Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
wwfc said:
Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
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I would have the Nokia 800 for a try, because i have heard about the beauty of the SAMOLED+ and the Lumia 800 has a 4.3-Inch screen, which is considered as big phone.
But if you want to go for Titan , it is fine too. I have bad experiences with Nokia phones so i don;t really want to use them even i know they are good. Just a personal feeling.
But i think most people would choose the Lumia 800 over Titan, since it has the better design (Higher Eye-Candy level, not sure about Build quality) , for sure a better camera, a better screen with acceptable size.
I just love a massive screen and the 2 -piece of metal design of Titan, that is why i bought it.
The lumia 800 has a 3.7 inch pentile screen. I don't know if the screen in the lumia 900 is a + panel, but the one in the lumia 800 is not.
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Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
For me very is fault on Nokia its construction. On many forums is discussed the creaking housing after a few months of use... On Lumia 800 or N9 with the same construction...
And little display size of course, Titan´s bigger display is fantastic
Lumia 800 has a non-user-replaceable battery,and that's a big -
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Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
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Totally agree. I can't speak to the build quality of the 800 having never seen it, and while I KNOW it's superior to the Titan, that is REALLY hard for me to imagine, because the Titan is solid and beautiful to me!
Well, the Titan has just dropped to £383.99 ($592.07) on Handtec.co.uk. If it was Amazon, clove or expansys i would by now, but I've heard really mixed reviews of Handtec. Some people say its fine, but lots of people say they sent the wrong item or it was damaged or came weeks, sometimes even months late, even after paying for next day delivery. Has anyone here brought their Titan or any other phone on Handtec.co.uk? Cheers.
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
wwfc said:
Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
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hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
Sihaz said:
hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
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Oh god you've made me nervous now if it's not here by 12pm tomorrow (Which i paid extra on delivery for) then i will not be happy in the slightest. Taking the day off work for the damn thing to arrive.
twisticles said:
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month...
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Thanks a lot. Very useful post!
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Good choice mate. Moving over from android to titan and liking it so far but missing the apps. Still got the sensation XL just in case.
Did it arrive!?
It did! And its f***ing awesome. I love it so far. Camera is great, screen is beautiful, no lag at all (which I had quite a bit of on the omnia 7), very good battery life so far. Its on charge atm so using my galaxy nexus and I have to admit the nexus' screen is far superior, but that's the only thing about it that is. It took ages to download my emails, check my twitter/Facebook/forums and send a few texts. Thanks for everyone's opinions !
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So I know this is completely based on rumor and assumptions, but if I were to be able to trade my current smartphone at an AT&T store for a Lumia 900, do you guys think there'd be a market for trading it for a LNIB Lumia 800? I'm really not a fan of screens that are larger than 3.7 inches, and I'm absolutely in love with the curved display. Finally, the PPI on the 800 is higher than on the 900, so naturally, I'd prefer that.
TL,DR; Do you think there'd be someone who would be willing to trade a LNIB Lumia 800 for a BNIB Lumia 900?
dstaley said:
So I know this is completely based on rumor and assumptions, but if I were to be able to trade my current smartphone at an AT&T store for a Lumia 900, do you guys think there'd be a market for trading it for a LNIB Lumia 800? I'm really not a fan of screens that are larger than 3.7 inches, and I'm absolutely in love with the curved display. Finally, the PPI on the 800 is higher than on the 900, so naturally, I'd prefer that.
TL,DR; Do you think there'd be someone who would be willing to trade a LNIB Lumia 800 for a BNIB Lumia 900?
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in short yes... there is always someone who thinks bigger is better as for me 4" screen size is as big as any phone should get and 3.7" is perfect as is the Nokia Lumia 800.
Sure the 800 has a higher pixel density, but keep in mind that the 900 has SAMOLED+, which means 3vs2 subpixels when compared to the pentile unit in the 800. This grants less pixelation and artifacts, in real life usage...keep also in mind that the 900 isn't much bigger, the 800 has more bezel and the curved screen is actually wasting some space.
dstaley said:
So I know this is completely based on rumor and assumptions, but if I were to be able to trade my current smartphone at an AT&T store for a Lumia 900, do you guys think there'd be a market for trading it for a LNIB Lumia 800? I'm really not a fan of screens that are larger than 3.7 inches, and I'm absolutely in love with the curved display. Finally, the PPI on the 800 is higher than on the 900, so naturally, I'd prefer that.
TL,DR; Do you think there'd be someone who would be willing to trade a LNIB Lumia 800 for a BNIB Lumia 900?
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I would be one of them willing to trade.......if I lived in USA.
dstaley said:
So I know this is completely based on rumor and assumptions, but if I were to be able to trade my current smartphone at an AT&T store for a Lumia 900, do you guys think there'd be a market for trading it for a LNIB Lumia 800? I'm really not a fan of screens that are larger than 3.7 inches, and I'm absolutely in love with the curved display. Finally, the PPI on the 800 is higher than on the 900, so naturally, I'd prefer that.
TL,DR; Do you think there'd be someone who would be willing to trade a LNIB Lumia 800 for a BNIB Lumia 900?
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I'm mildly confused. Do you have a Lumia 800 and want a 900 or will you get a 900 when it comes out and want an 800 in exchange? If it's the latter, I may be interested in a trade if I like the feel of the flat 900 display. I bought my RM-801 just last week, so it'll be 2 weeks old when the 900 comes out.
vnvman said:
Sure the 800 has a higher pixel density, but keep in mind that the 900 has SAMOLED+, which means 3vs2 subpixels when compared to the pentile unit in the 800. This grants less pixelation and artifacts, in real life usage...keep also in mind that the 900 isn't much bigger, the 800 has more bezel and the curved screen is actually wasting some space.
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The 900 has a simple AMOLED too.
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The 900 has a simple AMOLED too.
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Yes, both the 800 and the 900 have a Pentile arrangement. This means that the screen is worse quality. Also, the Lumia 900 has a flat display, as opposed to the curved display of the Lumia 800 which (according to reviewers) makes for a more ergonomic experience.
Nope. That's wrong. http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Pentile-Display-for-Nokia-Lumia-900-245972.shtml
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Sure the 800 has a higher pixel density, but keep in mind that the 900 has SAMOLED+, which means 3vs2 subpixels when compared to the pentile unit in the 800. This grants less pixelation and artifacts, in real life usage...keep also in mind that the 900 isn't much bigger, the 800 has more bezel and the curved screen is actually wasting some space.
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Correction: The 900 is much larger than the 800. The HTC HD2 has a 4.3" display and is only slightly larger than the 800. The 900 is considerably larger than both.
dstaley said:
So I know this is completely based on rumor and assumptions, but if I were to be able to trade my current smartphone at an AT&T store for a Lumia 900, do you guys think there'd be a market for trading it for a LNIB Lumia 800? I'm really not a fan of screens that are larger than 3.7 inches, and I'm absolutely in love with the curved display. Finally, the PPI on the 800 is higher than on the 900, so naturally, I'd prefer that.
TL,DR; Do you think there'd be someone who would be willing to trade a LNIB Lumia 800 for a BNIB Lumia 900?
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From what I understand you will trade in your current smartphone call it smartphone x.
So... trade smartphone x for a lumia 900.
Then trade the lumia 900 to a member for their lumia 800.
If that is the case might be willing to do this. I have a lumia 800 RM-819 with the WCDMA 850 in cyan that I just got yesterday. If you are serious pm me.
The 900 does feel bigger in the hands than other 4.3 inch devices imo.
Hello
I'm planning to trade my T2 Ultra for a new Xperia Z2 so I get some more ram and internal storage and because T2 isn't too much supported from Sony & devs.... am i gonna regret doing this as I heard about overheating and self cracking screen and back glass issue?
[Z2] >> Dimensions: 5.78 x 2.89 x 0.32 inches (146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm)
Rugged: Water, Dust resistant
Physical size: 5.2 inches
Resolution: 1080 x 1920 pixels
Pixel density: 424 ppi
Features: Light sensor, Proximity sensor, Scratch-resistant glass
Camera: Popup20.7 megapixels
Flash: LED
Aperture size: F2.0
Camera sensor size: 1/2.3"
Pixel size: 1.12 μm
Hardware Features: Autofocus
Software Features: Face detection, Smile detection, Digital zoom, Digital image stabilization, CMOS image sensor, Touch to focus, Geo tagging
Camcorder: 3840x2160 (4K) / Features: High Dynamic Range mode (HDR)
Front-facing camera: 2.2 megapixels
System chip: Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 / Model: 8974-AB
Processor: Quad-core, 2300 MHz, Krait 400
Graphics processor: Adreno 330
System memory (RAM): 3072 MB RAM
Built-in storage (Internal Storage): 16 GB
Storage expansion: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC up to 128 GB
Battery Capacity: 3200 mAh
Wireless charging: Optional
Talk time: 15.00 hours / the average is 15 h (875 min)
Stand-by time: 28.8 days (690 hours) / the average is 16 days (388 h)
Talk time (3G): 19.00 hours / the average is 16 h (967 min)
Stand-by time (3G): 30.8 days (740 hours) / the average is 24 days (567 h)
Music playback: 120.00 hours
Video playback: 10.00 hours
Radio: FM, RDS
Speakers: Earpiece, Stereo speakers
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz
FDD LTE: 700 (band 13), 700 (band 17), 800 (band 20), 850 (band 5), 900 (band 8), 1700/2100 (band 4), 1800 (band 3), 1900 (band 2), 2100 (band 1), 2600 (band 7) MHz
Data: LTE Cat 4 (150/50 Mbit/s), HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s
Micro SIM: Yes
VoLTE: Yes
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS, Glonass
Navigation: Turn-by-turn navigation, Voice navigation
Bluetooth: 4.0
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a, b, g, n, ac, dual-band
Mobile hotspot: Yes
USB: USB 2.0
Connector: microUSB
Features: Mass storage device, USB charging
HDMI: via microUSB
Other: NFC, DLNA, Miracast, MHL, ANT+, SyncML, MirrorLink, Tethering, Computer sync, OTA sync
Additional microphone(s): for Noise cancellation
Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Barometer, Voice dialing, Voice commands, Voice recording
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If you are asking about overheating it isn't a huge problem in z2, it overheating when you launch a game with wifi or mobile data and this by the time isn't a real problem no thing happen when it overheating, when you close the game the overheating gone except launching game with wifi or mobile data the mobile is cool as example launching Facebook, WhatsApp, Messenger, Instagram any another thing with wifi or mobile data don't make overheating.. only the games make overheating and this isn't a problem
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Hello
I'm planning to trade my T2 Ultra for a new Xperia Z2 so I get some more ram and internal storage and because T2 isn't too much supported from Sony & devs.... am i gonna regret doing this as I heard about overheating and self cracking screen and back glass issue?
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Regret?
No way man.
Its true that it does get hot, but mostly in games and while recording 4k or 60frames.
Cracking screen?
Never had that issue.
Of course I've heard about it, but I had z2 for 1,5 year, my dad owns a z2 and my 2 other friends own a z2 and they never got a cracked screen.
So I think it's a myth. If you will smash the phone on the table many times then it will Crack eventually (as the glass will be weakened with every hit).
If you're afraid of getting your screen broken you may get a tempered glass.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Still a good device I'd have one myself if wasn't on contract, but I'd go for the z3 if possible at least that will still get at least one more big os update. Mm on z2 is more than likely it's last big os update. Px the t2u towards the cost.