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Good day.
I'm brand new to android and I see many people have 'Rooted' there phones.
Q is, what exactly is root?
What does it do to your phone?
What is the possitive side to it?
BTW, i have a current contract with my SP, so I can only get my droid X10 later this year.
johanm said:
Good day.
I'm brand new to android and I see many people have 'Rooted' there phones.
Q is, what exactly is root?
What does it do to your phone?
What is the possitive side to it?
BTW, i have a current contract with my SP, so I can only get my droid X10 later this year.
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+1 for root. Root basically gives you more control over the phone, the positive side being you can customize it more to your liking. And it's been made a whole lot easier thanks to the One Click Root app.
I root my xperia x10a for more battery life and boost my speed
I just bought X10 10 days ago.
Should I wait 2.1 official or root my phone now?
I unlocked my X1 after buying for a half of month (WM), but I don't know too much about Android.
I recommend to wait; mine is rooted, no big deal about it, i just uninstalled moxier and foreign keyboards. There are only a few useful applications that require root, if you can live without them just wait for the update.
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For us with currently unlockable bootloaders (branded phones), will removing the sim-lock give us the option to unlock the bootloader?
No
That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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We just have to wait for a dev to crack it
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Retardo25 said:
That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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I can confirm, O2 UK unlock code does not alter the bootloader status
Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
guji-dude said:
Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Currently there is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader, it will probably come at some point, but not now .
There is no drawback to unlocking your bootloader though, as they will still probably accept your device for warranty, unless you fry your phone with overclocking and such.
But yea, branded phones cant be unlocked at this moment, or well, they haven't figured it out yet. So if you are branded you can't even unlock your bootloader...yet . Give it time, everything will be figured out in time .
Matt1408 said:
Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
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I am under the impression that selling it in the Canadian Sony store means it will not be branded for any carrier, since they'll be offering the phone unlocked. Probably even if they offer it on contract with a carrier like Rogers, it would still be unlocked, but just subsidized with your contract plan.
edit: They did say that the phone is exclusively with the Sony Store in Canada, so you can't get it straight from Rogers anyways, so no worries!
If there is brand in rogers, I am pretty sure they will lock the bootloader just like they did in xperia arc
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Bought mine from the sony store locked to rogers. I can confirm that the bootloader are in fact locked. Bought mine at launch early tuesday morning.(12th)
They currently only sell XpS's locked to rogers. They unfortunately don't sell the unbranded version(/unlocked). They were also surprised by this fact apparently.
BTW the rogers bloatware that came with the device is annoying as hell. If you're going to buy on frim the Sony store in canada. Debranding would be the first thing I would suggest to do. Seeing as rooting or custom roming is out of the question.
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Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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Kiefels said:
Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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I hear you bro
Don't worry, it will come
I have faith in this community that something will be figured out. A few weeks ago it wasn't even possible to flash custom kernels and such, and they managed to figure it out. Now that things are flowing nicely, the rom developers have started working on making things again, and maybe there's more things being looked into in terms of rooting.
I've been here since my X1 and the community hasn't let me down yet, I'm confident they will find a way to get a root, and probably (given the speed even a tester CM9 came out) before ICS.
I guess you might have wait for those paid software like setool .... It will be like the same case like xperia arc. Rogers or any branded phone do not allow bootloader unlock.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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Interesting... I'm a bit skeptical though...
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Yeah, I can't take the plunge and use this phone as my daily driver. Not with Timescape (or whatever you call the Sony UI). I want to be able to use AOSP apps. What I hate is when the UI elements creep over when you're using an app (stuff like checkboxes) and it just makes the overall experience feel inconsistant.
I have since buying the phone debranded it and flashed the singpore rom, and it does a good job at eliminating bloatware, but I want to go in deeper and install CM9 whenever that's ready.
The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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RemixAngel said:
If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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I know you were just trying to be mindfull of what happens to my phone and stuff, but if I "eyeballed" the size what good would it do if I don't have a small enough bit to fit the screw? I was able to remove the frearson screws but am missing the torx.
A test point method is still possible (maybe) but the reason that there are no posts about it is that the software used (Omnius, SEtools, etc) is not yet compatible with the XS.
Im toooo interested too, my phone has bootloader blocked for my phone company, so I cant get root or do anything
Im waiting, I hope too much they find a solution soon !
Now that this phone is officially released, has anyone found a way to root it? I have the sprint version which is the ls992 and I want to root it. I saw a one click tool online but it's not in XDA so I don't think it's reliable. Thanks for any help
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By the way, in case any of you were wondering, I'm coming from the LG g3 (ls990). I like the smaller screen, the fingerprint reader is very responsive, I dislike the moved volume buttons, dislike the audio jack being moved to the top although it DOES sound better, actually a good bit clearer. It feels really good in my hand but does get hotter than the LG g3. The material on the back has a good grippy feel almost, it's not particularly slick which is a good thing. I could hardly use my g3 with the stock back because of how slick it was. The cameras are PHENOMENAL. All of the picture modes provided are outstanding and not just gimmicks in my opinion.
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JCase claims to have a root method already but refuses to release it... even with his rep I doubt his claims.
If the bootloader is unlockable, it should be relatively easy to do.
I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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So the Sprint version has BL locked?
islandfever said:
So the Sprint version has BL locked?
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
solitarywarrior1 said:
It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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Well bad news from Tmobile - I currently have the sprint ls990 LG G3 and decided to make the move to tmobile for the G5 because I was sick of locked bootloaders. The tmobile g5 does indeed have an unlockable bootloader however, LG seems to be using a custom bootloader on the G5 that wont flash anything that isnt verified. Tmobile's G5 already has a TWRP build and noone can flash it because of dm-verity. Essentially the tmobile appears to have an unlocked bootloader but lg has changed the bootloader so that it cant flash anything. That's the current status and I should add that I have not been able to try anything for myself because my phone hasnt arrived yet. But if that is the case on T-Mobile, then it's going to be even harder on Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.
its locked but there's an unlock switch in the developers' options.
I came from lg g3 as well. Massive improvement and loving it so far.I have it thru verizon. Hoping for root soon that's all I really care about.
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ROOT????
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
fiddy619 said:
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Not with a locked bootloader unless an exploit is found. It looks like the same uphill climb as with the SD820 S7/S7E now.
So for now no root, no development
fiddy619 said:
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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May see something at a talk later this year
Omg, if anyone can get this thing rooted, I'll throw 50 bucks your way. This is the only thing keeping my from buying this device 0.0
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
evobyte said:
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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Me too.
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This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
Locklear308 said:
This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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fenguepay said:
It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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I think it mostly has to do with them not wanting the end user to be able to modify the device to get around things like paid hotspots and such. Carriers like sprint that have unlimited data but a paid by the GB hotspot plan potentially lose lots of money off of users getting it free with root. Also you probably have an ISP that rents you a cable modem. Those things are locked down and while you can buy your own - their locked down one, if modified can potentially increase speeds or bypass a meter. I think that ISPs (including cell carriers) like complete control so they can grab every penny and make it difficult to escape their grasps. Once again these are just my assumptions so I could be horribly wrong.
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I bought my V10 last June and for the first time since my HTC EVO decided that I wouldn't root my phone. I have now come to the conclusion that I need root and after logging in to XDA (after almost a 1 year absence) I see that there's apparently no root for this phone.
Obviously I'm on Verizon - what are my choices for an alternative phone that is in the same class as the V10 but can be rooted? Or is a root solution for the V10 closer at hand?
Albine is almost there. Temporary root has been achieved. It should not be much longer for total root!
goatman101 said:
Albine is almost there. Temporary root has been achieved. It should not be much longer for total root!
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Where do u see temp root achieved? I still see nothing
buttsak said:
Where do u see temp root achieved? I still see nothing
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Huh? The thread called temp root over adb.
goatman101 said:
Huh? The thread called temp root over adb.
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Yeah that was back in December...That was awhile ago man and most people can't get it to work. The only progress I've seen on root was a bunch of drama. Kinda disappointing really
I'm still hoping for a V10 root... but it looks like the V20 is rooted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/ls997vs995h910-dirtysanta-bootloader-t3519410
What is a good choice for a V10 replacement? I really want a rooted phone.
AlbertCamus69 said:
I'm still hoping for a V10 root... but it looks like the V20 is rooted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/ls997vs995h910-dirtysanta-bootloader-t3519410
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Wonder if we could use a similar method. All we really need to do is replace Verizons bootloader with a debug one like that and we'll be golden.
brucejg said:
What is a good choice for a V10 replacement? I really want a rooted phone.
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Get a pixel
Haxcid said:
Get a pixel
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Is the Verizon version locked down?
OnePlus 3t
Have you looked at this phone?
I have seen of temp root it works it doesn't work etc...
Partial root only...
Does not survive reboot etc...
But...is it enough root to use debloater to stop ota
Currently debloater does not have proper permissions or something
Does...
Temp root + debloater = no ota
Possibly or no chance
Thanks
AMCJUNGLE said:
Have you looked at this phone?
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2 things that would make me hesitate. Battery can't be replaced and storage memory can't be expanded.
Same with the Pixel.
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Is the Verizon version locked down?
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Yes if it upgrades to 7.1.1 which they do in the store... Buy it from Google
If I had twrp port it might be easy to root.. Doesn't seem to exist.. I asked for it already on another thread, but no email.. I'm going to reach out to friend on hangouts and see if he feel like making one. He doesn't have this device so I'm not sure if he's interested.. The theory is this simple.. " fastboot boot twrp.img." once booted into twrp, we can flash twrp. Had to do it for my g4 and it works.. Also, I've seen twrp on locked bootloaders so that shouldn't be an issue.. No one's mention anything about that method though..
I think this died. Not complaining but it's been quite a few months since it was announced root was coming.
Good thing I'm rooted on 5.1.1 still. Would love to see root for Marshmallow (or greater) though.
I think Verizon and their hardware vendors should be aware that I will not buy a product or service if I can't have a rooted phone.
Looks like a Google phone next go around, much I don't want to go that route.
Sorry LG; Sorry Samsung. You won't be selling me anything.
Feel my wrath and consumer power
I believe the LG V20 is rooted (or at least unlocked)...
I lost my v20 (T-Mobile rooted) about a month ago, so i went ahead and purchased another v20 hoping I could root it again but got the latest firmware which is locked up just like G6. I returned it.
So I'm just curious. What percentage of you guys would buy an unrootable phone and what percentage would not.
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I lost my v20 (T-Mobile rooted) about a month ago, so i went ahead and purchased another v20 hoping I could root it again but got the latest firmware which is locked up just like G6. I returned it.
So I'm just curious. What percentage of you guys would buy an unrootable phone and what percentage would not.
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I have never cared about root and thus never rooted my phones, so yeah I don't really care if a phone is rootable or not
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I don't find root really all that necessary anymore and haven't bothered since I've had the V20. So not worried about it at the moment with the V30.
like a few around here I'm getting the V30 (most likely) for the hardware, and I'll need root for V4A. so yeah, no root, no purchase. period. I'll keep my htc10 or something.
I won't buy a phone I don't own, and that means root. From Day 1.
Root for me is mandatory I have never owned a phone I couldn't root or that had a locked boot-loader.
I want a V30, but nope, gotta wait till the US998 AND a full bootloader unlock is released.
These phones are far too expensive,for me to NOT to have full control.
If I want a locked device, at $800, I'll buy a iPhone 8+ with better software,battery life, processor, ram management etc.
Google and Qualcomm are crazy with this new locked down policy
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I lost my v20 (T-Mobile rooted) about a month ago, so i went ahead and purchased another v20 hoping I could root it again but got the latest firmware which is locked up just like G6. I returned it.
So I'm just curious. What percentage of you guys would buy an unrootable phone and what percentage would not.
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I have never cared about root and thus never rooted my phones, so yeah I don't really care if a phone is rootable or not
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I don't find root really all that necessary anymore and haven't bothered since I've had the V20. So not worried about it at the moment with the V30.
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I think the real question is, why the hell is anyone on here, who don't root or custom rom? and the first 2 posts you get, are both them lol.....
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I think the real question is, why the hell is anyone on here, who don't root or custom rom? and the first 2 posts you get, are both them lol.....
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Why do you (not you specifically but the collective that seems to be here at XDA) all whine about cellphone cameras not turning out photos you like when you should all be rooting your phones and writing new noise reduction and sharpening algorithms instead of complaining about something you all clearly don't understand properly?
I come here to get general information on phones and new program ports. My contribution back is to maybe try to explain what the heck is going on with cellphones' cameras since for a board all high and mighty on getting the most of their phones but don't seem to understand the underpinnings of something they all want to complain about and probably don't have the ability to change if they really wanted to. Yes, I understand rooting, how it's done and why it's done. I've been with Android since the G1 days. At some point though, it has gotten to the point where I don't really see a need for myself to root my device anymore. My V20 worked. My V30 so far seems to work.
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I think the real question is, why the hell is anyone on here, who don't root or custom rom? and the first 2 posts you get, are both them lol.....
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Well it's a thread about v30 which I have been following for a while. The question was asked if we care for rooting or not which means he was expecting answers from both sides, and being on xda doesn't require love for rooting. So these are my reasons to be here cheers
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So v30 bootloader will not be able to be unlocked?
Lmax579 said:
So v30 bootloader will not be able to be unlocked?
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Not on the carrier version.
Wtf that's messed up
Couldn't care less
Just bought the Verizon V30. My plan is to wait until the unlocked version is released and the developers have a chance to get the bootloader unlocked, create custom ROMS, etc., and then (maybe) sell the V30 and get an unlocked version.
This is my first unrooted phone since my first HTC. The only thing that I really miss is the ability to create nandroid backups. I thought that I would miss the ad blocker more than I do, but since most of my apps are ad free it hasn't been that big of a deal.
I say "maybe" to getting an unlocked phone is that I don't want to give up WiFi calling, and so far having an unrooted phone is nowhere near as frustrating as I thought it would be. I also thought that having a silver phone instead of a black phone would be annoying, but it actually looks great.
Amd4life said:
I want a V30, but nope, gotta wait till the US998 AND a full bootloader unlock is released.
These phones are far too expensive,for me to NOT to have full control.
If I want a locked device, at $800, I'll buy a iPhone 8+ with better software,battery life, processor, ram management etc.
Google and Qualcomm are crazy with this new locked down policy
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Agree 100%, everyone Android I have owned has been rooted, and running a custom ROM. I have had a few iPhone's over the years and they were stock not JB, and it's actually not a bad phone stock, with the Ad Blocking apps, etc... But iOS is too locked down for me.
After using a non-rooted phone for a year, my answer is a strong HELL-NO! I will never own an unrooted phone again. I plan to get a V30, but I will wait until the bootloader is unlocked and I can root it with Magisk. Locked bootloaders are for iOS users.