For all the "it's too big" and "it's too slippery" and other gripes she gave me when I got my G2 back in February..........her Galaxy Nexus has become entirely too unreliable. I finally convinced her to check out phones for an upgrade and to just lose the unlimited data. So we went and looked today, and not wanting to pay much, there were three options. Droid Ultra, Moto X, and G2. After playing, and some more touting of the G2 by me, she bit. So we've got a white and black one in the house now. Can't beat that, got both for free.
Now to get her to bite off on letting me root it.
I would recommend rooting if she doesn't know what she does and what she can do... bricking a device is really easy, so be carefull with that. I'm not saying that she will mess up the whole device but it's fairly easy to break something ( I did mistakes with my G2 but now everything is working fine and I'm a "noob")
I hope she enjoys her G2 as we do !
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I would recommend rooting if she doesn't know what she does and what she can do... bricking a device is really easy, so be carefull with that. I'm not saying that she will mess up the whole device but it's fairly easy to break something ( I did mistakes with my G2 but now everything is working fine and I'm a "noob")
I hope she enjoys her G2 as we do !
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She doesn't tend to tinker with things. I would prefer to root and debloat it, titanium backup and adaway, and G2Xposed so she can get some buttons back to how here GNex was set up. Just better functionality and no bloat. She won't tinker with settings or anything so I know that's safe.
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For all the "it's too big" and "it's too slippery" and other gripes she gave me when I got my G2 back in February..........her Galaxy Nexus has become entirely too unreliable. I finally convinced her to check out phones for an upgrade and to just lose the unlimited data. So we went and looked today, and not wanting to pay much, there were three options. Droid Ultra, Moto X, and G2. After playing, and some more touting of the G2 by me, she bit. So we've got a white and black one in the house now. Can't beat that, got both for free.
Now to get her to bite off on letting me root it.
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So, does she charge good now?
You gotta change the title heading man!
From experience I would also suggest you get a case, its the best phone for the price but the screen is very fragile when it comes to edge impacts, the Spigen Slim Armor is probably the best in value and for protection.
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For all the "it's too big" and "it's too slippery" and other gripes she gave me when I got my G2 back in February..........her Galaxy Nexus has become entirely too unreliable. I finally convinced her to check out phones for an upgrade and to just lose the unlimited data. So we went and looked today, and not wanting to pay much, there were three options. Droid Ultra, Moto X, and G2. After playing, and some more touting of the G2 by me, she bit. So we've got a white and black one in the house now. Can't beat that, got both for free.
Now to get her to bite off on letting me root it.
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good one, she will love it, batterylife and screen real estate. Plus rootable and a lot of nice custom roms.
Dont know the prices over there for a phone with contract vs sim only, but its definitely not free
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So, does she charge good now?
You gotta change the title heading man!
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I was going to go with "Are you eligible for the early upgrade plan to upgrade to a younger wife in 6 months?"
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I would recommend rooting if she doesn't know what she does and what she can do... bricking a device is really easy, so be carefull with that. I'm not saying that she will mess up the whole device but it's fairly easy to break something ( I did mistakes with my G2 but now everything is working fine and I'm a "noob")
I hope she enjoys her G2 as we do !
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I got a question: how is bricking a device really easy?
In all my years of Android modding I have seen very few instances of a truly "bricked" device. Can you mess it up and bootloop and stuff? Yes but that is not "bricked".
The phone doesn't need root - not for general use. Stock has everything and it's beautiful.
If you root her phone for your own pleasure, it will come back and haunt you.
Root only if she becomes specifically interested in something that requires root.
Root requires maintenance and she'll have to learn to do it on her own, otherwise your just messing with her freedom and introducing control issues where they may do damage!
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I had the Nexus 5 and sold it for the G2. After a few weeks a friend got and G2 as my recommendation ...3 days ago another friend put his HTC One on sale because he want the G2
This is a great phone, my favorite so far!
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I got a question: how is bricking a device really easy?
In all my years of Android modding I have seen very few instances of a truly "bricked" device. Can you mess it up and bootloop and stuff? Yes but that is not "bricked".
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mostly by rooting and ota, unclean installs or custom recovery and doing an ota. That last one is definitely a brick causer.
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mostly by rooting and ota, unclean installs or custom recovery and doing an ota. That last one is definitely a brick causer.
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The one thing I have run into is the miss use of the term "bricked" although it may have changed over the years. The term "bricked" used to refer to a state in which a device doesn't turn on and does not respond to fastboot or adb commands. If a devices powers on or will respond to fastboot/adb commands then it is not truly bricked. Its just messed up.
Just my 2 cents.
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The one thing I have run into is the miss use of the term "bricked" although it may have changed over the years. The term "bricked" used to refer to a state in which a device doesn't turn on and does not respond to fastboot or adb commands. If a devices powers on or will respond to fastboot/adb commands then it is not truly bricked. Its just messed up.
Just my 2 cents.
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to me, and many users is a brick is when its in un usable state.
Hard brick is almost always non recoverable. Not many seen on g2 as of yet.
soft brick is usually fixed by factory reset/reflash/wiping cache/dalvik. Like when you need to reset partitions when doing ota and on custom recovery.
whatever my 2 cents
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The one thing I have run into is the miss use of the term "bricked" although it may have changed over the years. The term "bricked" used to refer to a state in which a device doesn't turn on and does not respond to fastboot or adb commands. If a devices powers on or will respond to fastboot/adb commands then it is not truly bricked. Its just messed up.
Just my 2 cents.
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Todays XDA crowd thinks "bricked" means "it doesn't work exactly like it did previously".
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Todays XDA crowd thinks "bricked" means "it doesn't work exactly like it did previously".
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Exactly term is used very loosely.
Back on topic I would not root my wife/girlfriends device. She won't need root.
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The phone doesn't need root - not for general use. Stock has everything and it's beautiful.
If you root her phone for your own pleasure, it will come back and haunt you.
Root only if she becomes specifically interested in something that requires root.
You have been told.
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would also suggest you get a case, its the best phone for the price
It's a great idea ! It's what I use actually on my G2. Just some xposed modules (G2 Skin Tweaks, G2 Xposed, Instagram downloader and SnapColors) and Viper4Android which is really nice!
Oh and, I really don't wanted to offend you or something,.. It's just I think that having root isn't for everyone (my personal pov)
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I got a question: how is bricking a device really easy?
In all my years of Android modding I have seen very few instances of a truly "bricked" device. Can you mess it up and bootloop and stuff? Yes but that is not "bricked".
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I know I didn't used the term correctly, I was reffering to soft-brick. Let's imagine that someone who doesn't know anything about root, custom recoveries and all that stuff that makes android ... well, android, wants to debloat his phone and just delete everything he/she doesn't use and get a bootloop. What is the first reaction ? "omg my phone doesn't turn on!! What am I supposed to do now ?!"
This person would think it's dead and there's nothing that can repair the phone...
I wanted to convert all my friends to root, to experience the real magic of android but then realized that if they don't know what they are doing, it would be more of a nightmare than a "dream", to really customize the phone to their needs.
Sure, I could root, install a custom recovery, and do the magic for them (thanks to all devs on xda) but if they have a problem, they rely on me for solving the issue and I don't really want that pressure, because I don't know what they did to their phones and I just can't manage this...
Sorry for the off-topic.
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It's a great idea ! It's what I use actually on my G2. Just some xposed modules (G2 Skin Tweaks, G2 Xposed, Instagram downloader and SnapColors) and Viper4Android which is really nice!
Oh and, I really don't wanted to offend you or something,.. It's just I think that having root isn't for everyone (my personal pov)
I know I didn't used the term correctly, I was reffering to soft-brick. Let's imagine that someone who doesn't know anything about root, custom recoveries and all that stuff that makes android ... well, android, wants to debloat his phone and just delete everything he/she doesn't use and get a bootloop. What is the first reaction ? "omg my phone doesn't turn on!! What am I supposed to do now ?!"
This person would think it's dead and there's nothing that can repair the phone...
I wanted to convert all my friends to root, to experience the real magic of android but then realized that if they don't know what they are doing, it would be more of a nightmare than a "dream", to really customize the phone to their needs.
Sure, I could root, install a custom recovery, and do the magic for them (thanks to all devs on xda) but if they have a problem, they rely on me for solving the issue and I don't really want that pressure, because I don't know what they did to their phones and I just can't manage this...
Sorry for the off-topic.
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lol the term brick is not really important. You know what is meant with soft or hardbrick as I explained.
In the end it depends what your wife wants.
There are many adventages to root. like being able to use an add blocker. Or increase the sound by messing with mixer files.
loss of warrantee/security is a risk that can be excepted.
Root is also needed for custom recovery and backup of efs. Its also needed for custom roms naturally. These custom roms have their own advantages, over the loss of stock apps. The gain possibly better performance, greater customizability. But also more risk of issues, as most likely people get the latest beta versions.
the lg g2 is really a great phone and first where I didn't really need to do all these things. so it depends on what your wife wants.
Converted my wife to a G2
I really understood it in another way, haha
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My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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You can tell him that he can get rid of ads in apps if he roots the phone. I bet he thinks that they're annoying too.
Don't bother, he doesn't need root.
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Don't bother, he doesn't need root.
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HAHAHAHA!! Good one.
bee mcfly said:
My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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Why do you want to force him to root?
It's his phone, he's happy and that is his choice.
I rooted the sh*t out of my SGS 1 because the stock firmware had a lot of issues, and only after 2 years of community development I'd say that the various homebrew ROMs and kernels reached a level of maturity, performance and stability which allowed an overall smooth experience.
With the SGS 3 at the moment i'm super happy with stock firmware, for now i'll keep on monitoring the community developments and i'll root it when i'll feel it's the right time.
ROOT = NO until root is required its not a go faster must have toy .
If he wants to carry out certain operations that require root then yes but its the height on noobness to root for no reason .Root voids warranty .
jje
The main reason is to do a proper backup of apps before flashing new firmware using titanium
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JJEgan said:
ROOT = NO until root is required its not a go faster must have toy .
If he wants to carry out certain operations that require root then yes but its the height on noobness to root for no reason .Root voids warranty .
jje
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I totally agree, too much **** could go horribly wrong if someone who is clueless about Android has root.
If he wants to learn himself all well and good but in this situation he is better off without it.
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steal his mobile for few minutes and root it and give your friend a surprise
You can't force him to root. Don't worry, if he feels the urge he will. It's human nature .
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Stock ROM is sufficient. No need to root
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Respect Your Friends
If it really is your best friend, then be a good friend and see the situation from his perspective, not just your own. As he sees it, rooting is an unnecessary complication that may bring risk, and from his point of view, he is right.
I rooted my new tablet only after I realized I needed to because there were things I wanted to do that required rooting. Along with that, I set myself up to restore the tablet to its original condition if anything went wrong. I am an experienced Unix/Linux system administrator, and the decision to root the device was not one I made quickly, without learning as much as I could about rooting, and thinking it through. I would never try to talk anyone else into doing it, and it would bother me if a good friend rooted their device just to copy me, or because it was "a cool thing to do."
Instead of trying to manipulate your friend into doing something to make you happy, make sure you are doing it to benefit him, and not cause problems in his life. If you consider all of the possible consequences, that may be harder than you think. ;-)
Having said all that, if you still want to continue with your idea, here is a plan: Make a list of all the additional things you can do with a rooted device, and think about the added value. It's not hard to get a list of apps that require a rooted device, and there are even websites with articles like, "Top 15 Apps That Require Rooting." Then show your friend how the apps are run, and show how easy it is, and that it is 99% safe. Also, if he ends up in the 1%, make sure he can recover his device and explain that to him.
If he still doesn't want to do it, leave him alone. Repeat the following until you can say it easily: "OK, I respect your decision."
And if you can say that and mean it, you will have maximized the chance that sometime in the future, he will decide to root, after making the decision on his own, not because someone pushed him into it.
some people is scared of this rooting thing coz, they r afraid to void their warranty. We all know it's not true but people will always be like that.
1. Take the trouble to educate him on the real risk of root, which is pretty much none.
2. Make sure he has a desire to control and make his device the way the wants it to be.
If #2 is not valid. You can leave him alone, and from time to time, show him how awesome root can be. He will have to convince himself to do it. Don't put it upon yourself to force him to it. Root & modification generated experiences varies from people to people.
Connect a Ps3 controller and play something like Nova 3 on Tv to show the possibilities of Rooting.
I agree with others if he doesn't want to root don't force him, I only rooted my old gt540 because the phone was stuck on 2.1 and I wanted GB currently I have no reason to root my GS3 but I will when I need to.
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Connect a Ps3 controller and play something like Nova 3 on Tv to show the possibilities of Rooting.
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That's IF you can get your hands in the right Hdmi cable..I've spent over 100 dollars ordering 2 different Hdmi mhl adapters now trying to find the right one. Crossing my fingers that the current one I have ordered will work.
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Honestly if I was forced to I could do without almost everything that needs Root, but if I saw a phone that couldn't use Titanium Backup I just don't think I'd buy it because picking that App is a no Brainer, and I've known a load of people who have lost a f**k load of data because they had no backups so I offer to temporarily Root then Unroot to make them the occasional backup.
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some people is scared of this rooting thing coz, they r afraid to void their warranty. We all know it's not true but people will always be like that.
1. Take the trouble to educate him on the real risk of root, which is pretty much none.
2. Make sure he has a desire to control and make his device the way the wants it to be.
If #2 is not valid. You can leave him alone, and from time to time, show him how awesome root can be. He will have to convince himself to do it. Don't put it upon yourself to force him to it. Root & modification generated experiences varies from people to people.
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Please replace word root with jesus and you'll see how patronizing this sounds
Sormus said:
Please replace word root with jesus and you'll see how patronizing this sounds
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Lolololol
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Thanks y'all. Kinda realized that leaving someone with a rooted phone is worse than not rooting at all. It's like buying a teen Sports car setting it up, and leaving him unattended. Plus he likes touchwiz soI guess I'll leave him be.
How close are we to gaining S-off/root? The only threads that are being posted in in the past 2 weeks are the rom threads, and those are for the unlocked phones only.
So, how close are we to getting our phones rooted and such?
Method320 said:
How close are we to gaining S-off/root? The only threads that are being posted in in the past 2 weeks are the rom threads, and those are for the unlocked phones only.
So, how close are we to getting our phones rooted and such?
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don't know, this is like beating a dead horse.
we will know once it happens, blame verizon
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we will know once it happens, blame verizon
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YEP, what? we've been locked now for 2 months or more. just can't see the reasoning behind it, i think they want this phone dead.
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we will know once it happens, blame verizon
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So there's literally nothing that can happen until verizon allows s-off? I'm probably completely incorrect in thinking this so correct me if so but, isn't s-off just unlocking the bootloader? Motorola phones always have their bootloader locked, but they have plenty of roms available, as well as root...
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So there's literally nothing that can happen until verizon allows s-off? I'm probably completely incorrect in thinking this so correct me if so but, isn't s-off just unlocking the bootloader? Motorola phones always have their bootloader locked, but they have plenty of roms available, as well as root...
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no unlocking does not give s-off, but when unlocked you can flash roms and kernels using adb, you can't flash radios though. with s-off you don't need to use adb or a computer to flash, and you can flash anything
basicly all you need adb for is to flash the boot.img of the rom after flashing with recovery
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So there's literally nothing that can happen until verizon allows s-off? I'm probably completely incorrect in thinking this so correct me if so but, isn't s-off just unlocking the bootloader? Motorola phones always have their bootloader locked, but they have plenty of roms available, as well as root...
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Verizon will never give s-off.
there is hope they allow us htc dev unlock back and as soon as that happens, s-off will come with it shortly after
there no saying "how close" one is to cracking an exploit...
I'm happy knowing that someone is indeed working on it though.
Yeah I'd probably be tempted to switch to the Razr M as soon as it gets root. I'd love to stick with this incredible though. It's like the only form factors I enjoy are locked tighter than ever
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Yeah I'd probably be tempted to switch to the Razr M as soon as it gets root. I'd love to stick with this incredible though. It's like the only form factors I enjoy are locked tighter than ever
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Im sure it's only a matter of time.
Right?
This phone is slowly dying and it sucks... I shut mine off and turned my rezound back on because of no root... It's not looking good for the inc4G community especially if something don't happen soon... Because in another month this device will be considered old...then nobody will but it. Keep your fingers crossed tho maybe someone will figure it out
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This phone is slowly dying and it sucks... I shut mine off and turned my rezound back on because of no root... It's not looking good for the inc4G community especially if something don't happen soon... Because in another month this device will be considered old...then nobody will but it. Keep your fingers crossed tho maybe someone will figure it out
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It just doesnt make sense. The inc2 (my previous phone) had s-off, why keep the inc4g so locked down?
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It just doesnt make sense. The inc2 (my previous phone) had s-off, why keep the inc4g so locked down?
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Yea it doesn't make sense, it flat out pisses me off as I'm sure the rest of you guys. I don't have the damn phone, but I really want it for the form factor that it is and phablet that it's not. I mean, hell the guys over on the gsiii got that unlocked, not sure if it was VZ or the developers over there but it's rocking and rolling, no reason why they shouldn't allow us the same.
Even their stupid data plans are out now which make it so convenient to share your data, legally tether in other words, so it's not like were just looking to root it to take advantage of their phones. The Crapple 5 is on the shelf, so what's the hold up VZ. Sorry just frustrated with those clowns at VZ.
Thankfully the OG Dinc guys are still hard at work dev and that allows me to run with JB on my outdated ride but if she goes up in smoke, I gotta real dilemma, lol..
I'm glad to see folks are still trying to work on it here, this could be a hell of a phone and forum if you guys crack this mother
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Yea it doesn't make sense, it flat out pisses me off as I'm sure the rest of you guys. I don't have the damn phone, but I really want it for the form factor that it is and phablet that it's not. I mean, hell the guys over on the gsiii got that unlocked, not sure if it was VZ or the developers over there but it's rocking and rolling, no reason why they shouldn't allow us the same.
Even their stupid data plans are out now which make it so convenient to share your data, legally tether in other words, so it's not like were just looking to root it to take advantage of their phones. The Crapple 5 is on the shelf, so what's the hold up VZ. Sorry just frustrated with those clowns at VZ.
Thankfully the OG Dinc guys are still hard at work dev and that allows me to run with JB on my outdated ride but if she goes up in smoke, I gotta real dilemma, lol..
I'm glad to see folks are still trying to work on it here, this could be a hell of a phone and forum if you guys crack this mother
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The main problem is the device isn't getting any attention from devs... Which means its not high on the list to unlock it... Inc 2 got lucky because it came out with froyo and a lot of exploits were already made for it... Ics is a ***** to crack
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Does all this crying really help out the cause? This is an amazing phone. I left my rooted Dinc to come to this phone. It has a better camera,processor, sound, and 4" screen that is better and still fits in my pocket.
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Does all this crying really help out the cause? This is an amazing phone. I left my rooted Dinc to come to this phone. It has a better camera,processor, sound, and 4" screen that is better and still fits in my pocket.
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Well i think everyone is just venting, from frustration, it's all cool
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Does all this crying really help out the cause? This is an amazing phone. I left my rooted Dinc to come to this phone. It has a better camera,processor, sound, and 4" screen that is better and still fits in my pocket.
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I love the phone. It's absolutely better than my original Incredible, but I would love this phone all that much more if I could root it. I don't care about S-OFF or unlocked bootloader as much as having root and being able to do some of the stuff I could on my Incredible. Like Andy has said, as soon as we get any form of root, even temp root, we'll have S-OFF. We just need that little step first.
I gotta say I feel really bad for you guys. I was strongly considering this phone, even though I pre-ordered a GS3 to keep my unlimited data in tact. I planned to either sell the GS3 on eBay or exchange it for the Dinc 4G but I ended up sticking with the GS3 out of laziness. I was jealous that you guys had an unlocked bootloader from launch but what a dirty move on Verizon's part making HTC take it down. Really horrible.
So I've been following progress here ever since. I'm glad there are people doing work on it, as perhaps someday I'll have the upgrade I originally wanted; one I can comfortably hold. I basically have to two-hand this thing.
Here's to hope for the future!
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I gotta say I feel really bad for you guys. I was strongly considering this phone, even though I pre-ordered a GS3 ...snip... I basically have to two-hand this thing.
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^ That is exactly why I wanted the Dinc4g. The signal is solid, it's very fast - both processor and 4G internet ...and it fits in my pocket nicely.
it. just. needs. root.
It maybe because there is no htcdev unlock too. I plan on getting this phone, but my upgrade isn't for awhile. I'm confident it will get s-off soon, but i'll enjoy my S-OFF Inc2 until this phone is S-OFF.
even though this phone is pretty nice i wouldn't pick it up down the road... it's a ghost town for forums and with no root and half the apps not utilizing the google intended extended menu there is a black bar a lot of the time using the app. If you want something small and locked down the Razr M smacks this around i think. I'm tempted to go to it just for the soft keys alone.
This is just sad!!!
LG makes awesome devices, the G2 is one of the best devices available now, great hardware, great screen yet no devs or users buy it. I know its like the chicken and the egg, but still, its wired not a lot of people buy it.
HTC has S-OFF and locked bootloader, Samsung also has now that stup!d KNOX, Sony and Moto makes pretty bad devices, why devs don't develop for LG devices?!?! Why?!?!
Because no one has unlocked the G2 bootloader.
Also, it is not a popular phone.
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Because no one has unlocked the G2 bootloader.
Also, it is not a popular phone.
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I'm talking about LG in general. The Optimus G doesn't have a lot of roms.
Their phones are not popular, but they are awesome phones!
This thread was with rhetorical questions, I know this is the situation and all that, I wanted to create a discussion about this subject
Is there anyone actively looking for exploits in our bootloader?
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I do think I heard some people on the G2 IRC (freenode #lg-g2) are attempting, but I am not certain if this is true.
Anyhoo, no progress has been made currently.
Ha... because its been out for just over a week. AND in the first week we already have root.
Jeeeeeeeesh!
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Ha... because its been out for just over a week. AND in the first week we already have root.
Jeeeeeeeesh!
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Go Bucks!!!!
Everyone that's demanding development/boot loader unlock...first its only been a week since the phone was released...what did you expect every dev to go out and buy a g2...next why don't you go try to learn all the complexities that are involved in the process...just cause there's no news been made public doesn't mean things aren't being worked on. The appropriate individuals will say something when the time is right..whenever the exploit/exploits are done is when they're done...don't rush our devs, make stupid posts, and pointless threads as that will just piss some of them off...that being said things are in the works, just be patient.
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Speaking of the bootloader, is there a button combo that can be used to access it? Or is there no such option on this phone. This is my first LG device so I'm feeling a bit like a fish out of water.
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I suspect that Development will come once ppl realize the Note 3 is gonna be locked down pretty hard (might take as long as the first OTA to kill any exploits like the S4). Just give it time.. VZN ppl will want a Nexus 5 like device and the LG G2 will be the closest thing hardware wise to it. Just don't expect crazy dev like a flagship Samsung device or the Moto X but there should be some in the near future.
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I suspect that Development will come once ppl realize the Note 3 is gonna be locked down pretty hard (might take as long as the first OTA to kill any exploits like the S4). Just give it time.. VZN ppl will want a Nexus 5 like device and the LG G2 will be the closest thing hardware wise to it. Just don't expect crazy dev like a flagship Samsung device or the Moto X but there should be some in the near future.
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+1. If nobody knew any better they would believe it was a Nexus 5 just from looking at screen, and the LG emblem. Oh yeah, the N5 is shipping with the same hardware...hmm um Verizon LG N5 *cough cough G2*. Development will come and when it does just root. CM. And Verizon N5 . Clearly LG is learning from their Google Nexus 4 and thats what we see in the G2, lets see the difference when the N5 comes out i bet they will be virtually identical, aesthetics and hardware wise, obviously not the software.
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Speaking of the bootloader, is there a button combo that can be used to access it? Or is there no such option on this phone. This is my first LG device so I'm feeling a bit like a fish out of water.
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The closest I know, and I dont think it's bootloader, is Volume up and plugging in USB. It brings up a download/firmware upgrade screen, which is also where you can see the Rooted boot flag displayed.
There mere fact that we have root (AND got rid of carrier ID) is indicative that development is happening.
Be patient folks
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The closest I know, and I dont think it's bootloader, is Volume up and plugging in USB. It brings up a download/firmware upgrade screen, which is also where you can see the Rooted boot flag displayed.
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Yeah that's all I've found so far too. Well that and I did stumble on our hidden diagnostics screen. (##228378 in dialer). There is a field test mode there. Doubt it'll come into play for anything but never know I guess.
You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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Everyone that's demanding development/boot loader unlock...first its only been a week since the phone was released...what did you expect every dev to go out and buy a g2...next why don't you go try to learn all the complexities that are involved in the process...just cause there's no news been made public doesn't mean things aren't being worked on. The appropriate individuals will say something when the time is right..whenever the exploit/exploits are done is when they're done...don't rush our devs, make stupid posts, and pointless threads as that will just piss some of them off...that being said things are in the works, just be patient.
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I don't think he was 'rushing' the devs.. Just asking why there's not much development on LG devices. But yeah, its only been out for a week, and it does seem like an awesome phone. It already has root, just give it time.
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You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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The Samsung fanboy is strong in that one. He completely blew things out of proportion, like come on, a font bug?! Then he left out how the camera was, just pointing out he got a bad auto image once. Then you read the S4 review and its like God handed it to him himself
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You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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The Samsung fanboy is strong in that one. He completely blew things out of proportion, like come on, a font bug?! Then he left out how the camera was, just pointing out he got a bad auto image once. Then you read the S4 review and its like God handed it to him himself
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At least some ppl are keeping him honest :good:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1mkkho/review_lgs_g2_smartphone_gets_caught_living_in/
I hate to bust people's bubble but I've been around Android and its development community (XDA) a long time and from my experience I'm going to say once a phone lacks any development at the beginning, it usually stays that way to the bitter end. Development won't magically just pick up.
It's just an unfortunate part of being in a crowded phone market with HTC, Samsung and even Sony. Developers rather develop for the more popular headsets and the LG will be on the outside looking in.
I'm not going to sugar coat this, if you bought this phone for development I suggest you return it while you have a return window, cause development....it's not going to happen.
If you fell in love with the G2 phone I suggest you wait for the Nexus version of it and then you're going to have a real development community.
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I hate to bust people's bubble but I've been around Android and its development community (XDA) a long time and from my experience I'm going to say once a phone lacks any development at the beginning, it usually stays that way to the bitter end. Development won't magically just pick up.
It's just an unfortunate part of being in a crowded phone market with HTC, Samsung and even Sony. Developers rather develop for the more popular headsets and the LG will be on the outside looking in.
I'm not going to sugar coat this, if you bought this phone for development I suggest you return it while you have a return window, cause development....it's not going to happen.
If you fell in love with the G2 phone I suggest you wait for the Nexus version of it and then you're going to have a real development community.
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John Snow, I didnt know you had a computer in the North? There are several developers who are trying/finding the best way to unlock the bootloader, what exactly did you expect the developers to do within a week without an unlocked bootloader? Yes, some developers go for only the big devices, and guess what, this is one. You seem to know nothing about anything around here, so dont go spreading lies.
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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I'm going to venture to guess that the process will be entirely too long and tedious for someone not well versed to follow and could potential end in disaster. The phone isn't bricked since the main recovery menu pops up. I'd suggest looking on craigslist for someone locally to help you guys out. Unless someone here can offer a quick fix, i'd much rather you find someone that has experience to fix this in person. Sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for but that would probably be your best bet
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hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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UPDATE
Thank you for your responses! Much appreciated. Believe it or not - this kid fixed it all by himself. Basically (remember I am not technical) he unlocked the boot loader then flashed a ROM onto an SD card and was able to load. Don't think I worded correctly - but it's fixed and working fine. WHEW!!
I will certainly keep the info to this forum handy because something tells me that I will be visiting again with this child..................
Have a great evening!!
p.s. I typed the wrong key -- he's 12 not 11
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Thank you for your responses! Much appreciated. Believe it or not - this kid fixed it all by himself. Basically (remember I am not technical) he unlocked the boot loader then flashed a ROM onto an SD card and was able to load. Don't think I worded correctly - but it's fixed and working fine. WHEW!!
I will certainly keep the info to this forum handy because something tells me that I will be visiting again with this child..................
Have a great evening!!
p.s. I typed the wrong key -- he's 12 not 11
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I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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Me too! Im 14 now.
The M8 is my first android phone and custom roms seem to get better and better.
The phone was not "bricked", and you are using the term improperly. Your son simply did something to make the phone unable to boot into the Android operating system. This state is usually easy to recover from, as long as the proper steps are known. So that is not a brick.
Itis of course your choice whether to let your kid modify (mod) your phone in such ways. And part of the modding process is always going to involve some hiccups (for even the most experienced users) and figuring out how to fix them. So I'm glad your son figured it out.
On the other hand, both you and he should be fully aware (if not already) that modding the phone may void the warranty, and also permanent damage (a true "brick") is possible if he doesn't fully understand what he is doing. Such damage is not covered by warranty.
To the OP (original poster), please do not create multiple thread asking the same question.
Its against forum rules, and makes it super confusing for those trying to help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750602
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hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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You got your 11-year-old a $700 smartphone. What did you think would happen? Why in the world does a kid that young even need a smartphone?
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I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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I agree about his technical skills being alot of good and bad! We've had our share with him-- I won't bore you with the lists. My husband is the tech guy (of course he was away on business when this happened) and he understands his quest for knowledge and how much he loves this stuff - -says it's how he learns. Hubby has given him some old laptops and ipods and he sure has fun with those!
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You got your 11-year-old a $700 smartphone. What did you think would happen? Why in the world does a kid that young even need a smartphone?
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I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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Oh, I'm sorry. Are you counting the on contract price? Okay. Well, throw it on the ground or drop it in a pool or give it to a child to ruin. Now go back to the store to get a replacement and see how much it costs. You also signed a contract and took on an extra monthly data plan... For a child. The fact that you have no clue how much the phone actually costs explains a lot, actually.
I'm not concerned about your wallet. You clearly have more money than sense, so rather than crying here, just go buy a replacement phone for him to ruin. While you're at it, go ahead and get him an espresso machine.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Are you counting the on contract price? Okay. Well, throw it on the ground or drop it in a pool or give it to a child to ruin. Now go back to the store to get a replacement and see how much it costs. You also signed a contract and took on an extra monthly data plan... For a child. The fact that you have no clue how much the phone actually costs explains a lot, actually.
I'm not concerned about your wallet. You clearly have more money than sense, so rather than crying here, just go buy a replacement phone for him to ruin. While you're at it, go ahead and get him an espresso machine.
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Seems like she asked a question to a problem and it was answered. I'm not sure how taking a personal shot at a newcomer to the forum accomplishes anything. Her decision to buy her son anything is hers and hers alone, why inject your opinion into it, much less insinuate that she has no sense. It comes off as aloof and petty. This doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. Flame away.
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Seems like she asked a question to a problem and it was answered. I'm not sure how taking a personal shot at a newcomer to the forum accomplishes anything. Her decision to buy her son anything is hers and hers alone, why inject your opinion into it, much less insinuate that she has no sense. It comes off as aloof and petty. This doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. Flame away.
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Thanks a bunch for your support and from all of those who responded. I've visited various forums in my life and am well aware that there are always those few who just like to be mean and find power on these boards. I didn't come here asking for anyone's opinion on what I allow my children to do or how they spend their allowance - just needed some advice. Sincerely appreciate the great input that I have received.
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I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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The actual retail cost of the device is $639; which would also be the replacement cost of this device. The on-contract price of $199 is just a subsidized cost, which the carrier basically spreads over the length of your 2-year contract.
Any one trying to root this phone?
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Any one trying to root this phone?
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I was just looking for this same thing. I ran across a website that shows it can be done, don't know how valid this is though.
Bright future
It seems the G6 is poised for a bright future if it just catches on...
Samsung always takes the cake though
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Samsung always takes the cake though
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I'm wondering if anybody plans on root at all in the future before buying this phone. Don't want it if there's no development on it!
There's nothing. Which is a shame because I would be rocking this thing already
This is the first phone I have gotten that I don't have the need to root
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I like to have AdAway, Folder Mount, Quick Boot, and Xprivacy, which need root.
The lack of root is the only thing keeping me from getting this with the Best Buy deal
Best buy deal was too good to pass up and I got one for a family member coming from an ancient Galaxy S3. Really hoping we see root.
Glad I'm not the only one. I traded in for the V20 but it has to be shipped first and I'd much rather keep the G6.. Awesome phone.
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Best buy deal was too good to pass up and I got one for a family member coming from an ancient Galaxy S3. Really hoping we see root.
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I really want to get it, but the complete lack of discussion about it tells me it's not happening anytime soon.
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I really want to get it, but the complete lack of discussion about it tells me it's not happening anytime soon.
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Agreed. I feel like nothing will ever get root again on verizon unless you buy an unlocked phone for a ton of money or a last year model on swappa - but I always buy new.
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Agreed. I feel like nothing will ever get root again on verizon unless you buy an unlocked phone for a ton of money or a last year model on swappa - but I always buy new.
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I don't know what changed. It seems like there's a new push to lock down Android, it might have to do with Android Pay. It's really a shame. I don't understand the lack of people looking for exploits. Maybe they just aren't posting about it like they used to.
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I don't know what changed. It seems like there's a new push to lock down Android, it might have to do with Android Pay. It's really a shame. I don't understand the lack of people looking for exploits. Maybe they just aren't posting about it like they used to.
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Google has created nearly as much of a "walled-garden" as Apple have. Clearly the "security" concerns of the extreme few have caused quite a panic and nearly all of the major manufacturers have locked down their bootloaders and exploits are being punished legally in some cases. Crazy considering it is all based around "open source" code.
VZW is by far the worse offender and I am only on their network because the others all suck in my area. Not that it matters anymore since practically none of them have rootable devices. Unfortunately the best bet this year is the headphone jackless HTC U11 for a whopping $650 for the unlocked, bootloader mod-allowed version.
Has any one tried Kingo Root?
https://www.kingoapp.com/bootloader-unlock/how-to-unlock-lg-bootloader-on-android-device.htm
I may look into it later this week. I have a few things to try.
What a shame. This phone is fantastic, the LG V20 just showed up for me to pick up and I find myself reluctant to pick it up. I know it has root, as I roofed it for my boyfriend, after extreme difficulty it worked but all the custom ROMs for it made it where he can't receive texts or calls. Haven't gone looking for the fix yet. I may wait.
Crossing my fingers at the above post. You'd be my saving Grace. (;
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Oh and for KingORoot, you need to ask for the OEM unlock code through LG but this phone isn't apart of their available devices. Exploit please!
I fixed his V20, now is rooted with custom ROM and calling and text officially work. Is it enough for me to give up my G6 for root? Still reluctant. Yes, that's how good it is.
Autoprime just posted in the main G6 dev area, it sounds like he is doing a bit of poking at the platform.
It doesn't directly help vs988, but any sign of an experienced developer working the G6 is great.