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I dont think this has been posted, But here is the latest on the HTC Bootloader unlock
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/03/htc-explains-official-bootloader-unlock-process-asks-you-to-sig/
Yeah that sucks, but what did you really expect? HTC can't be expected to support unlocked phones bc ppl can really screw up their phones if they don't know what they're doing. HTC is only protecting themselves and this was absolutely expected IMHO. Good news article though regardless.
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Thanks for the info, didn't catch that. Please keep in mind next time that this may be an official development for information on the official bootloader unlock, but that does not make it development, this technically belongs in general.
No your right, it wasnt posted in DEVELOPMENT, it IS however posted in GENERAL (where it belongs!)
Hmmm.... Lets see here.
1. Root Phone w/ out HTC.
2. Do whatever you want.
3. Have hardware error and need warranty repair.
4. Back to stock we go!
5. ????
6. Profit!
Umad HTC?
had a feeling that was going to happen but not to sound hard on you this is the development section this should be placed in general section just a heads up
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No your right, it wasnt posted in DEVELOPMENT, it IS however posted in GENERAL (where it belongs!)
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Wow, it got moved really fast! Lol
So what would that do to Sprint insurance if you root with HTC? Does that mean you might as well cancel it or will Sprint still replace?
Do you think HTC knows we already have these devices unlocked. Lol
Although sucks if this is where Androids future is going.
I'm glad that some companys have listened to the community. We asked for them to give us unlocked bootloaders t and they are ACTUALLY delivering. Of course it voids the warranty I'm not suprised at all. Stops *****ing bout it cuz they could've NOT unlocked them and than everything would be the same. Change is good in my opinion.
TANSTAAFL
Makes good sense to me - Archos says the same (or similar) and it hasn't stopped people.
Maybe it'll clear out the riffraff.
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TANSTAAFL
Makes good sense to me - Archos says the same (or similar) and it hasn't stopped people.
Maybe it'll clear out the riffraff.
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Definitely will. We'll have less people coming over to this forum and whining at us because we won't hold their hand through the entire rooting process (although there has been enough of that already anyways), and more time for expansion ROM cooking.
And +1 to easily being able to fool anyone into thinking our warranty isn't void.
Lets be honest here, anyone on this forum would never use the MFW anyways, we are all here for one reason and one reason only. To get the most out of our phones and exploit their capabilities. You technically void your warranty with any other root anyways, so what's the difference? We are all taking a risk at doing anything with our phones in the first place. I can't say I blame HTC for taking their stand. They will give you the unlock, but you have to be willing to put your feet in the water too.
I just think it's funny. During the flame wars there were multiple people saying "htc would not release something that voids warranty."
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I saw this posted yesterday, but ever since I started rooting phones with my Hero a year and a half ago I always knew it technically voided the warranty. It is easy to switch back to stock and I have never had them even check when I returned a phone in the past.
Glad that they are going to release it. Not suprised that it voids the warranty. No different than putting mods on your car.....
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Lets be honest here, anyone on this forum would never use the MFW anyways, we are all here for one reason and one reason only. To get the most out of our phones and exploit their capabilities. You technically void your warranty with any other root anyways, so what's the difference? We are all taking a risk at doing anything with our phones in the first place. I can't say I blame HTC for taking their stand. They will give you the unlock, but you have to be willing to put your feet in the water too.
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This is exactly why it was in HTCs best interest to release the unlocked bootloader before we got perm-root.
To bad...they fail.
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Isn't that what RUU's are for?! I haven't had any problems at all returning previously rooted phones to Sprint, even after bricking my GF's Optimus S trying to get it back to stock, they took it back and gave us a new one. If you don't know how to revert to stock, you shouldn't be messing with root in the first place.
Just my opinion..
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Well...I think It's cool they are unlocking the bl ..even though at this point It's futile and the people who know what they are doing already have Their phone unlocked..I'm not gonna give them much credit though..they should not have locked it down in the first place..It's like someone punching you in the face and then giving them credit or appreciation when they apologize
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It's like someone punching you in the face and then giving them credit or appreciation when they apologize
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This made me LOL.
+1 to RUU to stock... Funny story, when I traded in my Hero at Best Buy, the guy saw my CM7 Gingerbread ROM and was like, "Sweet, didn't know you could put gingerbread on this thing." He never even batted an eye that it was rooted.
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I'm losing faith in the quality of HTC's dependability. They even drop your warranty if you transfer your evo to another line on your account. That's retarded because you're still the user of the device.
Lol I'm like the first one to brick it... congrats to me with a dead metal brick...
was playing with the temp root (tool and script) so just remind everyone there
are still risks associated
basically i got temp root, then after firing up titanium backup and backed up all my apps it crashed, then super user started crashing, it's stuck in forever boot loop, master reset will just shut down the machine lol i'll probably take it back since just got it 2 days ago
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Lol I'm like the first one to brick it... congrats to me with a dead metal brick...
was playing with the temp root (tool and script) so just remind everyone there
are still risks associated
basically i got temp root, then after firing up titanium backup and backed up all my apps it crashed, then super user started crashing, it's stuck in forever boot loop, master reset will just shut down the machine lol i'll probably take it back since just got it 2 days ago
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that happened to me too... lol, did you do a battery pull yet?? thats what knocked me out of the boot loop.
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atoore said:
Wrong forums.
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huh?
Enzopreme said:
that happened to me too... lol, did you do a battery pull yet?? thats what knocked me out of the boot loop.
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whats a battery pull? you mean just remove that battery? I did that and boot into Hboot for wipe, nothing works. infinite loop, I'm just gonna take it back to the store~~ hopefully they wont see its HTC unlocked bootloader lol
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whats a battery pull? you mean just remove that battery? I did that and boot into Hboot for wipe, nothing works. infinite loop, I'm just gonna take it back to the store~~ hopefully they wont see its S-Off LOL
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wait... you have s-off?? how'd you get s-off???
lol its in the dev section, unlock bootloader~~ it saids a giant UNLOCK when u go into Hboot
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Lol I'm like the first one to brick it... congrats to me with a dead metal brick...
was playing with the temp root (tool and script) so just remind everyone there
are still risks associated
basically i got temp root, then after firing up titanium backup and backed up all my apps it crashed, then super user started crashing, it's stuck in forever boot loop, master reset will just shut down the machine lol i'll probably take it back since just got it 2 days ago
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Had to stop by and LOL, sorry. But hey you're in the hall of fame now
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lol its in the dev section, unlock bootloader~~ it saids a giant UNLOCK when u go into Hboot
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yeah, thats an unlocked bootloader, but its not s-off bro. 2 different animals.
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lol its in the dev section, unlock bootloader~~ it saids a giant UNLOCK when u go into Hboot
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You should not be allowed to own a USB cable.
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You should not be allowed to own a USB cable.
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lol.......
ViOv said:
lol its in the dev section, unlock bootloader~~ it saids a giant UNLOCK when u go into Hboot
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That's not S-Off (if it were, it would say 's-off' not 'unlocked'). Also, by taking HTC's unlock you voluntarily void your warranty, so I dunno if Tmob will be helpful...
OH I suck, this is my first HTC android. Didn't know that's not S-off... I just saw it now lol we'll see when I head back to t-mobile, hopefully they wont be able to start the device at all...
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OH I suck, this is my first HTC android. Didn't know that's not S-off... I just saw it now lol we'll see when I head back to t-mobile, hopefully they wont be able to start the device at all...
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I hope T-Mobile will help you.
By unlocking the boot loader, you informed HTC that you voluntarily voided you warranty.
Those posts in the dev forum are extremely dangerous, both the bootloader unlock and temp root ones. The unlock being the most dangerous. I am grateful for the brave souls, that risk their device everyday, to help everyone.
However, until there is a method to restore a device to that "factory-fresh" state, people are playing Russian Roulette with their devices.
I am sending my best wishes your way though. Let's hope for a loophole.
Thanks, I just got a new phone. I walked in when the t-mobile retail manager was on an asshole attitude, so I just "attempted" to turn off the phone, he didn't even power it on, he just charged me a $50 restocking fee, I'd pay that instead of taking my chances of not being able to return it FOREVER, plus square trade deductible is the same anyway... so yeah now I got a new phone and I'm happy as ever,
Learn from this my friend, and spread the gospel to others.
Thou shalt not unlock the bootloader using HTC's method.
Thou shalt let people with more experience than thine self test new methods for anything.
If thou does not have extensive experience with development, thou shalt not do anything to thine device, unless there is a foolproof method to recover the device.
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Am I the only one annoyed by this. Your brand new to android and attempted rooting after reading next to nothing on xda. Once you bricked your phone, which was inevitable considering your complete lack of preparation, you cheated the system and saddled HTC with brick.
They won't continue being friendly with the dev community if they keep getting screwed by idiots who think there are no consequences to jumping the gun.
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Am I the only one annoyed by this. Your brand new to android and attempted rooting after reading next to nothing on xda. Once you bricked your phone, which was inevitable considering your complete lack of preparation, you cheated the system and saddled HTC with brick.
They won't continue being friendly with the dev community if they keep getting screwed by idiots who think there are no consequences to jumping the gun.
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My thoughts exactly...OP is dumb for jumping in ****-deep. OP is a twat for lying/stealing/cheating TMo. Take responsibility for your actions...I cannot count how many times idiots did this in the Vibrant forum.
calm down folks. While agree that the OP prob should have waited a bit, how does someone gain experience unless they try? Maybe be a little nicer instead of just outright insulting someone for their inexperience. Were you guys all born with complete knowledge of how to root a phone, did it by instinct? I doubt it. lay off the guy.
Secondly, cheating T-mo? like they don't make money hand over fist off all of us anyway? besides, for that guys $50 restocking fee, all T-Mo did was sell another phone so, they make twice as much money, and they get a phone back to recondition and sell as either a refurb or give it to asurion so that they can use it as an insurance replacement.
Be [email protected]$%@#g nice on these forums people, otherwise people are gonna get burned out on doing stuff like this and there will be no development at all on anything.
People with no experience need to wait until the more experienced make things clear and stable. As for the cheating, etc, it is fraud. Just because we feel that companies rape us does not make it legal to steal. That is all I will say on it.
Applaud the successes, cast stones at poor morality.
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first its my fault i uploaded the damn VIRGIN **** leak....
yet i am paying 8 bucks a month for **** reasons like this even if anyone says its not used for being stupid to root or whatever....
the rant starts with the sprint store. i go in the tech passes me over to the manager who says since i rooted my phone before he will not help me. so i call tech and they said he better look at it. i said no way am i going back to see that ahole again. so they tell me to go to a 3rd party repair store. mind you my phone was working only thing was that it had vm on the banner. the tech tries to fix my phone only to screw up the 3g. so he places an order for a phone. which was on the 8th.
i try to fix my phone until i get the new phone since its on back order. i screw up even more with no calls working. i call sprint and i swear two out of like four told me to root my phone. level two tech said this... haha
yesterday i call the store i want a phone damn it tells me not today sir call tomorrow or even maybe later in the week. WHAT! call sprint told me its going to be another week. i speak to whoever i can they told me the same about it looks like a major back order. this afternoon i call for a update and long and behold the tech says its out for delivery on the ups truck. few hours later the store calls says it will be in tomorrow... wait who is right here? call andriod tech he says 5 more days. huh i say send me to level two tech which he did. the new tech not only tells me its coming today but gave me a tracking number.
sprint get your **** together and have one open system. also let us live and root your own techs advice is to do it.
I get it, you ****ed up your own phone and it's Sprint's fault for not pampering you like an infant?
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I get it, you ****ed up your own phone and it's Sprint's fault for not pampering you like an infant?
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not at all. one they need to have a clear message across the board. do they or they do not fix rooted phones. i have seen leaked memos that tell them they should. leave that bit on the side. my rant is not the back order nor the techs. my problem is the systems they use. cs runs on a different system can not even see if there are orders for a phone. andriod tech sees an order can not get any more info. level one tech same and tells me its not shipped while level two tech said it was. level two tech can tell me when its being shipped.. how by get this... they chat with the warehouse. well wait why can it all not be connected. one system!
also when a level two tech says trying rooting your phone what should be said? nothing about warranty was said too.
Should've not mentioned root and said one day you woke up with VM and 3G was slower...
I mean, it's true. You don't have to tell them you rooted. And the day after flashing VM firmware, you technically did wake up with VM. The VM makes 3G slower so yeah..
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Should've not mentioned root and said one day you woke up with VM and 3G was slower...
I mean, it's true. You don't have to tell them you rooted. And the day after flashing VM firmware, you technically did wake up with VM. The VM makes 3G slower so yeah..
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It actually makes mine MUCH faster... Just saying...
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Should've not mentioned root and said one day you woke up with VM and 3G was slower...
I mean, it's true. You don't have to tell them you rooted. And the day after flashing VM firmware, you technically did wake up with VM. The VM makes 3G slower so yeah..
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well they replaced it anyways. just got the phone it has about 58 mins of talk time and was actived on 4/2/12 almost brand new lol.... now time to root and install vm again haha no. should i flash ics or not is the question. i am sure staying about from frameware for now.
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they need to have a clear message across the board. do they or they do not fix rooted phones.
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Sprint's stance is this:
Do whatever you want to your phone. If [Sprint] sees that you bricked it [or any features therein] by:
*using unsigned anything,
*and you cannot restore its functionality by restoring its original firmware(s).
*or are unable to restore original firmware(s) due to lockout of writing to said bricked phone/feature,
[Sprint] will not see fit to service this device or its feature(s).
Since what you really want is attention... Congratulations u got it!!!! Don't forget to hit the thanks button too!!!!!
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well they replaced it anyways. just got the phone it has about 58 mins of talk time and was actived on 4/2/12 almost brand new lol.... now time to root and install vm again haha no. should i flash ics or not is the question. i am sure staying about from frameware for now.
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Flashing only the ROMs works fine.
Dont flash the firmware on the new 3D.
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Since what you really want is attention... Congratulations u got it!!!! Don't forget to hit the thanks button too!!!!!
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like you need the thanks.... congratulations u got it
are there hamburgers here?
1) Punctuation is our friend!
2) Sentences should always begin with capital letters!
3) Run on sentences are really hard to follow!
4)
Spoiler
You broke your phone. Your grasp of the English language is probably the reason why. If you can't wrap your brain around flashing, get yourself an iDrone and leave Android to the literate.
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Forgive the people here man, they are cranky because of delayed official ics launch
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Yeah. I completely get you, although many people.here hate on you since, HTC is delaying ics, or whatever else. Well some of the people in sprint claim they can't fix your phone because your root, even if its something like, "Flash isn't working" , its an external problem, maybe the light there went off or its broken. Then you talk to another guy. And he tells you , 'Root your phone' NO DUH! Seems like rooting your phone is way cheaper and faster than talking to a dumb sprint tech that has no idea of what he's saying.
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1) Punctuation is our friend!
2) Sentences should always begin with capital letters!
3) Run on sentences are really hard to follow!
4)
Spoiler
You broke your phone. Your grasp of the English language is probably the reason why. If you can't wrap your brain around flashing, get yourself an iDrone and leave Android to the literate.
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Ok.. you are correct in terms of my writing. If I was in college again I would care.
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fearbasel04 said:
Ok.. you are correct in terms of my writing. If I was in college again I would care.
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Thank you I say that **** to people all the time. Not to mention its the internet lol.
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It's the internet not a writing essay , if you were to flame everyone on the internet for punctuation you'd be flaming at everyone. People use things like Lolz , wtf, hai, bai, likez, you know, different spelling and extra letters in the end of every word, we don't come to the internet to be Mr Perfect in grammar, I come here to get away from it without having to face Grammar Nazis.
If he were writing a formal letter punctuation that isn't correct looks horrible, but ITS just a post. Nothing much nothing more.
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Funny thing is I am a teacher. I need a break from it all. Then again I also have a degree in computers. I know what needs to be said and done. Also its not like my posts come from my desktop. It's different on a phone. Live and let live, and worrying on a forum means you need a life.
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It's different on a phone. Live and let live, and worrying on a forum means you need a life.
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That last one made me laugh. It's funny because its true. If its understandable, its ok.
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Jimlarck said:
That last one made me laugh. It's funny because its true. If its understandable, its ok.
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You know I been coming to site since the wm oops windows mobile days. It's become a place like MySpace was. When before it was post a problem and you will get a reply for help. Now everyone replies with nonsense or even changes the topic. If you disagree then like my mom said keep your mouth shut.
Look at what happened to MySpace. People got sick of the bull**** in the forums.
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My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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You can tell him that he can get rid of ads in apps if he roots the phone. I bet he thinks that they're annoying too.
Don't bother, he doesn't need root.
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Don't bother, he doesn't need root.
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HAHAHAHA!! Good one.
bee mcfly said:
My best friend just upgraded to the GS3 from his original Galaxy S. I tried to get him to get the unlocked Galaxy Nexus, but that's another story. He won't let me root his GS3 at all. He likes it, and says that all that is unnecessary BS, and if it doesn't come stock it's not needed. I personally have a rooted Nexus s 4g, and he still resist the urge to root. How can you convince people to take the leap of faith and get their phone rooted?
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Why do you want to force him to root?
It's his phone, he's happy and that is his choice.
I rooted the sh*t out of my SGS 1 because the stock firmware had a lot of issues, and only after 2 years of community development I'd say that the various homebrew ROMs and kernels reached a level of maturity, performance and stability which allowed an overall smooth experience.
With the SGS 3 at the moment i'm super happy with stock firmware, for now i'll keep on monitoring the community developments and i'll root it when i'll feel it's the right time.
ROOT = NO until root is required its not a go faster must have toy .
If he wants to carry out certain operations that require root then yes but its the height on noobness to root for no reason .Root voids warranty .
jje
The main reason is to do a proper backup of apps before flashing new firmware using titanium
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JJEgan said:
ROOT = NO until root is required its not a go faster must have toy .
If he wants to carry out certain operations that require root then yes but its the height on noobness to root for no reason .Root voids warranty .
jje
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I totally agree, too much **** could go horribly wrong if someone who is clueless about Android has root.
If he wants to learn himself all well and good but in this situation he is better off without it.
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steal his mobile for few minutes and root it and give your friend a surprise
You can't force him to root. Don't worry, if he feels the urge he will. It's human nature .
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Stock ROM is sufficient. No need to root
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Respect Your Friends
If it really is your best friend, then be a good friend and see the situation from his perspective, not just your own. As he sees it, rooting is an unnecessary complication that may bring risk, and from his point of view, he is right.
I rooted my new tablet only after I realized I needed to because there were things I wanted to do that required rooting. Along with that, I set myself up to restore the tablet to its original condition if anything went wrong. I am an experienced Unix/Linux system administrator, and the decision to root the device was not one I made quickly, without learning as much as I could about rooting, and thinking it through. I would never try to talk anyone else into doing it, and it would bother me if a good friend rooted their device just to copy me, or because it was "a cool thing to do."
Instead of trying to manipulate your friend into doing something to make you happy, make sure you are doing it to benefit him, and not cause problems in his life. If you consider all of the possible consequences, that may be harder than you think. ;-)
Having said all that, if you still want to continue with your idea, here is a plan: Make a list of all the additional things you can do with a rooted device, and think about the added value. It's not hard to get a list of apps that require a rooted device, and there are even websites with articles like, "Top 15 Apps That Require Rooting." Then show your friend how the apps are run, and show how easy it is, and that it is 99% safe. Also, if he ends up in the 1%, make sure he can recover his device and explain that to him.
If he still doesn't want to do it, leave him alone. Repeat the following until you can say it easily: "OK, I respect your decision."
And if you can say that and mean it, you will have maximized the chance that sometime in the future, he will decide to root, after making the decision on his own, not because someone pushed him into it.
some people is scared of this rooting thing coz, they r afraid to void their warranty. We all know it's not true but people will always be like that.
1. Take the trouble to educate him on the real risk of root, which is pretty much none.
2. Make sure he has a desire to control and make his device the way the wants it to be.
If #2 is not valid. You can leave him alone, and from time to time, show him how awesome root can be. He will have to convince himself to do it. Don't put it upon yourself to force him to it. Root & modification generated experiences varies from people to people.
Connect a Ps3 controller and play something like Nova 3 on Tv to show the possibilities of Rooting.
I agree with others if he doesn't want to root don't force him, I only rooted my old gt540 because the phone was stuck on 2.1 and I wanted GB currently I have no reason to root my GS3 but I will when I need to.
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Michael_P said:
Connect a Ps3 controller and play something like Nova 3 on Tv to show the possibilities of Rooting.
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That's IF you can get your hands in the right Hdmi cable..I've spent over 100 dollars ordering 2 different Hdmi mhl adapters now trying to find the right one. Crossing my fingers that the current one I have ordered will work.
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Honestly if I was forced to I could do without almost everything that needs Root, but if I saw a phone that couldn't use Titanium Backup I just don't think I'd buy it because picking that App is a no Brainer, and I've known a load of people who have lost a f**k load of data because they had no backups so I offer to temporarily Root then Unroot to make them the occasional backup.
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some people is scared of this rooting thing coz, they r afraid to void their warranty. We all know it's not true but people will always be like that.
1. Take the trouble to educate him on the real risk of root, which is pretty much none.
2. Make sure he has a desire to control and make his device the way the wants it to be.
If #2 is not valid. You can leave him alone, and from time to time, show him how awesome root can be. He will have to convince himself to do it. Don't put it upon yourself to force him to it. Root & modification generated experiences varies from people to people.
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Please replace word root with jesus and you'll see how patronizing this sounds
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Please replace word root with jesus and you'll see how patronizing this sounds
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Lolololol
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Thanks y'all. Kinda realized that leaving someone with a rooted phone is worse than not rooting at all. It's like buying a teen Sports car setting it up, and leaving him unattended. Plus he likes touchwiz soI guess I'll leave him be.
So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
Dolphlungegrin said:
So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
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Be honest.
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Be honest.
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You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
Dolphlungegrin said:
You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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Why not, that's exactly what you did after all...
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richii0207 said:
Why not, it's exactly what you did after all...
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True. . . but I'm not sure I want to pay the full price for the phone they sent me under warranty. I would rather send the replacement back and wait for the ME7 bootloader to be cracked.
Erisnoob said:
Be honest.
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Yup
Dolphlungegrin said:
You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
I would tell them that you just fixed it with Odin..
I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
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Why be underhanded about your character? Your title is how to trick Verizon? What this really is though is a hey look at me guys I commited fraud to replace a device that I knowingly and willingly violated my warranty with and had verizon send me a replacement device only to find out my original device wasnt broken after all. To add to the character comment even though you've fixed your device you're still contemplating continuing with the fraud by purposely bricking a device that you repaired...
I think this whole thread speaks volumes about your character or lack there of. You posted this on the internet. You screwed up the device. You fixed it. Own it.
Dolphlungegrin said:
I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
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The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
Edit: The title of your thread didn't help matters either
cbmggm said:
The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
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I agree with you completely, it's on the person. The question was how do I trick verizon....so my answer was don't. If you don't want the feedback, don't ask. No rudeness was intended. I am fairly sure the lack of ownership on mistakes is frowned upon in the XDA community. Oh well, my opinion was to be honest. Enjoy your decision
Nothing rude was said to the op. The fact of the matter is that the very premise of this thread was to seek advice on warranty fraud, which is illegal.
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It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
TNS201 said:
It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
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The Verizon rep said something similar. He said they check for water damage, broken screen, etc.
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Here's the deal, no one thinks you are a bad person. Strike me down, but verizon is not lacking integrity here. Never once was this device advertised as being unlocked or unlockable and they have never said they support modding. If this was a nexus that they locked the bootloader on then yes, problem. I said be honest, my point was this decison is an integrity one, not you lack integrity. If you wanted to know if will VZW charge you for returning a rooted phone, that would have been a more appropriate question and thread, not how do I trick Verizon. Lesson learned, not beating up on you.
The OP owned it, he said he was sending the replacement device back. Good for him. Like others I wasnt trying to come across as being rude as much as appalled at the blatant disregard of personal responsibility. At the same time posting this type of title and thread up on XDA is kinda asking for it, which again, the OP has acknowledged.
We know we hate the carriers locking devices down. Locking them actually presents more of a risk of bricking than unlocked devices that you can always flash back to stock. Almost every thread here has something to the effect of "by following such and such your warranty is now void and we are not responsible", come on, we're registered here at XDA, we all know this. If we want an open device get a dev or nexus device and get an extended warranty or insurance option, they're out there.
Congrats to the op for staying classy, your choices are your choices and you'll live with whatever choices you decide to make.
And as we all should know by now, dont post on the interwebz if you dont want to hear what people, trolls and non-trolls alike have to say...
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Think of it like this. What do you use your phone for? To talk on the phone. Send messages. Email. Take pictures. Surf the web. Play games. Watch videos. Video chat. The other 20% is customization. If this was the year 1999 you would only be able to use your phone to make calls send messages and half-assed surf the web. Your phone is used for those types of things. Just because an update happened to a phone doesn't mean that you cannot use your phone to do those things it only limits you from updating to a different ROMS. ATT Verizon and them paid the money so they could have the locked boot loaders for the phones. If you didn't want restrictions then you wouldn't have used the upgrade you had and went and paid full price for the GPE s4 or other phone. Not saying that I like having a locked boot loader but since Obama came into office this is how its going to be because he's UN Americanized. But there are people working hard to get the boot loader unlocked it just takes time. You can still root it. Just my 2 cents
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