[Q] question about the gs4 - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

I have the note 3 now, and I'm really disapointed in it. I'm running 4.3 now and will be doing so until I get rid of it, which will be soon. Anyway, I'm going to get the gs4, and I'm a flashaholic, so my question is, if the gs4 I'm getting doesn't have the MDK baseband I'm basically screwed? I have to stick with safestrap for recovery? I change roms like changing socks. Having a locked bootloader on my note 3 sucks, big time. Anyway, thanks guys.

wily5150 said:
I have the note 3 now, and I'm really disapointed in it. I'm running 4.3 now and will be doing so until I get rid of it, which will be soon. Anyway, I'm going to get the gs4, and I'm a flashaholic, so my question is, if the gs4 I'm getting doesn't have the MDK baseband I'm basically screwed? I have to stick with safestrap for recovery? I change roms like changing socks. Having a locked bootloader on my note 3 sucks, big time. Anyway, thanks guys.
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Yea unless you get an MDK or Dev Edition S4 you're going to be in the same boat pretty much as the Note 3.
Check on Swappa
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Mistertac said:
Yea unless you get an MDK or Dev Edition S4 you're going to be in the same boat pretty much as the Note 3.
Check on Swappa
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what exactly is the dev edition? The phone I'm looking at has MK2 for the baseband. Thanks for the help

wily5150 said:
what exactly is the dev edition?
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Its the same as every other Verizon S4 except its bootloader is unlocked. Truly unlocked and doesn't need Loki like the MDK ones do.
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Mistertac said:
Its the same as every other Verizon S4 except its bootloader is unlocked. Truly unlocked and doesn't need Loki like the MDK ones do.
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so this is a good phone? Thnaks again. I don't want to make the same mistake I made with my note 3

wily5150 said:
so this is a good phone? Thnaks again. I don't want to make the same mistake I made with my note 3
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I love my S4. I actually got an MDK one off Swappa myself. I needed a custom recovery and ability to run AOSP ROMs.
And with more unified JFLTE builds coming out lately there are plenty of ROMs to flash. I like the Note 3 myself just it never came with a bootloader vulnerability like the S4 did.
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Mistertac said:
I love my S4. I actually got an MDK one off Swappa myself. I needed a custom recovery and ability to run AOSP ROMs.
And with more unified JFLTE builds coming out lately there are plenty of ROMs to flash. I like the Note 3 myself just it never came with a bootloader vulnerability like the S4 did.
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so, is the MK2 baseband a good phone?

wily5150 said:
so, is the MK2 baseband a good phone?
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Yea MK2 is still good, just if you're wanting to run any custom ROMs your going to be limited to Touchwiz ROMs only via SafeStrap recovery. Only the MDK build is able to run ROMs like CM . they're devs working on kexec support for SafeStrap so that custom kernel/ROMs can be ran.
The issue with all the builds after MDK is that the security was tightened up with each build. I'll get you a good link that explains a lot of these things...
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Here check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
There's even more useful info linked from there as well
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Also there are some great videos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337590
Showing how to do different things on the S4 . not sure how versed you are in all this so if its of no use to you my bad.. just figured I'd share
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Mistertac said:
Yea MK2 is still good, just if you're wanting to run any custom ROMs your going to be limited to Touchwiz ROMs only via SafeStrap recovery. Only the MDK build is able to run ROMs like CM . they're devs working on kexec support for SafeStrap so that custom kernel/ROMs can be ran.
The issue with all the builds after MDK is that the security was tightened up with each build. I'll get you a good link that explains a lot of these things...
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Here check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
There's even more useful info linked from there as well
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[/COLOR]Also there are some great videos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337590
Showing how to do different things on the S4 . not sure how versed you are in all this so if its of no use to you my bad.. just figured I'd share
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So far I'm not happy, but at least I wont make the same mistake. So, is the MDK just an unlocked phone? What I'm try to get at is what do I look for when looking for a gs4? I got on swappa, good place to find a phone. Thanks for the help so far. I'm almost done here. Thanks for your time

wily5150 said:
So far I'm not happy, but at least I wont make the same mistake. So, is the MDK just an unlocked phone? What I'm try to get at is what do I look for when looking for a gs4? I got on swappa, good place to find a phone. Thanks for the help so far. I'm almost done here. Thanks for your time
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MDK allowed for the Loki exploit which long story short... allows for your custom recovery and custom kernels/ROMs .
The bootloader isn't truly unlocked like on a Sprint or TMobile S4 but essentially Loki gets you the same end result .
Good luck! I'm sure you'll be able to find one on Swappa and they're cheaper now that the S5 is out.
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[MOD] Call/Message Block

Call/Message Block - ported to our Verizon MDK/ME7 base applications.
Modified Files:
SecMms.apk - com/android/mms/MmsConfig.smali
feature.xml - system/csc/feature.xml
Download:
MDK:
http://d-h.st/LQJ
Download:
ME7:
http://d-h.st/GXt
DEVs, feel free to use this MOD, just please rate the thread 5 stars, hit the thanks button, and give proper credit, please.
Saved.
Links are ready.
Not that I need either of the new modes posted. (since I'm running bonestock) I just wanted to let u know it's very muck appreciated
5 stars
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Does blocking mode include this or due they need to be flashed together?
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jdub251 said:
Does blocking mode include this or due they need to be flashed together?
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google blocking mode
http://www.twelveskip.com/tutorials...xy-s3-what-is-blocking-mode-and-how-to-use-it
then
flash this
u will see the differences
Nice flashing this too
LOL @ the punk jealous who keeps down rating my thread.
I am not calling out any one in particular, but please... grow up..
If we flash the wrong file will it f up some $hit?
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holla420 said:
If we flash the wrong file will it f up some $hit?
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the wrong file?
I don't see how that could happen..
if you are on MDK - flash the MDK
if on ME7 - flash ME7
but if you were to say be on ME7 and flash MDK , it's just a secmms.apk, so you'd be good to just reboot back to recovery and flash the correct base.
andybones said:
the wrong file?
I don't see how that could happen..
if you are on MDK - flash the MDK
if on ME7 - flash ME7
but if you were to say be on ME7 and flash MDK , it's just a secmms.apk, so you'd be good to just reboot back to recovery and flash the correct base.
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Kool good looking thats wat I needed to kno
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holla420 said:
Kool good looking thats wat I needed to kno
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awesome!
hope you guys enjoy this as much as I do!
To the person down rating my threads.
Could you please PM me so we can try and resolve w.e issue it is that we have, like adults.
It will be kept 100% between us.
hey guys also, you can use both Blocking Mode and Call/Message block together. It's how the phone was suppose to come but Verizon removed them prob cus they want u to go to their site to block ppl, so flash em both and see if you like them.
Flashed both Blocking Mode and Call/Message Block... works great! Thx a bunch!
Does it matter tw or aosp?
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mrtruckincowboy said:
Does it matter tw or aosp?
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Touch wiz only.
Andy, could u add multi windows for this like on the noteII for mdk
I know your busy.
And you don't like mdk.
Trying to help out a friend thanks
Much appreciated
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This might be a stupid question but...what will happen if I flash this on a themed TW ROM?
r_hippy said:
Andy, could u add multi windows for this like on the noteII for mdk
I know your busy.
And you don't like mdk.
Trying to help out a friend thanks
Much appreciated
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what the heck are you talking about??
multi windows?
what?lol
wrong thread?
loldi said:
This might be a stupid question but...what will happen if I flash this on a themed TW ROM?
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you will loose theme on messaging..

Has anyone had the htc one and the s4?

So I got the s4 a week ago and so far it's been alright but I'm kind of questioning if I should switch to the htc one? The s4 seems too bogged down with touchwiz and has good specs but it seems like they don't run extremely well ex. the camera seems great if I'm not moving at all and if I have good lighting but otherwise doesn't seem to do too well. Additionally I made the stupid mistake of updating to the locked bootloader when I got my s4 so I can't load a custom rom to get rid of the weight of touchwiz and things of that nature. I'm not trying to hate on the s4, I'm just picky and that's been my experience so far. I'm mainly looking for responses from people who have had both phones but I do like any input you can offer.
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So I got the s4 a week ago and so far it's been alright but I'm kind of questioning if I should switch to the htc one? The s4 seems too bogged down with touchwiz and has good specs but it seems like they don't run extremely well ex. the camera seems great if I'm not moving at all and if I have good lighting but otherwise doesn't seem to do too well. Additionally I made the stupid mistake of updating to the locked bootloader when I got my s4 so I can't load a custom rom to get rid of the weight of touchwiz and things of that nature. I'm not trying to hate on the s4, I'm just picky and that's been my experience so far. I'm mainly looking for responses from people who have had both phones but I do like any input you can offer.
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There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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richii0207 said:
There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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Oh well then I guess I mean that whatever exploit there was was patched or something...
richii0207 said:
There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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Also....you CAN root and get rid of or freeze bloatware.
I feel you. The one is a great phone but if rooting and ROMing is your thing the one isn't a good alternative... I'd wait the full fourteen days and see what happens with the x or the one. The s4 is by no means a shabby phone though
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If your still considering staying with the S4...
riker147 said:
Also....you CAN root and get rid of or freeze bloatware.
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Here are the mods/steps I used while on ME7. I have absolutely nothing to do with development of the following.
ME7 root method credit: open1your1eyes0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Remove bloatware credit: DarkMenace [/I]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313529&highlight=block+system+update&page=44
ME7 Mods credit: imablackhat http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44353826
If you are still on ME7 then the Safestrap Recovery thread is where you will find some motivation to keep the ME7 S4 credit: Hashcode http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428226
Just in case, method I used to revert back to stock on ME7
credit: joderme for development and invisible for hosting the file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357235
brycekerr said:
I feel you. The one is a great phone but if rooting and ROMing is your thing the one isn't a good alternative... I'd wait the full fourteen days and see what happens with the x or the one. The s4 is by no means a shabby phone though
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No I cant comment on personal experience with the HTC One but I can in regards to a ME7 S4. I do agree with the previous comment by brycekerr stating that the S4 is by no means a shabby phone. There's a lotta talk about the S4 not being significant enough of an upgrade from the S3...I disagree. I sliced and diced my S3 for a year and loved every second on of it but as kick ass as my S3 was my S4 is much snappier...
Isn't the HTC One locked even worse then the ME7 update? Like no root etc?
richii0207 said:
There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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Jeez you know what he meant
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fatmando2 said:
So I got the s4 a week ago and so far it's been alright but I'm kind of questioning if I should switch to the htc one? The s4 seems too bogged down with touchwiz and has good specs but it seems like they don't run extremely well ex. the camera seems great if I'm not moving at all and if I have good lighting but otherwise doesn't seem to do too well. Additionally I made the stupid mistake of updating to the locked bootloader when I got my s4 so I can't load a custom rom to get rid of the weight of touchwiz and things of that nature. I'm not trying to hate on the s4, I'm just picky and that's been my experience so far. I'm mainly looking for responses from people who have had both phones but I do like any input you can offer.
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I agree for the most part, while the phone is snappier than my S3, TW does feel "heavier" than it did on the S3. Additionally, I am extremely disappointed in the camera and I find it tough to get good pictures, to the extent that I don't use it as often as I did on the S3. I can't comment on the One, but prior to the update that locked it up tighter than the S4 I was considering trading for one. Now I guess I'll just stick with the S4 and try to find ways to improve camera performance.
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MDK or ME7?
mlin said:
I agree for the most part, while the phone is snappier than my S3, TW does feel "heavier" than it did on the S3. Additionally, I am extremely disappointed in the camera and I find it tough to get good pictures, to the extent that I don't use it as often as I did on the S3. I can't comment on the One, but prior to the update that locked it up tighter than the S4 I was considering trading for one. Now I guess I'll just stick with the S4 and try to find ways to improve camera performance.
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mlin...you on MDK or ME7?
ups2525 said:
mlin...you on MDK or ME7?
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I'm on an ME7 build.
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mlin said:
I'm on an ME7 build.
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You think you could extract a camera apk from a TouchWiz ROM, for example Hyperdrive cause there's more than one camera in the zip, and drop it in as either a system or user apk?
Looks like this has been answered..if not, please go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406733

MDK users

I'm just curious, how many users are on MDK.
I'm one of them ? .i don't know if there are more on MDK than MK2..
MDK here
android-incredible said:
I'm just curious, how many users are on MDK.
I'm one of them ? .i don't know if there are more on MDK than MK2..
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I've wondered the same from time to time but looking at the MDK based Rom threads it seems like they're is still quite a few of us.
Though I'm sure we're the minority
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Mistertac said:
I've wondered the same from time to time but looking at the MDK based Rom threads it seems like they're is still quite a few of us.
Though I'm sure we're the minority
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MDK (Dev Edition) here. I agree with Mistertac, we're probably in the minority though.
Mdk here
I think I'm MDK or at one time was MDK. I can flash aosp roms but the baseband version listed in my phone is MI1, so which am I?
o-o said:
I think I'm MDK or at one time was MDK. I can flash aosp roms but the baseband version listed in my phone is MI1, so which am I?
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Baseband is your modem.
If you can flash any AOSP ROMs you're on MDK
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Awesome, thanks!
MDK
I was mdk, but had to flash a TW based rom to flash to page plus. only way to get to diag mode. whole reason I paid extra hundred bucks for unlocked bootloader be now upon flashing an aosp rom I get pop up saying it has kernel issue non samsung blah blah and have to reboot into recovery and restore touch crap :/..... any ideas guys!? I want my aosp goodness
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moparfreak426 said:
I was mdk, but had to flash a TW based rom to flash to page plus. only way to get to diag mode. whole reason I paid extra hundred bucks for unlocked bootloader be now upon flashing an aosp rom I get pop up saying it has kernel issue non samsung blah blah and have to reboot into recovery and restore touch crap :/..... any ideas guys!? I want my aosp goodness
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Well if it was any other build than MDK stock firmware you're unfortunately out of luck. How are you flashing ROMs now? What recovery?
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Mistertac said:
Well if it was any other build than MDK stock firmware you're unfortunately out of luck. How are you flashing ROMs now? What recovery?
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It was rls15 hyperdrive, supposed to be knox and not lock bootloader or anything. And trying to to use philz. I want my aosp.... with working data! :*( screw samsung and their locking everything now
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moparfreak426 said:
It was rls15 hyperdrive, supposed to be knox and not lock bootloader or anything. And trying to to use philz. I want my aosp.... with working data! :*( screw samsung and their locking everything now
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Well I'm not 100% on flashing a phone to page plus. All I can say is maybe update your recovery to Philz latest and look for a rom that allows you to put Page Plus apns in. But if you're using Philz.. you're still on MDK and I'd have to guess someone here can show you how to get it going.
Also sounds like the kernel your trying to run isn't Loki'd. So look into that.
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Open up a Q&A thread. . I'm sure someone can help better than I can
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Mistertac said:
Well I'm not 100% on flashing a phone to page plus. All I can say is maybe update your recovery to Philz latest and look for a rom that allows you to put Page Plus apns in. But if you're using Philz.. you're still on MDK and I'd have to guess someone here can show you how to get it going.
Also sounds like the kernel your trying to run isn't Loki'd. So look into that.
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I'm new to the s4 but not new to flashing roms, flashing to different carriers etc.... I figured all aosp roms had to be loki'd?..... Or else they wouldn't work to begin with? and to modify apns for different carriers, it's as simple as file explorer,find system/etc/apns-conf.xml and modify or replace that.
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moparfreak426 said:
I'm new to the s4 but not new to flashing roms, flashing to different carriers etc.... I figured all aosp roms had to be loki'd?..... Or else they wouldn't work to begin with? and to modify apns for different carriers, it's as simple as file explorer,find system/etc/apns-conf.xml and modify or replace that.
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Yea well you have more experience than I do in that department lol only Verizon and ATT S4's use Loki. Philz latest has auto Loki... Maybe update that and see where it takes you.
If you flash say a TMobile S4 rom onto your phone without Lokifying it...it won't work.
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Mistertac said:
Yea well you have more experience than I do in that department lol only Verizon and ATT S4's use Loki. Philz latest has auto Loki... Maybe update that and see where it takes you.
If you flash say a TMobile S4 rom onto your phone without Lokifying it...it won't work.
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although, for a VZW rom, apns shouldn't need to be changed as page plus uses VZW towers.... just limited to 3g
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moparfreak426 said:
although, for a VZW rom, apns shouldn't need to be changed as page plus uses VZW towers.... just limited to 3g
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I'd say then update your Philz then try again. There's really no reason you shouldn't be able to flash whatever Verizon rom and be good.
I'd suggest trying Liquid Smooth 4.4 for JFLTE . Since you say the apns aren't an issue. . What version of philz are you on? Some of them had issues with Loki. Like I said the latest works great
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Mistertac said:
I'd say then update your Philz then try again. There's really no reason you shouldn't be able to flash whatever Verizon rom and be good.
I'd suggest trying Liquid Smooth 4.4 for JFLTE . Since you say the apns aren't an issue. . What version of philz are you on? Some of them had issues with Loki. Like I said the latest works great
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Thanks. I may try liquid. I'm on gpe ROM patched for vzw
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MDK here.
MDK also. Had to search a long time to find one, but worth the wait!

[Q] Will the 4.4.2 international update work for us?

Will the 4.4.2 international update work for us? It's for the lte version. Anyone check?
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joshtb86 said:
Will the 4.4.2 international update work for us? It's for the lte version. Anyone check?
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LOL, nope, not even close.
chamberc said:
LOL, nope, not even close.
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anyone think about porting it to safestrap enabled rom?
I think they're doing something like that for ATT people but they got the 4.4 update I believe so that's a different story.
Only way a Verizon users have gotten 4.4 TW is by being on an MDK S4 and using jrkruse's patch.
Hashcode and some others are working on things though... Just have to be patient.
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joshtb86 said:
anyone think about porting it to safestrap enabled rom?
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umm yeah dude. dont try it unless you like hardbricked phones like my S4 seriously. wait means wait so chill guys we've explored all options available outside of Safestrap modification which we'll leave up to hash its his beautiful baby. if your that bored and on MK2 with SS try flashing the first ever found supposed AOSP rom i havent tried it cause my phones currently bricked from trying to get us to 4.42
looks like well be waiting. thanks guys!
gigilie said:
umm yeah dude. dont try it unless you like hardbricked phones like my S4 seriously. wait means wait so chill guys we've explored all options available outside of Safestrap modification which we'll leave up to hash its his beautiful baby. if your that bored and on MK2 with SS try flashing the first ever found supposed AOSP rom i havent tried it cause my phones currently bricked from trying to get us to 4.42
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That sucks man that you hard bricked it trying to get 4.4.2 on it?? I'll log into PayPal and send you something to help.. May not get you another S4 lol but maybe it'll pursued others to send you something too and it can add up.
I'm usually on AOSP ROMs but I've seen what you've been bringing all the SafeStrap folks and you're good people! Keep fighting the good fight.
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Mistertac said:
That sucks man that you hard bricked it trying to get 4.4.2 on it?? I'll log into PayPal and send you something to help.. May not get you another S4 lol but maybe it'll pursued others to send you something too and it can add up.
I'm usually on AOSP ROMs but I've seen what you've been bringing all the SafeStrap folks and you're good people! Keep fighting the good fight.
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hey THANKS BRO! Really appreciate it. Actually got it to a state that I believe its restore-able some how via software only just a matter of expanding our knowledge a bit. Surge just hooked me up with a file now I'm trying to get my buddy over here so I can copy half his phone n try this SDCARD method one more time... Otherwise its off to JTAG but at least its not shot. Picked up an S3 from a friend but VZW refuses to add the IMEI in and I wasnt commited to changing the number. I spose your lovin 4.42 on mdk now :?) really wishing I could still flash custom kernels and my mdk didnt overheat... course i thought if I did a warranty I'd get a new MDK model suprised to open box and pull out an MJ7 thats been refurbished, damn NASA lol
soon as our systems get leveled out i'll be publishing for MDK again. I'd do updates for my current ports but I don't know that theres enough mdk users that would want foxhound 4.6 or omega 28 or echo 20 n im pretty sure jrkruse's zips auto port now so those all probably work with just a flash of his... im jealous of mdk users yall got it made

Questions about s4 root and bootloader. Coming from an s3.

I've read a little bit but I just want to be sure. The s3 was rooted and I believe something was leaked allowing for an unlocked bootloader. I am getting an s4 today from a friend so I was hoping someone can give me a quick overview of where this phone stands.
Mainly I am looked for info on any builds or anything like that I should be careful with. Can every build be rooted and what's going on with the bootloader? Like I said I am pretty familiar with everything I just need a summary of sorts explaining what I should know about this phone coming from the s3. Thanks.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
I've read a little bit but I just want to be sure. The s3 was rooted and I believe something was leaked allowing for an unlocked bootloader. I am getting an s4 today from a friend so I was hoping someone can give me a quick overview of where this phone stands.
Mainly I am looked for info on any builds or anything like that I should be careful with. Can every build be rooted and what's going on with the bootloader? Like I said I am pretty familiar with everything I just need a summary of sorts explaining what I should know about this phone coming from the s3. Thanks.
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Any Verizon S4 on a build after MDK does NOT have a bootloader exploit ( Loki )
You can root and install SafeStrap on any build up to MK2.
NC5 (Kit Kat) can be partially downgraded to MK2 though so that you can root and use SafeStrap. I'll get you a useful link..
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Here's a good place to start and I can also link you to that downgrade method as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49334432
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Here's a good walk through of how to downgrade NC5 to MK2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4
Make sure to thank the OP
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Thanks a lot! I'm getting it later today so we'll see what build he is on.
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MDF v1.0 Release 2
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aholeinthewor1d said:
MDF v1.0 Release 2
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Huh?
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Can someone go over the different build numbers..like which ones there are and in which order..or the security software versions..still confused on what actually matters for bootloader exploit and root.
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Huh?
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That's what mine says for security software version..
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That's what mine says for security software version..
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Bootloader (Generally identical to Build) is what matters.
That is NC5, so you'll be able to do a partial downgrade to MK2, root, and return to NC5 if you want root. No non-TouchWiz roms.
Ahhh really? That's usually all I ran on my s3. I understand the bootloader isn't unlocked but I thought aosp ROMS were still possible with some kind of work around? I thought no bootloader unlock just meant no custom kernels. I remember it being like that back in the droid x days lol
So either way what are best options..revert back to the earlier build..root..then how do I get back to the newer build again to flash
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Ahhh really? That's usually all I ran on my s3. I understand the bootloader isn't unlocked but I thought aosp ROMS were still possible with some kind of work around? I thought no bootloader unlock just meant no custom kernels. I remember it being like that back in the droid x days lol
So either way what are best options..revert back to the earlier build..root..then how do I get back to the newer build again to flash
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There is no working AOSP for any Verizon S4 after *MDK. You're correct that it just means no custom kernels, but nobody has gotten a fully working AOSP to run under the stock kernels.
This thread has directions for downgrade/upgrade with root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
Oishikatta said:
Bootloader (Generally identical to Build) is what matters.
That is NC5, so you'll be able to do a partial downgrade to MK2, root, and return to NC5 if you want root. No non-TouchWiz roms.
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Looks like that phone is on KOT49H which is a GPE ROM with our NC5 modem no?
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Looks like that phone is on KOT49H which is a GPE ROM with our NC5 modem no?
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You can tell it's not GPE by how horrifically ugly it is, and the TouchWiz thing on the left side of the screen.
To be sure he can run the phone info app and see what it says for bootloader: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
Lol hey just making sure. I'm still on MDK and usually the Kot49h I see are GE ROMs. Might as well use that app and make sure that's all
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I'm sure your probably right
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Lol hey just making sure. I'm still on MDK and usually the Kot49h I see are GE ROMs. Might as well use that app and make sure that's all
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KOT49H is Samsung's official build prefix for all Kitkat for our S4 (incl GPE and normal TW).
I agree though, no harm using the app to make sure.
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Lol hey just making sure. I'm still on MDK and usually the Kot49h I see are GE ROMs. Might as well use that app and make sure that's all
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I'm sure your probably right
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Yea I'm assuming its all stock..he stopped rooting his phones a while ago. So essentially I have root and touch whiz Roms. Are the touch whiz Roms for this phone as customizable as if the bootloader was unlocked? If that's even related lol..on my s3 I've been running MOAR which is actually awesome.
Thanks for all the help..one more question..what's this whole safestrap thing?
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Yea I'm assuming its all stock..he stopped rooting his phones a while ago. So essentially I have root and touch whiz Roms. Are the touch whiz Roms for this phone as customizable as if the bootloader was unlocked? If that's even related lol..on my s3 I've been running MOAR which is actually awesome.
Thanks for all the help..one more question..what's this whole safestrap thing?
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info in safestrap thread...its a recovery for those who have a locked bootloader so you can run compatible custom roms
Been reading but haven't found a "clear" path..seems there are different options for going back to the old bulid..and then rooting and getting back to NC5..
A little confused on the order of everything regarding safestrap and rooting
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Been reading but haven't found a "clear" path..seems there are different options for going back to the old bulid..and then rooting and getting back to NC5..
A little confused on the order of everything regarding safestrap and rooting
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If you want root, that's your only option. Partial downgrade to MK2, root, safestrap 3.72, and flash a pre-rooted NC5 in safestrap.
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If you want root, that's your only option. Partial downgrade to MK2, root, safestrap 3.72, and flash a pre-rooted NC5 in safestrap.
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OK so I safestrap before going back to NC5...so is there ant advantage of going back to NC5? Compared to staying on MK2
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