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Update February 3:
Tried the GPS test again today and I went from 0 satellites before the RMA to now having 7 satellites. Attached is a screen shot of such.
Good job Asus.
Update February 2:
Received my prime last night and played with it for most of the evening. No problems on honeycomb, updated to ICS and still had no problems. There was no information on exactly what they did to repair like I had hoped but all is good.
GPS is slightly better (1 satellite vs. 0 satellites before) but in my opinion, this isn't a GPS device and I don't plan on using it like one.
So in a TL;DR version: If you plan on RMA'ing, it worked effectively for me but the whole process took about a month.
Original post:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to take the time to keep you all up to date on how the RMA side of the prime tech support is going for me and possibly others.
I sent my prime to Texas on the 5th (It's been quite a while.. I miss it.) A week later it was received by the repair facility (the 12th). The support status website then said "Waiting" for about 18 days then finally it said "Ready for shipping" and the "memo" section said I received a new serial number.
I'm guessing the support staff did extensive hardware replacement or simply gave me a new prime. I hope some sort of repair report/record is included whenever I get my prime back.
Original complaint was absolutely zero GPS and slight backlight bleed.
I attached a screenshot of the repair status screen.
I'll update this post when I get it back and disclose whether or not the complaints have been fixed or if there are any new problems. Hopefully this helps anyone trying to decide whether to RMA their unit or not.
intresting. Please keep us posted on the updates. let us know what is fixed!
mine says Waiting-[WB5] Wait for Repair\Test\Aging
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Wait, you returned this because of no-GPS and slight backlight bleed...Really? You must have known GPS wasn't working
Even the IPAD 2s have backlight bleed...
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None the less, good luck, curious how the RMA is going to go.
I am going through my own trials with them. I bought my Prime on the 20th and and received it on the 21st. On the 24th I was at school and opened the tablet (I have the TF201 Dock) and there was a single pristine crack in the screen. Tablet has no abrasions or dents so it is obvious it was not dropped and I am a bit over protective of a new device for the first few months. I think I just got a bad piece of glass, that or the dock is not designed very well. But since the basic design of the Prime dock is the same as the original Transformer I find that hard to believe.
So they received the tablet in TX Friday. Sat in Waiting yesterday. Today it showed they wanted to confirm repair OOW. I called and asked them ??? and they said it was "expertly analyzed" and found to be customer induced damage. I stayed calm and responded with "the table has been treated like it was priceless. The screen cracked when I closed the tablet while in the ASUS made dock. There are no indications of droppage on the tablet and I find it unacceptable to charge the customer for the repair of what is most likely a manufacturing defect."
Now I am waiting 24-48 to hear from a supervisor. Now if I had dropped the tablet I would be like, ok I screwed up. But I did not. And I did buy ADC insurance from Square so I can get it fixed for free, but I am not going to have them fix something I believe is a manufacturing defect. Guess we will see what ASUS customer support is really made of in the next 24-48 hours. Hate having the tablet for 2 days then spending 2 weeks without it. It's like a big tease! lol
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I am going through my own trials with them. I bought my Prime on the 20th and and received it on the 21st. On the 24th I was at school and opened the tablet (I have the TF201 Dock) and there was a single pristine crack in the screen. Tablet has no abrasions or dents so it is obvious it was not dropped and I am a bit over protective of a new device for the first few months. I think I just got a bad piece of glass, that or the dock is not designed very well. But since the basic design of the Prime dock is the same as the original Transformer I find that hard to believe.
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Sounds really weird to be cracking on its own. You'd need to be in very high heat or below/near freezing temps to induce it by nature.
Did someone damage it without you looking? BB gun, threw something, etc. Things can't suddenly crack outta nowhere, but this is pure conjecture of course.
First in the line of a major manufacturing defect?
my touch screen wasnt working and usb didnt work
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Sounds really weird to be cracking on its own. You'd need to be in very high heat or below/near freezing temps to induce it by nature.
Did someone damage it without you looking? BB gun, threw something, etc. Things can't suddenly crack outta nowhere, but this is pure conjecture of course.
First in the line of a major manufacturing defect?
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I wish someone had hit it or I dropped it, I could have just sent it in for Accident repair but I have to try ASUS first because SquareTrade says it is a manufacturing defect if I did not drop the tablet.
Basically I took the tablet, in the dock and closed it. Placed is in a padded neoprene sleeve. Set the tablet and the sleeve on the passenger seat next to me (where it did not move and I hit no pot holes or anything crazy). Drove from work to school. Picked up the tablet and took it inside. Took it out of the sleeve and opened it. BAM crack. Could barely see it from the front on view. I think I just got a bad piece of glass. I have owned the Evo 4G and I own the Evo 3D and a Kindle Fire. All gorilla glass and I have had no problems (granted smaller screens). I attached 2 pics of the crack. (Yes I know there is a sword in one )
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I wish someone had hit it or I dropped it, I could have just sent it in for Accident repair but I have to try ASUS first because SquareTrade says it is a manufacturing defect if I did not drop the tablet.
Basically I took the tablet, in the dock and closed it. Placed is in a padded neoprene sleeve. Set the tablet and the sleeve on the passenger seat next to me (where it did not move and I hit no pot holes or anything crazy). Drove from work to school. Picked up the tablet and took it inside. Took it out of the sleeve and opened it. BAM crack. Could barely see it from the front on view. I think I just got a bad piece of glass. I have owned the Evo 4G and I own the Evo 3D and a Kindle Fire. All gorilla glass and I have had no problems (granted smaller screens). I attached 2 pics of the crack. (Yes I know there is a sword in one )
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Clearly looks like a defective screen. Don't see any indication of impact to me. They should repair it.
It would take a lot of force to induce that
Jonasmyst said:
I wish someone had hit it or I dropped it, I could have just sent it in for Accident repair but I have to try ASUS first because SquareTrade says it is a manufacturing defect if I did not drop the tablet.
Basically I took the tablet, in the dock and closed it. Placed is in a padded neoprene sleeve. Set the tablet and the sleeve on the passenger seat next to me (where it did not move and I hit no pot holes or anything crazy). Drove from work to school. Picked up the tablet and took it inside. Took it out of the sleeve and opened it. BAM crack. Could barely see it from the front on view. I think I just got a bad piece of glass. I have owned the Evo 4G and I own the Evo 3D and a Kindle Fire. All gorilla glass and I have had no problems (granted smaller screens). I attached 2 pics of the crack. (Yes I know there is a sword in one )
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I would guess that a serous amount of flex in the tablet would be required to have that happen. Gorilla Glass however is often misunderstood as break resistant when it actually breaks quite easily. It is hardened glass that is SCRATCH resistant, and not even all that scratch resistant. My daughter scratched the screen on one of my phones with a cheap ring, and she wasn't mishandling it at all, just playing a game. have seen rants about Gorilla Glass breaking on phone placed in their back pants pocket, which is so stupid I can't imagine what they were thinking.
Your glass may indeed have been stressed by the bezel, and assembly, and could easily have been defective, when you consider how many Prime Asus was cranking out in December. If it was stressed in it's frame, and you went out in the cold it could have contributed to its failure. You said you opened it at school. This is important: How did you transport it? In a sleeve/case or just Dock/Tablet in backpack? My thinking is it was stressed, and only took some additional flex or twist to have it snap.
Stand your guns, and just mention ONCE that there are no dents marks or abrasions on the tablet casing. Just calmly (as possible, I know how infuriating CSRs can be) ask for a supervisor, explain that the dock was attached the whole time, and no "accidents" "drops" or anything else occurred. MOST IMPORTANT: Ask : What exactly is the "expert analysis" that was done? Was the glass measure at multiple points with a digital micrometer? What evidence do THEY have to suggest customer induced damage?
Yeah I worked as a CSR for 6 or 7 companies over the years. I can generally remain calm as I remember that they are just following their script and typically have little to no power to do anything other than escalate. I am awaiting a call from a Supervisor which should happen in the next 24-48 hours (which that is not an acceptable practice in mine eyes) so I will see what happens there. I plan on mentioning the lack of ANY drop damage. It's become a matter of principle now. In the end Square Trade will fix it for free but I don't think they should have to.
As for Gorilla Glass. It is hardened glass and can break (albeit not nearly as easy as normal glass) and it's scratch resistance is good but not impermeable. And the solid aluminum frame of the table would have to bend for the screen to bend enough to break. Despite the GPS issue (which I do not care about) and Wi-Fi issue (which I really did not notice any problems aka no worse than any of my other devices) I really like the build and solid feel of the tablet. I'll update once I speak to a supervisor and see what happens.
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mine says Waiting-[WB5] Wait for Repair\Test\Aging
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Mine says this too. This means they need a new part. Well they told me that. They are now looking for a replacement. But 64GB Gray is hard to find for them...
Mine is similar. Sent 1-8 and shows they received 1-14. Asked in email yesterday the status and today got an email that it was being replaced. Serial starts now with C10. I am supposed to receive tomorrow and not sure if I'm going to open or just sell / return it. I was hoping they tested before sending but sounds like according to OP that they don't. Kind of a bummer. Mine went back due to a screen chip on original shipping. wifi was fine and GPS was ok though I never drove with it.
So Tuesday I checked my Status to find (low and behold) that is was on hold for customer induced damage/out of warranty repair.
I called customer support and explained to them that the tablet was not dropped and was secured in padded materials during transport, etc. I was told it would be escalated to ASUS Corporate HQ and someone would call me in 24-48 hours. I briefly told him having to wait up to 2 days for someone to contact me was a poor practice. He made a note in my ticket. I waited 48 hours and guess what? NO CALL.
So I called back this morning. Got a rep and the call started bad. I had to give him every piece of information about me again as if I was starting a new RMA despite him having the RMA ticket open in front of him. I then explained I had waited 24-48 hours and not gotten a call from a Supervisor and that I was starting to get upset at the support I am receiving. I got the standard "I apologize for your frustration" and he checked and the RMA was passed to HQ on the first. I asked why it sat around for a day before being passed and he did not have an answer. So 24-48 hours is now 48-72 hours.
By this time my infinite pools of calm are about out. Then he asks me for my phone number so someone can contact me because they don't have. Refer to earlier when I gave him my information (including number) for the second time since this started.
Yesterday I also received an e-mail from the repair center stating the price for fixing the tablet ($186 for the screen and $65 for labor) and a form I could fill out for payment. Really a form to fax in? Are we back in the 90s. I sent them a long e-mail explaining why I was not paying for repair and that I was waiting for hear from a supervisor from HQ and the reasons as to why I believe the tablet screen was defective. I have copied that e-mail I sent and plan on using it as my standard response to we don't fix broken screens under warranty.
So I guess every piece of glass ASUS uses is flawless. At least that is what the repair center thinks.
UGH! Update again when I hear from someone.
Updated OP
You sent it in for only a slight backlight bleed? Must've been more than slight to make you want to send it in. Plus going from 0 sat's to just one can barely be called an improvement. Plus a month wait...
Well glad to hear you got device back n satisfied with it. That's all that matters in the end. Not all RMA are nightmares but the post a coupple ones back sounds bad. I'd be pissed off.
I sent my prime back on January 5th. It had all the issues with it. After 25+ days waiting I got a brand new prime! I think I had to wait because I had the 64GB Gray and they did not have these in stock. This prime serial starts out with a "C". Everything has been working perfectly! GPS, WIFI, KEYBOARD, LAG... those were all the issues I sent it in for. WOW is all I can say! This thing works like it is stated on their product page!
GPS needs to be in the window to work but, it works and works well! I not sure what the peoples homes are made of when they can sit in their house and get it to work.
Time to go mess with it more!
demandarin said:
You sent it in for only a slight backlight bleed? Must've been more than slight to make you want to send it in. Plus going from 0 sat's to just one can barely be called an improvement. Plus a month wait...
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Well good things come to those with patience I suppose. Today I had a 7 satellite lock within about 15 seconds.
Screenshot attached to the OP.
bscotth said:
Update February 3:
Tried the GPS test again today and I went from 0 satellites before the RMA to now having 7 satellites. Attached is a screen shot of such.
Good job Asus.
Update February 2:
Received my prime last night and played with it for most of the evening. No problems on honeycomb, updated to ICS and still had no problems. There was no information on exactly what they did to repair like I had hoped but all is good.
GPS is slightly better (1 satellite vs. 0 satellites before) but in my opinion, this isn't a GPS device and I don't plan on using it like one.
So in a TL;DR version: If you plan on RMA'ing, it worked effectively for me but the whole process took about a month.
Original post:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to take the time to keep you all up to date on how the RMA side of the prime tech support is going for me and possibly others.
I sent my prime to Texas on the 5th (It's been quite a while.. I miss it.) A week later it was received by the repair facility (the 12th). The support status website then said "Waiting" for about 18 days then finally it said "Ready for shipping" and the "memo" section said I received a new serial number.
I'm guessing the support staff did extensive hardware replacement or simply gave me a new prime. I hope some sort of repair report/record is included whenever I get my prime back.
Original complaint was absolutely zero GPS and slight backlight bleed.
I attached a screenshot of the repair status screen.
I'll update this post when I get it back and disclose whether or not the complaints have been fixed or if there are any new problems. Hopefully this helps anyone trying to decide whether to RMA their unit or not.
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Your kidding right? You sent your Prime in to have GPS fixed? There is no fix you cannot use it for navigation what the heck do you care if you can lock on to satellites or not it's irrelevant. You haven't had your Prime for a month and your happy with Asus?..... ROFL
Thanks OP. My replacement unit is coming on Monday. Here's my status: http://i41.tinypic.com/211jep2.jpg
And yes, GPS was one of several reasons I RMA'd.
Had phone since the Sunday it was released...screen has developed a crack at the bottom, just above the capac. buttons going completely across the screen.
Everything still works fine, but is obnoxious to look at.
Heres the thing... (and I know people will doubt this) but I haven't dropped the phone at all. Not even set it down roughly. This morning, everything was normal...went to go to work and put it in my bag by itself (correction - only other thing in there was a book and a wool hat). Got to work, took my phone out and BLAM, crack stretching from one side to the other. No marks around the bumpers or anything. I'm completely nonplussed at what could have happened. My thinking is flex *could* have done this, but that seems like it'd need a hell of a lot of pressure to do.
Well, ATT won't cover it, samsung won't cover it and the quoted repair cost is $200. Deductible for ATT phone insurance is...you guessed it...$200 (or $250 can't remember).
Anyone have any luck with these flybynight screen repair shops? I don't think they'd have the parts in stock for the phone since it is new and kind of a fringe product.
I'm seriously pissed...hung around with my iphone 3g for 3 years waiting for a good phone to upgrade to..finally blow my upgrade and a week later blam.
Rant!
You have a warranty just send it in to get fixed
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It should be obvious it wasn't dropped.
just take it back under warranty and get it replaced.
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Yes warranty would work as long as it doesn't look dropped down.
raviluke said:
Yes warranty would work as long as it doesn't look dropped down.
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I called Samsung on the phone and they told me it wouldn't be covered under warranty... I did explain to them that it hadn't been dropped or anything. Should I call and pester them again?
balorok said:
I called Samsung on the phone and they told me it wouldn't be covered under warranty... I did explain to them that it hadn't been dropped or anything. Should I call and pester them again?
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I would take it to a different AT&T location and see if they'll replace it. Sounds like you got a rubbish device. I can't imagine they would replace it, as long as it's obvious it hasn't been dropped.
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Some photos of the damage/device, I have more of just about every angle. I cannot find *any* indication of external damage which makes sense, but still the screen is jacked.
I bet the book fid that. That happened to our recrptionist to her iphone. A book in the back pack. She is a college studemt.
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I would imagine the book definitely did that. Don't let them know that though ;-)
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A paperback book could do that? Thats actually very concerning to me as a consumer. I'm extremely cautious with my electronics (ask my wife, she will eyeroll ) and to have something like this occur without any strenuous contact being made with the phone is appalling.
First Samsung phone, and unfortunately will most likely be my last. It looks and operates flawlessly and was exactly what I wanted... but I can't for the life of me see spending that kind of money on something that can essentially break through such light use.
balorok said:
Had phone since the Sunday it was released...screen has developed a crack at the bottom, just above the capac. buttons going completely across the screen.
Everything still works fine, but is obnoxious to look at.
Heres the thing... (and I know people will doubt this) but I haven't dropped the phone at all. Not even set it down roughly. This morning, everything was normal...went to go to work and put it in my bag by itself (correction - only other thing in there was a book and a wool hat). Got to work, took my phone out and BLAM, crack stretching from one side to the other. No marks around the bumpers or anything. I'm completely nonplussed at what could have happened. My thinking is flex *could* have done this, but that seems like it'd need a hell of a lot of pressure to do.
Well, ATT won't cover it, samsung won't cover it and the quoted repair cost is $200. Deductible for ATT phone insurance is...you guessed it...$200 (or $250 can't remember).
Anyone have any luck with these flybynight screen repair shops? I don't think they'd have the parts in stock for the phone since it is new and kind of a fringe product.
I'm seriously pissed...hung around with my iphone 3g for 3 years waiting for a good phone to upgrade to..finally blow my upgrade and a week later blam.
Rant!
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buy a replacement from ebay and fix it yourself. shouldnt be too difficult, I have replaced my iphones and my sensations screen and they pretty much were the same
I tried looking on ebay for a replacement, but perhaps I'm searching for the wrong thing...
can you share a link?
After calling just about every ATT store in town and explaining the problem, I found one willing to exchange it for a new one no questions asked.
I'm still worried about the durability of the phone since nothing major occurred that should cause this amount of damage. Hopefully I just had a defective screen or something and this one will last me a long, long time.
i carry my note in my pocket (I'm a big guy) it rides in the front pocket all day was case-less for the first week i mean i worked played and goofed off with it there can't even tell. i think u just got a bad glass display it is mass produced product and defects do happen.
I myself was very impressed with the build quality of the phone how sturdy it felt despite its lack of depth. So i'd just be aware and keep ur books away from it
should probably just start storing my books on the damn thing
balorok said:
After calling just about every ATT store in town and explaining the problem, I found one willing to exchange it for a new one no questions asked.
I'm still worried about the durability of the phone since nothing major occurred that should cause this amount of damage. Hopefully I just had a defective screen or something and this one will last me a long, long time.
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Im guessing you just had a faulty screen. Gorilla glass can take some serious pressure, and is even pretty damn good at shock resistance. I've dropped my old captivate and infuse countless times without a case and never cracked a screen. Hell, last summer my captivate took a kick from a full grown horse when it was in my pocket, and the screen survived. The hoof hit the back of my captivate, bent the backplate and battery, but the screen was fine. It saved me from a huge bruise, that's for sure.
I think you will be fine with a new device, because it sounds like a faulty screen. Don't let one faulty Samsung ruin Samsung for you forever. They make great devices, and their screens are matched by none. Other manufacturers are just as likely do have a defective device, you just got really unlucky with your first note.
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I have already dropped my note face down on a corner (it was in a speck case and had a clear screen protector on) and knock on wood it was fine. It is very possible that its just a faulty screen. I would pesster the heck out of at&t and samsung til i got a new phone. They will budge you just have to be persistant.
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I am anal about my devices also, and the thought of just throwing it in a bag makes me cringe! Always front left pocket for me, no exceptions!
balorok said:
A paperback book could do that? Thats actually very concerning to me as a consumer. I'm extremely cautious with my electronics (ask my wife, she will eyeroll ) and to have something like this occur without any strenuous contact being made with the phone is appalling.
First Samsung phone, and unfortunately will most likely be my last. It looks and operates flawlessly and was exactly what I wanted... but I can't for the life of me see spending that kind of money on something that can essentially break through such light use.
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No offense, but if you stuffed your Note in a bag with a book or anything else, you're not really that cautious with your electronics. There's a reason I have never damaged any of my phones or tablets. It's because I don't do things like that.
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No offense, but if you stuffed your Note in a bag with a book or anything else, you're not really that cautious with your electronics. There's a reason I have never damaged any of my phones or tablets. It's because I don't do things like that.
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I'm not sure where you got the idea that I "stuffed" it in a bag. The bag in question was a messenger style bag with separate internal pockets, phone was in one, book in the other. Book was a paperback (you can actually see it in my photos) about 200 pages thick.
UPDATE:
Second phone screen cracked. Top of screen near the front camera. Had it less than 24 hours - took it back and they exchanged it again with no issues.
Got it at around 4pm, took it home, put it in case (SGP) and put it to charge, went to the gym and then came home and did some programming for a few hours before bed. Phone stayed on charger the whole time. Next morning I put (note: did not "stuff") the phone into my right front pocket of my jeans (normal jeans, not skinny or anything). It was the only thing in the pocket, had a wallet in my back right pocket and some disposable eye contacts in my left front pocket. Walked about 3 blocks to a lecture checked email on the phone - no crack. sat with it in the pocket (front right) for about an hour and a half, then got up and walked home. Got home took the phone out...crack! About an inch long from the very edge of the glass towards the middle of the phone.
I can't make this stuff up. Took it to the store and they replaced it for me again. Manager said something about maybe they got tussled around during shipment or packing.
Both cracked were white devices. The phone I have now is a black one.
I'm trying to think of reasons why this could have occurred twice. First time could possibly have been from being in the bag, but I wasn't throwing the bag around or anything like that. Second time? Who knows... if walking with a phone in your pocket causes it to break...
I am super thankful that I found a store willing to do the exchanges, and I do love this phone...but what the heck!
Of course it happens 1 day after the return period. Hopefully this will be covered by Asus and not turn into a RMA nightmare. Does anybody have any info if this is an easy fix? Also my battery is draining at a more rapid speed too. Could these problems be related? The last 2 pins on the bottom are now broken off as well.
-UPDATE- 6/1/12
Sent it out for an RMA on May 18th, one day before my 30 day RMA would expire. I got it back from Asus after a couple little scares. First, I forgot to take out my Class 10 32gb Micro SD card. I went on to the support chat and they said it was no problem and happens all the time. I called customer service after and they made an addendum to my RMA saying an SD card was included. After about a week and a half of the status saying "Repairing" it finally changed to "Waiting for customer reply OOW-CID" I again went straight to support chat and they guy told me that it might be a case of Customer Induced Damage. I explained that it was most definitely not CID. He told me to call and explain my case becomes sometimes it turns out not to be CID. Procrastination got the best of me and I forgot to call. Next thing I know I get an email saying Asus shipped my Prime back. At this point I just hoped for the best. Coming home June 1st I see a little package right outside my door. All the time wondering why Fedex didn't have anyone sign for it like the directions say. Someone could have a nice little tablet assuming they were brave enough to take it off my steps. Opened it up and BAM! Fixed good as new!!!! SD returned and everything! The only thing that I was a little puzzled by was they gave me back my crappy broken cord. Which is what started this whole thing in the first place. I don't really care about that since I got another one off eBay for like 8 bucks. So here's the breakdown:
Pros-
Fixed for free
SD card was taken care of
Only 12 calendar days (not work days) until it was back in my hands
No new scratches/dents/cracks/bleeding/anything from being opened and worked on
Very helpful customer service
Cons-
Didn't replace cord (No big deal)
Put me on that short list of people that had a very positive RMA experience. I thing Asus is starting to get it's shizz together after some less that stellar RMA performances. I sent mine to the Texas facility BTW.
Explodee said:
Of course it happens 1 day after the return period. Hopefully this will be covered by Asus and not turn into a RMA nightmare. Does anybody have any info if this is an easy fix? Also my battery is draining at a more rapid speed too. Could these problems be related? The last 2 pins on the bottom are now broken off as well.
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Its not a factory flaw (although i think the connector on the tablet is asking for it), I'm afriad, youll be liable for the repair.
Battery drain could well be bacause there are pins shorting on each other, try to seperate any that are touching with tweezers etc (carefully)
Any idea how much they will charge?
I have similar damage to my dock (not tablet). It got dropped while being charged & landed on connector. Both cable & dock connector damaged. Definately a weak point!
I contacted ASUS UK who's only suggestion was return for repair (at quite a high MINIMUM cost).
Instead, I've obtained a new dock from the USA - probably cheaper than a repair.
I've also managed to obtain new connectors and will attempt my own repair.
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I have similar damage to my dock (not tablet). It got dropped while being charged & landed on connector. Both cable & dock connector damaged. Definately a weak point!
I contacted ASUS UK who's only suggestion was return for repair (at quite a high MINIMUM cost).
Instead, I've obtained a new dock from the USA - probably cheaper than a repair.
I've also managed to obtain new connectors and will attempt my own repair.
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Where did you get a new dock connector? I was looking around and couldn't find a replacement part.
I'm not 100% certain until they arrive, but I think the connectors are made by TE connectivity, either part number 2129260-2 or 2129273-1
I have ordered mine from Mouser Electronics
uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/2129276-1/?qs=UlfnwZ2x8nSgxOi2zKjuCA%3d%3d
There is a Data Sheet available from this page that provides information on the range.
Explodee said:
Of course it happens 1 day after the return period. Hopefully this will be covered by Asus and not turn into a RMA nightmare. Does anybody have any info if this is an easy fix? Also my battery is draining at a more rapid speed too. Could these problems be related? The last 2 pins on the bottom are now broken off as well.
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if its been less than 90 days since purchase, I think you can buy a squaretrade warranty ...check out the site or call and ask them what the policy is.
Read through this thread it will give you a better grasp on them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471404&highlight=squaretrade
Try http://www.asusparts.eu/index.php?cPath=222155_222535
not exactly sure what the part number would be .. you might have to take yours apart to find that out first
how did you do that?
How did it happen? Is there a way to say how it happened that's not far from the truth but sounds a little more in your favor? Something like : I was having difficulty connecting the power supply since I got it and thought it wasn Edit: wasn't right and now it looks like this and won't work anymore?
I'd also change the pic to a little farther away. While it's good for us it looks bad on your part showing it that close up to Asus. Don't know but maybe they would have you send a pic before you send the tab to determine if it is covered.
I think I would just act like I don't know exactly how it happened and see what they say. I think they would cover it because it is so new.
I made a request about a week ago on the Asus site but they were way too slow to respond so I called them up yesterday. I had a very helpful guy on the phone talking to me who was asking me all the questions. I told him that I am super careful with this thing and gadgets in general. (Never lost a phone, or even broken one. Same with all my computers/mp3 players and so on) I had a case and screen protector ordered even before I bought my Prime. I told him the cable must have been crappy and it totally screwed up the inside connector. He put me on hold after I gave him my whole spiel and came back with a RMA number and instructions/e-mails to be sent out for service. I am posting on here to see if anyone had a similar experience and also to see if this would be covered. I read in the e-mail that physical damage is not covered. But if the cord is faulty and caused this then it would be covered right? And since I was given RMA authorization does that mean I'm in the clear? Or am I sending it away for 3 weeks for them to just say tough break sucka, we don't cover that.
It's possible it could be covered but best believe they will check to see if this was user induced damage(U.I.D). If they don't cover it and you're within 90 days of purchase, just buy the squaretrade warranty that covers physical damage. It'll be cheaper than paying Asus to fix it if they decide not to cover it. I seriously doubt someone would intentionally break the only source of power for the device but Asus could see it as user caused damage by not handling the plug Right.
Your story makes me Leary now of constantly using the prime while plugged up. I don't want to stress the 40pin connector to break like yours did.
Good luck! Remwber square trade of you within that 90 day window and if Asus denies you coverage.
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Of course it happens 1 day after the return period. Hopefully this will be covered by Asus and not turn into a RMA nightmare. Does anybody have any info if this is an easy fix? Also my battery is draining at a more rapid speed too. Could these problems be related? The last 2 pins on the bottom are now broken off as well.
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Aren't these pictures of an original TF-101, rather than a Prime? The design of the back cover is a bit of a give away.
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Aren't these pictures of an original TF-101, rather than a Prime? The design of the back cover is a bit of a give away.
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Lol, what? TF101 is thick and brown, doesn't have tapered edges like the Prime. That's a Champagne Gold tapered edge slightly covered up by a Skinomi carbon-fiber skin.
Anyway, that sucks. Wouldn't the part itself be interchangeable with TF101 counterpart? Or would they maybe be routed differently? Didn't look at the linked parts, is that what they were?
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Lol, what? TF101 is thick and brown, doesn't have tapered edges like the Prime. That's a Champagne Gold tapered edge slightly covered up by a Skinomi carbon-fiber skin
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Yup, you're right. My mistake.
Have to say, I'm not liking that Skinomi skin compared to the Prime's spun metal finish.
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Yup, you're right. My mistake.
Have to say, I'm not liking that Skinomi skin compared to the Prime's spun metal finish.
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Yeah, it also is too abrasive of a surface. Protects the Prime and all, but be careful with expensive wooden tables, and it's rubbing the fake leather off my minisuit case. I actually just took it off the keyboard so it's only on the Prime now. Once I tire of it altogether, I think I'm just going to put Skinomi's clear cover on the entire thing; keep it protected and pretty
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TheKraken said:
Aren't these pictures of an original TF-101, rather than a Prime? The design of the back cover is a bit of a give away.
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LMFAO at this. =)
As far as CID, the guy could have given you an RMA number just to get rid of you. I hate to be so blunt about it but you MAY have a fight on your hands with this one. They MAY tell you since its CID you have to pay shipping both ways, now I am not saying that it IS CID but they may claim it to be.
I wish ya the best of luck with it and let us know how it goes.
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Something to look into before you send it off. I was looking for a new credit card yesterday and I noticed that bank of america and amex and maybe other cards offer a shopping service where:
Within 90 days, if your item is stolen or damaged, they will cover it 100%.
bottom line: CALL YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY to see if they'll cover it, if Asus tries to charge you for it.
From other people's stories, they may just call it customer induced damage (CID) and try to charge you for it.
Good luck though!
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Something to look into before you send it off. I was looking for a new credit card yesterday and I noticed that bank of america and amex and maybe other cards offer a shopping service where:
Within 90 days, if your item is stolen or damaged, they will cover it 100%.
bottom line: CALL YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY to see if they'll cover it, if Asus tries to charge you for it.
From other people's stories, they may just call it customer induced damage (CID) and try to charge you for it.
Good luck though!
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Yeap, thats a 100% amex only thing, and only if you purchased it on their card. Definately nice though to know thats in your back pocket if you carry one.
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Yeap, thats a 100% amex only thing, and only if you purchased it on their card. Definately nice though to know thats in your back pocket if you carry one.
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i think i might have seen that on the bofa website too. doesn't hurt to call up and ask though
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Well i recieved my z2 yesterday and immediately and possibly stupidly wanted to test the waterproof aspect of it, i dunked it in a bowl of cold water for no more than 30 seconds however i more have moisture in my camera lens. I've let it try and dry out even left it in rice all last night with the flaps open and the moisture is still there, thing is the flaps were sealed properly so i have no idea why this has happened. Just hoping i haven't knacked the phone on the first day if having it, any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
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Well i recieved my z2 yesterday and immediately and possibly stupidly wanted to test the waterproof aspect of it, i dunked it in a bowl of cold water for no more than 30 seconds however i more have moisture in my camera lens. I've let it try and dry out even left it in rice all last night with the flaps open and the moisture is still there, thing is the flaps were sealed properly so i have no idea why this has happened. Just hoping i haven't knacked the phone on the first day if having it, any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
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Exactly same thing happened to me, except my phone is now dead too. Going back to the vendor with it today. Hopefully they'll be cool about it, but I'm expecting an argument although this should be covered by DOA rules in the first seven days.
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Exactly same thing happened to me, except my phone is now dead too. Going back to the vendor with it today. Hopefully they'll be cool about it, but I'm expecting an argument although this should be covered by DOA rules in the first seven days.
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Im tempted to take mine to a shop and see what they say good i love the phone but atm the camera is no use :/ should they take it back?
chucklz_smiley said:
Im tempted to take mine to a shop and see what they say good i love the phone but atm the camera is no use :/ should they take it back?
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Bought mine from a local online vendor that also has brick-and-mortar shops and wanted to check their info online first. They say water exposure voids the warranty of all their products, but refer to the manufacturer's warranty info. But I have no such info in my box, but instructions say that if water is found inside the casing it voids the warranty. Therein lies the rub - if your waterproofing doesn't work, you're gonna get water inside the thing.
Anyway, waiting to hear back from Sony. Another potential issue I have is that under my Imei info on their support site my warranty went out in July 2013 - before the phone was even made or launched. Hoping Sony will be reasonable with this. I decided not to involve the vendor, but I might have to try.
"cold water" - Explains it all.
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"cold water" - Explains it all.
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How does that explain anything?????? would it be better in boiling water???? If you can find me something from sony that says the waterproofing only works in water within a certain temparature range, then i will accept that cold water explains it all....... as it is the temp of the water explains sod all!!!!!!
On a lighter note, im kinda glad my mates been away all week so haven't been able to dunk it in his fishtank....... not sure that i want to now lol
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How does that explain anything?????? would it be better in boiling water???? If you can find me something from sony that says the waterproofing only works in water within a certain temparature range, then i will accept that cold water explains it all....... as it is the temp of the water explains sod all!!!!!!
On a lighter note, im kinda glad my mates been away all week so haven't been able to dunk it in his fishtank....... not sure that i want to now lol
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation
Tested under Fresh water :
http://www.static.xperiablog.net/wp...hy_waterproof_a_smartphone_printres-01-01.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation
Tested under Fresh water :
http://www.static.xperiablog.net/wp...hy_waterproof_a_smartphone_printres-01-01.jpg
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What are you on about???
Water can be fresh and cold.
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What are you on about???
Water can be fresh and cold.
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1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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You're not making much sense I'm afraid.
KyleSforza said:
1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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Ehm I'm not a good at science, but when you get water outside of your glass of cold water is because of the moist in the air is cooled down from gas to liquid form.
Sorry for bad explaining, I am not good with the english terminology.
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Ehm I'm not a good at science, but when you get water outside of your glass of cold water is because of the moist in the air is cooled down from gas to liquid form.
Sorry for bad explaining, I am not good with the english terminology.
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You are correct. Water droplets formed outside of a chilled glass is caused by condensation which is when gas is changed to liquid. Condensation formed on lens is usually caused by a drastic change in temperature long enough to cause condensation.
On topic, when dealing with camera lens for DSLRs, you want to allow your gear to adjust to the temperature when going from a really cold environment to a warm environment or vice versa. One way I know if allowing your gear to adjust is to place them in pouches or bags and bring it into the other environment to let it adjust then take them out.
In this case, the phone going from a warm environment (the room) to a cold environment (the water) may have caused condensation to build up. I've gotten condensation build up before in my old iphone 3gs. I THINK I got rid of it by using a blow dryer to blow on the lens and I just let the phone sit for awhile. Eventually the condensation went away.
I filmed the water test of my phone - when it failed miserably with bubbles rushing out of the bottom of the screen as water rushed in - after some hassles with Sony's repair request system, I finally got the local Sony reps to call the repair shop and send a shipping label. Sent in the phone with a note referring to the video and had a replacement phone before the end of the week. At the end of the day, I'm very pleased with Sony's handling of the matter.
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I filmed the water test of my phone - when it failed miserably with bubbles rushing out of the bottom of the screen as water rushed in - after some hassles with Sony's repair request system, I finally got the local Sony reps to call the repair shop and send a shipping label. Sent in the phone with a note referring to the video and had a replacement phone before the end of the week. At the end of the day, I'm very pleased with Sony's handling of the matter.
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Update to my case, unfortunately the replacement unit suddenly has moisture in the lens after a visit to the pool. This track record is getting me down now. Two phones rated at IP58 and both get water on the inside.
My friend just returned from a vacation to Greece where he took his Z1. He wanted to shoot videos in the pool at the hotel. This is the result:
Unfortunately he got moisture inside the camera and flash.
Fortunately he was able to blow warm air inside with a hair dryer and get rid of the moisture.
Unfortunately his screen started to malfunction 2 days later (he doesn't know if it's related to moisture or not)
Fortunately he still has warranty
Unfortunately the warranty is not with Sony but with a mobile carrier
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My friend just returned from a vacation to Greece where he took his Z1. He wanted to shoot videos in the pool at the hotel. This is the result:
Unfortunately he got moisture inside the camera and flash.
Fortunately he was able to blow warm air inside with a hair dryer and get rid of the moisture.
Unfortunately his screen started to malfunction 2 days later (he doesn't know if it's related to moisture or not)
Fortunately he still has warranty
Unfortunately the warranty is not with Sony but with a mobile carrier
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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Agree with this method of getting rid of moisture in the camera. Only problem is that a phone that is supposed to be IP58 shouldn't get water in it so you have to dry it out every time it gets wet. I'm going to try and return my phone again and get another replacement.
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Agree with this method of getting rid of moisture in the camera. Only problem is that a phone that is supposed to be IP58 shouldn't get water in it so you have to dry it out every time it gets wet. I'm going to try and return my phone again and get another replacement.
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of course my friend this is defective device and do keep pictures of the defects as a proof and return it
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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As I said, it's my friend's phone (Z1), not mine. I have a Z2. He took it to warranty and he didn't mention anything about moisture in the camera or hair dryer.
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of course my friend this is defective device and do keep pictures of the defects as a proof and return it
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I agree with your assessment as the device being defective. I know that the hatches were closed and that coupled with the IP58 leads to the conclusion that it's defective if water got in some how. But here's the rub - although the onus should be on the vendor to bear the burden of proof, manufacturers of these devices have covered their backsides by not adjusting their warranty terms to allow coverage of water damage even though they market the devices as waterproof and water resistant. How can they do that? Well they design in an "out" for themselves by putting hatches on the things. Suddenly, they shift the burden of proof to us consumers.
My first device sucked in water like a sponge. Proving this on film was an easy match as you could see bubbles pouring out of it as water poured in.
My second device showed no problems in the same test over about 5 mins in a pitcher of water. Then after a day at the waterpark, the lens fogged over. I dried it our in rice and redid the water pitcher test - nothing. I even left it in the water for a good 15 hours and it kept working and showed no fog on the lens. Then, hours later as I began using it again and a temperature differential arose between the air in the phone and the temp outside, it fogged over, proving that a drop or two of water got in some how.
So now I'm in a bind. The phone keeps working through all the tests I put it through and water invasion is so slight that it only shows up in use after taking it out of water and comes and goes. Still, as soon as I take it to the pool or lake, I won't be able to rely on the camera working right. Catch-22.
Hope someone can help me, but I got this on my phone and I hope I can fix it.
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Hope someone can help me, but I got this on my phone and I hope I can fix it.
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Hey,
As what I've seen in the tear down videos, the plastic corner is part of the entire inner body, and if you want it fixed, the entire phone must be dissembled and the inner body replaced with a new one. If you do this in a uncertified repair shop, you can forget about water resistant part of the phone specifications. The metal part by my opinion can be replaced without full phone disassembly.
Actually I dropped mine with a tpu case, and I can see a small deformation on the metal part only too.. (on almost the same place like yours)
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Hey,
As what I've seen in the tear down videos, the plastic corner is part of the entire inner body, and if you want it fixed, the entire phone must be dissembled and the inner body replaced with a new one. If you do this in a uncertified repair shop, you can forget about water resistant part of the phone specifications. The metal part by my opinion can be replaced without full phone disassembly.
Actually I dropped mine with a tpu case, and I can see a small deformation on the metal part only too.. (on almost the same place like yours)
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That sounds expensive
If your phone was to say "brake" due to manufacture fault and you take your phone back to where you got it, you might just get a replacement. Wink wink.
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If your phone was to say "brake" due to manufacture fault and you take your phone back to where you got it, you might just get a replacement. Wink wink.
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thats too late when it has already fell to the ground, with marks like that there will be straight no.
Its not Sony's fault you dropped it, and they dont know if it was "broken" before the fall or not, thus they wont replace it.
I am not saying it is like this all around the world, but we operate by these guidelines where i work, and they are provided by Sony, and thats what I know.
Heya.
I have same problem with my 6683. Any idea where I can find an inner metal frame for it so I can change it myself, or with someone from London, which I assume I'll find here, on XDA Developers forum and wants to give it a try, or has already done this magic before?
Cheers.
Actually, corners are sold separately, depends on where you shop. I know witrigs.com has them, 4 corners for a set.
can the 4 corner parts be replaced without damaging water resist
Witrigs sells the whole frame for 17 USD. It's listed as "OEM Middle Frame Replacement for Sony Xperia Z5 Premium COLOR". I ordered mine and couldnt be happier with it, my phone looks brand new
They also sell the corners but they're about 4 USD, so the full frame is a better value.
Thank you
I already purchased some parts for another phone and they came fast enough. I enjoyed the experience with them and I'm pleased to recommend as a trustful company.
Now, I just need to save some money to repair all my phones owned in the last years.
Hopefully, soon we won't be needing them -
now-you-can-protect-your-phone-from-falls-with-this-airbag-case-that-pops .