[Q] Female Developers - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Are there any??? If so, what's the ratio you think? Also, I see guys rooting their girls/wives phones, but I've only seen about two females that actually do it themselves. I don't know, just something random that popped up in my head. Lol
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That's a very good question. I think/hope there are a good number of female developers in XDA and other sites. My guess is that they might use more gender neutral names, which would make it harder for us to notice (a lot like how female authors used to use male pseudonyms in order to make their novels more noticeable). Either way, I for one am certainly interested in finding them.

Me as well. I think it would be pretty awesome to find out any that are. Also, of the work that they do. Females are known for finesse and precision, so I'm pretty sure it would be pretty good...and just for security measures, I'm not in any way, shape or form, trying to be sexist. Lol "D
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Person of the female persuasion here.
...though your initial question asked about female devs, of which I certainly am not. This phone was my first smartphone. To answer one of the OP's questions: I do believe in having full rights to the stuff I buy, so rooting was the first thing I did after getting the phone in May. Just took the bootloader + custom rom plunge this month after first reading the hell out of these message boards.

I'm glad to hear that. I wish more females were into rooting. Most of the times, you tell them how cool it is and all the things that you can do and they seem interested (at least in my case) only in being able to change the theme colors and nothing else. Lol
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Kinda surprised at the tumbleweed. I'm a developer and a female (simultaneously!).
Is it okay to say that? Now I'm paranoid. Maybe there's something in the Official Women Rulebook of Life that disallows voluntarily revealing our gender. (That thing is way too long and boring and full of emotions, I didn't read all of it.) Policy enforcement agents are probably going to crash through my windows any second now. One of you had better bail me out.

cowsaregreat said:
Person of the female persuasion here.
...though your initial question asked about female devs, of which I certainly am not. This phone was my first smartphone. To answer one of the OP's questions: I do believe in having full rights to the stuff I buy, so rooting was the first thing I did after getting the phone in May. Just took the bootloader + custom rom plunge this month after first reading the hell out of these message boards.
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How do you post as a guest?

This could be the start of a new subforum: XDAting service

troycarpenter said:
This could be the start of a new subforum: XDAting service
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bought several smartphones for my wife because she gets bored with them easily. She loves the stuff I do to my phones, but tbh, she couldn't be bothered to try any herself. I guess she likes the idea more than the application.

Blueangel180 said:
How do you post as a guest?
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Short answer: I wasn't a guest.
Longer answer: I had a new-ish but valid account, with a couple of thanks on the meter. Until one day it wasn't there. I couldn't log in, my email address wasn't found in the system when I tried resetting my password. So I sent two emails (waiting a couple of days in between) to the forum gods asking about the state of my account, and I didn't hear back. So I just gave up and made a new account, no harm, no foul.

I too am female but no way a developer. That being said, the first thing I ever do to any new phone I get (all moto at this point, first was backflip, then flipside now atrix) is root it. Not to be able to change themes but so its MINE. I bought it, why should I be limited in what I can do with it. I just last month finally got the balls (Haha, ok, the guts) to unlock bootloader and flash. Im no n00b by any means to technology. I started going to college to get my AS in computer science, but life and children stopped me. Im still all into playing with things. Replaced my screen on my atrix already, trying to get the flipside a custom recovery so custom roms can be flashed (which if anyone wants to help, id be grateful! ;-)). Love android, hate icrap.

I am a female, not a developer but an Electrical Engineer by profession, and do all the rooting and modding for myself and hubby.
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I remember you. At one time you graciously corrected me on a mistake I made about inverted settings I believe.
Weird that your account just folded on you like that. But I threw you a "Thanks" to get the ball rolling again since you did help me before.
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Short answer: I wasn't a guest.
Longer answer: I had a new-ish but valid account, with a couple of thanks on the meter. Until one day it wasn't there. I couldn't log in, my email address wasn't found in the system when I tried resetting my password. So I sent two emails (waiting a couple of days in between) to the forum gods asking about the state of my account, and I didn't hear back. So I just gave up and made a new account, no harm, no foul.
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Hey, thanks for that! (And you were quite helpful with my noob flashing questions.)
At any rate, the "forum gods that be" said my account was apparently deleted, but were nice enough to look into it for me. This will do for a replacement.

Love the avatar by the way, I've read every Calvin N Hobbes comic.
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Hey, thanks for that! (And you were quite helpful with my noob flashing questions.)
At any rate, the "forum gods that be" said my account was apparently deleted, but were nice enough to look into it for me. This will do for a replacement.
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live4nyy said:
Love the avatar by the way, I've read every Calvin N Hobbes comic.
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I used to be able to quote entire strips from memory. "Scientific progress goes 'boink' " is practically a life philosophy at this point.

troycarpenter said:
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Ok I LOL'd. Not sure if this would really take off; I've notice most male devs are either 17 years old, married, or with some chick who knows absolutely nothing about what he does. It's hard enough to find a guy who isn't scared to root his device.

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New email replies from HTC on the bootloader situation.

Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
BlueGoldAce said:
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
BlueGoldAce said:
I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
omgtheybetterfixitinthenexttwelvesecondsorimsogoingtoreturnthisphonegoddamn
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
Irishman42 said:
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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danaff37 said:
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
I certainly understand that you're looking for the bootloader of the EVO 3D to be unlocked. This is indeed something that we're working on, true to our word. We don't have a date set yet for when the update to do so will be available, but as this is a high priority situation when there is news on the subject it will be posted to our social media outlets, like our Facebook and our Twitter just as the previous announcement was. I hope that it is soon.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number
Sincerely,
Philip

[Q] Why I need 10 posts to reply, but many posts there from peoples with just 1 or 2?

This is very strange. I tried to post reply on the ICS Passion ROM thread, but then I been redirected to a page saying I need more than 10 posts before I can post there. However, there are many replies on that same thread, by peoples with just 1 or 2 post count.
Is there something I did wrong?
stupidpig07 said:
This is very strange. I tried to post reply on the ICS Passion ROM thread, but then I been redirected to a page saying I need more than 10 posts before I can post there. However, there are many replies on that same thread, by peoples with just 1 or 2 post count.
Is there something I did wrong?
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You need 10 posts to do it in the dev section. You should be able to reply in the general or other sections. Why they can I am not sure. Are they doing it with a computer or by phone maybe?
Thanks. I don't mind I need 10 to post if that's the rule. I just wondering why some peoples, like me, has to follow that rule, but some don't required.
It could be the date they join. Some have been here forever with little to no posts.
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I believe that the cutoff is around 2009 or older. Grandfather clause. Remember when there wasn't a "thanks" button?
Oh I see..... so this 10 post rule is something new (relatively). Thanks for the explanation.
Now I just have to work hard for my 10 posts.
I always wondered the same exact thing... I noticed some dude two days ago posting in the development and had 3 posts... I think under our profile there's a referral option so maybe they got referred my an existing member. That's my guess
Took me a year to get 10 post!
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10 posts is a pain, but I understand they don't want everyone mucking up the Dev threads. Sometimes they are hard enough to keep up with what is going on in them.
Still trying to come up with 10 myself
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Still trying to come up with 10 myself
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well...let's have an irrelevant conversation, and get you guys up to par!!
i had an omlette for breakfast...you guys omlette fans?? i suck at smalltalk
TopShelf10 said:
well...let's have an irrelevant conversation, and get you guys up to par!!
i had an omlette for breakfast...you guys omlette fans?? i suck at smalltalk
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I had a cigarette for Breakfast, I wish it was an omelet... Maybe this Reese's Cup will suffice.
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I had a cigarette for Breakfast, I wish it was an omelet... Maybe this Reese's Cup will suffice.
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sounds delicious....i actually quit recently, havnt had a butt since january 3rd!!! (10 year smoker)...ive moved onto vaping (ecigs) and havnt looked back, im a big advocate for it for people who want to quit...i never thought id be able to stop
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sounds delicious....i actually quit recently, havnt had a butt since january 3rd!!! (10 year smoker)...ive moved onto vaping (ecigs) and havnt looked back, im a big advocate for it for people who want to quit...i never thought id be able to stop
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I quit... For a Solid Month cold turkey... I picked it back up again. I bought a e-cig once. My kid picked it up and blew into it. and killed it. I didn't buy a new one. Maybe I should try again.
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I quit... For a Solid Month cold turkey... I picked it back up again. I bought a e-cig once. My kid picked it up and blew into it. and killed it. I didn't buy a new one. Maybe I should try again.
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if its something youre really going to consider, you have to invest in a good one. the initial investment in a starterkit will run you between $60-$90, but you ultimately save a ****ton of money AND health from there on out.
those crap ecigs from the convience store/mall kiosk are a horrible misrepresentation of the vaping world, dont buy those.
i can give you good recommendations if youre interested.
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if its something youre really going to consider, you have to invest in a good one. the initial investment in a starterkit will run you between $60-$90, but you ultimately save a ****ton of money AND health from there on out.
those crap ecigs from the convience store/mall kiosk are a horrible misrepresentation of the vaping world, dont buy those.
i can give you good recommendations if youre interested.
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I will definitely take suggestions. I have researched and researched and had a hard time making decisions on one product
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I will definitely take suggestions. I have researched and researched and had a hard time making decisions on one product
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it is a huge online industry, with a alot of great products >> but unfortunately those great products are buried under a tone of inferior products...it can be like finding a needle in a haystack.
a lot of people start researching, and just get so overwhelmed that they just say "fck it, ill just go buy a pack of smokes."
ill PM you the site where i started.
I suppose my problem is never shutting up.
I'm a lurker and have been for over a year. I understand the need to have people make productive posts, but I don't want to. BLAH POOP!
Sounds good to me. I've been a lurker for a long time, but work schedule has finally slowed down to less than 50-60 hrs/wk so I might actually be able to contribute some good thoughts.

BOX giving free lifetime upgrade to 50GB for Android users

Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23.
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Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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Good call. Just tried uploading nrg rom and exceeded... Fml
I guess dropbox keeps me for now
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
Binary100100 said:
That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
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^ what a boss.
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^ what a boss.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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haha you'd think he would be a little more smart about doing it at least.. if i was a troll id go to starbucks and use their wifi or something lmao, good thing im not though.
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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glacierguy said:
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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I feel powerful... What shall I do with the newly found power I have as op... Muahahah... Ok close it down
Thanks
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Me too
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Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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JesseMT4G said:
Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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Trust me, it was my pleasure!
Closing the tread now per OP request.

A New Melvin?

To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Yeah, it is definitely a possibility that that is the case. The whole reason I posted this is because it has been so long since we heard anything from either of them.
Perhaps they have been PMing instead of going at it in a thread since it was such a heated discussion before.
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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true, but I'm also thinking that this may be possible, that this could be the way to unlock the bootloader without having to buy another phone. Maybe i'm being too optimistic about this, but that's just how I feel, and how I was raised. Maybe this has to do with me being screwed over by a girl I was in love with because she moved onto her "high school sweetheart," and me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but that's just life. I'm trying to get the best out of my phone until I can upgrade to the GNex or the next best thing, but as of right now, I'm going to see this to the end and if that means I'm going to get hurt again "over a phone" then so be it. I'm going into this to optimistic, too involved, but oh well, that's me not you.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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It was in the BBB Complaint thread by Litetaker on page 11, it goes off for about 9 pages and then gets back on topic.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Because of that 1% nobody knows if she is right or wrong. NOBODY. You cannot say she is wrong without knowing the facts yourself and why not hold onto that glimmer of hope, if you read the original post I did ask for opinions, but I did not ask for your opinion on the validity of threads.
I see that you agree that this is most likely false, but it was taking up a lot of space in a different thread and I for one am interested enough to try to find out more.
I told everyone I am willing to attempt all of the tests once the soak/actuall update come out so if we can unlock the bootloader before that even happens I would be in heaven, I hate Moto Blur....
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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You are correct, I am hoping she is right and that it is an exe and we can somehow apply it to the X2.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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Lol man I did ​not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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Lol man I did ​not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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I hear you, I am so tired of this things lag and other massive issues
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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I sent her a PM this morning, hopefully we get an answer sometime today.
"I'm getting too old for this ****".
Its been almost a year since release and they've been yanking us around. The only way I'll have an unlocked phone anytime soon is if I get a free one from my complaint to BBB.
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Dunno who that coulda been
I may have gone a little overboard with the flaming, but she hit a nerve. Not getting into it again, just wanted to apologize.
Nah, I'm kidding. Good riddance.
Even ignoring the insults between myself and her, I don't think it's debatable at this point whether or not she's a troll (or equally possible: horribly, horribly confused).
I think my summary from that thread summed it up pretty efficiently.
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So let me recap.
We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.
Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.
So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.
Alright, let's move on.
So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!
And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.
K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Are you serious you post a thread asking for peoples opinions on this and then you want me to not post because you don't like my opinion, or because it isn't what you intended for people to post? What you posted in your thread left this open for discussion. My opinion is its complete BS. Like someone said if we get an unlocked boot loader someone will have the tool or the means and post it. Not dance around answers and complain about migraines. Why even feed into it?
Also yes I do have a gnex but I still have my x2 and use it frequently at home. I too want an unlocked bootloader.
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[Q] HELP - child wiped out phone (brick?) and mom needs help...

hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
Bchgirl19 said:
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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I'm going to venture to guess that the process will be entirely too long and tedious for someone not well versed to follow and could potential end in disaster. The phone isn't bricked since the main recovery menu pops up. I'd suggest looking on craigslist for someone locally to help you guys out. Unless someone here can offer a quick fix, i'd much rather you find someone that has experience to fix this in person. Sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for but that would probably be your best bet
Bchgirl19 said:
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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Check your pm
UPDATE
Thank you for your responses! Much appreciated. Believe it or not - this kid fixed it all by himself. Basically (remember I am not technical) he unlocked the boot loader then flashed a ROM onto an SD card and was able to load. Don't think I worded correctly - but it's fixed and working fine. WHEW!!
I will certainly keep the info to this forum handy because something tells me that I will be visiting again with this child..................
Have a great evening!!
p.s. I typed the wrong key -- he's 12 not 11
Bchgirl19 said:
Thank you for your responses! Much appreciated. Believe it or not - this kid fixed it all by himself. Basically (remember I am not technical) he unlocked the boot loader then flashed a ROM onto an SD card and was able to load. Don't think I worded correctly - but it's fixed and working fine. WHEW!!
I will certainly keep the info to this forum handy because something tells me that I will be visiting again with this child..................
Have a great evening!!
p.s. I typed the wrong key -- he's 12 not 11
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I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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supitsronnie said:
I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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Me too! Im 14 now.
The M8 is my first android phone and custom roms seem to get better and better.
The phone was not "bricked", and you are using the term improperly. Your son simply did something to make the phone unable to boot into the Android operating system. This state is usually easy to recover from, as long as the proper steps are known. So that is not a brick.
Itis of course your choice whether to let your kid modify (mod) your phone in such ways. And part of the modding process is always going to involve some hiccups (for even the most experienced users) and figuring out how to fix them. So I'm glad your son figured it out.
On the other hand, both you and he should be fully aware (if not already) that modding the phone may void the warranty, and also permanent damage (a true "brick") is possible if he doesn't fully understand what he is doing. Such damage is not covered by warranty.
To the OP (original poster), please do not create multiple thread asking the same question.
Its against forum rules, and makes it super confusing for those trying to help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750602
Bchgirl19 said:
hi everyone! I am seeking your expertise as I came upon this forum trying to help my son fix his phone. He's only 11 years old- but as we call him at home our "tech guy". He got a brand new HTC One M8 yesterday and 3 hours later - the phone was "bricked" as I have been told. Apparently, (these are his words) he "unlocked the bootloader using HTCdev, then flashed twrp, then flashed supersu.zip.
I have no idea what any of that means but apparently he did something wrong because his phone is not working and we don't know how to fix it. If you have any compassion for a frustrated Mom who's trying not to be angry with her son -- I would appreciate any advice you can give on how to fix this.
I have attached a picture of what the phone looks like when we turn it on. Not sure how to get picture in post.
Thanks a bunch!!
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You got your 11-year-old a $700 smartphone. What did you think would happen? Why in the world does a kid that young even need a smartphone?
supitsronnie said:
I started getting into ROMs your sons age. I am 15 now. I have hard bricked a Motorola Atrix 2, meaning it won't turn on at all. That's cool your son is a tech wizard too, it will do him a lot of good and a lot of bad. You should educate him about Ubuntu and let him screw with that on a PC. Much safer messing with a computer than a phone. Anyways, glad he got it working. ?
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I agree about his technical skills being alot of good and bad! We've had our share with him-- I won't bore you with the lists. My husband is the tech guy (of course he was away on business when this happened) and he understands his quest for knowledge and how much he loves this stuff - -says it's how he learns. Hubby has given him some old laptops and ipods and he sure has fun with those!
greyhulk said:
You got your 11-year-old a $700 smartphone. What did you think would happen? Why in the world does a kid that young even need a smartphone?
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I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
Bchgirl19 said:
I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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Oh, I'm sorry. Are you counting the on contract price? Okay. Well, throw it on the ground or drop it in a pool or give it to a child to ruin. Now go back to the store to get a replacement and see how much it costs. You also signed a contract and took on an extra monthly data plan... For a child. The fact that you have no clue how much the phone actually costs explains a lot, actually.
I'm not concerned about your wallet. You clearly have more money than sense, so rather than crying here, just go buy a replacement phone for him to ruin. While you're at it, go ahead and get him an espresso machine.
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greyhulk said:
Oh, I'm sorry. Are you counting the on contract price? Okay. Well, throw it on the ground or drop it in a pool or give it to a child to ruin. Now go back to the store to get a replacement and see how much it costs. You also signed a contract and took on an extra monthly data plan... For a child. The fact that you have no clue how much the phone actually costs explains a lot, actually.
I'm not concerned about your wallet. You clearly have more money than sense, so rather than crying here, just go buy a replacement phone for him to ruin. While you're at it, go ahead and get him an espresso machine.
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Seems like she asked a question to a problem and it was answered. I'm not sure how taking a personal shot at a newcomer to the forum accomplishes anything. Her decision to buy her son anything is hers and hers alone, why inject your opinion into it, much less insinuate that she has no sense. It comes off as aloof and petty. This doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. Flame away.
johnnyutah22 said:
Seems like she asked a question to a problem and it was answered. I'm not sure how taking a personal shot at a newcomer to the forum accomplishes anything. Her decision to buy her son anything is hers and hers alone, why inject your opinion into it, much less insinuate that she has no sense. It comes off as aloof and petty. This doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. Flame away.
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Thanks a bunch for your support and from all of those who responded. I've visited various forums in my life and am well aware that there are always those few who just like to be mean and find power on these boards. I didn't come here asking for anyone's opinion on what I allow my children to do or how they spend their allowance - just needed some advice. Sincerely appreciate the great input that I have received.
Bchgirl19 said:
I'm glad you are so concerned with my wallet! Where did you even come up with that figure of $700!? Try again!!
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The actual retail cost of the device is $639; which would also be the replacement cost of this device. The on-contract price of $199 is just a subsidized cost, which the carrier basically spreads over the length of your 2-year contract.

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