Hi all,
I'm posting this in case anyone else purchases this gear and thinks they can use it like the original battery that comes with the Note 3.
There is another post in this forum that talked about a 50% off code until June, so I bought this:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-K800BUWESTA
Even with shipping/tax, it only came out to ~$31. I thought great deal.
It arrived and I noticed that you can't use it like you would the original Note 3 battery where I stuck a Qi-enabled sticker on it and could use it to wirelessly charge my spare battery when the main one runs down, figured I'd just buy another Qi-enabling sticker.
Thing showed up and it's NOT Qi-compatible. Meaning, it has no contacts on it that let me attach a Qi sticker. Not sure if it's by design that way but just thought I'd provide a heads up in case anyone else is looking to buy this.
sanjsrik said:
Hi all,
I'm posting this in case anyone else purchases this gear and thinks they can use it like the original battery that comes with the Note 3.
There is another post in this forum that talked about a 50% off code until June, so I bought this:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-K800BUWESTA
Even with shipping/tax, it only came out to ~$31. I thought great deal.
It arrived and I noticed that you can't use it like you would the original Note 3 battery where I stuck a Qi-enabled sticker on it and could use it to wirelessly charge my spare battery when the main one runs down, figured I'd just buy another Qi-enabling sticker.
Thing showed up and it's NOT Qi-compatible. Meaning, it has no contacts on it that let me attach a Qi sticker. Not sure if it's by design that way but just thought I'd provide a heads up in case anyone else is looking to buy this.
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There is two ways to do this,
1 modify the unit to support qi by adding a receiver inside.
2 use a USB receiver or a USB dongle.
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kms108 said:
There is two ways to do this,
1 modify the unit to support qi by adding a receiver inside.
2 use a USB receiver or a USB dongle.
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1. Are you planning on opening up the battery to do this? Sounds like a lot of work and possibly ruining the battery if you screw it up
2. If you use a USB receiver, aren't you then completely ignoring the point of having wireless charging? I don't think I understand #2 completely.
sanjsrik said:
1. Are you planning on opening up the battery to do this? Sounds like a lot of work and possibly ruining the battery if you screw it up
2. If you use a USB receiver, aren't you then completely ignoring the point of having wireless charging? I don't think I understand #2 completely.
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1 you can open the battery charger that come with the battery and put a qi receiver inside, the battery charger then can be placed on a home transmitter.
2 connect a USB qi receiver through the USB port on the battery charger.
If you actuall want just the battery with qi built in, it's only available for the S3, S4 and note 2, if it's not qi, but supports wireless charging, other batteries are available for older phones models.
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Ok so I know many people are waiting on wireless charging. My question is, is wireless charging already here just sitting under our nose?
I haven't found any threads talking about this, so I apologize if I am wrong, but the NFC antennae is built into the battery. Could this also be the wireless charging ability unleashed by a powermat?
From: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/23/update-duracell-powermats-wicc-power-matters-alliance/
"Duracell Powermat's key message is that adding wireless charging is now easier than ever before. The wireless charging functionality could be built directly in the battery, as a WiCC card inserted by the manufacturer in the phone or available as an off the shelf after market accessory."
They have also shown their WICC card in the S2, so we know they are pals with Samsung. Also, Powermat has kept saying "coming this summer" for their new line of products. Perhaps the "delay" with the wireless charge kit for the S3 is actually a delay on the part of Powermat getting their new product line.
So I ask, once again...If you set the device on a powermat as is...does it charge?
No comments to this? I thought someone would at least have a powermat to squelch any thought of this I had.
BungeBash said:
Ok so I know many people are waiting on wireless charging. My question is, is wireless charging already here just sitting under our nose?
I haven't found any threads talking about this, so I apologize if I am wrong, but the NFC antennae is built into the battery. Could this also be the wireless charging ability unleashed by a powermat?
From: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/23/update-duracell-powermats-wicc-power-matters-alliance/
"Duracell Powermat's key message is that adding wireless charging is now easier than ever before. The wireless charging functionality could be built directly in the battery, as a WiCC card inserted by the manufacturer in the phone or available as an off the shelf after market accessory."
They have also shown their WICC card in the S2, so we know they are pals with Samsung. Also, Powermat has kept saying "coming this summer" for their new line of products. Perhaps the "delay" with the wireless charge kit for the S3 is actually a delay on the part of Powermat getting their new product line.
So I ask, once again...If you set the device on a powermat as is...does it charge?
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That's a fantastic question and would love to know myself.
I suspect the two pins to the left of the battery are for the wireless expansion. You could be right through.
Any update on this?
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it could be on the optional back cover , the two pins are for the connections , also there are claims that it can charge further away then sticking it on the dock or charging mat , i find it quite pointless if charging has to stationary , i rather just plug it in into my charger
The two pins next to the battery seems a good shout. Means Samsung can sell compatibility battery doors.
Anyone got a schematic and know how to follow the PCB wiring to see if the pins feed the charging circuit?
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No, NFC is not used for wireless battery charging.
It's already been discussed and modded using a Palm Touchstone here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710089
One of the things I was really excited about with the Lumia 920 was the built in wireless charging feature. Since the Nokia charging plate was selling for about 70 bucks (ouch) I decided to see what alternatives were available. I've tried two different wireless chargers so far with mixed results:
LG Electronics WCP-700 - This charger works great and I was able to snag it from amazon for 35 bucks shipped. If you want wireless charging but don't want to pay 70 bucks for one charger, then I highly suggest this model. You can get 2 for the price of one Nokia Charger.
Powermat 2x - I was hoping the community could give me some advice on the powermat. Naturally if you plug the powercube into the phone, it will charge just fine. BUT I noticed that if you put a charging plate on the charger and then put the 920 on top of it, the 920 will begin to go into charging mode, although when i tried doing that, it didn't really seem to be charging at any noticeable rate( I may have been taking the phone off the charger too frequently though). Does anyone know exactly what voltage and amperage the powermat wirelessly charges at? My concern is that the volts or amps will be off and damage could be done to the battery in my lumia 920. Any thoughts?
Good questions! I was wondering the same thing about the different mats out there.
What about the Energizer one?
Also, the LG one apparently beeps a lot...does it do so with the Nokia? When it finishes charging it turns off and lets the phone run off battery for a bit, then turns back on to top it off again, causing it to beep each time it turns on throughout the night. Have you noticed this?
LudoGris said:
Good questions! I was wondering the same thing about the different mats out there.
What about the Energizer one?
Also, the LG one apparently beeps a lot...does it do so with the Nokia? When it finishes charging it turns off and lets the phone run off battery for a bit, then turns back on to top it off again, causing it to beep each time it turns on throughout the night. Have you noticed this?
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From what I've read, the Energizer QI chargers will work fine with the 920, I just didn't get one since the LG model was a bit cheaper. The LG one does beep, although I haven't found it to be too much of an issue. When I place the phone on the charger, the LG mat will beep and show the green charging icon, and my phone will make the connection noise. I also think the mat will beep occasionally when the phone is charged, since it lets the battery drain a bit, then starts charging again, although last night it didn't wake me up at all while I slept. You could probably remove the speaker from the LG pad fairly easily, although from my experience, it's not bothersome enough to be worth the trouble.
beebop483 said:
One of the things I was really excited about with the Lumia 920 was the built in wireless charging feature. Since the Nokia charging plate was selling for about 70 bucks (ouch) I decided to see what alternatives were available. I've tried two different wireless chargers so far with mixed results:
LG Electronics WCP-700 - This charger works great and I was able to snag it from amazon for 35 bucks shipped. If you want wireless charging but don't want to pay 70 bucks for one charger, then I highly suggest this model. You can get 2 for the price of one Nokia Charger.
Powermat 2x - I was hoping the community could give me some advice on the powermat. Naturally if you plug the powercube into the phone, it will charge just fine. BUT I noticed that if you put a charging plate on the charger and then put the 920 on top of it, the 920 will begin to go into charging mode, although when i tried doing that, it didn't really seem to be charging at any noticeable rate( I may have been taking the phone off the charger too frequently though). Does anyone know exactly what voltage and amperage the powermat wirelessly charges at? My concern is that the volts or amps will be off and damage could be done to the battery in my lumia 920. Any thoughts?
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Doesn't the PowerMat use a different wireless charging standard? I thought I read somewhere it wasn't the QI standard.
PowerMat is its own standard.
Not sure where you are, but the plate is $50 and the stand is $70 here.
Might want to try mail-order?
As for other plates, I have a few lying around, but I don't want to risk my phone trying them without knowing. I have 2 plates and a stand, so I am pretty covered.
Philips DLP7210B/10 also works with the Lumia 920.
I ordered a Palm Touchstone off Amazon for $6 and free shipping. I'll know in a few days when it gets here if it works or not, but I read somewhere that it should.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the Touchstone does not work. It makes the charging notification sound, but the battery still drains; it doesn't charge at all.
I have the Maxell Airvolt QI charger. It works but the phone seems to get warm unlike the Fatboy charger I use at night.
jhoff80 said:
Sorry to disappoint you, but the Touchstone does not work. It makes the charging notification sound, but the battery still drains; it doesn't charge at all.
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Doh!
I really hope someone makes a 12v charging pad to keep in your car. Plug into the cig lighter and lay the phone on the "pad" somewhere in the car. I know the new dodge cars have it as an option now.
john94si said:
I really hope someone makes a 12v charging pad to keep in your car. Plug into the cig lighter and lay the phone on the "pad" somewhere in the car. I know the new dodge cars have it as an option now.
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There's no reason why a 12v adaptor of sufficient ampage wouldn't work. Just match up the plug and polarity to the DC adaptor that comes with the charging pad.
But obviously a QI charger is not designed for use in a car. QI only recently release their guidelines:
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium....ermarket-chargers-v-10.pdf?force-download=yes
It seems there are two current wireless charging standards: QI and PMA
Powermat are PMA, and this is a copyrighted licensed standard, i.e., Powermat will get revenue/license on each device. There is a limited trial in Starbucks.
QI is open, and I think a "free" standard. They have public charging spots in Japan, and Japanese handsets are predominantly QI
This is all just what I've recently read, so I'm not an expert or utterly certain it is correct, but it does seem that Nokia 920's are to the QI standard, and so any QI charging plate should work...?
gilesjuk said:
There's no reason why a 12v adaptor of sufficient ampage wouldn't work. Just match up the plug and polarity to the DC adaptor that comes with the charging pad.
But obviously a QI charger is not designed for use in a car. QI only recently release their guidelines:
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I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
SuperSport said:
I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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Make sure you post pictures when you do this.
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SuperSport said:
I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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Ooooo, my Edge has a little 'shelf' under the console that has a ribbed rubber bottom. And it has a 12v plug right beside it. I bet my husband (the engineer) might be able to wire up a charging plate. He would need to shorten the cord so it wouldn't flop around. But he's very good at that sort of thing.
This is a great idea! He works overseas but I think I have a new 'honey-do' for him on his next R&R. Thanks!
beebop483 said:
Any thoughts?
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Anything that is a Qi charger should work, it's a standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)
I have an Everyready Qi charger, the 920 and it are happy as clams together.
schettj said:
Anything that is a Qi charger should work, it's a standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)
I have an Everyready Qi charger, the 920 and it are happy as clams together.
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Nice! I'll get one too!
tabletop charging
I personally think it would be awesome to be able to integrate QI wireless charging into a tabletop. think about it, when you sit down at a table for dinner, you usually take your phone out of your pocket, right? what if you could charge it while you eat? why doesn't starbucks do this?:highfive:
This is one of several Qi receivers on the market. I got it for 16 dollars shipped and waited a couple of weeks. As you'll notice it only has 2 prongs vs 3. This boxed was really taped up tight. I don't really get to the install until around 1:57.
I thought about getting several of these and testing them with all the charging pads I had, but I first wanted to see how popular the topic would be.
Here's a video of me comparing 5 different pads with the Galaxy S4.
If you want to know anything, just ask away.
So after a little use, this particular pad works, but it is the worst experience I've had based on use of the HTC Droid DNA, LG Optimus G Pro, GS3, GS4, and Note 2.
If others want to chime in on which model they purchased, feel free to.
chrisngrod said:
This is one of several Qi receivers on the market. I got it for 16 dollars shipped and waited a couple of weeks. As you'll notice it only has 2 prongs vs 3. This boxed was really taped up tight. I don't really get to the install until around 1:57.
I thought about getting several of these and testing them with all the charging pads I had, but I first wanted to see how popular the topic would be.
Here's a video of me comparing 5 different pads with the Galaxy S4.
If you want to know anything, just ask away.
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I'm interested in knowing whether the back cover protrudes a bit with the receiver installed ?
You know, does it still stay completely flat or is there a small bump in the back ?
From what i saw in your video it doesn't seem to protrude but i thought I'd better ask just in case.
Does NFC still work with the Qi receiver installed ?
Also, where did you find the info on which of the two contacts you should connect your receiver on and do you know what the third one is for ?
Hello all
I have order the ZeroLemon battery
Please guide me where can I get a Wireless charging receiver to put behind it
so I can do wireless charging on the - TYLT • VU • Wireless Charger
Please Help
ilordvader said:
Hello all
I have order the ZeroLemon battery
Please guide me where can I get a Wireless charging receiver to put behind it
so I can do wireless charging on the - TYLT • VU • Wireless Charger
Please Help
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Check the wireless charging thread. It's huge. There are a couple review threads for particular receivers as well.
Note that you will have to solder wires to it and make the connection to the phone yourself. The extended battery is too far away from the wireless charger contacts to install it normally. You must install the receiver over the battery, not under it. The battery would block the charge signal even if the distance were not a problem.
So, I bought this on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GJCYGDU
And honestly, while it's a decent enough charging plate for wireless charging, what they don't tell you is that it's not a micro-USB connection. I cited that in my review on Amazon and the company's response was that I could always buy a cheap longer cable should I need one. With so many other choices, I don't think I'd buy this again. It suits my purpose but at this point, I'm of two minds whether or not to return it and see if I can't find something with a micro-USB connection.
Pros:
Lots of colors
Cons:
No micro-USB connection
Not the cheapest of them out there
No indicator light when charging, no way to know if it's charging except by looking at your phone
I got the "Yellow/Mango" colored one. I think that's what drew me to the unit, the fact that they had so many different colors available, yet the trade off of no micro-USB connection is not compelling enough.
Cool colors. And I can see where it could be a problem for other that it comes with a short cable. But for me that's nothing. I citjd extend cables all the time.
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Cool colors. And I can see where it could be a problem for other that it comes with a short cable. But for me that's nothing. I citjd extend cables all the time.
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No, the cable isn't short, it's not micro-USB compatible on the end that connects to the charging plate.
There are plenty of charging plates out there and for this one to have a "standard" charging connection makes it not usable if you lose the original cord or if the original cord is too short. I am returning this one for another one that has a micro-USB connection at the plate.
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No, the cable isn't short, it's not micro-USB compatible on the end that connects to the charging plate.
There are plenty of charging plates out there and for this one to have a "standard" charging connection makes it not usable if you lose the original cord or if the original cord is too short. I am returning this one for another one that has a micro-USB connection at the plate.
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yea i had a bluetooth headset. It came with a round plug that was about 3inchs long for the cord.
cut and extended it. I remember taking it with me somewhere and drop the charger and it broke.
yea i could of fix it but just got another headset that use usb since its easier.
So i understand where your coming from. Everything is pretty much some form of usb, but iphones.
What kind do you think your going to buy?
I was looking into some on ebay and found one that comes in color for about $39 ship for a kit
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xile6 said:
yea i had a bluetooth headset. It came with a round plug that was about 3inchs long for the cord.
cut and extended it. I remember taking it with me somewhere and drop the charger and it broke.
yea i could of fix it but just got another headset that use usb since its easier.
So i understand where your coming from. Everything is pretty much some form of usb, but iphones.
What kind do you think your going to buy?
I was looking into some on ebay and found one that comes in color for about $39 ship for a kit
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I've added the following to my wishlist...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G9W7PYW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
It comes with two lengths of micro-USB-compatible cables. Once I process the other one through return, I'll buy this one.
Another thing to note is it comes with a 1a ac adapter, and in the description it tells you to use it with a 2a for best compatability. You'll only be charging at around 500ma I bet because of the loss at each step. I wouldn't give this place my money
So, part of the reason i bought this phone was the built in wireless charging. Well it was a big surprise to me [emoji30]when i got my new Qi charger today, and it wouldn't work. I never thought that it wouldn't be built into the battery cover.
So has anyone found a inexpensive, not the ebay 120.00 battery cover, way to add the charging into backs that came with our phones?
You can get the Verizon Wireless Charging Circle case for 59.99
Well, looking for a replacement back or just the qi receiver sticker, I'm not a fan of the flip cases.
Boltons75 said:
Well, looking for a replacement back or just the qi receiver sticker, I'm not a fan of the flip cases.
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I feel the same way. I don't want the circle case, but i really want Qi charging. I guess we will have to wait for them to release a Qi charging backplate only.
Guess this is what i get for getting a phone on day 1 that it's available. I just wish that they would have come out of the box ready to go. Wondering if we can modify one of the adapters from another model phone to work temporarily?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CU...807c1a069f4f45&pi=SL500_SS115#ref=pd_aw_sbs_6
I'm thinking with minimal tweaking this could be made to work.
Boltons75 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CU...807c1a069f4f45&pi=SL500_SS115#ref=pd_aw_sbs_6
I'm thinking with minimal tweaking this could be made to work.
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How does it interface with the phone (both this pad and the G3)? Does it have pins on the case and battery cover?
Yes there are 4 pins on the phone case that should connect to the battery door, but only the two for nfc are being used. My thought, i could easily make an adapter to connect if needed. Minimal soldering to the temp receiver coil.