hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
Bchgirl19 said:
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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I'm going to venture to guess that the process will be entirely too long and tedious for someone not well versed to follow and could potential end in disaster. The phone isn't bricked since the main recovery menu pops up. I'd suggest looking on craigslist for someone locally to help you guys out. Unless someone here can offer a quick fix, i'd much rather you find someone that has experience to fix this in person. Sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for but that would probably be your best bet
Bchgirl19 said:
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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UPDATE
Thank you for your responses! Much appreciated. Believe it or not - this kid fixed it all by himself. Basically (remember I am not technical) he unlocked the boot loader then flashed a ROM onto an SD card and was able to load. Don't think I worded correctly - but it's fixed and working fine. WHEW!!
I will certainly keep the info to this forum handy because something tells me that I will be visiting again with this child..................
Have a great evening!!
p.s. I typed the wrong key -- he's 12 not 11
Bchgirl19 said:
Thank you for your responses! Much appreciated. Believe it or not - this kid fixed it all by himself. Basically (remember I am not technical) he unlocked the boot loader then flashed a ROM onto an SD card and was able to load. Don't think I worded correctly - but it's fixed and working fine. WHEW!!
I will certainly keep the info to this forum handy because something tells me that I will be visiting again with this child..................
Have a great evening!!
p.s. I typed the wrong key -- he's 12 not 11
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I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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Me too! Im 14 now.
The M8 is my first android phone and custom roms seem to get better and better.
The phone was not "bricked", and you are using the term improperly. Your son simply did something to make the phone unable to boot into the Android operating system. This state is usually easy to recover from, as long as the proper steps are known. So that is not a brick.
Itis of course your choice whether to let your kid modify (mod) your phone in such ways. And part of the modding process is always going to involve some hiccups (for even the most experienced users) and figuring out how to fix them. So I'm glad your son figured it out.
On the other hand, both you and he should be fully aware (if not already) that modding the phone may void the warranty, and also permanent damage (a true "brick") is possible if he doesn't fully understand what he is doing. Such damage is not covered by warranty.
To the OP (original poster), please do not create multiple thread asking the same question.
Its against forum rules, and makes it super confusing for those trying to help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750602
Bchgirl19 said:
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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You got your 11-year-old a $700 smartphone. What did you think would happen? Why in the world does a kid that young even need a smartphone?
supitsronnie said:
I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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I agree about his technical skills being alot of good and bad! We've had our share with him-- I won't bore you with the lists. My husband is the tech guy (of course he was away on business when this happened) and he understands his quest for knowledge and how much he loves this stuff - -says it's how he learns. Hubby has given him some old laptops and ipods and he sure has fun with those!
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You got your 11-year-old a $700 smartphone. What did you think would happen? Why in the world does a kid that young even need a smartphone?
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I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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Oh, I'm sorry. Are you counting the on contract price? Okay. Well, throw it on the ground or drop it in a pool or give it to a child to ruin. Now go back to the store to get a replacement and see how much it costs. You also signed a contract and took on an extra monthly data plan... For a child. The fact that you have no clue how much the phone actually costs explains a lot, actually.
I'm not concerned about your wallet. You clearly have more money than sense, so rather than crying here, just go buy a replacement phone for him to ruin. While you're at it, go ahead and get him an espresso machine.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Are you counting the on contract price? Okay. Well, throw it on the ground or drop it in a pool or give it to a child to ruin. Now go back to the store to get a replacement and see how much it costs. You also signed a contract and took on an extra monthly data plan... For a child. The fact that you have no clue how much the phone actually costs explains a lot, actually.
I'm not concerned about your wallet. You clearly have more money than sense, so rather than crying here, just go buy a replacement phone for him to ruin. While you're at it, go ahead and get him an espresso machine.
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Seems like she asked a question to a problem and it was answered. I'm not sure how taking a personal shot at a newcomer to the forum accomplishes anything. Her decision to buy her son anything is hers and hers alone, why inject your opinion into it, much less insinuate that she has no sense. It comes off as aloof and petty. This doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. Flame away.
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Seems like she asked a question to a problem and it was answered. I'm not sure how taking a personal shot at a newcomer to the forum accomplishes anything. Her decision to buy her son anything is hers and hers alone, why inject your opinion into it, much less insinuate that she has no sense. It comes off as aloof and petty. This doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. Flame away.
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Thanks a bunch for your support and from all of those who responded. I've visited various forums in my life and am well aware that there are always those few who just like to be mean and find power on these boards. I didn't come here asking for anyone's opinion on what I allow my children to do or how they spend their allowance - just needed some advice. Sincerely appreciate the great input that I have received.
Bchgirl19 said:
I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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The actual retail cost of the device is $639; which would also be the replacement cost of this device. The on-contract price of $199 is just a subsidized cost, which the carrier basically spreads over the length of your 2-year contract.
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Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
BlueGoldAce said:
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
omgtheybetterfixitinthenexttwelvesecondsorimsogoingtoreturnthisphonegoddamn
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
Irishman42 said:
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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danaff37 said:
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
I certainly understand that you're looking for the bootloader of the EVO 3D to be unlocked. This is indeed something that we're working on, true to our word. We don't have a date set yet for when the update to do so will be available, but as this is a high priority situation when there is news on the subject it will be posted to our social media outlets, like our Facebook and our Twitter just as the previous announcement was. I hope that it is soon.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number
Sincerely,
Philip
Are there any??? If so, what's the ratio you think? Also, I see guys rooting their girls/wives phones, but I've only seen about two females that actually do it themselves. I don't know, just something random that popped up in my head. Lol
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That's a very good question. I think/hope there are a good number of female developers in XDA and other sites. My guess is that they might use more gender neutral names, which would make it harder for us to notice (a lot like how female authors used to use male pseudonyms in order to make their novels more noticeable). Either way, I for one am certainly interested in finding them.
Me as well. I think it would be pretty awesome to find out any that are. Also, of the work that they do. Females are known for finesse and precision, so I'm pretty sure it would be pretty good...and just for security measures, I'm not in any way, shape or form, trying to be sexist. Lol "D
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Person of the female persuasion here.
...though your initial question asked about female devs, of which I certainly am not. This phone was my first smartphone. To answer one of the OP's questions: I do believe in having full rights to the stuff I buy, so rooting was the first thing I did after getting the phone in May. Just took the bootloader + custom rom plunge this month after first reading the hell out of these message boards.
I'm glad to hear that. I wish more females were into rooting. Most of the times, you tell them how cool it is and all the things that you can do and they seem interested (at least in my case) only in being able to change the theme colors and nothing else. Lol
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Kinda surprised at the tumbleweed. I'm a developer and a female (simultaneously!).
Is it okay to say that? Now I'm paranoid. Maybe there's something in the Official Women Rulebook of Life that disallows voluntarily revealing our gender. (That thing is way too long and boring and full of emotions, I didn't read all of it.) Policy enforcement agents are probably going to crash through my windows any second now. One of you had better bail me out.
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Person of the female persuasion here.
...though your initial question asked about female devs, of which I certainly am not. This phone was my first smartphone. To answer one of the OP's questions: I do believe in having full rights to the stuff I buy, so rooting was the first thing I did after getting the phone in May. Just took the bootloader + custom rom plunge this month after first reading the hell out of these message boards.
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How do you post as a guest?
This could be the start of a new subforum: XDAting service
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bought several smartphones for my wife because she gets bored with them easily. She loves the stuff I do to my phones, but tbh, she couldn't be bothered to try any herself. I guess she likes the idea more than the application.
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How do you post as a guest?
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Short answer: I wasn't a guest.
Longer answer: I had a new-ish but valid account, with a couple of thanks on the meter. Until one day it wasn't there. I couldn't log in, my email address wasn't found in the system when I tried resetting my password. So I sent two emails (waiting a couple of days in between) to the forum gods asking about the state of my account, and I didn't hear back. So I just gave up and made a new account, no harm, no foul.
I too am female but no way a developer. That being said, the first thing I ever do to any new phone I get (all moto at this point, first was backflip, then flipside now atrix) is root it. Not to be able to change themes but so its MINE. I bought it, why should I be limited in what I can do with it. I just last month finally got the balls (Haha, ok, the guts) to unlock bootloader and flash. Im no n00b by any means to technology. I started going to college to get my AS in computer science, but life and children stopped me. Im still all into playing with things. Replaced my screen on my atrix already, trying to get the flipside a custom recovery so custom roms can be flashed (which if anyone wants to help, id be grateful! ;-)). Love android, hate icrap.
I am a female, not a developer but an Electrical Engineer by profession, and do all the rooting and modding for myself and hubby.
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I remember you. At one time you graciously corrected me on a mistake I made about inverted settings I believe.
Weird that your account just folded on you like that. But I threw you a "Thanks" to get the ball rolling again since you did help me before.
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Short answer: I wasn't a guest.
Longer answer: I had a new-ish but valid account, with a couple of thanks on the meter. Until one day it wasn't there. I couldn't log in, my email address wasn't found in the system when I tried resetting my password. So I sent two emails (waiting a couple of days in between) to the forum gods asking about the state of my account, and I didn't hear back. So I just gave up and made a new account, no harm, no foul.
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Hey, thanks for that! (And you were quite helpful with my noob flashing questions.)
At any rate, the "forum gods that be" said my account was apparently deleted, but were nice enough to look into it for me. This will do for a replacement.
Love the avatar by the way, I've read every Calvin N Hobbes comic.
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Hey, thanks for that! (And you were quite helpful with my noob flashing questions.)
At any rate, the "forum gods that be" said my account was apparently deleted, but were nice enough to look into it for me. This will do for a replacement.
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Love the avatar by the way, I've read every Calvin N Hobbes comic.
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I used to be able to quote entire strips from memory. "Scientific progress goes 'boink' " is practically a life philosophy at this point.
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Ok I LOL'd. Not sure if this would really take off; I've notice most male devs are either 17 years old, married, or with some chick who knows absolutely nothing about what he does. It's hard enough to find a guy who isn't scared to root his device.
in last 2 years i owned bold 9700, HD2 and now sensation.
unfortunately while trying to clean dust out of the screen i damaged it it was already dropped and leaking on the corner and i separated it even more.
i havent been up to date on cell phones for last year or so
and asking your advice because i do not want to make same mistake like buying this stupid sensation phone with its issues
(camera red color and dust under screen etc)
can anyone that knows more than me about the following phones give me a quick list of major defects that i should look for ?
im planning to get the new phone this saturday and dont have any time to do research since im pretty busy at work..
here are the phones from tmobile that i was eyeballing today.
1 htc amaze how well is it built looked a bit heavy
2 tmo G2X
3 samsung exhibit 2
4 samsung galaxy s2 screen is big but resolution is not so big
can someone post pictures from following phones also? unless theres a thread with pictures i want to see quality the camera on those.
I experienced the "dust under the screen" issue with the MT4G, which I loved, but the dust made me exchange the phone 5 times
I can tell you Samsung phones don't have that problem because they fuse the screen so nothing can get it.. a HUGE plus to me
The T-Mobile Galaxy S2 had been the best phone I have ever owned by far.. and the screen outclasses anything on the market IMO.. I've held my phone next to the iPhone 4S, both playing Cut the Rope, and it almost made my friend throw his phone because he was sure the iPhone had the best screen.. it wasn't even close, the colors, the blacks, everything was so much cleaner on the S2
You will hear complaints about every phone out there, including the S2, but I promise you won't be disappointed, I wouldn't trade this phone for the new Nexus, iPhone, nada
Galaxy S2 all the way.
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy Note? I just got it one month ago - and I just think its a unique device - works really well as a phone and a tablet, which many people doubted, s pen with s memo allows me to scribble when I am feeling creative/have ideas which are not meant just for typing etc. I do hope they bring ICS to it, which is optimized and not slowed down. You could consider this as well. I know people have S2 and are happy with it, but somehow I thought Note would make the owner feel extra special Hope this helps?
would be nice but its not available through T-mobile.
No offence m8 but you really need to go and put some effort into this one yourself. Its kind of silly to ask people who you don't know and who don't know you to decide which phone is right for you.
You need to go google this sh*t.
get a list of the phones spec.
find 2-3 review of each one and read it all.
then once you have an idea of the difference.
Cross ref what you've found out with whats
1:Essential
2:important
3:Favoured
4:a bonus feature
Than it will become very clear which one is best for you.
Asking on a forum is just plain lazy, and likely to leave you open to other peoples all too common 'mine rewls' mentality, you need to answer this one yourself m8.
no offence m8 but i didnt have time to do any of that, usually i do research but i found out about the sale a day before it so thanks for advice broski.
i listed the phones i was interested in and thats about how much time i had is to check the specs on the phones available through tmobile. other than that i didnt have time to go around forums and dig through 1000s of BS useless posts to try to locate the defects and shortcomings of every phone...
but unfortunately i ended up not upgrading anyting cuz its not worth it.
Whaaaa? Its always a good time to upgrade :]
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
the recent tmobile "promotion" was a big fail.
i went to the store and was told that there will be no change in my plan. and i get a the money back once i send the rebate.
to find out that i still have to pay full price for the phone over 20 month period...
that is not a damn promotion its a trick..
why the hell would anyone do that.
you get stuck with this company for 2 years AND you still have to pay full price on the phone.
i can walk in any day and buy that phone with my credit card instead and make payments on it and not have to be binded by 2 year contract...
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no offence m8 but i didnt have time to do any of that, usually i do research but i found out about the sale a day before it so thanks for advice broski.
i listed the phones i was interested in and thats about how much time i had is to check the specs on the phones available through tmobile. other than that i didnt have time to go around forums and dig through 1000s of BS useless posts to try to locate the defects and shortcomings of every phone...
but unfortunately i ended up not upgrading anyting cuz its not worth it.
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lol .......... if you'd actually bothered to try it you'd have found everything in a couple of hours max!!!
Whats better spending some time solving your own procurement issues. After all you know what you need want and desire better than anyone else.
OR
Begging the opinions of other people who don't know you, and whos soundness of advice you have no idea about on a website.
Methinks your method indicates how committed to the venture you where, the outcome speaks volumes
cool thanks lol one person actually tried to help.
what did you not understand i didnt have time to do any research past what little searching i did...
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cool thanks lol one person actually tried to help.
what did you not understand i didnt have time to do any research past what little searching i did...
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ROFLOL ......... yeah but you had plenty of time to wait 5 days whilst you expected others to do your legwork for you
Don't wanna make this personal but your just not getting it
"One person helped"?? No m8 one person tossed you a bone ...... since you where begging, probably just bigging up whatever he owns. Everyone else's response (lack of, should tell you a lot about attitudes to posts like this. Where OP clearly states "I can't be arsed doing what i'd like you chumps to do for me".
Best advice you got was from me, your best at deciding what you need not someone else. Amazes me anyone is so lazy that they would rather take dubious advice from a forum than spend 2-3 hours educating themselves.
How old are you ......... seriously you a teen ???
Galaxy s 2 is good screen is great and lots of roms for it.
ROFLOL BRAH. because sale is over... dont need your help stop helping...
i was hoping that someone could throw some details about the phones i listed, you cant read good can you?.
your advice was not worth any more than a piece of doog poop on a sidewalk.
now that i had more time i did some more research and know more about the phones. but you obviously do not get it. and just have to have the last word even if its not relaed to the topic...
u know if soemone needs help quick i give them an answer and then we figure out if he was lazy or not...
i hope your car breaks down and you go and ask on some automotive forums for help and get same responce as you gave me "its your car you should know whats best for it BRAH!!!"
but maybe you still dont get it..
i found out about the sale a day before the sale. you follow?
i work all day.. still with me?
i was busy in teh evening and couldnt do much research. still there?
next day i was working as well and didnt have time to sit research on teh internets instead of working. after work i went to the tmobile store...
i asked if someone could give me a quick rundown of the common problems of the phones i listed... nothing more.
because i dont know how much clearer i can state my question.
"can anyone that knows more than me about the following phones give me a quick list of major defects "
anyway this thread can be deleted since it turned into useless thread.
Well thats what happens when you post a useless question.
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
U should buy a basic flip phone. Problem solved. There ya go XD
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cool another helper thanks for your help lol
For those who've never had to deal with their phone being stolen.. it's kinda like this...for me anyways.
You soon realize that some random dude: did, can and could be - right now- looking through your private files, has access to phone numbers, pictures, videos, e-mails, and voice-mails. Oh, and did I mention all of your SD card contents? In my case my external sd =16gb of pure music..
You're lucky if you haven't experienced this and I'd definitely recommend some sort of remote wipe application.. since this could happen to anyone, anytime.
It really sucks. Especially when right after you lose it, you decide to call (hoping to hear that old ring from deep between the seats) and listen in disbelief as someone actually answered! You now come to the realization that some piece of **** has stolen your phone and actually answered *a* (your) call, and is completely clueless of how to hang up. As you stand at a payphone shouting and yelling in what feels like your toughest, manliest voice, demanding the return of your phone at once.. you know it's g-o-n-e.
Anyways.. sorry about that. Had to get that off my chest :crying:...
So anyways.. with the Rezound forum having turned into a ghost town of sorts and many cool phones having come out or planned to.. What would you do? So far I replaced 1 Rezound so this would be my third! I'm thinking of going a diff route this time to be honest.. and since I haven't been keeping up with the latest news and stats of phones.. maybe I can get some opinions/ideas/help from some fellow Rezound owners :fingers-crossed:
Here's some info:
- I have insurance through 'Protect Cell' (awesome by the way!!). It will cost me somewhere between $100-125 for a *Brand-new* non-refurbished Rez to show up next day.
- I can use an upgrade from Verizon :victory:
- I prefer newer/newest phones so I don't have to think about upgrading too soon.
- Price isn't really an issue but I do want to stay with Verizon since I have unlimited 4G data :silly:
- I love rooting and modding/customizing my phones!
Thanks everyone for reading this thread and taking the time to share your opinions. !!
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For those who've never had to deal with their phone being stolen.. it's kinda like this...for me anyways.
You soon realize that some random dude: did, can and could be - right now- looking through your private files, has access to phone numbers, pictures, videos, e-mails, and voice-mails. Oh, and did I mention all of your SD card contents? In my case my external sd =16gb of pure music..
You're lucky if you haven't experienced this and I'd definitely recommend some sort of remote wipe application.. since this could happen to anyone, anytime.
It really sucks. Especially when right after you lose it, you decide to call (hoping to hear that old ring from deep between the seats) and listen in disbelief as someone actually answered! You now come to the realization that some piece of **** has stolen your phone and actually answered *a* (your) call, and is completely clueless of how to hang up. As you stand at a payphone shouting and yelling in what feels like your toughest, manliest voice, demanding the return of your phone at once.. you know it's g-o-n-e.
Anyways.. sorry about that. Had to get that off my chest :crying:...
So anyways.. with the Rezound forum having turned into a ghost town of sorts and many cool phones having come out or planned to.. What would you do? So far I replaced 1 Rezound so this would be my third! I'm thinking of going a diff route this time to be honest.. and since I haven't been keeping up with the latest news and stats of phones.. maybe I can get some opinions/ideas/help from some fellow Rezound owners :fingers-crossed:
Here's some info:
- I have insurance through 'Protect Cell' (awesome by the way!!). It will cost me somewhere between $100-125 for a *Brand-new* non-refurbished Rez to show up next day.
- I can use an upgrade from Verizon :victory:
- I prefer newer/newest phones so I don't have to think about upgrading too soon.
- Price isn't really an issue but I do want to stay with Verizon since I have unlimited 4G data :silly:
- I love rooting and modding/customizing my phones!
Thanks everyone for reading this thread and taking the time to share your opinions. !!
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yay, a fellow protect cell guy! they rock, don't they?? however, i think you're mistaken, bc i was led to believe they ARE in fact refurbished phones from HTC..that's what the training pretty much stated :\
sorry to hear about your phone, though
well, you can use your upgrade, but remember, you'll lose unlimited data. if you get a replacement from PC, you'll keep unlimited data. take that into consideration!
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For those who've never had to deal with their phone being stolen.. it's kinda like this...for me anyways.
You soon realize that some random dude: did, can and could be - right now- looking through your private files, has access to phone numbers, pictures, videos, e-mails, and voice-mails. Oh, and did I mention all of your SD card contents? In my case my external sd =16gb of pure music..
You're lucky if you haven't experienced this and I'd definitely recommend some sort of remote wipe application.. since this could happen to anyone, anytime.
It really sucks. Especially when right after you lose it, you decide to call (hoping to hear that old ring from deep between the seats) and listen in disbelief as someone actually answered! You now come to the realization that some piece of **** has stolen your phone and actually answered *a* (your) call, and is completely clueless of how to hang up. As you stand at a payphone shouting and yelling in what feels like your toughest, manliest voice, demanding the return of your phone at once.. you know it's g-o-n-e.
Anyways.. sorry about that. Had to get that off my chest :crying:...
So anyways.. with the Rezound forum having turned into a ghost town of sorts and many cool phones having come out or planned to.. What would you do? So far I replaced 1 Rezound so this would be my third! I'm thinking of going a diff route this time to be honest.. and since I haven't been keeping up with the latest news and stats of phones.. maybe I can get some opinions/ideas/help from some fellow Rezound owners :fingers-crossed:
Here's some info:
- I have insurance through 'Protect Cell' (awesome by the way!!). It will cost me somewhere between $100-125 for a *Brand-new* non-refurbished Rez to show up next day.
- I can use an upgrade from Verizon :victory:
- I prefer newer/newest phones so I don't have to think about upgrading too soon.
- Price isn't really an issue but I do want to stay with Verizon since I have unlimited 4G data :silly:
- I love rooting and modding/customizing my phones!
Thanks everyone for reading this thread and taking the time to share your opinions. !!
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I had this happen with my DInc, it was a sad moment in my life. I had just put in a new digitizer and front housing piece so the phone looked brand new!, Got myself an otterbox case for the phone, and rooted the heck out of it. Nest thing ya know its gone a week later and I'm purchasing a Thunderbolt to replace it! It was heartbreaking because I just made it so beastly and then someone else reaped the benefits of it. Good thing I didnt have any Pics or anything on it, Although they did get away with my 16GB Memory Stick :-/
Sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the pain in ass that must be. It's not just the time you put into the phone but all the personal stuff. I just don't get why people don't do the right thing and return the phone. Regardless I still retain some faith in humanity and will always place my name with an alternate phone number on my lock screen. Either get another rezy and wait for next nexus or get gs111?
I just had this happen to me a couple of weeks ago. Went out bar hopping and must have left it on the bar and somebody swiped it. Not only did they go to my facebook and post all kinds of gay **** they emailed all my work contacts with vulgar messages. I had Lookout Security on it so I could locate it, then i remote wiped it. I was going to go to the location of the phone myself but thought better of it, I would have killed that little punkass thief. So, I let the police go retrieve it for me. But, Lookout Security definitely worked great. It allowed me to track the phone in realtime from their website.
But in regards to what I would do if I was you, I'd go with a SGS3 or a GNexus on Verizon, if you're a person who likes to be a member of a forum that is actually alive. This forum is basically dead.
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yay, a fellow protect cell guy! they rock, don't they?? however, i think you're mistaken, bc i was led to believe they ARE in fact refurbished phones from HTC..that's what the training pretty much stated :\
sorry to hear about your phone, though
well, you can use your upgrade, but remember, you'll lose unlimited data. if you get a replacement from PC, you'll keep unlimited data. take that into consideration!
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Thanks for your response. To touch on the refurbished issue- I can assure you that the replacement I received was a BRAND new Rezound. The only thing is they don't send you an ext SD card with it. What you DO get is a new battery and phone and that's about it (my replacement was for a water-damaged phone). I wonder since the phone is stolen will they send me an SD card along with the phone this time.. that would make sense..? I was pretty bummed when my first replacement was missing the SD card!! I was like holy s*** an extra one! WOOT! but.. then no SD in the package :\ I had my original so I can't complain/be greedy
About unlimited- so that's how it is now??? Before when upgrading and not changing your account data/minute plans would result in keeping your original plan- even if it was now discontinued (grandfathering is what I've heard it called)... in my case it was the unlmtd 4g.
If I understand you correctly- you're telling me that ANY phone upgrade through verizon (with or without upgrade date discount/renewal of contract) it will in-fact change your data plan -- in other words- no matter what you can't avoid it??? Dude.. NOOO!!! that screws me in getting a brand new phone through an upgrade date... And obviously buying private or online etc. used, it will be more expensive versus upgrading at the verizon store and getting brand new I can't imagine using a phone with a limit on my data.. I use an OBSCENE amount of Data. I have never enabled Wi-fi on my phones.. ever. Ever!.. So now I have some thinking to do.. anything else i should know? is there anything I/we can do to keep unlimited besides buying outside of verizon
Let's just put it that way.
Thank you again for taking the time to respond and I appreciate you letting me know that important fact!
And yes, ProtectCell is one of the best decisions and purchases I've made. Overnight shipping, brand new phones, and secure shipping accompanied by great customer service. It's just easy and the smart thing to do. Wow I sound like a commercial! LOL
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Thanks for your response. To touch on the refurbished issue- I can assure you that the replacement I received was a BRAND new Rezound. The only thing is they don't send you an ext SD card with it. What you DO get is a new battery and phone and that's about it (my replacement was for a water-damaged phone). I wonder since the phone is stolen will they send me an SD card along with the phone this time.. that would make sense..? I was pretty bummed when my first replacement was missing the SD card!! I was like holy s*** an extra one! WOOT! but.. then no SD in the package :\ I had my original so I can't complain/be greedy
About unlimited- so that's how it is now??? Before when upgrading and not changing your account data/minute plans would result in keeping your original plan- even if it was now discontinued (grandfathering is what I've heard it called)... in my case it was the unlmtd 4g.
If I understand you correctly- you're telling me that ANY phone upgrade through verizon (with or without upgrade date discount/renewal of contract) it will in-fact change your data plan -- in other words- no matter what you can't avoid it??? Dude.. NOOO!!! that screws me in getting a brand new phone through an upgrade date... And obviously buying private or online etc. used, it will be more expensive versus upgrading at the verizon store and getting brand new I can't imagine using a phone with a limit on my data.. I use an OBSCENE amount of Data. I have never enabled Wi-fi on my phones.. ever. Ever!.. So now I have some thinking to do.. anything else i should know? is there anything I/we can do to keep unlimited besides buying outside of verizon
Let's just put it that way.
Thank you again for taking the time to respond and I appreciate you letting me know that important fact!
And yes, ProtectCell is one of the best decisions and purchases I've made. Overnight shipping, brand new phones, and secure shipping accompanied by great customer service. It's just easy and the smart thing to do. Wow I sound like a commercial! LOL
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hey man, i've been trying to get some members into PC when they get their new phones, so them seeing your awesome experience might help them decide to grab it through me!
and that's awesome you got a new phone! i honestly thought it was refurbs. that's great to know.
yep, using the upgrade drops your unlimited as of June 28th so yeah, you might wanna stick with it and buy phones off contract, or used etc.
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Thanks for your response. To touch on the refurbished issue- I can assure you that the replacement I received was a BRAND new Rezound. The only thing is they don't send you an ext SD card with it. What you DO get is a new battery and phone and that's about it (my replacement was for a water-damaged phone). I wonder since the phone is stolen will they send me an SD card along with the phone this time.. that would make sense..? I was pretty bummed when my first replacement was missing the SD card!! I was like holy s*** an extra one! WOOT! but.. then no SD in the package :\ I had my original so I can't complain/be greedy
About unlimited- so that's how it is now??? Before when upgrading and not changing your account data/minute plans would result in keeping your original plan- even if it was now discontinued (grandfathering is what I've heard it called)... in my case it was the unlmtd 4g.
If I understand you correctly- you're telling me that ANY phone upgrade through verizon (with or without upgrade date discount/renewal of contract) it will in-fact change your data plan -- in other words- no matter what you can't avoid it??? Dude.. NOOO!!! that screws me in getting a brand new phone through an upgrade date... And obviously buying private or online etc. used, it will be more expensive versus upgrading at the verizon store and getting brand new I can't imagine using a phone with a limit on my data.. I use an OBSCENE amount of Data. I have never enabled Wi-fi on my phones.. ever. Ever!.. So now I have some thinking to do.. anything else i should know? is there anything I/we can do to keep unlimited besides buying outside of verizon
Let's just put it that way.
Thank you again for taking the time to respond and I appreciate you letting me know that important fact!
And yes, ProtectCell is one of the best decisions and purchases I've made. Overnight shipping, brand new phones, and secure shipping accompanied by great customer service. It's just easy and the smart thing to do. Wow I sound like a commercial! LOL
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if you use an upgrade and get a discounted phone from verizon, you are forced off of unlimited. You can pay full retail at verizon without problems or get your phone from another source. Basically, if you renew your contract, unlimited is gone.
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if you use an upgrade and get a discounted phone from verizon, you are forced off of unlimited. You can pay full retail at verizon without problems or get your phone from another source. Basically, if you renew your contract, unlimited is gone.
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Which is complete bull****, but when people are using over a terabyte of data in a month (which is ****ing stupid) I begin to understand why they made this choice
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For those who've never had to deal with their phone being stolen.. it's kinda like this...for me anyways.
You soon realize that some random dude: did, can and could be - right now- looking through your private files, has access to phone numbers, pictures, videos, e-mails, and voice-mails. Oh, and did I mention all of your SD card contents? In my case my external sd =16gb of pure music.
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No pattern or password?
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No pattern or password?
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They are annoying as hell
Have you ever tried AndroidLost before? Awesome app..
Wheres my Droid is a good app also. The pro version has a remote wipe feature.
In hindsight, why didn't you pretend to be one of his friends when he answered the phone. Find out his name it where he even was. That sucks though. You gotta utilize opportunities man.
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Lookout has an app called Plan B. Wonder if that would help you find your phone.
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graymonkey44 said:
In hindsight, why didn't you pretend to be one of his friends when he answered the phone. Find out his name it where he even was. That sucks though. You gotta utilize opportunities man.
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lol one of HIS friends? how would they know his "new" phone number? lol
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Lookout has an app called Plan B. Wonder if that would help you find your phone.
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This has worked for me once but only when i lost it, not had my phone stolen.
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No pattern or password?
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I have to admit they are pretty annoying and I never liked them. When I got home I suspended my service without bill pay.. and that was all I could do so I really regret not downloading an app with features like remote wipe and gps tracking as has been mentioned.
So if I'm completely understanding this data conundrum.. you can't avoid it because you will have to renew your contract eventually at some point and then poof :/
I keep thinking about how it would suck to buy a phone that's been out for a bit to miss out on a newer one due to $. So, seeing as how it's only $120 for a new rezound, it could be the wiser option.
I don't know the prices of the phones you guys mentioned in used/like New/ and *New* (unopened box by private party) conditions are though so gotta do some research.
I like the rezound but to say I haven't wondered what a different phone would be like would be a lie.
I just hope this thread can serve as a reminder to someone out there who's delaying getting an app for situations like this. I didn't think this could or would happen to me.. my phone and I were inseparable. Don't learn the hard way when you can learn from my mistake
This community is awesome too. It's sad thinking about leaving :/ Supportive, friendly and close-knit.
Have you tried plan b? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb
Might give it a shot. If you want it back that is.
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Have you tried plan b? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb
Might give it a shot. If you want it back that is.
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I was going to say the remote install feature here could be a life saver. Unless you wait too long. Then they might have time to wipe it.
So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
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So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
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Be honest.
Erisnoob said:
Be honest.
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You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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Why not, that's exactly what you did after all...
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richii0207 said:
Why not, it's exactly what you did after all...
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True. . . but I'm not sure I want to pay the full price for the phone they sent me under warranty. I would rather send the replacement back and wait for the ME7 bootloader to be cracked.
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Be honest.
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Yup
Dolphlungegrin said:
You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
I would tell them that you just fixed it with Odin..
I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
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Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
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Why be underhanded about your character? Your title is how to trick Verizon? What this really is though is a hey look at me guys I commited fraud to replace a device that I knowingly and willingly violated my warranty with and had verizon send me a replacement device only to find out my original device wasnt broken after all. To add to the character comment even though you've fixed your device you're still contemplating continuing with the fraud by purposely bricking a device that you repaired...
I think this whole thread speaks volumes about your character or lack there of. You posted this on the internet. You screwed up the device. You fixed it. Own it.
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I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
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The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
Edit: The title of your thread didn't help matters either
cbmggm said:
The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
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I agree with you completely, it's on the person. The question was how do I trick verizon....so my answer was don't. If you don't want the feedback, don't ask. No rudeness was intended. I am fairly sure the lack of ownership on mistakes is frowned upon in the XDA community. Oh well, my opinion was to be honest. Enjoy your decision
Nothing rude was said to the op. The fact of the matter is that the very premise of this thread was to seek advice on warranty fraud, which is illegal.
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It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
TNS201 said:
It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
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The Verizon rep said something similar. He said they check for water damage, broken screen, etc.
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Here's the deal, no one thinks you are a bad person. Strike me down, but verizon is not lacking integrity here. Never once was this device advertised as being unlocked or unlockable and they have never said they support modding. If this was a nexus that they locked the bootloader on then yes, problem. I said be honest, my point was this decison is an integrity one, not you lack integrity. If you wanted to know if will VZW charge you for returning a rooted phone, that would have been a more appropriate question and thread, not how do I trick Verizon. Lesson learned, not beating up on you.
The OP owned it, he said he was sending the replacement device back. Good for him. Like others I wasnt trying to come across as being rude as much as appalled at the blatant disregard of personal responsibility. At the same time posting this type of title and thread up on XDA is kinda asking for it, which again, the OP has acknowledged.
We know we hate the carriers locking devices down. Locking them actually presents more of a risk of bricking than unlocked devices that you can always flash back to stock. Almost every thread here has something to the effect of "by following such and such your warranty is now void and we are not responsible", come on, we're registered here at XDA, we all know this. If we want an open device get a dev or nexus device and get an extended warranty or insurance option, they're out there.
Congrats to the op for staying classy, your choices are your choices and you'll live with whatever choices you decide to make.
And as we all should know by now, dont post on the interwebz if you dont want to hear what people, trolls and non-trolls alike have to say...
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Think of it like this. What do you use your phone for? To talk on the phone. Send messages. Email. Take pictures. Surf the web. Play games. Watch videos. Video chat. The other 20% is customization. If this was the year 1999 you would only be able to use your phone to make calls send messages and half-assed surf the web. Your phone is used for those types of things. Just because an update happened to a phone doesn't mean that you cannot use your phone to do those things it only limits you from updating to a different ROMS. ATT Verizon and them paid the money so they could have the locked boot loaders for the phones. If you didn't want restrictions then you wouldn't have used the upgrade you had and went and paid full price for the GPE s4 or other phone. Not saying that I like having a locked boot loader but since Obama came into office this is how its going to be because he's UN Americanized. But there are people working hard to get the boot loader unlocked it just takes time. You can still root it. Just my 2 cents
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