minimum all the time.
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Well thanks, but i live in Pakistan where is its from 45C to 50C average for half a year in summers?
All i want to know, if this issue exists or not? as far as heating is concern, S4 heated a lot, so as many other sets, but shattering Glass, bending frame is like thrwoing 600$ in dust bin for good?
i live in thailand and it's really hot. never had any problem with shatter glass and phone bending. i even dropped it once by accident. it only had a small scratch on aluminium frame.
Yes this issue exists but like said before it doesn't crack by just laying on table. It cracks if you got too small pocket or phone takes to much pressure. If you are careful it'll be no problem.
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Yes this issue exists but like said before it doesn't crack by just laying on table. It cracks if you got too small pocket or phone takes to much pressure. If you are careful it'll be no problem.
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Well you mean this phone is more weaker and prone to this physical issue then most phones? They claim it being robust phone, water and dust proof? but they made phone fragile and easier to break than most regular phones. It seems bit funny then.
Problem is that middle class people like me when spend 600$ on a phone they hope it should be fault free, because putting another 600$ for new is sad story.
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i live in thailand and it's really hot. never had any problem with shatter glass and phone bending. i even dropped it once by accident. it only had a small scratch on aluminium frame.
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Well good, which phone you are using and since how many months?
Most phones don't have a glass back[emoji6] And an iPhone is much smaller than z2 so it is more robust because the smaller the surface the smaller the risk of breaking glass. But I think there should be no problem if you're no fool[emoji3]
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Most phones don't have a glass back[emoji6] And an iPhone is much smaller than z2 so it is more robust because the smaller the surface the smaller the risk of breaking glass. But I think there should be no problem if you're no fool[emoji3]
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So You mean scenario of frame bent, glass shattering it self is not truth, its just this phone due to its size, slim profile, fragile aluminium and glass on both ends, is prone to break/bend and user need to be extra ordinary careful to prevent it, and if it happens he is confirmed fool
This water proof phone, which means its more robust then ordinary phones is actual more weaker than ordinary phone? One way or other? these doubts may force me to live with 4" screen for sometime now. if i wont buy this, i am not going to upgrade to bigger iPhone either!
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Well good, which phone you are using and since how many months?
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was using the z1 for only 2 months. then i change to lg g2 because i didn't like the display on z1 and it heats up alot. atm i'm waiting to change to z2 when they release it here next month. :good:
I have both and neither has bent or cracked. I use a belt case at work and keep it in my pocket when out of work. These devices are not fragile but not indestructible either. If you want to break it, it can be done. A plastic bag is waterproof and dustproof also, but it can be compromised.
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OMG. I have a Z for almost a year and when using it really alot and having leather pouch
I can say I have almost no marks on it. Still waterproof. Solid. Great quality. No problems.
I want to sell my Xperia ZL for the Xperia Z2, how about its speaker, camera, and build quality? Easy to handle?
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I want to sell my Xperia ZL for the Xperia Z2, how about its speaker, camera, and build quality? Easy to handle?
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Check forum, all these inquiries have been answered. If my opinion matters, I'm satisfied with build, camera and speakers.
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usmanxhmed said:
Well thanks, but i live in Pakistan where is its from 45C to 50C average for half a year in summers?
All i want to know, if this issue exists or not? as far as heating is concern, S4 heated a lot, so as many other sets, but shattering Glass, bending frame is like thrwoing 600$ in dust bin for good?
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Well, I've run GPS under the hot sun (while being docked in car) and the phone became pretty darn hot. It worked perfect though.
I don't think cracking due to heating should be a problem. It all depends on what kind of glass they used as well.
Anyways.. I got married in Karachi in a June and had to be on drips for the first time of my life due to dehydration.. so I can feel you! :laugh:
augie7107 said:
I have both and neither has bent or cracked. I use a belt case at work and keep it in my pocket when out of work. These devices are not fragile but not indestructible either. If you want to break it, it can be done. A plastic bag is waterproof and dustproof also, but it can be compromised.
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Well you seems to be sure, with normal careful use, what we do with all our high end smart phones, this phone can last? it has no severe design flaw.
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OMG. I have a Z for almost a year and when using it really alot and having leather pouch
I can say I have almost no marks on it. Still waterproof. Solid. Great quality. No problems.
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Brother, i don't buy much of its water prove qualities, one would rather be careful with it, even with water, i can say it can resist better in water then normal phones, saying this because i never had water prove phone and never adventure intentionally taking phone in water.
You suggest there is no bending, or glass breaking or self destructive qualities this phone has!
But will it Blend?
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So, I'm guessing there's not one person here who hasn't seen someone using an iPhone with a shattered screen - I reckon you see at least one a week...
My understanding was because the capacitive screens used glass, instead of some kind of plastic on the ole resistive type screens...
So, the x10 has a glass screen, yeah? and so do a lot of devices that are coming out with capacitive screens
So why is it I've never seen a cracked x10 (or heard of one on this forum), or even anything other than a cracked iPhone...?
Are iPhone users just clumsy, or is it bad design...?
Not flaming the iPhone or its users, but why is it the only phone prone to cracking (as far as I can see)
thats a reasonable question. ive dropped my x10 several times now (clumsy i know) but no damage to report yet. i do have a few scratches in the touchscreen protective film from when the cat decided to swipe at the phone when it rang on the coffee table, but thats another story
same.. i've dropped it many times from above the waist level and it's got no scratch/no crack... nada...(i mean the screen)
I remember at least two threads about shattered or cracked x10 displays (ok, over one of them rolled a bus, so don't let us count that one...). It's not a specific problem of the iphone, it's a problem all big displays have to face.
Sorry for not searching the other threads, but it's 2am here and i'm too lazy right now...
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I remember at least two threads about shattered or cracked x10 displays (ok, over one of them rolled a bus, so don't let us count that one...). It's not a specific problem of the iphone, it's a problem all big displays have to face.
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Yeah, seems there were at least 2 others - one got hit by a cricket ball, and another was cracked when the owner was trying to change their cover from black to white...
All of which are more like freak accidents, than common place.
I've seen maybe two shattered iPhones ever, and I see a lot of them on the trains here.
What's the point of this thread? To talk **** about the iPhone...? Like, the iPhone is the highest selling smartphone in the world... which means with their numbers, problems are going to seem bigger than they are, but they're still only a proportional percentage of the total. I would predict a similar percentage of shattered (by dropping) X10 screens as the iPhone.
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What's the point of this thread? To talk **** about the iPhone...?
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Not flaming the iPhone or its users, but why is it the only phone prone to cracking (as far as I can see)
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What's the point of your post? To talk **** about the thread...?
But since it wasn't clear at the start, I'm just curious (I think that's what forums are also for, but maybe they're just to whine about 1.6 and 2.1 )
You are right though, it's probably got a lot to do with the percentage of iPhones, but less than a third of the phones out there are iPhones, so I'd expect there to be more other cracked phones (not just x10's) - you know, 1 iPhone for 2 other phones (maybe a Desire, perhaps a Driod, or god forbid, maybe even a Galaxy S )
but no, I've only seen iPhones, and quite a lot... I recall at least 5
I can't say I see any smartphones outside of the X10 or iPhone on any sort of regular basis here in Japan, but, I've never seen a smashed X10 and only two iPhones.
I don't think any phone is more "prone" to accidents, but it stands to reason that the more mainstream your product becomes, the more irresponsible your customer base will be with your product. Like, for the most part, geeks who take care of their phones will own an X10, but a bunch of kids or people who just don't care.
ive just been in london and while on the underground ive seen 6 or 8 people using cracked screen iphunes, and i have also dropped my x10 afew times and no damage on her what so ever!
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it stands to reason that the more mainstream your product becomes, the more irresponsible your customer base will be with your product. Like, for the most part, geeks who take care of their phones will own an X10, but a bunch of kids or people who just don't care.
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That's a good point... I guess the most 'kids' seem to have iPhones, and out of everyone I've seen with a cracked phone, they certainly appear to be the type of person who wouldn't care too much...
Three cheers for us geeks with x10's !!!
And also, I reckon we're all so careful with our x10's cos we're patiently waiting for 2.1, and who wants to finally get 2.1 on a broken phone...??
ive seen iphones crack from just getting placed on a table. Ive seen pretty bad cracks from iphones being dropped.
Ive dropped the x10 a few times and ive had some pretty heavy stuff land squarely on the screen and its held up. in terms of overall build quality its on par with my blackberrys for sure
the rubberised backing of the x10 makes it harder to slip out of the hands.
I haven't seen or heard many desires with cracked screens either, but quite a few Samsung galaxy s with craved screens.
iPhone's are slippery with their glossy finish and the iPhone 4 is like a wet fish its so slippery.
I cracked mine
I cracked My screen playing golf it fell from about 1 metre and smashed the touch screen but still worked replaced it now for £90 though!
Ive seen one before. It was done on purpose with the end of a bayonet. But it was still smashed (needed to claim on the insurance because it would not charge) smashed a iPhone screen just by dropping it
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Only the black one is rubberized. The white one is quite glossy.
Then again, I use covers on my phone, so my phones are always rubbered up!
Im the most unlucky owner
First I feel down some stairs with the phone in my back pocket = LCD display cracked
4 weeks later lost the phone out of a pocket while biking dropped on asphalt and smashed the corner of the fron/touch screen :-(
replaced both so I now know how to open a x10 and by the way got a very good offer on the front via ebay , original I think it was only 50 eur
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I have seen many damaged Iphones. My boss actually cracked his screen getting it out of his pocket, and that was the second screen he broke.
He states that it is like the screen is already flexed and if he applied even a small amount of extra flex it would crack.
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Im the most unlucky owner
First I feel down some stairs with the phone in my back pocket = LCD display cracked
4 weeks later lost the phone out of a pocket while biking dropped on asphalt and smashed the corner of the fron/touch screen :-(
replaced both so I now know how to open a x10 and by the way got a very good offer on the front via ebay , original I think it was only 50 eur
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Ha you ve made my day;-) i just wodered if there was any way to change the layer of the x10s screen. I had my x10 in my pocket together with a broken key . I think you can imagine what this did to.my x10 s screen . But hey its still morking. So this litle screenprotector is about 50€ is it easy to replace it?
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This is actually quite true. My friend had an iphone and he put it under his pillow. He rolled over it in his sleep to find the screen is shattered
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Here's a story for you that someone posted on another forum I use...
I went round to my mates earlier and as I got out of my car one of his naughbours was trying to start his motorbike so I offered to give him a push start.
As I was running along I felt something hit my knee, as I looked down I saw my X10 flying to the ground and right in front of the back wheel. Just at the time he released the clutch and the back wheel locked and well Im sure you can guess what happened.
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Hello everybody,
I am considering purchasing an S3 but i have a quite big question for witch i could not find an accurate answer on this forum. Is it true that the display of the I9300 is predisposed to cracks due to it's slightly curved shape? I have a friend that has a GSM service and he told me that most of the S3s that came to him for a repair had that kind of problem and he also said that i shouldn't buy this kind of phone.
Unfortunately I cannot afford the new S4 and the S3 felt pretty good in my hand when I had the chance to test is a bit. In general i take good care of my phones, but I am wondering, are there any chances of breaking the screen alt the slightest shock that the phone would receive?
I dropped mine a fair few times (on concrete) and its never broke, I have a flip front case on it and its still like new (I've had it for about 6 months now)
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elspanish88 said:
I dropped mine a fair few times (on concrete) and its never broke, I have a flip front case on it and its still like new (I've had it for about 6 months now)
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Thank you for your fast response. So your opinion is that I should buy one, right?
Haha its not up to me mate, I'm just saying the S3 is no more breakable then any other phone... I definitely don't regret buying my S3. But its still up to you.
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Another thing I want to ask. How is the GPS on the S3? I travel quite a lot and I use the GPS every time, but mine i9001 is simply rubbish as it takes about 7-8 minutes until it gets a lock, the signal is mostly weak and the error is somewhere between 60 and 100 meters and it gets disconnected from time to time. I tried custom ROMS, different GPS tweaks and apps that were supposed to make the GPS on my phone work properly but it was all in vane.
Did you had the chance to test the GPS on your phone? How does it behave?
BanditBora said:
Another thing I want to ask. How is the GPS on the S3? I travel quite a lot and I use the GPS every time, but mine i9001 is simply rubbish as it takes about 7-8 minutes until it gets a lock, the signal is mostly weak and the error is somewhere between 60 and 100 meters and it gets disconnected from time to time. I tried custom ROMS, different GPS tweaks and apps that were supposed to make the GPS on my phone work properly but it was all in vane.
Did you had the chance to test the GPS on your phone? How does it behave?
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If you're worried about it's toughness just get a solid case, plenty to chose from. I got a black UAG and it's an excelent compromise between tough, weight and style. That said, i don't think it was made for being able to stand much. Never dropped mine, even with the case but i don't think it would take the beating well.
About the gps it's realy good. Also had an i9000 and i definitly know where you're coming from but it's quite different with the S3. Locks really fast. As always, the very first time takes a while. From that point on it's golden. Few seconds and it's ready. Even faster than my proper ndrive gps device. Also doesn't break lock which was my real problem with the i9000. With slimrom, at this very moment, from inside a cafe near the window, mesured with GPS Test, i'm picking 9 / 10 sattelites with an accuracy of 10 - 12 meters.
kaynpayn said:
If you're worried about it's toughness just get a solid case, plenty to chose from. I got a black UAG and it's an excelent compromise between tough, weight and style. That said, i don't think it was made for being able to stand much. Never dropped mine, even with the case but i don't think it would take the beating well.
About the gps it's realy good. Also had an i9000 and i definitly know where you're coming from but it's quite different with the S3. Locks really fast. As always, the very first time takes a while. From that point on it's golden. Few seconds and it's ready. Even faster than my proper ndrive gps device. Also doesn't break lock which was my real problem with the i9000. With slimrom, at this very moment, from inside a cafe near the window, mesured with GPS Test, i'm picking 9 / 10 sattelites with an accuracy of 10 - 12 meters.
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ive got to agree I've dropped my s3 twice without its case on and all I have is a tiny scratch on the plastic back cover.
and i use gps all the time while out bike riding (often in no cell signal areas) and it is really fast at connecting and the only time it's ever disconnected was a trip to a toilet with a roof overhead.
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If you're worried about it's toughness just get a solid case, plenty to chose from. I got a black UAG and it's an excelent compromise between tough, weight and style. That said, i don't think it was made for being able to stand much. Never dropped mine, even with the case but i don't think it would take the beating well.
About the gps it's realy good. Also had an i9000 and i definitly know where you're coming from but it's quite different with the S3. Locks really fast. As always, the very first time takes a while. From that point on it's golden. Few seconds and it's ready. Even faster than my proper ndrive gps device. Also doesn't break lock which was my real problem with the i9000. With slimrom, at this very moment, from inside a cafe near the window, mesured with GPS Test, i'm picking 9 / 10 sattelites with an accuracy of 10 - 12 meters.
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As I mentioned in my first post in general I take good care of my phones. On my i9001 I have a Momax case like this http://forum.softpedia.com/uploads2/1c/anunturi_image_153850.jpg and I am very pleased with it as it protected my phone very well when I dropped it. Maybe I can find one for the S3 too.
Thank you all for your responses and advices. I hope that next week I'll be the owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. :fingers-crossed:
Chuck Norris has a S3 Thats how tough it is! - Seriously, i dropped a pint glass on mine! I put it on the worktop, went to get a glass = slipped glass from cupboard on to S3! the glass broke! S3 just laughed it off, not a scratch! ( I realise i was very lucky)
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As I mentioned in my first post in general I take good care of my phones. On my i9001 I have a Momax case like this http://forum.softpedia.com/uploads2/1c/anunturi_image_153850.jpg and I am very pleased with it as it protected my phone very well when I dropped it. Maybe I can find one for the S3 too.
Thank you all for your responses and advices. I hope that next week I'll be the owner of a new Samsung Galaxy S3. :fingers-crossed:
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Well, try to get the i9305 (the 4G one). The price difference shouldn't be significant, it's the same as the S3 except with 2Gb of ram (the s3 only has 1Gb). Makes a world of difference, trust me.
BanditBora said:
Hello everybody,
I am considering purchasing an S3 but i have a quite big question for witch i could not find an accurate answer on this forum. Is it true that the display of the I9300 is predisposed to cracks due to it's slightly curved shape? I have a friend that has a GSM service and he told me that most of the S3s that came to him for a repair had that kind of problem and he also said that i shouldn't buy this kind of phone.
Unfortunately I cannot afford the new S4 and the S3 felt pretty good in my hand when I had the chance to test is a bit. In general i take good care of my phones, but I am wondering, are there any chances of breaking the screen alt the slightest shock that the phone would receive?
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It's tough. But then again, if you take good enough care of your device, they're all tough.I'd say give it a try. Most carriers have an option, where you can try a new device for two weeks, and if you don't like it, you can send it back and get a new one. I'd do that. Personally, I've never had any mechanical problems with any of my Samsungs (M7600, Omnia 7, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S III) and I'm pretty happy much with them.
Depends on the luck of the bounce here is a two foot drop onto grass
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2 feet on to grass? Maybe you launched it from two feet onto grass. I'm gonna call BS. Had to be a stone or something in the grass. I've dropped mine from about 5'8" onto cobble stone like path way and all it got was a couple little spots where the pain chipped and plastic kinda "dented" or chipped. No scratches. Its pretty durable. Dropped mine about 6 times and I've had it since about a week after it came out. Not a screen crack or break. I don't use a case.
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It's tough. But then again, if you take good enough care of your device, they're all tough.I'd say give it a try. Most carriers have an option, where you can try a new device for two weeks, and if you don't like it, you can send it back and get a new one. I'd do that. Personally, I've never had any mechanical problems with any of my Samsungs (M7600, Omnia 7, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S III) and I'm pretty happy much with them.
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Unfortunately none of the carriers in Romania offer such a service.
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Well, try to get the i9305 (the 4G one). The price difference shouldn't be significant, it's the same as the S3 except with 2Gb of ram (the s3 only has 1Gb). Makes a world of difference, trust me.
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You are wright. The i9305 is only 30 euros more expensive than the original i9300. I'll wait a little more and save the extra 30 euros and I'll definitely get the i9305. Thanks for the tip.
I own an gs3 but they say that its not that well made.i mean i ve seen some drop tests and it didnt go very well compared to other phones.However it is the best buy i ve made so far ,so it is up to you.
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BanditBora said:
Hello everybody,
I am considering purchasing an S3 but i have a quite big question for witch i could not find an accurate answer on this forum. Is it true that the display of the I9300 is predisposed to cracks due to it's slightly curved shape? I have a friend that has a GSM service and he told me that most of the S3s that came to him for a repair had that kind of problem and he also said that i shouldn't buy this kind of phone.
Unfortunately I cannot afford the new S4 and the S3 felt pretty good in my hand when I had the chance to test is a bit. In general i take good care of my phones, but I am wondering, are there any chances of breaking the screen alt the slightest shock that the phone would receive?
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mine is on steroide so it very tough...
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I work in an environment where I have had the opportunity to talk with a representative from Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass is still glass. It is certainly more resistance to breakage and scratches than non GG, but tap it right at the wrong frequency, and it'll crack real well. My wife's phone was dropped by our 7 year old the 2nd day she had it. Hairline crack in two places.
I'm going to go slightly OT, but it's still relevant. IF you break your glass, the part that breaks is a cheap $10 part to replace. Only, replacing ONLY the glass is all but impossible. Don't ask me how I know. :angel: You're best off buying the full frame with the LCD, digitizer, and front glass pre installed. Then, just a gentle hand can replace the glass in about 10 minutes. I just bought such an assembly today for about $170 on eBay.
But the general sentiment here still holds true - unless you're buying a Rugby, the general toughness of the S3 is going to be generally the same as any other similar sized device.
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Unfortunately none of the carriers in Romania offer such a service.
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Wow. Seriously? Well.. that sucks ***k..
I'm on a contract with the German Telekom (T-Mobile (Before any Americans start bloating about how cr*p they are in America: They're the best Provider, here in Europe!)) and I've always had those chances. Maybe you should move
It seems I am one of the unlucky ones, who by accident break their phones while having it in the pocket. A week after I bought the Z Ultra, I discovered that the phone was bent, i.e. the corners were a couple of millimeters taller than the middle of the phone, which I decided to remedy by bending it back once in a while. But alas, it is broken now.
After looking at the picture, people are probably going to say, that its caused by bumping into something, but I can pretty much rule that out, as I always have the power button on the phone facing my important pants, which means that the screen is facing my left leg. If I bumped into something, then my important parts would hurt as well.
The big question is: are they going to fix it under warranty, or should I fix it myself?
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As you can see, the cracks starts beneath the power button, and moves across to where the speaker is. It looks very much like it couldnt handle the stress any more, on the corners?
You've probably bent the frame too much when having it your pants pocket, and it probably couldn't handle the stress at one point and snapped.
Will it be covered by your warranty? I doubt it. Don't you have some insurance?
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You've probably bent the frame too much when having it your pants pocket, and it probably couldn't handle the stress at one point and snapped.
Will it be covered by your warranty? I doubt it. Don't you have some insurance?
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Yeah, that sounds plausible.
I do have insurance, but I have to pay a deductible of 140€ / $193, or almost 1/5 of the price of a new Z Ultra.
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Yeah, that sounds plausible.
I do have insurance, but I have to pay a deductible of 140€ / $193, or almost 1/5 of the price of a new Z Ultra.
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Yeah, that sucks, but do you have any choice? You can either sell it as it is for a very low amount of cash, you can keep the screen cracked and hate your Ultra, or you can invest €140 into it and also get some money back if you're going to sell it down the road.
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It seems I am one of the unlucky ones, who by accident break their phones while having it in the pocket. A week after I bought the Z Ultra, I discovered that the phone was bent, i.e. the corners were a couple of millimeters taller than the middle of the phone, which I decided to remedy by bending it back once in a while. But alas, it is broken now.
After looking at the picture, people are probably going to say, that its caused by bumping into something, but I can pretty much rule that out, as I always have the power button on the phone facing my important pants, which means that the screen is facing my left leg. If I bumped into something, then my important parts would hurt as well.
The big question is: are they going to fix it under warranty, or should I fix it myself?
As you can see, the cracks starts beneath the power button, and moves across to where the speaker is. It looks very much like it couldnt handle the stress any more, on the corners?
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This happened to me a week ago. I was texting and I had just put it back in my pocket and it vibrated and I went to text the person back and it was cracked and I couldn't do anything. I called the lady that finally sent me a new phone for free the last time my phone broke. This time she told me that this is a problem with the phone and has been happening to many people and I should get it done for free. I hope she is right because I have sent my phone back but I have not heard from sony yet which is not surprising because I had to email the a bijillion times last time to even get a response about my phone that they couldn't fix due to a operating system problem. This has never happened to me with other phones. Don't get me wrong I love my phone and missed it dearly since i sent it back last monday breaking on sunday. I can not wait to get it back because using an old laggy s2 is not fun. Which I have had for 2 years and never had really bad problems with it. Only lags because the rom I use is horrible and cant flash another rom because my recovery doesn't work like it should. Back on topic. I have had this phone since november and it has broke twice. I will be mad if I have to pay anything since i got this new replacement one in december. I will pay what they want me to though but paying 680$ for a phone that breaks every month is not cool. For 680 I should get a phone that last a lifetime. I am considering selling my baby. But I really don't want to even though it breaks a lot. I love it either way. I will update you if I have to pay anything but for now it is in Texas where I sent my old phone back. Ill keep you update.
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This happened to me a week ago. I was texting and I had just put it back in my pocket and it vibrated and I went to text the person back and it was cracked and I couldn't do anything. I called the lady that finally sent me a new phone for free the last time my phone broke. This time she told me that this is a problem with the phone and has been happening to many people and I should get it done for free. I hope she is right because I have sent my phone back but I have not heard from sony yet which is not surprising because I had to email the a bijillion times last time to even get a response about my phone that they couldn't fix due to a operating system problem. This has never happened to me with other phones. Don't get me wrong I love my phone and missed it dearly since i sent it back last monday breaking on sunday. I can not wait to get it back because using an old laggy s2 is not fun. Which I have had for 2 years and never had really bad problems with it. Only lags because the rom I use is horrible and cant flash another rom because my recovery doesn't work like it should. Back on topic. I have had this phone since november and it has broke twice. I will be mad if I have to pay anything since i got this new replacement one in december. I will pay what they want me to though but paying 680$ for a phone that breaks every month is not cool. For 680 I should get a phone that last a lifetime. I am considering selling my baby. But I really don't want to even though it breaks a lot. I love it either way. I will update you if I have to pay anything but for now it is in Texas where I sent my old phone back. Ill keep you update.
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Im planning to buy a Z Ultra but these issues about suddenly cracking Z Ultra screens are keeping me away. What were you doing when it broke? Maybe you just didn't noticed that you put pressure on it.
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It seems I am one of the unlucky ones, who by accident break their phones while having it in the pocket. A week after I bought the Z Ultra, I discovered that the phone was bent, i.e. the corners were a couple of millimeters taller than the middle of the phone, which I decided to remedy by bending it back once in a while. But alas, it is broken now.
After looking at the picture, people are probably going to say, that its caused by bumping into something, but I can pretty much rule that out, as I always have the power button on the phone facing my important pants, which means that the screen is facing my left leg. If I bumped into something, then my important parts would hurt as well.
The big question is: are they going to fix it under warranty, or should I fix it myself?
As you can see, the cracks starts beneath the power button, and moves across to where the speaker is. It looks very much like it couldnt handle the stress any more, on the corners?
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If you bought it on a credit card with purchase protection, you might get your credit card company to get you a new one.
Sorry to hear that,mine replaced by sony service center for Hk2700 dollar(Front screen crack same as urs)
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rakista301 said:
Im planning to buy a Z Ultra but these issues about suddenly cracking Z Ultra screens are keeping me away. What were you doing when it broke? Maybe you just didn't noticed that you put pressure on it.
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Honestly I sold my z ultra after getting my replacement. I loved it but it broke way too much for the price.
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Honestly I sold my z ultra after getting my replacement. I loved it but it broke way too much for the price.
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I really dont know how you guys do it, I've had the ZU over 6 months dropped it a good few times onto concrete (with and without case), work in a dusty (and sticky) environment, have the ZU bounce around in a truck in 'off road' situations...
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I really dont know how you guys do it, I've had the ZU over 6 months dropped it a good few times onto concrete (with and without case), work in a dusty (and sticky) environment, have the ZU bounce around in a truck in 'off road' situations...
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Lol mine was in my pocket and the screen shattered. I loved it dont get me wrong but for 680 it better be indestructible.
Ok so i know people have started receiving there z2's. pics have been posted, videos linked etc. but i havent seen a z2 underwater yet. This is literally the first thing im gonna do...... if it does break id rather do it before setting it all up lol. So if you've dunked your z2 post pics/videos here.....
I dont wanna be the first one
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Ok so i know people have started receiving there z2's. pics have been posted, videos linked etc. but i havent seen a z2 underwater yet. This is literally the first thing im gonna do...... if it does break id rather do it before setting it all up lol. So if you've dunked your z2 post pics/videos here.....
I dont wanna be the first one
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I have just tried recording my phone being dunked in water, but as soon as it went in the water the camera closed, and as its just a jug of water im testing it in, my hands are too big to go in and turn the camera back on.
at least i know its water tight xD
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I have just tried recording my phone being dunked in water, but as soon as it went in the water the camera closed, and as its just a jug of water im testing it in, my hands are too big to go in and turn the camera back on.
at least i know its water tight xD
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I wont have issues fitting my hands in t turn camera back on..... it going in my mates fishtank lol
Just one little advise, if I may...
Don't sink your new Z2 into aquarium, especially not into aquarium with a sea water - your camera will be destroyed.. (not literally but it'll become unusable).
There's many Z1 users who reported bad things after such experiment.
Watter sometimes find passage and you got foggy lens (inside of device) you can't get nothing about it because you can't open it (you actually can but I wouldn't advise that)...
So...use waterproof for rain and accidentally water contact - I have my Z1 from the beginning and never tried to shoot pict in swimming pool... - I just don't trust them -
Z5 will, probably, have better technology/sealings.
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funky0308 said:
Just one little advise, if I may...
Don't sink your new Z2 into aquarium, especially not into aquarium with a sea water - your camera will be destroyed.. (not literally but it'll become unusable).
There's many Z1 users who reported bad things after such experiment.
Watter sometimes find passage and you got foggy lens (inside of device) you can't get nothing about it because you can't open it (you actually can but I wouldn't advise that)...
So...use waterproof for rain and accidentally water contact - I have my Z1 from the beginning and never tried to shoot pict in swimming pool... - I just don't trust them -
Z5 will, probably, have better technology/sealings.
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you know what mate, i dont trust it either lol, it aint going in saltwater and i am actually expecting it to break, if it develops a fault it will be going straight back but i shall skip both phones4u and vodafone and be sending it back to sony. What you mean use waterproof for the rain???? i use my galaxy note (not waterproof) if its raining and its fine..... Z2 is rated ip58, if water gets in anywhere on its first day out the box then its faulty, end of.
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Ok so i know people have started receiving there z2's. pics have been posted, videos linked etc. but i havent seen a z2 underwater yet. This is literally the first thing im gonna do...... if it does break id rather do it before setting it all up lol. So if you've dunked your z2 post pics/videos here.....
I dont wanna be the first one
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you know what mate, i dont trust it either lol, it aint going in saltwater and i am actually expecting it to break, if it develops a fault it will be going straight back but i shall skip both phones4u and vodafone and be sending it back to sony. What you mean use waterproof for the rain???? i use my galaxy note (not waterproof) if its raining and its fine..... Z2 is rated ip58, if water gets in anywhere on its first day out the box then its faulty, end of.
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Just make sure that you record yourself on another device to prove you didnt leave any of the flaps open
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Just make sure that you record yourself on another device to prove you didnt leave any of the flaps open
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i will be using my note to record the whole thing, plan on merging bits of it with the vid from z2 but will keep the vids as proof.
Exactly...they will tell you your flaps were opened
No, really...I'm cleaning my Z1 wuth water, I just put it in a sink and never had any problems...
I just don't believe it would stayed fully functional after underwater photoshooting
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Exactly...they will tell you your flaps were opened
No, really...I'm cleaning my Z1 wuth water, I just put it in a sink and never had any problems...
I just don't believe it would stayed fully functional after underwater photoshooting
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I have my doubts about it staying fully functional afterwards as well, but apparently it can be done and it will be fine..... so i just cant resist, they'll sure as hell know about it if it breaks tho, i'll complain to every damn person employed by sony, from the ceo to the janitor lol
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I have my doubts about it staying fully functional afterwards as well, but apparently it can be done and it will be fine..... so i just cant resist, they'll sure as hell know about it if it breaks tho, i'll complain to every damn person employed by sony, from the ceo to the janitor lol
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Haha...
Well I'm sure there are devices that were under the water and survive but when I pay 1000$ for something I try not to do experiments with it...
I saw only few underwater pictures (Z/Z1) so I guess I'm not the only one who thinks like that...
But I totally understand you and if device, like Z1/Z2 have so many sealings/protection rubbers it should bear up some torture
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Haha...
Well I'm sure there are devices that were under the water and survive but when I pay 1000$ for something I try not to do experiments with it...
I saw only few underwater pictures (Z/Z1) so I guess I'm not the only one who thinks like that...
But I totally understand you and if device, like Z1/Z2 have so many sealings/protection rubbers it should bear up some torture
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lol im kinda the opposite, when i spend that much on something i wanna know that it does what it claims, to be honest i will probably never use the phone underwater again, but at least i'll worry less when im playing on my phone in the bath
I have a waterproof camera and a Nokia 1020. Nokia is great when on holiday and not wet, but wet days at the beach or pool were nerve racking as I always had to keep an eye on my phone with the towels and my camera never was as good at taking pics. Few weeks ago I got a Z1 Compact for wet days. Tested it at home for water proofing and all good. Great camera. Just need to set the volume button as the shutter for underwater pics as screen is unresponsive and camera button hard to use. Even took it to the waterpark with no issues.
Only problem was the screen felt too small so I got the Z2 thinking I'd give the Z1C to the wife. Got it yesterday and loved it. Based on good experience with the Z1C, I just expected waterproofing to be as reliable. After setting it up, I finally had a chance to test it by dipping into a pitcher of water and tested the camera. Camera button so much better than Z1 and all seemed to work. Suddenly I see bubbles, camera shuts off, flap warning pops up (flaps were completely closed) and phone dies. Took it out immediately and water is running out of microphone holes at bottom and apparently from around the frame. What a let down! Just hoping Sony or vendor are cool about a replacement. Had it all of 2 days. Got wet in 15 cm water and died although all flaps completely closed.
Still, compared to Z1 Compact, the body stiffness and frame flush with the glass feel far more flimsy on the Z2. Now that its got water in it, I can almost squeeze it and water seems to leak from around the aluminum frame. Contemplating sticking with the Z1 Compact for a year until tech improves if I can get my money back. Otherwise might try the SGS5. Really bummed as I loved the Z2, but I don't need just another smartphone, I need one that has a good camera and can survive the pool.
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I have a waterproof camera and a Nokia 1020. Nokia is great when on holiday and not wet, but wet days at the beach or pool were nerve racking as I always had to keep an eye on my phone with the towels and my camera never was as good at taking pics. Few weeks ago I got a Z1 Compact for wet days. Tested it at home for water proofing and all good. Great camera. Just need to set the volume button as the shutter for underwater pics as screen is unresponsive and camera button hard to use. Even took it to the waterpark with no issues.
Only problem was the screen felt too small so I got the Z2 thinking I'd give the Z1C to the wife. Got it yesterday and loved it. Based on good experience with the Z1C, I just expected waterproofing to be as reliable. After setting it up, I finally had a chance to test it by dipping into a pitcher of water and tested the camera. Camera button so much better than Z1 and all seemed to work. Suddenly I see bubbles, camera shuts off, flap warning pops up (flaps were completely closed) and phone dies. Took it out immediately and water is running out of microphone holes at bottom and apparently from around the frame. What a let down! Just hoping Sony or vendor are cool about a replacement. Had it all of 2 days. Got wet in 15 cm water and died although all flaps completely closed.
Still, compared to Z1 Compact, the body stiffness and frame flush with the glass feel far more flimsy on the Z2. Now that its got water in it, I can almost squeeze it and water seems to leak from around the aluminum frame. Contemplating sticking with the Z1 Compact for a year until tech improves if I can get my money back. Otherwise might try the SGS5. Really bummed as I loved the Z2, but I don't need just another smartphone, I need one that has a good camera and can survive the pool.
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Lol, no need to panick, you obviousy got a defective phone, z2 is just as if not more water resistant as previous phones.
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Personally I can't understand why some are so eager to dunk it in water just to test the water proofing, I mean if you have a crash proof car you ain't gonna crash it into a wall to test it.
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Personally I can't understand why some are so eager to dunk it in water just to test the water proofing, I mean if you have a crash proof car you ain't gonna crash it into a wall to test it.
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Well, if you buy the phone to be able to use it in the water, it's better to test it out before you're in a situation where you need the phone and it just dies on you. Of course, if you never intend to get the thing wet, obviously you have no need to test this feature.
Me and @waynekirby made a little video with both our z2's video is taken with Xperia T
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2AA5trpmJBVR0FrcVhnMTBFSWs/edit?usp=docslist_api
Excuse my language
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BanziBaby said:
Personally I can't understand why some are so eager to dunk it in water just to test the water proofing, I mean if you have a crash proof car you ain't gonna crash it into a wall to test it.
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Actually im not normal...... if i bought a car that was advertised as not crumpling in a collision, yes i most definately would drive it into a brick wall (not too fast tho, im assuming id still be able to be catapulted through the windscreen lol)
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Actually im not normal...... if i bought a car that was advertised as not crumpling in a collision, yes i most definately would drive it into a brick wall (not too fast tho, im assuming id still be able to be catapulted through the windscreen lol)
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haha, as would i my kamikaze brother..
Well, it got it's first water test today, and . . . well it passed!
I was on the golf course using the phone as a golf GPS when it threw it down and everything got drenched. The phone has survived, but was more or less unusable when the screen was wet. Several rain drops seemed to act as finger presses, launching random programs, which was quite annoying as I had to keep drying the phone to get back to the GPS screen. But I suppose the main thing was that the phone survived the deluge
Video of Z2 diving into a lake
Here's my Z2 taking a dive into a Lake for a few seconds.
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I'm thinking about buying a Z5 Compact, but when reading about all the cases, where the glass on the front or the rear have cracked, on the Z1 Compact and Z3 Compact, I'm not so sure anymore.
What is the situation like with the Z5C vs Z3C/Z1C regarding the glass being prone to crack?
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I'm in the same situation myself.
However, I doubt we will be able to get feedback regarding this already. The "cracked glass" cases on the Z3C appeared IIRC only some time (months) after the release. Personally I plan to try to resist the urge to buy for 2-3 months and then check if there are any reports.
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I'm in the same situation myself.
However, I doubt we will be able to get feedback regarding this already. The "cracked glass" cases on the Z3C appeared IIRC only some time (months) after the release. Personally I plan to try to resist the urge to buy for 2-3 months and then check if there are any reports.
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Just that. I'd wait a few months for a new batch, then you should be fine.
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Never had any problem with my z3c's glass and everything on the z5c seems good.
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Never had any problem with my z3c's glass and everything on the z5c seems good.
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That's exactly what I said about my z3 compact for 9 months, feeling smugly sorry for all the people reporting cracked glass, until it cracked in my hand. On the other hand, that was the best reason to buy a z5 compact. Silly me.
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Does it have a gorilla glass? I have searched around but not being able to get confirmation.
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Does it have a gorilla glass? I have searched around but not being able to get confirmation.
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It's been discussed in many other places and the consensus is that it doesn't have gorilla. Apparently, the producer for Sony tempered glass panels is unknown.
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It's been discussed in many other places and the consensus is that it doesn't have gorilla. Apparently, the producer for Sony tempered glass panels is unknown.
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thanks
Bumping this up a bit..
Didnt want to open a new thread seeing as how this one is still here.
I'm on the edge of purchasing this phone but the spontaneous cracking glass issue and low durability of its predecessor (Z3C) are bugging me..
Was wondering if there are perhaps some more updated impressions regarding this.
Thanks.
I had z1c then z3c, my girlfriend, my sister and brother in law all still have the z3c.
All glass backs.
No cracks on any of these devices.
Other then when literally throwing the phone to ground by accident the front digitiser cracked (back was intact.)
Easy replacement as new chassis with inbuilt digi and screen was like £60 and very simple to replace the housing.
The spontaneous glass crack is hoopla if you take my consolidated multi user experience.
Don't let this phase your decision.
Also bear in mind the glass back plate believe it or not is the simplest thing to replace takes 2mins with a heatgun (again first hand experience.)
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I had z1c then z3c, my girlfriend, my sister and brother in law all still have the z3c.
All glass backs.
No cracks on any of these devices.
Other then when literally throwing the phone to ground by accident the front digitiser cracked (back was intact.)
Easy replacement as new chassis with inbuilt digi and screen was like £60 and very simple to replace the housing.
The spontaneous glass crack is hoopla if you take my consolidated multi user experience.
Don't let this phase your decision.
Also bear in mind the glass back plate believe it or not is the simplest thing to replace takes 2mins with a heatgun (again first hand experience.)
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It's hoopla until it happens to you.
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I'd be interested to hear more on the replacement procedure. Are there detailed instructions? If it isnt majorly expensive then it's not THAT big of a deal.
I see many cases on the market but no one ever actually tests the case to see how effective it is. Who is willing to drop their phone several times and see if their case works I remember seeing a review of iphone bumpers where they actually did drop several phones and only the really thick ones (like 0.5cm wide) actually protected the phone. Glass typically breaks from an edge hit. Does the glass go all the way to the edge, or is there a border around it? What is the boarder made of and how much energy can it really absorb. Now intuitively, I'd assume that the "compact" phone would be more resilient to cracks due to its size.
My last phone, I had a protector, but my current phone doesnt have one. I've never broken a screen, though I've cracked the casing. Both were gorilla glass. But I have no idea if that is just dumb luck.
I had a Z3, in a high quality case, the back cracked by itself. I was having issues with the speaker being quiet but was told the warranty was void due to the hairline crack in the back. Then a while later I dropped it but I caught it on my foot before it hit the ground so it was a very minor fall, but it was enough to crack the screen, a very thin hairline crack but still a crack, this stopped the screen from working so I was stuck without a phone. I got it replaced, and the back while I was at it, cost me $300 (AUD) to fix. The day I got the phone back, I was sat down at a table, wrote a message to my wife put the phone back in my jacket pocket, she text back so I pulled the phone out to check the message and there was a big crack across the screen. I did not drop it at all! Again the screen would not work. I didnt want to pay another $300 to fix the phone as they said the crack was due to stress (bull), so I bought a s6 galaxy, even though my Z3 was only 4 months old! Because the screen would not work with the crack in it, I could not get any of my data off the phone, when I plugged it into the PC I needed to unlock the phone but couldn't because the screen did not work, was very frustrated! Never buying a Sony again until they can confirm they have fixed this issue. The phone was too thin and flexed easily, my galaxy is thin but feels much more solid.
I have had a Z5C for a couple of months now. I spend a lot of time outdoors and am generally a bit rough with tech. I have dropped my phone from about a metre up a couple of times by accident already - knocked off tables etc. and have not suffered any ill effects yet.
Have dropped my phone SEVERAL times but still, screen takes it like a champ. Really durable phone if you ask me
I'm gentle with my phones, and even had a gel case on mine and yet the back seems to have cracked somehow without even a drop. The worst part is that I imported mine (don't sell them in Canada), so I can't get it fixed. I bought a skin from dbrand instead, and you can't even tell it's shattered any more.
Another user of z3c here , i can also confirm the glass problem is definitely a problem with z3c , dropped from 2 feet and back glass shattered , then drop from car seat on to the drive and cracked front from corner to corner disabling digitizer so now im using my phone with an otg mouse.
Im in the market for a new phone, but there is nothing except the z5c with a top spec that isn't stupidly big 5" + , i just tried a 5" asus phone very nice but just far too big for a phone, its not meant to be a bloody computer , its a phone, cant wait until they start becoming a bit more realistic again.
So i have looked at z5 , but i see exactly the same thread on the sony forums that was going for months if not years regarding z3 screen , and sony are still not taking responsibility and it looks like the design is still the same for z5c , such a shame as the phone is perfect in every way other than this defect (and some of the crap software add ons, but that's manageable)
Any other recommendations ?, it seems like i will be forced to buy an older gen phone , or a low end thing like moto E , why the hell did they make motog screen bigger after the first edition , ruined it as that was almost perfect too. I am considering a wileyfox , im just hoping some of these 5" ers have a minimal bezzal around the screen , the asus had a pretty big one it looked a like a plate , and that was their smallest one - how things have changed since the 8210 - at least i will save money if i buy a lower spec phone, but i'm a tech enthusiast and i want the best always have, they are turning away my money , there is nothing usable worth buying .
Back to the original topic , z5c , i just cant risk the money on it if it has such a fundamental floor , its an expensive phone compared to most other 4.5,6,7,8" phones that are usually around 100-150 , money isnt really the object though for the right phone i would pay. I have never had a phone screen crack before , and my z3 sees less action than any of my others as i work from home now and spend a lot more time in the house with my baby daughter, the htc phones are good , i lost count of the amount of times i dropped my desire HD hard , and when it was replaced by moto g it go even more brutal treatment as a second phone i kicked it down the road pissed and threw it against the wall several times, dropped down stairs and out of my pocket while riding a bike quickly , marks to the metal body but the screen was indestructible , i managed to break the moto g screen but i had fixed as i convinced them it was ridiculous that it broke failing off a sofa onto carpet but my replacement was fine , i had a painful time trying to do the same with sony though and with the endless complaints online, its obviously an inherent fault , im just appalled the z5c hasn't changed this.
This maybe a slightly unfocused rant , but i'm sure there are others that share my view , big spenders in the mobile sector have just been abandoned , someone needs to fill the gap in the market.
My partner also has the same issue , but is currently using a one mini 2 , which is very nice , but now slightly dated and HTC only went and cancelled all the updates , it didn't even get lollipop , why , it was the best phone they did by miles, and on top of that , they cancelled the mini3 , ultimate face palm
Where do i go chinese market ?
the blackberry blackphone is 4.7" , but i fear this is **** as it uses blackbery os, and i believe it has the other showstopping problem that the asus has , in that the processors architecture makes it incompatible with many apps, such as the only that is critical to me , the banking app with barclays.
Such a struggle, am i off to the chinese market? , i have no ****ing clue.
solowkey said:
Another user of z3c here , i can also confirm the glass problem is definitely a problem with z3c , dropped from 2 feet and back glass shattered , then drop from car seat on to the drive and cracked front from corner to corner disabling digitizer so now im using my phone with an otg mouse.
Im in the market for a new phone, but there is nothing except the z5c with a top spec that isn't stupidly big 5" + , i just tried a 5" asus phone very nice but just far too big for a phone, its not meant to be a bloody computer , its a phone, cant wait until they start becoming a bit more realistic again.
So i have looked at z5 , but i see exactly the same thread on the sony forums that was going for months if not years regarding z3 screen , and sony are still not taking responsibility and it looks like the design is still the same for z5c , such a shame as the phone is perfect in every way other than this defect (and some of the crap software add ons, but that's manageable)
Any other recommendations ?, it seems like i will be forced to buy an older gen phone , or a low end thing like moto E , why the hell did they make motog screen bigger after the first edition , ruined it as that was almost perfect too. I am considering a wileyfox , im just hoping some of these 5" ers have a minimal bezzal around the screen , the asus had a pretty big one it looked a like a plate , and that was their smallest one - how things have changed since the 8210 - at least i will save money if i buy a lower spec phone, but i'm a tech enthusiast and i want the best always have, they are turning away my money , there is nothing usable worth buying .
Back to the original topic , z5c , i just cant risk the money on it if it has such a fundamental floor , its an expensive phone compared to most other 4.5,6,7,8" phones that are usually around 100-150 , money isnt really the object though for the right phone i would pay. I have never had a phone screen crack before , and my z3 sees less action than any of my others as i work from home now and spend a lot more time in the house with my baby daughter, the htc phones are good , i lost count of the amount of times i dropped my desire HD hard , and when it was replaced by moto g it go even more brutal treatment as a second phone i kicked it down the road pissed and threw it against the wall several times, dropped down stairs and out of my pocket while riding a bike quickly , marks to the metal body but the screen was indestructible , i managed to break the moto g screen but i had fixed as i convinced them it was ridiculous that it broke failing off a sofa onto carpet but my replacement was fine , i had a painful time trying to do the same with sony though and with the endless complaints online, its obviously an inherent fault , im just appalled the z5c hasn't changed this.
This maybe a slightly unfocused rant , but i'm sure there are others that share my view , big spenders in the mobile sector have just been abandoned , someone needs to fill the gap in the market.
My partner also has the same issue , but is currently using a one mini 2 , which is very nice , but now slightly dated and HTC only went and cancelled all the updates , it didn't even get lollipop , why , it was the best phone they did by miles, and on top of that , they cancelled the mini3 , ultimate face palm
Where do i go chinese market ?
the blackberry blackphone is 4.7" , but i fear this is **** as it uses blackbery os, and i believe it has the other showstopping problem that the asus has , in that the processors architecture makes it incompatible with many apps, such as the only that is critical to me , the banking app with barclays.
Such a struggle, am i off to the chinese market? , i have no ****ing clue.
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I'm with you on the needing a small phone thing. I'd check out Samsung's lineup. a3, a5, s4 mini, alpha, s5 mini. There's something for almost everyone. I was curious if the z1c and z3c but they always had there drawbacks, z5c I took the shot and ain't liking it.
If you dot care about expandable memory or user replaceable batteries there's a few other options as well.
Sadly , i ****ing hate the ugly samsung software, but i did seriously look at the a series, whilst thinking wtf , how am i being forced to consider a low end phone when tech is my number one interest and about the only thing i warrant spending lots of money on, i will end up saving money at this rate - i am looking at the oneplus x now, as it seems to have a bit smaller outer dimensions , and still a decent spec but of course it's 5" too
trouble is i ran into this page recently https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/820 , and now i need to have that processor in my next phone.
I think i will grab a wiley swift for now, only £130 to get me by , and even £20 cash back from manufacturer now , its not high spec i know , but im desperate for something now, and no way am i giving these 'leading' manufacturers money to encourage the ridiculous types of phones they are churning out by the bucket now, they are ****ing house phones not something to carry around with you, i could imagine them wall mounted , but Gzus i see some people carrying these things and it looks like they are going into battle with the 'visionaries' .....
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Id try a z5c if it was about 1/2 the price and i didnt have a z3c already, for now i might just fix myz3c and put it inside a cage , it will still be smaller than these 5" devices - what did you find wrong with it though ?
I've owned a Z1C and now a Z5C and never had cracking issues on either. Don't drop your phone, it won't crack. If you're prone to dropping your phone, always get a case, because it's stupid to risk that much money on being clumsy.