I've read a little bit but I just want to be sure. The s3 was rooted and I believe something was leaked allowing for an unlocked bootloader. I am getting an s4 today from a friend so I was hoping someone can give me a quick overview of where this phone stands.
Mainly I am looked for info on any builds or anything like that I should be careful with. Can every build be rooted and what's going on with the bootloader? Like I said I am pretty familiar with everything I just need a summary of sorts explaining what I should know about this phone coming from the s3. Thanks.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
I've read a little bit but I just want to be sure. The s3 was rooted and I believe something was leaked allowing for an unlocked bootloader. I am getting an s4 today from a friend so I was hoping someone can give me a quick overview of where this phone stands.
Mainly I am looked for info on any builds or anything like that I should be careful with. Can every build be rooted and what's going on with the bootloader? Like I said I am pretty familiar with everything I just need a summary of sorts explaining what I should know about this phone coming from the s3. Thanks.
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Any Verizon S4 on a build after MDK does NOT have a bootloader exploit ( Loki )
You can root and install SafeStrap on any build up to MK2.
NC5 (Kit Kat) can be partially downgraded to MK2 though so that you can root and use SafeStrap. I'll get you a useful link..
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Here's a good place to start and I can also link you to that downgrade method as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49334432
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Here's a good walk through of how to downgrade NC5 to MK2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4
Make sure to thank the OP
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Thanks a lot! I'm getting it later today so we'll see what build he is on.
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MDF v1.0 Release 2
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MDF v1.0 Release 2
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Huh?
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Can someone go over the different build numbers..like which ones there are and in which order..or the security software versions..still confused on what actually matters for bootloader exploit and root.
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Mistertac said:
Huh?
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That's what mine says for security software version..
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aholeinthewor1d said:
That's what mine says for security software version..
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Bootloader (Generally identical to Build) is what matters.
That is NC5, so you'll be able to do a partial downgrade to MK2, root, and return to NC5 if you want root. No non-TouchWiz roms.
Ahhh really? That's usually all I ran on my s3. I understand the bootloader isn't unlocked but I thought aosp ROMS were still possible with some kind of work around? I thought no bootloader unlock just meant no custom kernels. I remember it being like that back in the droid x days lol
So either way what are best options..revert back to the earlier build..root..then how do I get back to the newer build again to flash
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Ahhh really? That's usually all I ran on my s3. I understand the bootloader isn't unlocked but I thought aosp ROMS were still possible with some kind of work around? I thought no bootloader unlock just meant no custom kernels. I remember it being like that back in the droid x days lol
So either way what are best options..revert back to the earlier build..root..then how do I get back to the newer build again to flash
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There is no working AOSP for any Verizon S4 after *MDK. You're correct that it just means no custom kernels, but nobody has gotten a fully working AOSP to run under the stock kernels.
This thread has directions for downgrade/upgrade with root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
Oishikatta said:
Bootloader (Generally identical to Build) is what matters.
That is NC5, so you'll be able to do a partial downgrade to MK2, root, and return to NC5 if you want root. No non-TouchWiz roms.
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Looks like that phone is on KOT49H which is a GPE ROM with our NC5 modem no?
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Mistertac said:
Looks like that phone is on KOT49H which is a GPE ROM with our NC5 modem no?
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You can tell it's not GPE by how horrifically ugly it is, and the TouchWiz thing on the left side of the screen.
To be sure he can run the phone info app and see what it says for bootloader: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
Lol hey just making sure. I'm still on MDK and usually the Kot49h I see are GE ROMs. Might as well use that app and make sure that's all
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I'm sure your probably right
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Lol hey just making sure. I'm still on MDK and usually the Kot49h I see are GE ROMs. Might as well use that app and make sure that's all
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KOT49H is Samsung's official build prefix for all Kitkat for our S4 (incl GPE and normal TW).
I agree though, no harm using the app to make sure.
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Lol hey just making sure. I'm still on MDK and usually the Kot49h I see are GE ROMs. Might as well use that app and make sure that's all
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I'm sure your probably right
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Yea I'm assuming its all stock..he stopped rooting his phones a while ago. So essentially I have root and touch whiz Roms. Are the touch whiz Roms for this phone as customizable as if the bootloader was unlocked? If that's even related lol..on my s3 I've been running MOAR which is actually awesome.
Thanks for all the help..one more question..what's this whole safestrap thing?
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Yea I'm assuming its all stock..he stopped rooting his phones a while ago. So essentially I have root and touch whiz Roms. Are the touch whiz Roms for this phone as customizable as if the bootloader was unlocked? If that's even related lol..on my s3 I've been running MOAR which is actually awesome.
Thanks for all the help..one more question..what's this whole safestrap thing?
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info in safestrap thread...its a recovery for those who have a locked bootloader so you can run compatible custom roms
Been reading but haven't found a "clear" path..seems there are different options for going back to the old bulid..and then rooting and getting back to NC5..
A little confused on the order of everything regarding safestrap and rooting
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Been reading but haven't found a "clear" path..seems there are different options for going back to the old bulid..and then rooting and getting back to NC5..
A little confused on the order of everything regarding safestrap and rooting
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If you want root, that's your only option. Partial downgrade to MK2, root, safestrap 3.72, and flash a pre-rooted NC5 in safestrap.
Oishikatta said:
If you want root, that's your only option. Partial downgrade to MK2, root, safestrap 3.72, and flash a pre-rooted NC5 in safestrap.
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OK so I safestrap before going back to NC5...so is there ant advantage of going back to NC5? Compared to staying on MK2
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Supposedly this update patches root and swaps the bootloader. Proceed at your own discretion.
Most recent VZW update that was discovered today.
I have not yet delved into the files to see exactly what this update updates. A few users have reported Apps2SD being included and a change in phone status that now displays a "Secure Boot Status Field" in addition to the SELinux Status field.
Linky: http://invisiblek.org/sch-i545/SCH-I545_VZW_1_20130613175748_jy2r2k5mdm.zip
MD5: bfc4ae3a1e9e2ea617887a587345f020
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How do we install this, and since its just the upgrade, I'd have to presume it doesn't wipe anything?
Thanks.
boxermansr said:
How do we install this, and since its just the upgrade, I'd have to presume it doesn't wipe anything?
Thanks.
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I dont think you really want to from what ive read today. It will unroot, and patch things so you can't odin the pre release kernel to root.
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asdecker said:
I dont think you really want to from what ive read today. It will unroot, and patch things so you can't odin the pre release kernel to root.
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Not rooted, don't care about rooting to be honest, so that's all not relevant to me
boxermansr said:
How do we install this, and since its just the upgrade, I'd have to presume it doesn't wipe anything?
Thanks.
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Only do this if you don't want to be rooted. You will not be able to flash any Loki kernel and will be stuck with stock until or if they crack this new bootloader
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boxermansr said:
Not rooted, don't care about rooting to be honest, so that's all not relevant to me
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Honestly, that's a pretty big thing to the majority of ppl who frequent the site...
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joderme said:
Supposedly this update patches root and swaps the bootloader. Proceed at your own discretion.
Most recent VZW update that was discovered today.
I have not yet delved into the files to see exactly what this update updates. A few users have reported Apps2SD being included and a change in phone status that now displays a "Secure Boot Status Field" in addition to the SELinux Status field.
Linky: http://invisiblek.org/joder/SCH-I545_VZW_1_20130613175748_jy2r2k5mdm.zip
MD5: bfc4ae3a1e9e2ea617887a587345f020
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thanks joderme gonna dig into this now and see if i can make a stock base and still be able to retain root
boxermansr said:
Not rooted, don't care about rooting to be honest, so that's all not relevant to me
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Safest way is through KIES or the Samsung/VZW updater app.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/galaxys4-sua.pdf
These files are more for devs to mess around with than anything at this point.
Is there a radio upgrade
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Dunno why anyone on this forum would want to use this.
Smokuevo said:
Is there a radio upgrade
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From what I have heard yes there is a modem upgrade.
EVOme said:
Dunno why anyone on this forum would want to use this.
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Apps2SD and HDR Video - DUH!
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Apps2SD and HDR Video - DUH!
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I think he means that everyone on here is looking for rooted ROM n such which isn't entirely true
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bout to flash odex version of me8 i just made if it works and i retain root i will post a flashable in a cpl minutes
beanstown106 said:
bout to flash odex version of me8 i just made if it works and i retain root i will post a flashable in a cpl minutes
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And then Deodex
You're a good man, Beans. Good luck!
Yes! What a day, an update to twrp and maybe this!
No news is good news, right?
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boxermansr said:
Not rooted, don't care about rooting to be honest, so that's all not relevant to me
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This doesn't make any sense to me.
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nes4r2 said:
This doesn't make any sense to me.
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+1000
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481590
looks like they got it done on verizon. i hope they can get on sprint, then i may consider upgrading!
Shouldnt be long now...
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A word of caution that this root workaround to not trigger the Knox flag is only for rooting the device. Flashing a custom recovery and/or custom rom after this root workaround still triggers the Knox flag to increase as listed in the FAQ.
It is a start but its not the full solution. Still good to have for those that are just buying the Note 3 or not rooted their device yet that have been waiting for a workaround.
ericdabbs said:
A word of caution that this root workaround to not trigger the Knox flag is only for rooting the device. Flashing a custom recovery and/or custom rom after this root workaround still triggers the Knox flag to increase as listed in the FAQ.
It is a start but its not the full solution. Still good to have for those that are just buying the Note 3 or not rooted their device yet that have been waiting for a workaround.
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I'll gladly take it for now
gerald410 said:
I'll gladly take it for now
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Me too. If I could get just root without flipping that flag I would be such a happy camper. I'm sure it'll come.
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Looks like he took a look at making this work for us but needs the stock m15 tar
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479952
Post #408
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mjcollum said:
Looks like he took a look at making this work for us but needs the stock m15 tar
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479952
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Will this work for people who have already triggered the binary KNOX counter? Will this reset it or is it a rooting method that doesn't flip the switch?
Edit: Nevermind, I can't read apparently. The answer is No and No/Yes.
Kompster said:
Will this work for people who have already triggered the binary KNOX counter? Will this reset it or is it a rooting method that doesn't flip the switch?
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It's just a method that doesn't flip the switch. It will not reset the counter if it has been flipped. Also it's for root only. flashing a custom kernel/recovery will still pop the knox flag.
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And they have a locked bootloader on be right?
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humdrum2009 said:
And they have a locked bootloader on vw right?
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Added the sprint version.. it is only MI3, but it will at least confirm the method works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479952
Knox sdk without root
Does anyone have the full sdk for a non rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 3 user? I just want KNOX installed on my device.
designgears said:
Added the sprint version.. it is only MI3, but it will at least confirm the method works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479952
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You are awesome.
Now I just have to decide whether to attempt a downgrade or wait a bit longer.
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mjcollum said:
You are awesome.
Now I just have to decide whether to attempt a downgrade or wait a bit longer.
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Actually I'm kinda curious if you could downgrade to MI3. Root it. Use xposed to fake the system status. And get the ota. Without loosing root. Or tripping a knox flag.
Guess I'll have to free up some time to go read through the other thread.
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Here's where we stand so far on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484095
Just wondering if anyone knew that there was even a Revolt ROM for the VZW S4?
Been running Eclipse as my daily driver since I got my S4 back in July, but I just discovered the Revolt ROM and may have a new DD. TONS of customizations, pie controls, halo, 4.3, the works! I couldn't find a thread for is in the development section so I thought I'd see if anyone here knew it was even available for the VZW S4, because it in fact, is.
Here's the video review from The Droid Effect that made me look into Revolt:
http://thedroideffect.com/revolt-rom-review-the-new-4-3-aio-rom-king/
Here's the thread for the 4.2.2 version for the other S4's so you can kind of see the full specs (Don't download from there!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2300817
Here's the DOWNLOAD page for the VZW S4:
http://revolt.iminisoft.org/app/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s4/
The only one I can seem to get working is the 4.3 based ROM under Stable Builds > Alpha.
Is this able to be installed with SS or is this a MDK based rom?
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I'm guessing if its a 4.3 ROM that it isn't going to work with safestrap.Most 4.3 are still mdk
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mdorrett said:
Is this able to be installed with SS or is this a MDK based rom?
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kfraz88 said:
I'm guessing if its a 4.3 ROM that it isn't going to work with safestrap.Most 4.3 are still mdk
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It's indeed an MDK. What's the benefit of Safestrap? Wait...I guess I'll look it up.
R4NDR01D said:
It's indeed an MDK. What's the benefit of Safestrap? Wait...I guess I'll look it up.
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Just a nice work around for us unfortunate ME7 people that allows us to run custom Roms as there is no bootloader bypass for the ME7 kernel.
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mdorrett said:
Just a nice work around for us unfortunate ME7 people that allows us to run custom Roms as there is no bootloader bypass for the ME7 kernel.
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Oh. Damn you ME7!
I'm just curious, how many users are on MDK.
I'm one of them ? .i don't know if there are more on MDK than MK2..
MDK here
android-incredible said:
I'm just curious, how many users are on MDK.
I'm one of them ? .i don't know if there are more on MDK than MK2..
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I've wondered the same from time to time but looking at the MDK based Rom threads it seems like they're is still quite a few of us.
Though I'm sure we're the minority
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Mistertac said:
I've wondered the same from time to time but looking at the MDK based Rom threads it seems like they're is still quite a few of us.
Though I'm sure we're the minority
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MDK (Dev Edition) here. I agree with Mistertac, we're probably in the minority though.
Mdk here
I think I'm MDK or at one time was MDK. I can flash aosp roms but the baseband version listed in my phone is MI1, so which am I?
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I think I'm MDK or at one time was MDK. I can flash aosp roms but the baseband version listed in my phone is MI1, so which am I?
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Baseband is your modem.
If you can flash any AOSP ROMs you're on MDK
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Awesome, thanks!
MDK
I was mdk, but had to flash a TW based rom to flash to page plus. only way to get to diag mode. whole reason I paid extra hundred bucks for unlocked bootloader be now upon flashing an aosp rom I get pop up saying it has kernel issue non samsung blah blah and have to reboot into recovery and restore touch crap :/..... any ideas guys!? I want my aosp goodness
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moparfreak426 said:
I was mdk, but had to flash a TW based rom to flash to page plus. only way to get to diag mode. whole reason I paid extra hundred bucks for unlocked bootloader be now upon flashing an aosp rom I get pop up saying it has kernel issue non samsung blah blah and have to reboot into recovery and restore touch crap :/..... any ideas guys!? I want my aosp goodness
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Well if it was any other build than MDK stock firmware you're unfortunately out of luck. How are you flashing ROMs now? What recovery?
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Well if it was any other build than MDK stock firmware you're unfortunately out of luck. How are you flashing ROMs now? What recovery?
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It was rls15 hyperdrive, supposed to be knox and not lock bootloader or anything. And trying to to use philz. I want my aosp.... with working data! :*( screw samsung and their locking everything now
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moparfreak426 said:
It was rls15 hyperdrive, supposed to be knox and not lock bootloader or anything. And trying to to use philz. I want my aosp.... with working data! :*( screw samsung and their locking everything now
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Well I'm not 100% on flashing a phone to page plus. All I can say is maybe update your recovery to Philz latest and look for a rom that allows you to put Page Plus apns in. But if you're using Philz.. you're still on MDK and I'd have to guess someone here can show you how to get it going.
Also sounds like the kernel your trying to run isn't Loki'd. So look into that.
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Open up a Q&A thread. . I'm sure someone can help better than I can
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Mistertac said:
Well I'm not 100% on flashing a phone to page plus. All I can say is maybe update your recovery to Philz latest and look for a rom that allows you to put Page Plus apns in. But if you're using Philz.. you're still on MDK and I'd have to guess someone here can show you how to get it going.
Also sounds like the kernel your trying to run isn't Loki'd. So look into that.
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I'm new to the s4 but not new to flashing roms, flashing to different carriers etc.... I figured all aosp roms had to be loki'd?..... Or else they wouldn't work to begin with? and to modify apns for different carriers, it's as simple as file explorer,find system/etc/apns-conf.xml and modify or replace that.
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I'm new to the s4 but not new to flashing roms, flashing to different carriers etc.... I figured all aosp roms had to be loki'd?..... Or else they wouldn't work to begin with? and to modify apns for different carriers, it's as simple as file explorer,find system/etc/apns-conf.xml and modify or replace that.
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Yea well you have more experience than I do in that department lol only Verizon and ATT S4's use Loki. Philz latest has auto Loki... Maybe update that and see where it takes you.
If you flash say a TMobile S4 rom onto your phone without Lokifying it...it won't work.
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Yea well you have more experience than I do in that department lol only Verizon and ATT S4's use Loki. Philz latest has auto Loki... Maybe update that and see where it takes you.
If you flash say a TMobile S4 rom onto your phone without Lokifying it...it won't work.
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although, for a VZW rom, apns shouldn't need to be changed as page plus uses VZW towers.... just limited to 3g
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moparfreak426 said:
although, for a VZW rom, apns shouldn't need to be changed as page plus uses VZW towers.... just limited to 3g
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I'd say then update your Philz then try again. There's really no reason you shouldn't be able to flash whatever Verizon rom and be good.
I'd suggest trying Liquid Smooth 4.4 for JFLTE . Since you say the apns aren't an issue. . What version of philz are you on? Some of them had issues with Loki. Like I said the latest works great
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I'd say then update your Philz then try again. There's really no reason you shouldn't be able to flash whatever Verizon rom and be good.
I'd suggest trying Liquid Smooth 4.4 for JFLTE . Since you say the apns aren't an issue. . What version of philz are you on? Some of them had issues with Loki. Like I said the latest works great
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Thanks. I may try liquid. I'm on gpe ROM patched for vzw
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MDK here.
MDK also. Had to search a long time to find one, but worth the wait!
I have the note 3 now, and I'm really disapointed in it. I'm running 4.3 now and will be doing so until I get rid of it, which will be soon. Anyway, I'm going to get the gs4, and I'm a flashaholic, so my question is, if the gs4 I'm getting doesn't have the MDK baseband I'm basically screwed? I have to stick with safestrap for recovery? I change roms like changing socks. Having a locked bootloader on my note 3 sucks, big time. Anyway, thanks guys.
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I have the note 3 now, and I'm really disapointed in it. I'm running 4.3 now and will be doing so until I get rid of it, which will be soon. Anyway, I'm going to get the gs4, and I'm a flashaholic, so my question is, if the gs4 I'm getting doesn't have the MDK baseband I'm basically screwed? I have to stick with safestrap for recovery? I change roms like changing socks. Having a locked bootloader on my note 3 sucks, big time. Anyway, thanks guys.
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Yea unless you get an MDK or Dev Edition S4 you're going to be in the same boat pretty much as the Note 3.
Check on Swappa
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Mistertac said:
Yea unless you get an MDK or Dev Edition S4 you're going to be in the same boat pretty much as the Note 3.
Check on Swappa
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what exactly is the dev edition? The phone I'm looking at has MK2 for the baseband. Thanks for the help
wily5150 said:
what exactly is the dev edition?
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Its the same as every other Verizon S4 except its bootloader is unlocked. Truly unlocked and doesn't need Loki like the MDK ones do.
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Mistertac said:
Its the same as every other Verizon S4 except its bootloader is unlocked. Truly unlocked and doesn't need Loki like the MDK ones do.
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so this is a good phone? Thnaks again. I don't want to make the same mistake I made with my note 3
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so this is a good phone? Thnaks again. I don't want to make the same mistake I made with my note 3
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I love my S4. I actually got an MDK one off Swappa myself. I needed a custom recovery and ability to run AOSP ROMs.
And with more unified JFLTE builds coming out lately there are plenty of ROMs to flash. I like the Note 3 myself just it never came with a bootloader vulnerability like the S4 did.
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Mistertac said:
I love my S4. I actually got an MDK one off Swappa myself. I needed a custom recovery and ability to run AOSP ROMs.
And with more unified JFLTE builds coming out lately there are plenty of ROMs to flash. I like the Note 3 myself just it never came with a bootloader vulnerability like the S4 did.
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so, is the MK2 baseband a good phone?
wily5150 said:
so, is the MK2 baseband a good phone?
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Yea MK2 is still good, just if you're wanting to run any custom ROMs your going to be limited to Touchwiz ROMs only via SafeStrap recovery. Only the MDK build is able to run ROMs like CM . they're devs working on kexec support for SafeStrap so that custom kernel/ROMs can be ran.
The issue with all the builds after MDK is that the security was tightened up with each build. I'll get you a good link that explains a lot of these things...
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Here check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
There's even more useful info linked from there as well
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Also there are some great videos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337590
Showing how to do different things on the S4 . not sure how versed you are in all this so if its of no use to you my bad.. just figured I'd share
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Mistertac said:
Yea MK2 is still good, just if you're wanting to run any custom ROMs your going to be limited to Touchwiz ROMs only via SafeStrap recovery. Only the MDK build is able to run ROMs like CM . they're devs working on kexec support for SafeStrap so that custom kernel/ROMs can be ran.
The issue with all the builds after MDK is that the security was tightened up with each build. I'll get you a good link that explains a lot of these things...
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Here check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
There's even more useful info linked from there as well
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[/COLOR]Also there are some great videos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337590
Showing how to do different things on the S4 . not sure how versed you are in all this so if its of no use to you my bad.. just figured I'd share
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So far I'm not happy, but at least I wont make the same mistake. So, is the MDK just an unlocked phone? What I'm try to get at is what do I look for when looking for a gs4? I got on swappa, good place to find a phone. Thanks for the help so far. I'm almost done here. Thanks for your time
wily5150 said:
So far I'm not happy, but at least I wont make the same mistake. So, is the MDK just an unlocked phone? What I'm try to get at is what do I look for when looking for a gs4? I got on swappa, good place to find a phone. Thanks for the help so far. I'm almost done here. Thanks for your time
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MDK allowed for the Loki exploit which long story short... allows for your custom recovery and custom kernels/ROMs .
The bootloader isn't truly unlocked like on a Sprint or TMobile S4 but essentially Loki gets you the same end result .
Good luck! I'm sure you'll be able to find one on Swappa and they're cheaper now that the S5 is out.
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