My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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You can tell him that he can get rid of ads in apps if he roots the phone. I bet he thinks that they're annoying too.
Don't bother, he doesn't need root.
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Don't bother, he doesn't need root.
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HAHAHAHA!! Good one.
bee mcfly said:
My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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Why do you want to force him to root?
It's his phone, he's happy and that is his choice.
I rooted the sh*t out of my SGS 1 because the stock firmware had a lot of issues, and only after 2 years of community development I'd say that the various homebrew ROMs and kernels reached a level of maturity, performance and stability which allowed an overall smooth experience.
With the SGS 3 at the moment i'm super happy with stock firmware, for now i'll keep on monitoring the community developments and i'll root it when i'll feel it's the right time.
ROOT = NO until root is required its not a go faster must have toy .
If he wants to carry out certain operations that require root then yes but its the height on noobness to root for no reason .Root voids warranty .
jje
The main reason is to do a proper backup of apps before flashing new firmware using titanium
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JJEgan said:
ROOT = NO until root is required its not a go faster must have toy .
If he wants to carry out certain operations that require root then yes but its the height on noobness to root for no reason .Root voids warranty .
jje
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I totally agree, too much **** could go horribly wrong if someone who is clueless about Android has root.
If he wants to learn himself all well and good but in this situation he is better off without it.
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steal his mobile for few minutes and root it and give your friend a surprise
You can't force him to root. Don't worry, if he feels the urge he will. It's human nature .
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Stock ROM is sufficient. No need to root
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Respect Your Friends
If it really is your best friend, then be a good friend and see the situation from his perspective, not just your own. As he sees it, rooting is an unnecessary complication that may bring risk, and from his point of view, he is right.
I rooted my new tablet only after I realized I needed to because there were things I wanted to do that required rooting. Along with that, I set myself up to restore the tablet to its original condition if anything went wrong. I am an experienced Unix/Linux system administrator, and the decision to root the device was not one I made quickly, without learning as much as I could about rooting, and thinking it through. I would never try to talk anyone else into doing it, and it would bother me if a good friend rooted their device just to copy me, or because it was "a cool thing to do."
Instead of trying to manipulate your friend into doing something to make you happy, make sure you are doing it to benefit him, and not cause problems in his life. If you consider all of the possible consequences, that may be harder than you think. ;-)
Having said all that, if you still want to continue with your idea, here is a plan: Make a list of all the additional things you can do with a rooted device, and think about the added value. It's not hard to get a list of apps that require a rooted device, and there are even websites with articles like, "Top 15 Apps That Require Rooting." Then show your friend how the apps are run, and show how easy it is, and that it is 99% safe. Also, if he ends up in the 1%, make sure he can recover his device and explain that to him.
If he still doesn't want to do it, leave him alone. Repeat the following until you can say it easily: "OK, I respect your decision."
And if you can say that and mean it, you will have maximized the chance that sometime in the future, he will decide to root, after making the decision on his own, not because someone pushed him into it.
some people is scared of this rooting thing coz, they r afraid to void their warranty. We all know it's not true but people will always be like that.
1. Take the trouble to educate him on the real risk of root, which is pretty much none.
2. Make sure he has a desire to control and make his device the way the wants it to be.
If #2 is not valid. You can leave him alone, and from time to time, show him how awesome root can be. He will have to convince himself to do it. Don't put it upon yourself to force him to it. Root & modification generated experiences varies from people to people.
Connect a Ps3 controller and play something like Nova 3 on Tv to show the possibilities of Rooting.
I agree with others if he doesn't want to root don't force him, I only rooted my old gt540 because the phone was stuck on 2.1 and I wanted GB currently I have no reason to root my GS3 but I will when I need to.
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Connect a Ps3 controller and play something like Nova 3 on Tv to show the possibilities of Rooting.
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That's IF you can get your hands in the right Hdmi cable..I've spent over 100 dollars ordering 2 different Hdmi mhl adapters now trying to find the right one. Crossing my fingers that the current one I have ordered will work.
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Honestly if I was forced to I could do without almost everything that needs Root, but if I saw a phone that couldn't use Titanium Backup I just don't think I'd buy it because picking that App is a no Brainer, and I've known a load of people who have lost a f**k load of data because they had no backups so I offer to temporarily Root then Unroot to make them the occasional backup.
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some people is scared of this rooting thing coz, they r afraid to void their warranty. We all know it's not true but people will always be like that.
1. Take the trouble to educate him on the real risk of root, which is pretty much none.
2. Make sure he has a desire to control and make his device the way the wants it to be.
If #2 is not valid. You can leave him alone, and from time to time, show him how awesome root can be. He will have to convince himself to do it. Don't put it upon yourself to force him to it. Root & modification generated experiences varies from people to people.
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Please replace word root with jesus and you'll see how patronizing this sounds
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Please replace word root with jesus and you'll see how patronizing this sounds
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Lolololol
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Thanks y'all. Kinda realized that leaving someone with a rooted phone is worse than not rooting at all. It's like buying a teen Sports car setting it up, and leaving him unattended. Plus he likes touchwiz soI guess I'll leave him be.
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If you come to a sprint store for service and repair, make sure you remove root files from the phone. I figured this would be common sense by now. But I can't tell you how many rejected repairs we do because of it. I'm sure some stores are more lenient than others. But to avoid a headache and wasted time just remove any trace of root. My store is anal about it. Just tired of noobs arguing with me constantly.
K. I'll bite.
Without S-Off, how can we leave behind root files?
<jk> I know what you are trying to say.
Prove those files mean I'm rooted...
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I don't see why it matters what files I have on my SD card or apks that need root. As long as the phone is not rooted you are in the wrong!
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Stores are no longer supposed to reject phones for being rooted?
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I don't see why it matters what files I have on my SD card or apks that need root.
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The SuperUser apk has a history of all the programs you have listed to remember root privileges. It will only list an apk on the green list if it successfully gave the apk root access. Which means it was rooted, the warranty was void the moment you ran Fre3vo, whether they know it is the question.
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As long as the phone is not rooted you are in the wrong!
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And that really is un-called for. b-reezy clearly has a boss, e.g. doesn't make this decision. Coming on here and posting this warning is a favor to us. Arguing isn't going to change the policy, if it were me, I'd be more interested in keeping my job than pleasing another XDA troll.
I usually just return my phones to stock if I need to go get the phones serviced. Doesnt usually take to long to restore everything back after.
Grow up people. Just put a sock in it if you have nothing sensible to say.
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If you come to a sprint store for service and repair, make sure you remove root files from the phone. I figured this would be common sense by now. But I can't tell you how many rejected repairs we do because of it. I'm sure some stores are more lenient than others. But to avoid a headache and wasted time just remove any trace of root. My store is anal about it. Just tired of noobs arguing with me constantly.
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I think when someone has more thanks than posts that they may just be one of the good guys,Thanks for the heads up. Luckily my sprint store all the dudes are cool and turn a blind eye.
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I think when someone has more thanks than posts that they may just be one of the good guys,Thanks for the heads up. Luckily my sprint store all the dudes are cool and turn a blind eye.
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same here, hell they were amazed at my OG Evo's speed with CM7 on it hahaha...
this is probably a noob question but is it guaranteed that we'll get root on the Rezound eventually? What if Verizon found a way to very effectively lock it down? I would love to pick one of these up but I have this little voice in my head telling me to wait to make sure we can get root first.
There is probably a way. Even if we can't get S-Off that doesn't mean we can't flash stuff.
There will be a way to root it. I guarantee it.
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we should get root but the question is when since the exploits are always covered up on new devices... devs just need a another way in
Even ****ty moto phones with locked BL's have root, this phone will get it once we get more devs in the community. It's been 3 days, I give it 2 weeks and we will at least have Root if not S-Off too.
Just be patient, and don't take any over the air updates in the meantime (usually have to roll back so its just a waste of time). Remember that it took a couple months to get perm root/s off on the Incredible 2. If you need root access before you can get perm root (titanium backup restores, freeze, etc), just follow the instructions in the development section. It is super easy.
Yes, it is indeed one of the noobiest of questions one could possible ask.
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this is probably a noob question but is it guaranteed that we'll get root on the Rezound eventually? What if Verizon found a way to very effectively lock it down? I would love to pick one of these up but I have this little voice in my head telling me to wait to make sure we can get root first.
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The Devs at XDA are smarter than the dudes at VZW and HTC and will root this phone.
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I'm not rooting until a CM9 or pure ICS Rom comes out for the Rezound
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I'm not rooting until a CM9 or pure ICS Rom comes out for the Rezound
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So you're happy with all the bloatware, not being able to backup app data, and not taking advantage of any performance increases available even with a modified stock ROM?
Odd.
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Even ****ty moto phones with locked BL's have root, this phone will get it once we get more devs in the community. It's been 3 days, I give it 2 weeks and we will at least have Root if not S-Off too.
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It took two months with the Incredible. In the Apple world, jailbreak for the Ipad 2 lasted one short window of a OS revision....and the dev that broke it also issued a patch to close the exploit, because it was that serious of a security hole.
Just sayin'...
The iOS jailbreak works different from root. The iPhone has a serious chain of trust that needs to be exploited to even get it to boot after it is jailbroken. Android doesn't have that problem. You cannot compare them. There aren't any tether roots, semi-tethered root, etc. It isn't like if you have a semi-tether on iOS where you modify the system while jailbroken and then try to reboot without the jailbreak it boot loops.
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The iOS jailbreak works different from root. The iPhone has a serious chain of trust that needs to be exploited to even get it to boot after it is jailbroken. Android doesn't have that problem. You cannot compare them. There aren't any tether roots, semi-tethered root, etc. It isn't like if you have a semi-tether on iOS where you modify the system while jailbroken and then try to reboot without the jailbreak it boot loops.
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My point was that the manufacturers are getting more and more ingenious about protecting the core OS.
I see it for them like a two edged sword...they get the benefit of developers out in the wild improving their product and offering more options...for free, even...while on the other hand, in the hands of the inept, roots and jailbreaks offer immense warranty headaches.
I was giving a low end, because I know most devs don't have the phone yet. Doesn't mean I will be disappointed when it doesn't happen.
I do not currently have a solution, just posting my question/idea (that i'm sure someone thought of already but just in case).
Has anyone looked into trying to disable whatever it is that's causing our temp root to stop working after 5 minutes.
I disabled some of the automatic system services that start up, and was able to with the temp root method. Using apps such as "Autostarts (paid)" and "Gemini App Manager" I disabled all the VZW bloat and then some, but still lose root shortly after applying the process. I was wondering if it's possible to find a process (if that's what's causing us to lose root) to disable to allow perm root?
There are a lot of auto-start processes, though I did disable a lot of them, I'm not sure what they all do so I was just guessing. I'm not trying to brick my phone, so if it's not possible to get perm root this way, I'd like to know if I'm wasting my time . If any devs have knowledge or experience with this please feel free to chime in . Thank you.
Not sure about all that, but I was wondering about that whole HTC sponsored root process... whatever happened with that? They promised an official way to root their phones not long back.
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Not sure about all that, but I was wondering about that whole HTC sponsored root process... whatever happened with that? They promised an official way to root their phones not long back.
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They did, but the carrier has the final say. Verizon, wanting to be in control of everything, obviously said no.
I am sure there is a way to game the system and get it working... Internally these phones are basically the same when they use the same SOC.
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I am sure there is a way to game the system and get it working... Internally these phones are basically the same when they use the same SOC.
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True but when htc patches a know exploit, a new one needs to be found. It's takes much skill and time to accomplish that LOL....so
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True... tricking the unlocker to think a phone is a different model is the hard part. Probably best to just hack in anyway.
Wish HTC would be tricky and leave a deliberate backdoor for us with a wink followed by inattentive gaze. Wishful thinking I know...
Of course for security reasons said door would need to be made so that physical access to the device and a computer would be required. Thats the hard bit right there.
As it stands I will probably be picking one of these up on the Amazon penny sale. Unless I choose to go sprint and then get the Galaxy S 2... (more of a fan of HTC devices though so who knows) Dropping t-mobile possibly... unless they give me a darn good reason not to.
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True... tricking the unlocker to think a phone is a different model is the hard part. Probably best to just hack in anyway.
Wish HTC would be tricky and leave a deliberate backdoor for us with a wink followed by inattentive gaze. Wishful thinking I know...
Of course for security reasons said door would need to be made so that physical access to the device and a computer would be required. Thats the hard bit right there.
As it stands I will probably be picking one of these up on the Amazon penny sale. Unless I choose to go sprint and then get the Galaxy S 2... (more of a fan of HTC devices though so who knows) Dropping t-mobile possibly... unless they give me a darn good reason not to.
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Haha, I've often wondered that too. If HTC really is trying to be DEV friendly, but they have to pander to Verizon as well, why keep patching the holes? Why not just leave a hidden backdoor that's not too easy to find, but that a skilled DEV would know where to look?
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Haha, I've often wondered that too. If HTC really is trying to be DEV friendly, but they have to pander to Verizon as well, why keep patching the holes? Why not just leave a hidden backdoor that's not too easy to find, but that a skilled DEV would know where to look?
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So they don't get sued by Verizon. Also they would be losing one of the major carriers of their phones.
There is always a way in, look how many people have bootlegged version of everything.
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So they don't get sued by Verizon. Also they would be losing one of the major carriers of their phones.
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I highly doubt Verizon would have any clue about anything to do with where the code is placed to "patch" a bootloader. Their degree of any form of coding expertise when it comes to these things seems minimal at best.
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So they don't get sued by Verizon. Also they would be losing one of the major carriers of their phones.
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While this is probably true, I also think that if Verizon can sue HTC for making their bottloaders easy to unlock, I should be allowed to sue Verizon for loading my phone up with bloatware and crap apps that I don't need or want and can't remove...
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While this is probably true, I also think that if Verizon can sue HTC for making their bottloaders easy to unlock, I should be allowed to sue Verizon for loading my phone up with bloatware and crap apps that I don't need or want and can't remove...
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I wonder if there's potential for a class action suit for stuff like this. Perhaps if some of the software could be shown to compromise phone security or privacy?
I just hope someone comes up with something soon. An unrooted phone is so worthless I feel. Can't wait to get rid of the bloat ware and customize the phone the way I truly want it.
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Practice patience. It simply takes time and the phone has only been out for a week.
But they already unlocked the Galaxy Nexus...... Lol
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Go get one.haha
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It would be helpful if someone can provide me advice about which phones should and should not be rooted.
ri123 said:
It would be helpful if someone can provide me advice about which phones should and should not be rooted.
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I think root would simply reduce the life of expensive phones, clearly explained by the warning of this page.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/rooting-for-android-what-why-and-how/
Originally Posted by ri123
It would be helpful if someone can provide me advice about which phones should and should not be rooted.
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I think root would simply reduce the life of expensive phones, clearly explained by the warning of this page.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/rooting-for-android-what-why-and-how/
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Why would it reduce the life of expensive phones...?
There is nothing wrong with rooting if you know what you are doing, and ANY Android device should be rooted...or you don't have full control of it
If you do something stupid, then yes your phone is screwed. It said something about the Galaxy S2 and flashing a ROM not made for the specific model (I think). Well that's just common sense.
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Why would it reduce the life of expensive phones...?
There is nothing wrong with rooting if you know what you are doing, and ANY Android device should be rooted...or you don't have full control of it
If you do something stupid, then yes your phone is screwed. It said something about the Galaxy S2 and flashing a ROM not made for the specific model (I think). Well that's just common sense.
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In my experience, it has extended the life of my phone. I have an HD2...purchased the it became available. With a 1ghz processor and 1gb of RAM, it still has decent specs, but if it was stuck on Windows 6.5 I would have had to end of life out a long time ago...but with the great dev support, I had gingerbread on it! Only reason I got the Amaze was that I cracked the screen for z second time after a nasty do, and didn't want to spend another $80 on a 3yr+ old phone.
The hardware was still great, other than my butter fingers. The software and functionality would have been sorely out dated.
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I think root would simply reduce the life of expensive phones, clearly explained by the warning of this page.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/rooting-for-android-what-why-and-how/
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that warning is on every single android rooting/flashing guide
they just dont want to be responsible for breaking a USER's warrenty if they break their phone.
it is also why develoopers say
"Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything that happens if you decide to use
this rom. It could change your life, you might win the lottery or find a
stunning new boyfriend / girlfriend because of this rom. It could also make
your phone explode and burn your house down or cause the apocalypse to come
early (it's not due till the end of the year!).
Flash responsibly."
its nothing. if you need repairs just unroot and you are ok, if your phone dies, then just don't tell you rcarrier you rooted it and it should be ok
For all the "it's too big" and "it's too slippery" and other gripes she gave me when I got my G2 back in February..........her Galaxy Nexus has become entirely too unreliable. I finally convinced her to check out phones for an upgrade and to just lose the unlimited data. So we went and looked today, and not wanting to pay much, there were three options. Droid Ultra, Moto X, and G2. After playing, and some more touting of the G2 by me, she bit. So we've got a white and black one in the house now. Can't beat that, got both for free.
Now to get her to bite off on letting me root it.
I would recommend rooting if she doesn't know what she does and what she can do... bricking a device is really easy, so be carefull with that. I'm not saying that she will mess up the whole device but it's fairly easy to break something ( I did mistakes with my G2 but now everything is working fine and I'm a "noob")
I hope she enjoys her G2 as we do !
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I would recommend rooting if she doesn't know what she does and what she can do... bricking a device is really easy, so be carefull with that. I'm not saying that she will mess up the whole device but it's fairly easy to break something ( I did mistakes with my G2 but now everything is working fine and I'm a "noob")
I hope she enjoys her G2 as we do !
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She doesn't tend to tinker with things. I would prefer to root and debloat it, titanium backup and adaway, and G2Xposed so she can get some buttons back to how here GNex was set up. Just better functionality and no bloat. She won't tinker with settings or anything so I know that's safe.
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For all the "it's too big" and "it's too slippery" and other gripes she gave me when I got my G2 back in February..........her Galaxy Nexus has become entirely too unreliable. I finally convinced her to check out phones for an upgrade and to just lose the unlimited data. So we went and looked today, and not wanting to pay much, there were three options. Droid Ultra, Moto X, and G2. After playing, and some more touting of the G2 by me, she bit. So we've got a white and black one in the house now. Can't beat that, got both for free.
Now to get her to bite off on letting me root it.
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So, does she charge good now?
You gotta change the title heading man!
From experience I would also suggest you get a case, its the best phone for the price but the screen is very fragile when it comes to edge impacts, the Spigen Slim Armor is probably the best in value and for protection.
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For all the "it's too big" and "it's too slippery" and other gripes she gave me when I got my G2 back in February..........her Galaxy Nexus has become entirely too unreliable. I finally convinced her to check out phones for an upgrade and to just lose the unlimited data. So we went and looked today, and not wanting to pay much, there were three options. Droid Ultra, Moto X, and G2. After playing, and some more touting of the G2 by me, she bit. So we've got a white and black one in the house now. Can't beat that, got both for free.
Now to get her to bite off on letting me root it.
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good one, she will love it, batterylife and screen real estate. Plus rootable and a lot of nice custom roms.
Dont know the prices over there for a phone with contract vs sim only, but its definitely not free
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So, does she charge good now?
You gotta change the title heading man!
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I was going to go with "Are you eligible for the early upgrade plan to upgrade to a younger wife in 6 months?"
DizzyMizzy said:
I would recommend rooting if she doesn't know what she does and what she can do... bricking a device is really easy, so be carefull with that. I'm not saying that she will mess up the whole device but it's fairly easy to break something ( I did mistakes with my G2 but now everything is working fine and I'm a "noob")
I hope she enjoys her G2 as we do !
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I got a question: how is bricking a device really easy?
In all my years of Android modding I have seen very few instances of a truly "bricked" device. Can you mess it up and bootloop and stuff? Yes but that is not "bricked".
The phone doesn't need root - not for general use. Stock has everything and it's beautiful.
If you root her phone for your own pleasure, it will come back and haunt you.
Root only if she becomes specifically interested in something that requires root.
Root requires maintenance and she'll have to learn to do it on her own, otherwise your just messing with her freedom and introducing control issues where they may do damage!
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I had the Nexus 5 and sold it for the G2. After a few weeks a friend got and G2 as my recommendation ...3 days ago another friend put his HTC One on sale because he want the G2
This is a great phone, my favorite so far!
zone23 said:
I got a question: how is bricking a device really easy?
In all my years of Android modding I have seen very few instances of a truly "bricked" device. Can you mess it up and bootloop and stuff? Yes but that is not "bricked".
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mostly by rooting and ota, unclean installs or custom recovery and doing an ota. That last one is definitely a brick causer.
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mostly by rooting and ota, unclean installs or custom recovery and doing an ota. That last one is definitely a brick causer.
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The one thing I have run into is the miss use of the term "bricked" although it may have changed over the years. The term "bricked" used to refer to a state in which a device doesn't turn on and does not respond to fastboot or adb commands. If a devices powers on or will respond to fastboot/adb commands then it is not truly bricked. Its just messed up.
Just my 2 cents.
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The one thing I have run into is the miss use of the term "bricked" although it may have changed over the years. The term "bricked" used to refer to a state in which a device doesn't turn on and does not respond to fastboot or adb commands. If a devices powers on or will respond to fastboot/adb commands then it is not truly bricked. Its just messed up.
Just my 2 cents.
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to me, and many users is a brick is when its in un usable state.
Hard brick is almost always non recoverable. Not many seen on g2 as of yet.
soft brick is usually fixed by factory reset/reflash/wiping cache/dalvik. Like when you need to reset partitions when doing ota and on custom recovery.
whatever my 2 cents
zone23 said:
The one thing I have run into is the miss use of the term "bricked" although it may have changed over the years. The term "bricked" used to refer to a state in which a device doesn't turn on and does not respond to fastboot or adb commands. If a devices powers on or will respond to fastboot/adb commands then it is not truly bricked. Its just messed up.
Just my 2 cents.
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Todays XDA crowd thinks "bricked" means "it doesn't work exactly like it did previously".
khaytsus said:
Todays XDA crowd thinks "bricked" means "it doesn't work exactly like it did previously".
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Exactly term is used very loosely.
Back on topic I would not root my wife/girlfriends device. She won't need root.
kolembo said:
The phone doesn't need root - not for general use. Stock has everything and it's beautiful.
If you root her phone for your own pleasure, it will come back and haunt you.
Root only if she becomes specifically interested in something that requires root.
You have been told.
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would also suggest you get a case, its the best phone for the price
It's a great idea ! It's what I use actually on my G2. Just some xposed modules (G2 Skin Tweaks, G2 Xposed, Instagram downloader and SnapColors) and Viper4Android which is really nice!
Oh and, I really don't wanted to offend you or something,.. It's just I think that having root isn't for everyone (my personal pov)
zone23 said:
I got a question: how is bricking a device really easy?
In all my years of Android modding I have seen very few instances of a truly "bricked" device. Can you mess it up and bootloop and stuff? Yes but that is not "bricked".
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I know I didn't used the term correctly, I was reffering to soft-brick. Let's imagine that someone who doesn't know anything about root, custom recoveries and all that stuff that makes android ... well, android, wants to debloat his phone and just delete everything he/she doesn't use and get a bootloop. What is the first reaction ? "omg my phone doesn't turn on!! What am I supposed to do now ?!"
This person would think it's dead and there's nothing that can repair the phone...
I wanted to convert all my friends to root, to experience the real magic of android but then realized that if they don't know what they are doing, it would be more of a nightmare than a "dream", to really customize the phone to their needs.
Sure, I could root, install a custom recovery, and do the magic for them (thanks to all devs on xda) but if they have a problem, they rely on me for solving the issue and I don't really want that pressure, because I don't know what they did to their phones and I just can't manage this...
Sorry for the off-topic.
DizzyMizzy said:
It's a great idea ! It's what I use actually on my G2. Just some xposed modules (G2 Skin Tweaks, G2 Xposed, Instagram downloader and SnapColors) and Viper4Android which is really nice!
Oh and, I really don't wanted to offend you or something,.. It's just I think that having root isn't for everyone (my personal pov)
I know I didn't used the term correctly, I was reffering to soft-brick. Let's imagine that someone who doesn't know anything about root, custom recoveries and all that stuff that makes android ... well, android, wants to debloat his phone and just delete everything he/she doesn't use and get a bootloop. What is the first reaction ? "omg my phone doesn't turn on!! What am I supposed to do now ?!"
This person would think it's dead and there's nothing that can repair the phone...
I wanted to convert all my friends to root, to experience the real magic of android but then realized that if they don't know what they are doing, it would be more of a nightmare than a "dream", to really customize the phone to their needs.
Sure, I could root, install a custom recovery, and do the magic for them (thanks to all devs on xda) but if they have a problem, they rely on me for solving the issue and I don't really want that pressure, because I don't know what they did to their phones and I just can't manage this...
Sorry for the off-topic.
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I understand sorry if I was being critical.
khaytsus said:
Todays XDA crowd thinks "bricked" means "it doesn't work exactly like it did previously".
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lol the term brick is not really important. You know what is meant with soft or hardbrick as I explained.
In the end it depends what your wife wants.
There are many adventages to root. like being able to use an add blocker. Or increase the sound by messing with mixer files.
loss of warrantee/security is a risk that can be excepted.
Root is also needed for custom recovery and backup of efs. Its also needed for custom roms naturally. These custom roms have their own advantages, over the loss of stock apps. The gain possibly better performance, greater customizability. But also more risk of issues, as most likely people get the latest beta versions.
the lg g2 is really a great phone and first where I didn't really need to do all these things. so it depends on what your wife wants.
Converted my wife to a G2
I really understood it in another way, haha